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astroismypassion · 11 months
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Astrology observations 🔭🔭🔭
Credit goes to @astroismypassion
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🔭 Scorpio Risings are so underated for their fashion. They really express creatively through their clothing choice. All of them need to be the flyest looking person in the room. They have really person, unique, daring and bold fashion sense, very personal much like Aries Moons.
🔭 But with that being said, they also either look like they haven’t showered for two days or really put together. They are constantly somewhere in the middle of being very comfortably dressed and really looking sharp. One day they can look homeless, but the next day like they are going to a fashion show. Again, they taking way of clothing in extreme.
🔭 The thing with Leo over the 8th house people I noticed is that they become much more carefree, spontaneous, worry less and less strict with time. When younger they put so much pressure of themselves, which could even make them a mood killer, because of how serious and strict they appear. But when older, they become much more easy-going and more flexible and not so strict with being punctual.
🔭 Composite Pisces Mars (even sometimes also Mars in the 12th house and Mars Neptune aspect) is often found where people have very different habits and lifestyle. One is a couch potato and the other is really active. One is really social and the other is introverted. Usually these two don't have compatible Mars signs in their own natal charts.
🔭 Composite Aries Moon is often found in the Composite chart where there is "a first". Maybe your first real partnership, the first person you have sex with, your first person you move in with, first crush, first love.
🔭 Couples who have Uranus in the 1st house in the Composite chart often don’t believe in traditional, stereotypical gender roles. They might both be the little spoon, they can both gift each other flowers and they might split the bill or each pay half of the joint bill.
🔭 Mars in Scorpio and Mars in Aries might have a partner that doesn’t that physical hygiene really seriously. They might often forget to brush teeth etc.
🔭 The sign that falls over the 11th house, you will feel they are very different from you. For example: if you have Libra over the 11th house, you could feel like you don’t resonate with Libra Sun when it comes to the traits of the sign. You might WISH, DREAM to have some of these traits one day in the future, but it is far from who you already are.
🔭 Virgo Moons can get quite paranoid if they don’t know the next step that they will take. At every step of the way they need to be sure to make a plan for the future, otherwise they spiral or panic.
🔭 I found people who have Capricorn over the 11th house might enter serious commitment later in life, well after the age of 30. They could start family, a job or a marriage later than average. But mostly, because they don’t want to rush these important parts of their life.
🔭 Composite Pisces Mars: you might quickly steal sneaky pictures of each other at random moments, like when the other is eating etc.
🔭 Whenever a Scorpio or a Aries Sun enters your life, you will just want to move and change along with them, because of how much action they bring in your life. With Cancer Sun entering your life, you might just see yourself spending more time with your family members, start cooking, decorating your home more, spending more time at home. When Taurus Sun enters your life, you might start valuing yourself more highly, you could start wearing better clothes and look more presentable. You might find yourself spending more time in nature.
🔭 Aries over the 4th house gets attached very fast in love when younger, but with time and age, they grow more comfortable with just being by themselves and don’t seek partnerships as much.
🔭 The first romantic partner that you will be the longest with (like your first really long relationship in comparison with previous ones), you might have Aquarius or Capricorn Ascendant in the Composite chart. Or Uranus or Saturn in the 1st house.
🔭 Leo Mars: best way towards more confidence, it’s just starting to work out more. They instantly get more confident. Because it’s Mars combined with Leo energy.
🔭 I noticed the best time to get a haircut is when Moon is transiting your 1st house. Because it’s a transit of naturally being comfortable with whatever new change it brings. You will still feel secure within yourself.
🔭 Virgo MC supposedly is one of the most “workaholic” placements, but can we talk about Gemini over the 4th house or Gemini ICs? They literally need work to feel secure and comfortable in themselves.
Credit goes to @astroismypassion
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soloorganaas · 1 year
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I know you are anti Remadora so ignore this question if you don't feel like addressing this topic but I saw you talking about them before so I figured it might be OK to ask. How would you feel about an AU version where they get together under very different circumstances, when they are both ready, and there is no pressure, no emotional manipulation, no rushing into things, etc.? So I guess my question is: do you hate Remadora period or do you hate the way their relationship was written in canon? Because for me it's the latter, and I can't ship it if it's canon compliant but I love Remus and Tonks as individuals, and although I ship Wolfstar too, I think there is great potential in their dynamic. It's a straight presenting relationship but in my head they're both queer and I think that's important to note, too.
this is a great question i got back in december, wrote half an essay for, then left in my drafts. i was reminded by the chaos discord of it so dug it out, finished the essay and voila. so i hope you follow me anon and get to enjoy my response to your question
tl;dr - i would never want to read remus and tonks together because remus is gay. gay identity and history is central to his characterisation, as is his relationship with sirius. remus's meaning and impact comes from that, and it's both a beautiful and sad story that resonates with so many gay people
jkr forced his relationship with tonks into being deliberately to try and erase remus's gay identity. she didn't write a meaningful loving relationship with a woman that would have characterised him as bisexual. if she had, then that relationship wouldn't have made remus 'less gay'. it would have been another facet woven in with a broader queer identity. but she didn't. remus did not want to be with tonks, and he was miserable the entire time. he was manipulated into being with her by the bastion of the cishet nuclear family molly weasley, and was only finally happy when he had a son and finally fitted the traditional family friendly cishet mold and said goodbye to his gayness forever
so a story with remus and tonks erases remus's gay identity because it's portraying him as something that he isn't and it plays into the homophobia of jkr in writing it to start with
i have ✨ expanded ✨ on this below with three main points:
1. remus is gay
2. gay history and identity is central to remus's characterisation
3. remus’s story is defined by his relationship with sirius
remus’s sexuality
the biggest question of all is whether remus is into women or not. I don’t think there’s an argument that he is based on his relationship with tonks. this is obviously a subject that can be talked about in great depth, but the key point is that he doesn’t show any interest in her, rejects her again and again, and is miserable when they're married. there’s nothing to indicate any romantic feelings or sexual attraction on his part, any desire to be emotionally or physically intimate, any sense that she understands him in a deep and unique way, or really that she brings him any joy
beyond tonks, I think he’s characterised as not into women generally. he never performs/acts/presents himself in any way for the female gaze - it’s not just about not actively trying to attract women, there is literally no way in which he ever acts like he seems concerned with what women think or passively adopts traits to please them. he also doesn’t have any intense relationships with women that we know of, or any moments of chemistry or tension with women. all of his intense feelings and interactions are with men. all of this is characteristic of the experience of being a gay person
the centrality of gay identity and history to remus's story
remus’s life encapsulates the loneliness and hardship of being gay in the 70s/80s/90s. the marginalisation, the secrecy, the danger of being found out, the suspicion. he is a character constantly carrying a Big Secret, and he’s shaped himself to develop layers of self-control, discretion and manipulation that keep any potentially revealing emotions or personal details safely hidden. he goes out of his way to avoid visibly making trouble or raising his head above the parapet, to present himself as perfectly respectable, which was (and often still is) a fundamental part of existing as gay in a homophobic society, to counter any perceptions of being a predator or untrustworthy or abnormal
and it is a deliberate performance, bc we know quite clearly how much trouble he’s making under the surface - he hides the knowledge of padfoot and the map from dumbledore, he revels in gaslighting snape when he finds the map on harry, his first action when he sees peter and sirius on the map is not to inform the authorities, but to run to them himself and keep it a secret. he’s a mischievous, deviant, sarcastic, often morally grey troublemaker, but no one for a second (except sirius) would ever see that in him
but despite all remus's attempts at respectability, he still is marginalised. he’s fundamentally seen as a dangerous freak, someone who shouldn’t be allowed near children or polite society lest he corrupt them, which is such a metaphor for homophobia (and esp against gay men) it punches you in the face. he’s trapped in poverty despite his education and assumed family wealth and is forced to rely on others for financial security. like so many other gay people throughout history his safety entirely comes from his community, bc he can’t rely on any institutional support - and when it disappears, as it does in 1981, he’s left poor, unsafe and adrift
and then there’s sirius
sirius and remus
remus's entire life from when he joins hogwarts to when he dies is shaped by sirius
he goes from a lonely, marginalised boy to someone loved and valued by his friends, to the point they perform incredibly dangerous and illegal magic just to try and reach him in the aspect of his life that's most painful and isolating. this is largely due to sirius and james. there's not much we know about remus's relationship then with sirius specifically, other than that sirius was both affectionately teasing and affectionately rude towards him (from swm). the rest is extrapolation from how close they are as adults. but the story that we do get is one that wouldn’t exist without sirius
remus then spends thirteen years tortured by the knowledge of what sirius has done that he still can't quite accept, as well as the knowledge of what sirius is going through as the a prisoner in azkaban. he doesn't ever come close to moving on - he loses his shit every time harry brings up sirius; he questions whether sirius, despite being an alleged mass murderer, really deserves azkaban; he is incredibly stressed and anxious to the point of noticeably losing weight the entirety of PoA, which is not just down to lycanthrophy. his entire mental state (and to an extent his physical one) is dictated by sirius
then the moment there's even a hint that sirius might not have committed the crimes alleged remus drops everything and runs. he faces sirius for the first time in thirteen years and believes him instantly. he's at sirius's side defending him and working with him with an astonishing amount of trust for someone he thought (at least partially) was guilty not an hour before. that's a mark of how deep his love and devotion goes, and how much he was simply waiting around for sirius all those years
we have no idea what remus does in GoF, but we do know by OotP he once again drops everything for sirius and moves into an absolutely miserable house to live alongside him. there's no reason for him to be there other than sirius (no one else in the order needs to live there, after all). every scene he's in, every bit of dialogue in that book is related to sirius. when he's saying goodbye to harry after christmas his advice is a subtle reference to sirius. they give harry a joint christmas present, they take care of him together. they exist entirely as partners
after sirius dies, remus completely falls apart. every time we see him through harry's eyes he's worse and worse. by the christmas of harry's sixth year remus is referring to werewolf tribes murdering humans for fun as his 'equals' and has clearly lost all sense of self-worth or reason for being. he's such a wreck he's emotionally manipulated into marrying a woman he doesn't want to and then is an absolutely terrible husband the entire time. even when his son is born, he's still acting thinking of sirius - he asks harry to be teddy's godfather, emulating the example sirius set
remus is who he is because of his relationship with sirius, one that is far, far too intense to be just platonic
conclusion
there is no way i, personally, would ever be comfortable with a remadora relationship. even if they were similar ages or got to know each other in a different context, it still wouldn't be realistic. remus is gay, that entire relationship came about with the intention to straight wash him. putting him together with any woman bothers me, but putting him together with tonks specifically upsets me because of the homophobic background for why that relationship even exists in canon
there are a lot of relationships we can quibble about as to whether they work or not, and that's fair. remadora is one of them. but the extra layer of jkr's homophobia in forcing them together can't be separated from that discussion. some people may view their relationship as meaningful in spite of that. that's fine, we're all entitled to our own headcanons. it's not mine, and there is no story i want to read where remus is with tonks. there's no story i want to read where he isn't gay, full stop
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deepmochi · 2 years
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SYNASTRY: VENUS IN THE HOUSES (1st-6th house)
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♡ Venus in the 1st house ♡
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The Venusian likes the fashion and appearance of the house person. The 1st house native feels a connection from the moment they met. It's a love at first sight type of story. The house person prefers the Venusian mannerisms and presence. This pair looks like a couple, though. Also, the planet person fears that the house person only likes their appearance. They will like each other, but the house person may remark the physical beauty of the Venus person a lot. Their connection relies on looks, especially for the Venusian. However, this is not pleasurable for the house native; they could view this union as empty and superficial. They like to spend time together and physical touch is a thing. The Venusian is infuriated by the house looks, so the house person feels happy but not completely happy. They allow to do activities together. If the Venusian is a man, it is difficult to erase the perfect image in his head about the first person. They will give each other many compliments. Always emphasizing how they look or act. They may use their body to express their love: sex or body language is on point. In a serious connection, the Venusian accepts the house person as a person with defects too. Physical touch is essential but also quality time is common. Sexual tension is very high during the first meeting, but it can be awkward too. The Venusian gets nervous around the house person;it's really obvious. Thus, It feels shallow at first, so for a better and long lasting relationship they need more than physical attraction. "Why are staring at me?"/ "me?", "did you know that your eyes are [color]"?, touchy hands, doing sports together, working out, intense stares, high sexual tension, "let's go out", strong first meeting, car rides?, nervous and awkward silents".
♡ Venus in the 2nd house ♡
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These two are like business partners, commitment means a lot to them. Breaking their love is a loss because they care for each other so seriously. They like to buy things to each other: sharing is caring. Materials are not an issue. The Venus person wants to invest in the 2nd house person dreams, desires, or lacks. The 2nd house person wants to make the Venusian happy with tangible actions, especially if the 2and house had a financial situation. These two are very mature and prefer a peaceful environment. They are patient with their love and relationship. The house person would teach the Venusian about waiting the right timing. They prefer to buy each other gifts than saying romantic things often. They are romantic in a earthy way. Actions talk louder than words, but they do say "I care for you or I love you" Therefore, they maybe not romantic as other houses, but they will give stability in the relationship. If they start as business partners, they will stay in that lane for a long time. Straightforward convos are part on the relationship. Money is not a deal. They can share a lot too. However, possessive behaviours are a thing. 2nd house is ruled by Taurus so they can enjoy the earth sign influence. Luxury is an element present in the connection. A very sensual and traditional pair. The house person may like to wear clothes that represent balance elegance for them, while the Venusian is more elegant naturally or trendy. They enjoy physical touch and gif giving. Furthermore, if they don't have money, they will work hard for a stable future. They will take their all for stability as a duo. Long kisses in a private place, holding hands under the table, "I buy this, did you like it?", sex is slow and rough, "I trust you, babe", champagne in a room, biting necks, necks kisses, food and jewelry.
♡ Venus in the 3rd house ♡
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This pair love to change and adapt at many different things. They could have started as friends or a friend present them. They love to learn together, start new things or just explore things together. Polygamy relations can be a thing or open relationships. The Venusian likes to hear what the 3rd house says about different things. Giggles and fun times. Pranks and nicknames. Communication can be good for these two because they can engage in different topics. The house person likes how the planet person express their ideas and intelligence. The house person also learn form the Venusian. There is a possibility that a sibling or neirghbour introduce them. They have nicknames or codes when they talk. They give vibes of friends more than lovers in the beginning of the connection.It may not be long term if they keep being "just friends" due to the Gemini energy (3rd house) lack of commitment. They should adapt and change their mindset for long lasting results. Friends and lovers, not friends with benefits. They may look alike in some way with their physical appearance or style. So, people will say "are you related?". They house person likes the input of the Venusian. Gemin is the orginal ruler of the 3rd house represented by twins, so they share many things. However, the Venus person desires a serious input if not they will see the house person as a some. They may share books and podcasts. They prefer messages and videocalls; they don't care about the mean they just wanna to communicate. Phone sex (messages, calls) nudes, tik tok videos, long conversations, "why you always do that? / what?", knowing each other music taste, changing houses often, trying different sexual activities, being turn on by intelligence and humor, laughter and intimacy intimacy is constantly changing.
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♡ Venus in the 4th house ♡
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This union brings a healthy love, where they feel safe and at home. Others may not see how much this two love each other, but they do. It's really magnetic and instantly. These two have met before that's the only answer: that's how they feel. Moreover, the venusian sees the house person as relatable and their special place. The house person sees the planet like "the right fit" for them. They share a familirity with each other similiar to"I know you" type of feeling; they create a bond without actual actions. Let's say that they feel intimate even in the first meeting. Venus can lack perspective because they may idealize the 4th house person too much. It is more evident to the 4th house input. These pair see their famliy' issues in the relationship, and they try to chase or avoids those actions wtihout relaizing. Love is a sign of commiment for these two, especially for the Venusian. The 4th house person can understant this but they also love the venusian.Venus will try to impress the house native in every asepct; they can try to move slow but fast. For example, they are the couple that move together in a period of 3 months maximiun. That couple who acts like soulmates; this pair knows how to play house because they are spouses even in the dating stage.They can meet in a social setting or a familiy reunion/party. Also, they can meet at home or are a family member, especially their mother can present them. Literally, the you came to me; the definition of home will depend on the house, but the 4th house person recognizes the Venusian as a reliable place for them.
♡ Venus in the 5th house ♡
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This couple brings the confident and fun to their relationship. It's the forever young couple. They are so physical and dynamic. Furthermore, the house native loves to be around the venusian because they relate to how the planet express themselves. They tend to enjoy sexual activities the most. This could start as a innocent affair. People with this synastry placement can last long or not; It will depend on the signs compatibility. The reason is that the 5th house represents freedom and real idenity (true sefl). This synastry comes in to teach ous to be who we are, be proud of ourselves. Depending on the venusian sign, they can see the 5th house person as their only one. Etheir way, these relationships mark a start and an ending, yet it's less dramatic and scary than the 8th house synastry. Muse and artist kinds vibes. They love play with each other; laughs fill the air when they together like two children. They have this balance of knowing when to be childish, and respect serious times. The Venus person feels relieve when they are around the 5th house person. The house person loves the feeling of acceptation. They play like kids; the gif literary describes these two vibes: adorable. There are high possibilities for them to have children together. They are so fertile, so they need to be cautious. They may know each other seems childhood or they bring each other inner child out. They can be so childish together. This can trigger or heal childhood experiences. Usually, they bring inspiration to each other. Maybe, they are artists and do art together; random activities, "let's go, now", inside jokes, touchy hands, winks, making the other laugh, "I can't be mad at you", sex is therapy and heaven for them, "this is our song", They look like love birds.
♡Venus in the 6th house♡
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They are very chill and calm with each other. The 6th house rules Virgo, this represents how they work every day to be better. They care for their routines and lifestyles as a duo. They wan to be better; they care for their minds too. They love to talk with their partner to see if they fit together. Expect honesty and straightforward feedback or advices. The Venusian loves to help the Planet person; they share the responsibilities and duties. They tend to crtitic each other because they just want to improve. So, they don't feel hurt or ashamed. However, respect and boundaries are welcome too. They are the couple that workout, eat healthy and more together. Besides, they would find or have a spot for their love. They would save a special day for their dates or free time. Emotional repsonsability is a duty for them. For outsiders the planet person loves more the house person, but they don't know how the 6th house person shows their love in private. The 6th house person can be more sexual than the Venusian. People would say they are boring or old fashioned. Not into PDA, they prefer being comfy with each other. Ironically, they like quickies and every day action (wink wink). That's how they realise frustration or stress. Sexual intercourse is a normal thing for them. Showering together, s3x in the bathroom, planned dates, working out together, making coffee, "let's share chores", "I bought you these supplements /vitamins for the bones", "let's go to the hotel [name], it has good reviews".
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spicybylerpolls · 2 months
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I really can't unsee the sexual imagery now. This might have already been said (and if it has then I guess just ignore me? Lol) but - When Mike starts talking about the pen the unknown hero agent gave him. The pen that the unknown hero agent actually gave to Will, but whatever. And then he says "why would he give me a pen that didn't work?" He rushes over to Argyle, takes the pen and un-does it, revealing the number, and remarks. "It's the number. We've had it this whole time." Then, finally, when they go try and call the number they discover it wasn't a traditional landline, like they had expected, instead it was something newer, a modern idea, a computer they were calling.
Most interestingly, after Mike reveals the number from the pen, Argyle remarks "you got his digits man?" creating both a romantic and sexual undertone to the scene.
Aka - the pen is his dick, he doesn't know why it doesn't "work", when he finally comes to terms with his sexuality, he will realize it does work, "it's been here the whole time" and the reason it wasn't working was bc he wasn't attracted to what's traditional (girls) but instead whats new age (boys).
Unknown Hero Agent Man could even be seen as god in this symbolism, when Mike says "why would he give me a pen that doesn't work?" ((( This honestly makes me sad because it reveals a lot about Mike's character ☹️ and also would be proof that he's gay, not bisexual - sorry bi mike truthers )))
unknown, god is unknown
hero, god is idolized
agent = a person or thing that takes an active role, god is the creator
And lol, the unknown hero agent man (god) gives this pen to Will originally and then Mike takes ownership of it? Okay 😭
Also to be noted this happens right after Mike and Will's heart to heart where they talk about being afraid to reveal the truth. I was always so annoyed that Argyle cut him off. I wanted to hear what Mike was gonna say. Well, now I know, I guess. lol.
And see, I had already seen this symbolism through the lens of Mike's romantic feelings alone before, because it works there too. Never did I think about it in a sexual way until... I was introduced to this blog. And saw other posts about the sexual symbolism regarding Mike and Will's relationship, specifically in S4.
It's all just very interesting. How you can convey sexual themes without outright saying it. And honestly, I think that's nice. Because maybe we don't need these explicit scenes in every show, like Sex Education or something. Maybe we don't need it every season. But to remind people that yeah, this is a big part of their life, and specifically Mike and Will's struggle, through symbolism is great, honestly.
Also want to say that I hate that I feel I can't just post this on my own blog lol. I really hate that an open discussion about the literal themes in the show has to be censored. About something that is arguably the most natural thing in the world. Especially when this isn't even really referring to sex itself but rather Mike's struggle with it and would be such a big contribution to the byler fandom overall...
Anyway that was super long, sorry. Would love to hear thoughts about this?
Do you think Mike talking about the unknown hero agent man and the pen he gave to him is symbolism that Mike is frustrated about his sexual feelings for women (or lack thereof?)
1. Yes
2. No
3. Unsure
4. Possibly
Please note that the purpose of this blog is not to be creepy or to make anyone uncomfortable. That's why I created the #spicy byler tag (I will tag all polls with this). If you don't want to see this blog or anything related to it on your feed, please block that tag. Not everyone is comfortable with this sorta stuff, and that's okay.
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deityoftherain · 2 months
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Oceanfolk Tradition made for Empires SMP S1 Lore
Bestowal is something my friend (@welcome-back-to-hoimycraf) and I came up with together. We went crazy in DMs just building up a tradition that I wanted to include in this fic (more info about it on Tumblr) when we didn't need to but when have we ever been sane about our block people and worldbuilding?
Just because I don't think I will be able to use it to its full extent in this series (I might/will probably recycle it and use it in the future for other oceanfolk fics as needed but some of these I don't see myself ever using it BUT THEY EXIST SEE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT ALL), I will share my notes of it that are in my worldbuilding/planning document. Copy and paste, my beloved.
Bestowal: Oceanfolk give shells to those they care about and they wear them on their person as a display of their love. They start wearing them and giving them out when winter turns into spring. There are different shells to show different types of appreciation, care, and love. Oceanfolk tend to wear a lot of shells on their clothing. The shells given are worn as necklaces/bracelets/hairpieces/etc for the spring and they are later sewn into clothes. The shells are passed down and reused, meaning many oceanfolk wear shells their ancestors had worn before. When they don’t want them anymore, there are take-a-shell leave-a-shell spots. Oceanfolk can trade shells there, donate shells they don't want, or take shells to be able to use if they can’t go out to find their own for whatever reason or if they just want extra for xyz.
Shell Code for ^: https://naplesseashellcompany.com/shell-types.html cowries/olives - for those you would like to acknowledge but don’t know well such as coworkers and classmates! They are common and they are the kind of thing you have children gather for activities when teaching them about the tradition bonnets - to give to those you want to know better for xyz reason strombus - to give to those you look up to or respect in your community, showing appreciation as a fan of sorts, etc (those such as teachers, guards, healers, performers, etc) spindle/tibia - (look like sperm soooo) related to sex and fertility however they want to interpret that (your friend with benefits, pregnancy announcement, telling them you want to have sex, etc) tritons/frog - for friends and other platonic relationships turritellas - for familial relationships such as parents, siblings, children, cousins, etc miters/auger - for romantic relationships that you want to get into (if you’re really bold) or to acknowledge an existing one abalones - reserved for engagements and formally committed relationships (marriage basically)
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nihilnothings · 9 months
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I just recently noticed the similarities between Aqua and Akane's relationship to Hikaru and Ai
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This isn't really a new profound theory as I found it on some obscure part of the Internet but I'd like to share some light on it because I just noticed it all of a sudden.
Ruby is usually the go to when people describe someone similar as Ai, after all she is a spitting image of her but blonde, has that similar charisma that draws in people to her, and eventually in traditional Hoshino fashion uses lies as a means to an end.
However, Ruby isn't the only one with similarities to Ai, Aqua too is also similar to his mother, at least when it comes to some aspect of his love life lol but even if they aren't physically similar Aqua too has similarities with his mother, in which they use lies as an expression of their love (The difference being Ai yearns for love while Aqua feels like he doesn't deserved to be loved) wouldn't be her son at all if they don't share anything in common after all!
The parallels so far are mostly on how their love lives are similar:
Both are entertainers who got entangled with Lala Lai Theatre Troupe members for a specific goal in mind
Eventually they started to get romantically involved with one another
They both then experienced a fallout for different reasons (Aqua can't bring himself to have Akane be involved for her safety while Ai started falling out due to the pregnancy, though further details might reveal more on their fallout because ain't no way it's just because of that)
They then started to oppose each other (Akane is actively planning to stop Aqua from self-destructing while REDACTED for reasons unknown went back to murdering again and killed his lover)
That's where the similarities end and where the differences start within this parallel.
In the case of Ai she was the older one, while in the case of Aqua he was the younger one lol (if we don't include his past life that is)
REDACTED opposes Ai but his motives are out of malice (unless Ai did something so bad to him that warrants murder and more murders following that, he is an evil piece of crap for ruining the lives of his children and many others), Akane opposes Aqua but her motives are pure, which is to save him from self-destructing (I personally don't think Akane wants Aqua to not chase after REDACTED as someone as smart as she is knows how dangerous he is, she's probably trying to stop him from destroying himself and find a much "healthier" way to stop him.)
The romance between Ai and REDACTED ended in a very bitter note to the point of Ai getting murdered by him. The fate of Aqua and Akane is still uncertain.
Aqua who is compared to "Ai" is the "bad guy" while Akane who is REDACTED is the "good guy" opposite to how REDACTED and Ai was, though further details of their relationship might shed more light on how they are.
Now the question stand, do these parallels mean anything? Maybe or maybe not, I just found the observation to pique my interest and considering I can't predict the current journey of the story, I'll leave all of this as me speculating.
If it were true though, I suppose these parallels are a way for the author to allude the trajectory of how their relationship might go. A lot of dark things are currently happening within the OnK-verse but I don't see this series to have a downer end, it'll probably be a light after dark ending where after all the shit that the characters have been through, they all will live knowing that they've won against their struggles.
Using this Tokyo Blade panel as a complement to this observation, I suppose if Ai and REDACTED's relationship concluded in a horrible note (but at least Ai managed to die knowing she was capable of "real love) then Aqua and Akane might succeed where their predecessors failed, by making amends and loving for real.
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The ongoing rewatch got me thinking about Felegami and how to make Felix feel like less of a consolation prize/Adrien replacement, which reminded me of an idea that I am never going to write, but wanted to toss out there: Adrigami fake dating AU where it's legitimate fake dating with no romance involved.
We introduce the arranged marriage stuff as early as season two or three, but it's immediately clear to almost everyone that this relationship is dead in the water. Adrien's heart is already Ladylocked and Kagami thinks that Adrien is too soft, silly, indecisive, passive, etc. However, Kagami also wants to do normal teenage things without upsetting her mom, so she's like, "Adrien, we are going to enter a non-romantic dating relationship so that we can experience traditional non-romantic teenage milestones and activities without upsetting our parents. Do you have any issues with this arrangement?"
And Adrien is totally onboard because he also wants to do those things, especially once he learns that Kagami doesn't care if he invites his friends along. Friends are a standard part of being a teenager, so clearly they will only enhance the experience. (Up to you if Marinette knows all of this from the start or if you want to have some drama in this part of the story as she tries to do a Frozer and support Adrien's new "romance" which mostly consists of Kagami wanting to do things like try every flavor of ice cream at Andre's while Adrien sighs longingly over his Ladybug ice cream, firmly cementing Kagami's initial reaction of "hard pass").
So we stick to canon for the most part, there's just no angst for Kagami and Adrigami never has a breakup arc in season 4. Kagami keeps "dating" Adrien until mid season 5 when Felix shows up. That's when Adrigami publicly breaks up because Kagami is like, "Sorry mom, there's a overly-dramatic dark broody version and that is everything that I've ever wanted, why am I only learning about him now? You have all failed me! I must go to him. Besides, Adrien's in love with Marinette and I don't want people to think that he's cheating on me. She can have the pretty-boy pushover. I'm gonna go make out and do crime!"
Meanwhile Felix is just like "No! I thought Adrien got all of the simp-for-powerful-woman-in-red genes! What's happening to me?"
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thought experiment time.
let's suppose for a second that the manosphere arguments on the loneliness epidemic among men and the "crisis of masculinity" are both empirically true and genuine cause for concern (I don't think that any of these issues apply only to men, but we're playing along).
the first obvious question is, "what do you expect for women to do about this?" but this is an issue that constantly gets brought up without any kind of proposal for a solution other then I think to eat more protein and perpetuate more body dysmorphia among men but I digress. I want to go a bit deeper rather then stopping at this point.
so often it's now getting cited that women are consistently outperforming men academically and have begun to outcompete men for college-level education completion and are beginning to tip the scales now in income earned on average and that this is leaving men in a void of not having access to women who have higher education then them.
but here's what I want to talk about. the narrative here is something akin to, feminists show up from out of no where and for no reason start pushing women to adapt what were once traditionally masculine traits of things like investing in yourself in your early life, being ambitious, setting personal goals etc. and for some reason it seems like all the manosphere dudes take this as affront to masculinity because they have artificially constructed a world where women's success and men's success are a zero sum game, but again I'm digressing.
I think what absolutely none of these manosphere dudes realize is that the messaging on traditional femininity never stopped. we all have continued to be conditioned to serve the well-being of others, to organize our relationships around empathy and compassion, to see everything from everyone else's perspective before our own, etc. the ambition was piled on top of that. and we have kicked ass at achieving it, apparently, at least from the manosphere's perspective.
so here's my point.
what the manosphere has proposed as a solution to this supposed crisis of masculinity and loneliness epidemic has never once been take a queue from the girls and try to learn empathy as a skill set on top of the social conditioning that you're already getting as a man. the answer is 100% of the time to double down on developing their individual identity, self-improvement, personal routine stuff. if women have succeeded by adopting our strategies from before then the only answer is to build new strategies because we can't look to women as leaders, we have to reinvent the wheel now if we want to establish our new identities. and like dudes we want so badly to help you. all the time we're like yeah, it's hard with technology all the isolation we all deal with, it's hard to succeed at work, it's a lot of pressure to find a path, and the answer is always you couldn't possibly understand because you're not a guy. and like ok but do you not see the irony of complaining about the loneliness epidemic and having poor relationships and literally rejecting any help or sympathy or compassion from anyone? what is it you expect us to do? if you struggle to form intimate relationships (both platonic and romantic) is it really wild to work on your relationship building skills? why are you doubling and tripling down on self help and manosphere podcasts and body building when all of those are activities you do primarily alone?
the truth is the podcasters have a lot to gain from your isolation and women genuinely want to help you connect with other people and if you'd focus 1/10 the amount of energy into developing your interpersonal skills as you spend on developing yourself, you'd probably have friends and a girlfriend and maybe even an established life. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Vee already dating someone? Is he cheating on his girlfriend with Valain? /genq
[I had to look up genq to answer this cuz I didn't realize that meant genuine question LMAO]
BUT ANYWAYS- he is not!
It's hard to explain the nuance of notseanis [the elf species that makes up most of the population in my fantasy world, 'nis' for short] romance/dating societal rules, BUT I'll try and summarize!
Short version: People in Olmia aren't usually Monogamous! [only married to/in an active relationship with only one person at a time] Polyamory is very common, and nis have a loose relationship with romance and sex. The only thing they want you to do is 'produce at least 1 child in your life, even if you don't raise it.' Cheebi [Vee's partner] is supportive of him looking at other people, so long as they're good for him emotionally. Now, I can't make any statements on how she feels about Valain specifically, but you'll find out that stuff in the books. :)
Longer answer below the cut!
Longer answer: Olmia's societal rules are sort of like a fun-house-mirror version of my limited American [raised 'christian'] upbringing. But one of the things they differ the most on is the 'rules and expectations' around dating.
Many people in Olmia have multiple partners or random 'lovers'. Messing around [hooking up with random people] is seen as completely normal and is not considered 'cheating' if both people have consented to their relationship being open [which is the default expectation. Usually a couple will have conversations about being MONOGAMOUS and closed, instead of IRL where being Poly is the 'unusual' occurrence.]
However, 'traditional' folks in Olmia also have an unfair expectation that in order to 'earn' your right to be freely romantic or sexual with people, you need to reproduce with an itsu [one of the three sexes among nis, and the only one that can produce offspring]. Even if you just hook up with them and they agree to carry the child, you've 'done your job'. It comes with some pretty negative connotations and is pretty unfair and unbalanced, but that's how things are.
Because of this, it's common for people to start dating someone and have multiple other partners of various levels of romance/attachment. Nis highly value freedom [which is ironic considering some of their laws >>;;] and fulfilling their emotional nutrition needs with multiple partners. Because of this, the rate of failed relationships is actually super low compared to the real world! People aren't expected to 'settle and put up with each other'. If you commit to someone, it's usually expected that you've thought it over for at least a few years.
The only exception to this are 'high born' nis. These are high-class families that have much harsher expectations on them, and their whole goal is making as many heirs as possible to their families and businesses. However... high-born children are arranged into marriages where they are 'paired up' with their future partner in their mid teens, and expected to spend years bonding with them until they eventually are married, and then are expected to start creating heirs and raising them [or sending them off to be raised by nannies near the main home.] High Born families have really messed up rules about romantic relationships that I can't fully get into without spoiling some things about FYW.
But yeah! Cheebi would be fine with Vee having other partners! So long as she still knows he loves her, it doesn't bother her at all. She's had a few casual 'partners' here and there too!
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anthroparis · 8 months
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What's your take about bonsars relationship
if you're looking for me to slander bonsar or go "it's romantic or platonic no in between!" you are in the wrong place, compadre. I'm aromantic. I don't believe that a relationship has to be romantic at all to be considered a relationship. I'm romance-repulsed and still date people, and it's rarely ever a problem. I'm someone's (more than just one someone, technically) girlfriend and I'm still avoidant of explicitly romantic scenes.
so the question for me is more like, would bonnie and caesar, as characters, want to label each other as partners?
like, when I look at bonnie, I see someone who may not be wholly comfortable just jumping into labels like that. as they said in the romcom ep, they just got used to having friends, and rushing into relationships seems like something that would ultimately be bad for them.
caesar seems a little conflicted on what he wants, but he understands his personal feelings a little more- he's said it himself, he and bonnie are soulmates. they're a team. but he's hung up on what that means of them, and how they should proceed.
we had a similar argument back in the day about the rr ice dancers. there were people arguing for them romantically, people arguing for them platonically, people stating that they wouldn't be attracted to each other because x is gay and x is pan and x is so-and-so, and my stance has always been Who Give a Fuck.
sometimes people are just in love with each other in a way that's not platonic, nor romantic, nor sexual, but a secret fourth thing that either combines some or all of these elements or exists completely outside of them. I would consider my relationship with gideon to be something on its own entirely, and I think a lot of aro4aro couples (whether they include aroace or alloaro people) would share a similar sentiment.
if I had to explain bonsar in terms of my own relationship, it's this:
they're not quite in love in the traditional sense, but they are absolutely not friends. they love each other more than anything. they understand each other like no one else can. if everything goes to shit and they end up furious and alone, they'll still love each other, even if they could never admit that. they have a playful, friendly dynamic that's observed between friends, and a deep love of each other that most would associate with lovers. they hold hands in public like it's the most natural thing in the world. caesar is the only person bonnie feels comfortable expressing physical affection to. bonnie is the only person caesar feels comfortable talking to about his thoughts. bonnie started carrying bandaids on them after they met because caesar trips a lot and never remembers them. caesar was the only person to remember bonnie's birthday one year. they don't necessarily understand each other's taste in music, but that's okay, they know they don't have to be the exact same to enjoy each other's company. sometimes bonnie will start talking and then realize they've been going on for ten minutes straight because caesar doesn't stop them. when caesar rambles, he always gets surprised that bonnie will add on and listen actively because he's so used to people ignoring the mundane details about his life. sometimes bonnie gets quiet and doesn't want to talk about what's going on in their head and caesar holds them until they feel good again. sometimes it's the other way around. they cut each other's hair. they have sleepovers. they kiss, and it isn't a big deal. they talk about bad movies and good albums. they send each other pictures of the sky when they're apart. they share clothes. they argue about whether spring or autumn is better. they go over to each other's houses and bake cakes at midnight because they couldn't sleep. they go to the library together. they sit on swing sets and share earbuds. they can talk for a week straight or not talk for a month and their relationship remains unchanged. what they have is undoubtedly, irrefutably, love. not romantic love. not platonic love. just love.
is that so hard for people to understand?
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genuinely a curious question, how would the smiling man feel towards you (yandere) would he want to hurt you? hurt others you like romantically? try to win you over?
I went with this, bear with me, ‘non.
I think the smiling man would be an interesting yandere case, since I don't think he would ever have--in his mind--the idea of a "traditional relationship" with you.
He's this otherworldly entity, this thing, and while he certainly seems to enjoy a lot of human activities (the man loves pancakes and seems to genuinely enjoy his carnival, horrific trap that it is aside) I don't think he views the idea of relationships in the same way even a character like Chrollo from HunterxHunter would.
For me, I think the idea of him being yandere would start with someone who either beats him or rejects his offer. It peaks his interest, since it's not normally done. He doesn't like being beat, and it makes him want to win over you. So he tries again. You evade him, again.
He decides he has to have you. At first, "have" means, well, what it means for anyone else. He has your soul, essentially. Trapped and used up. Or he wants to condemn you to some terrible fate, like his plan to trap Ollie & co behind the mirror in the icy ghostly lodge. Because you beat him or reject him and really, how dare you??
After a while though, he wonders. Maybe he'd just like to keep you. As a trophy. A reminder that you, silly human, thought you could beat him and didn't. Or maybe... and the thought occurs to him as he meets you again, perhaps as he watches you in your daily life (do you keep looking over your shoulder at night because of him? How funny) that there's something more he wants from you.
But what?
He'll have to get you to find out, he supposes. It's not often things intrigue him, old as he is, powerful as he is, reaching as he is. But you do.
And if he gets you (and he certainly will) then perhaps things shift further. Sort of like what happens with Ollie in Empty Smiles. He won the initial game he set out to win, and then it's... "Huh. What now."
He does put on the veneer of being gentlemen-like, in many ways. So perhaps once you're trapped, he decides to converse with you. And having you here, with nothing to do but talk to him and obey whatever whims he sets out, makes him even more interested in you.
He might find that he likes to talk with you. He might find that he wants you near him. He might find that he would enjoy other interactions, too... sitting with you, playing chess, something more, eventually?
Re: Violence.
He's very... hands-off when it comes to violence. Oh, he doesn't mind it at all. It can be quite entertaining and useful.  He might use it to get you in the first place, but he's not going to hurt you himself or anything like that. Nor is there need for violence once you're on the other side of the mist.
I feel like he would try to “woo” a reader, maybe not literally romantically, but through the appearance of kindness and 
He would threaten others if he needed to get to you, and I don't think he'd have a problem with going through with it. "I don't save people from their own stupidity," as he said in Empty Smiles, and in a roundabout way, he would view you rejecting him as putting people in harm's way deliberately. It's your stupidity that got them hurt, not him.
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aro-culture-is · 2 years
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I accepted my asexuality pretty quickly. The country i live in sees the topic of sex as taboo and its never talked about. NEVER. Its toxic and bad but meh, its the culture. Maybe the reason i never had a problem with it was becauss im asexual.
But realising i might be aro is not. Im struggling with internalized arophobia. Im having identity crisis and existential crisis. And ive heard being aro/ace can be due to trauma? Is that real? Because if it is, lots of things start to make sense about me. Aplatonic aros? Is that a thing too? Ive always felt unfit. Never wanted a friend but seeing everyone in a group or with someone made me feel unworthy and broken from a young age. I don't want a traditional family and i feel like the one i currently am in would've gotten rid of me a long time ago if they could. My dad never kept it a secret how he disliked us, i know my mom sees me as a failure even tho she reassures me, and my brother's world is totally different from me. The few friends i managed to keep throughout the years either gotten on with their lives or found better people. What's the point of living then? Am i even human? How are other aros doing it? Am i aro or just a really shitty person who lost faith in love a long time ago? I need help
hi,
for one, yes - being a-spec can be due to trauma. There's even a microlabel for being aro (caedromantic) or ace (caedsexual) due to trauma.
aplatonic (apl) aros are absolutely a thing!
I'm so very sorry that you've had such a terrible experience with your family. Coming from an emotionally abusive household, I know how much it can completely change how you interact with others. If it is available and mental health services are okay in your country, I'd really recommend seeing a therapist. Even if you don't discuss aromanticism, asexuality, or aplatonicism, it's worth discussing with a professional about the ways you have been affected by the trauma of a family that never seems to accept you.
speaking again as a traumatized individual - as i've worked on my mental health, accepting my trauma, and moving forwards from my trauma, I personally have only grown more capable of accepting myself as aromantic and aplatonic-spectrum. I've learned that my life is my own; I can define what makes me happy in life and seek that, even if others will never understand.
I don't enjoy romantic relationships or living with others - so for me, my ideal future involves planning around living alone and what makes me happiest within that framework. I've considered that I do still get lonely, and that I'd love to have a cat - probably two, since some research seems to indicate cats generally are better adjusted when there are two.
I've thought about how I use my time - I'm disabled and in literal, full-body physical pain 24/7. Going places is an activity that requires me to plan recovery time, so I work especially hard to make my daily living comfortable. I'm currently working on finding little ways to make my life easier - putting meds, food, and water within easy reach of my bed and desk, for example - and learning to allow myself to enjoy those little things.
There's a certain amount of childish glee I'm learning to allow myself to enjoy from small activities. Those, for me, are a primary set of reasons to live. I enjoy my lotions, I eat breakfast for every meal, I lipsync in my bathroom mirror and giggle at my expressions. I learn to live as myself and I learn to see the small joys in it.
This isn't to suggest you aren't trying hard enough to find those joys! I don't think I truly could have done this without anti-depressants, therapy, and supportive friends (friendship is... complicated for me). You will have your own path forwards. I promise that with time and practice, things get better. It's rarely a sudden moment of change. It's often a sensation of taking a deep breath, saying to yourself "I am allowed to feel this way, and I am allowed to do what helps me feel better", and learning to comfort yourself. It's like seeing an echo of your younger self desperately trying not to cry, and realizing that they still exist within you, and you are now also the adult comforting that child, parenting yourself through things your parents never prepared you for.
I really, really hope things improve for you. You deserve to enjoy life. You deserve to not hurt.
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Hypothetically, let's assume this sadela karela ML, the object of my eternal ire despite your best efforts, doesn't exist, and the two sweethearts, Khushi and La meet elsewhere under different circumstances- where do they go? Is there a universe somewhere with these two being each other's happily ever after? 🥺🥺🥺
Hello Ji Suno Ab Sambhal Jao Ji, Yeh Hai Tumhari Dost Ki Blog Ji... Kisiko Yeh Na Kare Naraaz, Na Jaane Ajeeb Sawaalo Ka Kya Hai Raaz... (not dedicated to you, but like to people who do send ajeeb sawaal)
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This is a very interesting question because of the nature of Khushi and Lavanya's friendship. I believe there are some friendships which have the possibility of blooming into a romance (where you can see some level of chemistry existing, missed opportunities, etc). And then there are friendships which are familial in nature (have an easy time opening up with each other, discuss things that can't be discussed with family, almost treating the other as a confidante and the position of a sibling).
With Lavanya and Khushi, it's very much a familial friendship (I think). They're both amazing women but they're also existing as a part of family that neither have access to. They simply don't have family members who are always there to even speak to the other person or have fun with.
So you see in an AU where only Arnav isn't there, it's tough to see them in love because I think both of them are coded as heterosexual women who develop a kinship where they're family to each other. (Not that they'd date each other simply because they're not heterosexual). There's sisterhood in this universe.
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However, if Khushi and La are in an AU where they'd find women sexually and romantically attractive (for romance IS very important to Khushi) - and don't deviate to kinship in their friendship trajectory...
Hmm this would have to be early on where La probably realizes she is in a terrible relationship with her partner and that Khushi would see La has everything she wants in a romantic partner... (the foundation of this friendship needs to be on a slightly different tangent...)
Then absolutely they'd fall in love and live happily ever because neither of the women would hurt the other. If they would it could be because Lavanya has a tendency to not say when her wishes have changed and Khushi would hide some things because she would feel it would hurt La if she knew and La would pretend to not know even if she realizes some things are hidden. So yeah, little communication issues there, but be rest assured this is a couple that would other absolutely work out. And anyone who loves Khushi has to fight with her traditional family so poor La will have to fight with Guptas and probably elope with her in London/USA!
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A good way to understand this is to take another famous friendship into consideration - Samrat and Mayank. Their friendship, in the same universe, is very much like the first type of friendship - where chemistry actively exists and the friendship isn't kinship.
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I very much think that in the same universe if Gunjan and Nupur weren't around there was a heavy chance that they'd fall for each other. They enjoy each other's presence, are almost always battling to be equals. Immediately form a respect towards the other's talents despite being a competition. Very easily fall in 'couple' spaces. Also they constantly find out they share underlining similarities in times of emotional vulnerability. Like Mayank deals with his stress through books, and Samrat through basketball.
You could put them in a house to live together as roommates and they'd live like romantic partners, NO DOUBT. They wouldn't even know when they'd start living like a married couple.
There's this familiarity that Samrat and Mayank share and a teasing that can easily veer into flirtation.
For example, if Mayank accidentally came across a shirtless Samrat practicing basketball and get distracted while studying due to his solo practice, Mayank could very well say,
"I didn't know there was a tradition to play basketball, half naked, at midnight to irritate people who try to study,"
To which Samrat could very well respond,
"Irritation or distraction? And instead of your books if your attention is on my state of undress, please be my guest, I don't mind."
And the reason it's so easy to ship Samrat and Mayank is because of who they choose as partners! Gunjan is very similar to Mayank while Nupur is very similar to Samrat.
In many ways Nupur and Samrat are cut from the same cloth - like Mayank and Gunjan (even their clothes are in the same color wheel initially!)
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On the other hand, based on how much IPK showed, both La and Khushi do not choose people who are like them as romantic partners!
Lol, I got distracted myself answering this.
To answer your question in short: Yes, in an alternate universe Khushi and Lavanya will be HAPPILY EVER AFTER. They'd be wholesome beans in wholesome love.
Best,
S
P.S: I'm hetero so there's FULL possibility I probs missed some key points!
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disappearingmuse · 11 months
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I feel like you're gonna get hit with Eizen for 002 or EiRoku for 001 so I'm gonna say "Rokurou for 002" and then RETURN LIKE A DEMON if the other two don't happen.
I literally just started being more active on this blog so I dunno how hit I'll get but THANK YOUUU
How I feel about this character?
A very bad boy who is also a very good boy and I like him. Rokurou is a character that's VERY easy to characterize based on surface level because Rokurou himself invites that- he willingly presents himself as a simple person who only cares about swords, and it takes digging deeper into his backstory and dialogue to get the full picture (true of many characters, but ESPECIALLY true with Rokurou, I'd argue.) The sidequest "Rokurou's Blade" is our up-close look at the (actually deeply emotional) person he used to be and how his upbringing shaped him. In the present, the contrast of him openly calling himself heartless while also going out of his way to make the people around him comfortable and happy is fascinating.
All the people I ship romantically with this character: 
Technically just Eizen, but I did write a Rokurou/Kurogane request once and that was SO MUCH FUN.
My non-romantic OTP for this character: 
Eleanor! I love the conversation they have after the Shigure fight where he wants to take her out for ice cream. I headcanon that Rokurou has always wanted a younger sibling, and Eleanor seems to be filling that role for him in that moment.
My unpopular opinion about this character:
I don't know how unpopular this is because I've seen it said before, but I've also seen the opposite, so I guess it's kinda a contentious point: Rokurou experiences more emotions than he lets on.
I like that the writers keep it ambiguous how much feeling Rokurou retains, but I do think they make subtle hints at Rokurou retaining more emotion than he shows on the surface (at least, that's how I interpret those moments. I could write a whole essay on them, I'll keep it brief here though.) My interpretation is that his emotions ARE severely blunted, but a part of his supposed lack of emotionality is due to him repressing them and denying they exist because he doesn't want them to.
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon:
Again, I like the gaps the writers left because it leaves room for interpretation, but I would never say no to more Rangetsu lore, both the family traditions and the family members themselves. There's so much more nuance to those family relationships that "oh it was all purely bad."
My OTP:
Eizen/Rokurou makes my heart go ape shit
My crossover ship:
I once saw Cless/Rokurou as a crack ship and I could get behind that! Sword boys!
Headcanon:
I hinted at it before but: Rokurou fully embraces losing his full capacity for emotion because, as we see from his backstory, he used to a painfully emotional person.
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harleyshahas · 2 years
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Guess who's mad about Frozen again?!
Anna and Elsa are the worst examples of sisterhood. They hardly talk to each other throughout the movie with the exception of their, admittedly cute, bonding in the intro. But then The Plot happens and, their parents being The Worst, actively encourage Elsa into isolation, they actively encourage the sisters away from each other. And yeah, I get it, that's the point, the story needs to happen, but how do they go 9-10 years without talking to each other? How can you look at this movie and be like, "Oh yeah, excellent example of sisterhood and being a family and love and all that?!" They don't talk to each other!
They don't talk to each other growing up, despite Anna desperately wanting to talk to Elsa. Eventually she flat out gives up. Once again, I get it, that's The Point, they both have to move past their own issues in this film and, once again, I admit it works. But only for them as individuals, not as sisters.
They don't speak again until the coronation, where it's, also admittedly cute, awkward and tense, they don't know how to talk to each other anymore. They bond over chocolate of all things and it's actually a good little moment, like meeting up with an old friend you haven't seen since childhood and trying to reestablish a common interest. It's a good scene, probably my favorite in the movie, and it's the only time they have a good interaction. After this, Elsa boots her off to dance with Weaselman where the Hans thing happens (we all know how I feel about Hans, my man deserved better, I won't get into it here), and instead of using this time to build a relationship between Anna and Elsa, whom the movie is supposed to be about, we get a boppy romance number, and some more character about Anna. At this point in the movie, Anna has had too much focus. What we need is Elsa time. What we need is some Elsa and Anna time.
This would have been a great opportunity to build up the relationship between the sisters (the core theme of the movie) instead of a poorly subverted romance subplot. This would have also been a good time to give Elsa some actual character. She's pretty flat, ngl.
The next time the sisters talk is for them to fight over quite frankly the dumbest thing in existence. "You can't marry a man you just met," my ass. We need the plot to move forward in the most contrived way possible because what do they have to fight about when we don't know what they have in common? Had they actually taken the time to speak before we might have actually had a good reason for a fight, like say an actually cute and meaningful moment between the two only for it to take a tense turn when the subject of their isolation finally gets brought up. They could have talked, we the audience could have watched this cute bonding experience build organically and the sisters actually start to learn about each other, only for it to take a tense, dramatic turn that could have actually meant something for the story and for their relationship! God, I'm so fucking mad at this movie, we could have had better!
Anyway, bullshit fight (over a man of all things, even if it's not in the traditional sense) ensues, Elsa's powers are revealed, she runs, Anna tries to stop her, Arendelle's covered in snow, cue fantastic girl power song. Let It Go is amazing, I'm not too proud to admit that.
Anna then leaves Arendelle in the hands of someone acutally capable to chase after her and we get another contrived romantic subplot with Kristoff, with even more contrived parody bullshit over Disney romance (they're kids movies, guys, a little unbelievable romance is the fucking point, it's all fantasy) and Olaf. We get a couple scenes of how Hans is handling the kingdom (pretty well, all things considered (yes, I'm a Hans apologist, fight me)), he comes up with an actual plan, and we're back to Anna and Kristoff. Throughout all this character growth with Anna and her romance options, we get Nothing from Elsa. She gets a song and is cut from the film until Anna shows up outside her fancy ice palace.
Maybe instead of Anna and Kristoff romance bonding, and Olaf (and no one seems to want to talk about how Elsa has the ability to create actual sentient Life and has the powers of a literal god) and getting his I Want song, we could have had a good bit with Anna going up the mountain by herself, finding the strength to push ahead solely for the love of her sister, we could have had some (actual) introspection from Elsa about the nature of her powers, her relationship with them and the relationship with her parents and her sister. We could have had a song where they sing a duet from the top and bottom of the mountain, Anna could have pushed through on her own and over the course of her journey realize that she is a strong single woman who doesn't need a man. I honestly think her journey would have meant more if she had undertaken it completely alone, maybe running into Olaf at some point to liven up this kids movie I'm still mad about. The point is, we didn't need another romance subplot. We needed more time with Elsa and Anna. But most specifically with Elsa.
While Let It Go is a good song, it's not actually very telling. It's about Elsa coming to terms with her powers, and that's good, but it ultimately doesn't mean anything. She regresses the next we see her when Anna shows up. She hasn't come to terms with it. She's still scared of what she can do. If Let It Go really was supposed to be the empowerment song it was supposed to be, then we should have had a brief scene or two of her using her powers in the ice palace. We should have seen her experimenting with them, making ice sculptures and decorations to fill the palace with, basically having fun being able to let loose with them or something.
Think of the scene from Tangled, when Rapunzel sets foot on grass for the first time. It's no big musical number, but instead she's running and frolicking and using her hair for all this new and wild open world to explore. She's in the process of having a mental breakdown for going against Goethel's orders, but she's still just so excited to be free. We spend the entire movie with Rapunzel, watching her get a feel for how hair can work in this new environment. Rapunzel is very similar to Anna in personality, so Anna going off on her own to brave the mountain to find her sister actually alone isn't so far out of the realm of possibility as she has the same drive. Elsa is more reserved, so her being alone to explore her powers works and I personally would have loved to see her make Marshmallow and actually react to the fact that she can create literal life, since she didn't see Olaf come to life.
Kristoff didn't need to be in this movie and I resent his inclusion.
The next time the sisters interact its to Anna telling Elsa she needs to come back and fix things. Immediately jumping straight to the blame game, neither of them take the time to learn anything about the other or understand what the other is going or has gone through. Elsa's powers going out of control makes sense here, but the buildup to it could have been more meaningful, could have made me care a bit more. Arendelle was snow-covered for like two days, they could stand to be covered a bit more for the relationship to build. Then Anna gets hit with ice, Marshmallow chases them off a cliff, bullshit romance subplot, Elsa is captured by Hans (actually a well-done scene, I have no critiques on that).
Once again, their relationship should have taken centerstage. Elsa could have invited Anna in, shown off all these amazing things she can do, Anna taking the time to listen to her for once, to see her actually excited about something rather than a depressed shut in. Anna could have told Elsa all about her adventure, introduced Olaf properly, they could have had a beautiful bonding moment together, this would have been a great place for the relationship to build naturally, and the tension could have risen the longer it went on as Anna tried to break the news of Arendelle, instead of jumping straight to the Plot.
They don't talk again until the end of the movie.
They don't SEE each other again until Anna gets (ha) frozen.
And I honestly don't care by that point. Why should I care that Elsa feels bad about freezing her sister? They had little to no interaction, barely any chemistry to build upon and make me care that they care. Because nothing in the movie tells me they care. It's mostly to blame on the bullshit romance subplot, the whole movie relies on Kristoff and Anna's growing relationship when that's not what this movie is about? It's about sisterhood? Is it? Is it, really???
No. No it's not.
Frozen spends so much time focusing on Anna and Hans, on Anna and Kristoff, when it should have focused entirely on Anna and Elsa (with a little bit of Hans in there for flavor if Disney really couldn't help themselves, but even then I think it would have been fine without him). This supposed movie about sisterhood lacks in sisterhood so much that it's really just... ya know...
A bad movie.
Anyway, Anna is melted by Elsa's love (which I don't believe for a second), Arendelle is unfrozen, and Anna punches my man in the face in a dumb moment of Girl Power (he totally deserved it in the context of the story, I won't lie). And then Anna gives Kristoff a new sleigh, she kisses him to wrap up the bullshit romance, and she STILL doesn't have any meaningful conversation with Elsa. After the intro they have a total of four, FOUR scenes together. In this movie about SISTERHOOD.
Go watch Lilo and Stitch if you want an actual good movie about sisterhood.
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elainemorisi · 3 years
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urg, I could take or leave romance and definitely take or leave sex, but I’d really like to live with an adult who would like, decorate the mantlepiece and do landscaping with me
#and mutually commit to doing that indefinitely is why it's not just 'roommate' to be clear#I've said it before but not recently#the relationship I actively want is 'companion'#ambiguity fuckin' included in that term#which is what's now missing from it / why it is not a usable term in modern understanding#like I do not CARE if it's romantic or not#not in favor not opposed#doesn't MATTER#yeah yeah any specific person obviously it'd cease to be ambiguous that's not the ambiguity I'm whining about#I mean it's apparently a fucking incomprehensible idea that what I am looking for is entirely unrelated in EITHER direction#which makes it damn difficult to act on that looking let me tell you#(because I actively don't want a thing that starts as a traditional romantic relationship because sex + dating both no sir for a long time)#(but friendship as we know is not given the sort of weight necessary to hold this as a possibility until it's already happened#vs how dating is capable of containing the potential for marriage/whatever without committing to it before it should)#queerplatonic IS the closest term in modern language#(or it was ten years ago I'm not sure if it's been entirely subsumed by the 'you have bastardized that right back into normative' crowd yet)#but a) qp has to some extent been bastardized into both 'normal friendship' and 'romance but I'm not calling it that for some reason'#and b) even the unbastardized version takes a stance on romance#hey useful tagrant though I think I did put my finger on it there#it's not that 'what are you saying friendship is inadequate friendship is gr8!'#no shit#it's that friendships are not capable of handling POTENTIAL#they just have to flail and get lucky and never talk about it and it's weird as shit!
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