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kitkatpancakestack · 1 year
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You expressed perfectly how I miss buddie, and how the lack of them doesn’t make me enjoy s6 as I should. And I know it’s not the buddie show, it’s an ensemble cast etc… but their relationship is one of the most important on the show, seeing it disappear in s6 had made me really sad, I just hope we’ll get more of them in 6b, but honestly I’m not sure, people saying that even 5a was like this, but well nope, 5a had amazing long buddie scenes
Absolutely, I mean there's a reason engagement with 6a has probably felt lackluster. Love it or hate it Buck and Eddie's relationship is a mesmerizing facet of the show that draws a lot of people in.
And you're right about 5a, it gave them the blackout scenes, the balcony scene, the hostage scene, etc.
9-1-1 has been my favorite show since it started airing, so obviously I love all the characters, they're very close to my heart. But character dynamics are really what get me (and a lot of others) tuning in week to week, not the emergencies, bc it's a show about the characters and they are so well fleshed out. So it's perfectly fine to admit this! There is no shame in saying the season falls short for you bc of this! Erase the idea that being a buddie shipper is some major transgression in the eyes of the fandom that you have to hide or overcompensate for! Lack of a ship dynamic is the reason I frankly cannot stand 5a, bc Chimney is my favorite character and Madney is another couple where their absence is so strongly felt that it changes the viewing experience for me. A similar thing is happening with Buck and Eddie in 6a, even though neither of them are gone, but their scenes are not as frequent as they maybe should be and/or not as emotionally satisfying.
I'm eager to see what they do in 6b, bc I also do think Buck's storyline will play a major role with the potential for some excellent scenes with Eddie. We will see!
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nymika-arts · 1 year
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just been seeing some posts today
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angstydiaz · 1 year
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911 fandom be normal about women challenge
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gayedmundodiaz · 1 year
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AND ANOTHER THING
9-1-1 absolutely did not reduce Eddie down to ‘just an angry guy’. We have to remember that everything from Buck’s coma dream wasn’t canonically what would have happened had Buck not been there. That was Buck’s perception of how things might have gone.
Some of the biggest impacts on his relationships with Bobby and Eddie include Bobby’s recovery and near relapse, and Eddie joining the fight club. Imo, Buck views these events as pivotal in their relationships. So his brain, when weaving this intricate story that’s showing him what he means to people, it latches on to these key things and says ‘hey, if you weren’t around, these things would have been worse. These things wouldn’t have worked out’.
It’s not 9-1-1 reducing Eddie to anything, it’s not 9-1-1 mischaracterizing people - this was Buck’s point of view and we know damn well that Buck and all his self loathing can sometimes be an unreliable narrator.
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mazzystar24 · 1 month
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I’ve seen discourse about buck and Eddie’s sexualities (whether each of them are gay or bi) and personally I think people should just let people have their own headcanons and stop being so pressed
Like I firmly believe Eddie is gay and in a post where I blabbered abt my reasoning I had a bunch of people who didn’t have that same headcanon replying with theirs in a very respectful and friendly way, not arguing about anything just saying how they see it without invalidating my opinion and those kind of interactions are how fandoms should be or at the very least just ignore posts with other headcanons
That aside if you wanna argue and do all that jazz please stay away from harmful narratives, yes these are fictional characters but if you’re saying shit like “people just want Eddie to be gay and not bi to feminise him” (something I saw on the blog of someone who was mocking in the replies of one of my posts about my headcanons) then you’re a dinosaur with backward views of sexualities for a buddie shipper
Also arguments that disregard the existence of comp het need to get out of the building, same with arguments that don’t recognise that many many many gay or lesbian people will have had sexual relationships with people of the opposite gender and have found it enjoyable doesn’t mean they can’t still be gay! Like yeah you can’t hurt fictional characters feelings and fictional characters don’t need their sexualities validated but some of the narratives y’all are leading with just insult an entire part of the gay community
Anyways that being said go have your own head canons, guys have fun, literally who cares and if you wanna argue about it don’t be a dick about it- don’t do it on people’s blogs who you disagree with and don’t make arguments that are ignorant ❤️
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stagefoureddiediaz · 1 year
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I really really hope Oliver has seen some of the incredible and positive reactions and posts here on Tumblr and on other social media.
It makes me so sad to think he’s been bombarded with negative stuff about something he worked so hard on and clearly put so much of himself into, when there are so many of us out here who thought that episode was incredible and thought his acting was off the charts good.
Oliver if you have a secret Tumblr account I hope you know that most of us are decent human beings who think you’re incredible and feel privileged to get to watch you bring Buck to life!
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h-c-l-p · 1 year
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Ngl I’m really happy about how Eddie reacted. He did scream Bucks name and go to rescue him, but he went into action mode lowering Buck and then driving the ambulance. I’m really happy to see that they stayed pretty consistent with how Eddie has been characterized in the past. He is not the type to be rendered incompetent by a stressful situation, therapy is not going to (and shouldn’t) change who he is at his core.
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suavecitodiaz · 11 months
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Whether you excuse everything or not we can all agree that Christopher Diaz has been through so much heartache and grief in such a short amount of time and deserves the whole world
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rogerzsteven · 1 year
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Off My Chest
I don't know if you know (at this point I'd be surprised if you don't), but I've been living hell for the past 4 days.
Two big earthquakes hit ten cities of Turkey on 6th of Feb, 4.17 am (one city being the city I live in and one being my hometown + where my relatives and family friends live), and the aftermath is devastating to say the least.
I am hurt, I am tired, I am mentally exhausted, I am upset, I am scared and sad and always on edge in case something happens.
Some of my relatives lost their homes, some of my aquaintances, family members, friends lost their lives, and there are thousands, thousands of people still stuck under the rubble, either dead or waiting for someone to find them under the rubble.
If, they are able to be found.
My hometown is dust. The places I've spent my childhood no longer exist. Everything is wrecked.
The supplies aren't enough, the weather is freezing and help is too slow.
Death toll is more than 16,000 and rising, and at this point I can't help but to think I was just at the right place at the right time and it was luck.
When I first started reblogging those donation posts about Turkey, I had high expectations of the possible traction in general, but mainly of the fandom I'm currently in. I thought this fandom was in unity when I used to see blogs, many blogs reblogging the posts of the ones in rough condition asking for help, whether it's individual or for a good cause. Because that's what fandom means, right? A community to support and lift each other up on good and bad days. To show that we are there for each other even if it's through the screen.
I was wrong.
I was not expecting the immense lack of support from the fandom that is supposed to be big, helpful and full of 'activists'.
Not only have I barely seen donation/support posts appearing on my dash from people I follow or my mutuals, but the ones I've seen are reblogged from me by the same handful of people over and over again.
Don't get me wrong, no one is obligated to reblog or show support, life goes on and people move on, but isn't it hypocritical when the same blogs who are very much outspoken and active and even accuse others of staying disinterested when it comes to fandom discourse or situations that have direct impact on them in one way are now completely silent and act like nothing is happening when it comes to something like this?
My people are DYING. And you care about— what, polls? Fandom speculations?
Good for you.
Is it too much to reblog a few times so others can see it? Would your blog's aesthetic get ruined?
Or do you just not give a shit and only show your performative side when it gets you likes and followers?
I see all of you, and I will not forget this.
I don't think I will post donation posts as frequently as I did before from now on because I want to feel some sense of normalcy on tumblr but before I go, since there is a handful of mutuals/ online friends who kept reblogging my posts, I would like to thank them individually from the bottom of my heart.
@monsterrae1 @swiftiediaz @buddierights @prettyboybuckley : You guys. The support you guys have shown from day one. Every day. I love you. You pure souls.
@kananjarus : You. YOU. I have no words. I want to cry just thinking about what you've done. No words are enough.
@copyninjakura : You are a good hearted person. I love you. Thank you for your constant check ins and reblogs.
@rxdscarf : Not once you've let me down. 5+ years of friendship and I am so grateful. I am lucky.
@skyhighrollins911 : You've always been there to see how I am and how things are. Thank you, I love you so much.
@stagefoureds : Sabahın köründe beni telefonla aradın ya, sen muhteşem bir detaysın.
@bievanbuckley : The Greek to my Turk, ben seni sevdiğimi dünyalara bildirdim.
@ricoka : You're not in the fandom, but thank you my girl.
@spotsandsocks & @the-likesofus : Thank you for being concerned about me.
@buddiefication : We've been following each other for what— days? You don't even know me, and yet you kept reblogging each post from day one. I am so thankful. Thank you, friend.
@alyxmastershipper : Again, from day one, you kept reblogging each support post. THANK YOU.
@jobairdxx @swiftiebuckleys @mandzuking17 @thebestbooksaround @allysghostinthemachine @scifiromance7 @daughterofbuddie @maybeicanbesaved @colonoscopys @verylazyanimal : Thank you for reblogging many times.
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mellaithwen · 1 year
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adsjkjsdj every single bad take I've seen and heard is from people literally misunderstanding the assignment fact that the whole coma!dream is from the POV of an unreliable narrator.
NOT because Buck is unreliable as a person, but because it's nOT his conscious thoughts that are in charge! Your subconscious lacks the same awareness that your conscious mind has. There's less nuance! No shades of grey! But that's the whole point. You're supposed to see that, and think harder.
The perfect example is when Daniel makes a quip about his parents not remembering that he exists when his parents are fussing over Buck after his "ladder fall"
On the surface you could think "okay, Daniel is a bit of a dick."
But remember Daniel doesn't exist. and Buck went 30 years without knowing about Daniel because his parents pretended he didn't exist.
The passive aggressive tone that Daniel has in that moment? Is one we've literally seen Buck use himself when he's hurting (he even does it in the argument in 4x04!). And we know Buck has a fraught relationship with his parents - we've seen from his childhood that things weren't perfect - his subconscious knows that too so Daniel represents that slightly more acidic tone that's being used.
& this isn't even a true deep dive! Mostly because I refuse to put my academic hat on before 10am, but the thing you have to bear in mind throughout the episode is that every single person we see in the coma!dream is a manifestation of Buck's for better or for worse.
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cowgirleddiediaz · 11 months
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Look, I’m gonna say it, the way some people are talking about the 911 writers right now is kind of ridiculous . “This would’ve been a terrible series finale”, like no shit?? But it also seems pretty obvious that they were trying to wrap everyone’s arcs up at the last minute because they didn’t know what was happening with the renewal/move. Which probably explains why s6 has some of the best moments in the show but it feels like those moments are held together with duct tape and spit. Because, yeah it’s very odd to set up an elaborate couch metaphor and then ‘resolve’ it with a woman who’s had 10 minutes of screen time total. Deeply odd. See also: Eddie telling Buck not to date someone from a call and then doing that himself 3 episodes later. Or having a b-plot in the finale about a woman stepping up for her dead best friend’s daughter, i.e the thing Buck would have to do if Eddie died, but it having no relevance to anything. Like even Buck’s clear heartbreak at having to hand over the sperm donor baby being resolved in >5 minutes. These are all odd and disjointed choices, that scream last minute rewrite. And it’s okay to be disappointed by that, but that doesn’t mean the writers are vindictive bitches who are inherently terrible at their jobs.
Like, I promise you, none of these people are out to get you, most of them are probably overworked and underpaid at the best of times (ya know, the whole on strike right now thing) and a messy will-they-won’t-they renewal is not that. TV production is just like this sometimes. So maybe instead of crucifying the writers we can take a step back and go “yeah, this must’ve sucked for them” (both creatively and not knowing if they’d have a job in 6 months) and offer a smidge of grace to the people who entertain us week after week?
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loserdiaz · 11 months
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you can keep saying "buck picked the wrong couch again! so what?" tell youre blue in the face but considering this was supposed to be a series finale and how kristen saw fit to end things.... that argument doesnt hold a ton of weight.
yeah but considering they thought they wouldn't get another season, im happy with the ep.
i rather have an open ending for buddie and see everyone fix it on fanfiction that have buddie going canon and being a rushed thing. i rather have buck picking the wrong couch and eddie asking incest girl on a date that have them being rushed.
like??? i want eddie to explore his sexuality, to come to terms with his own identity not only bc is in love with buck but also for himself, bc he might be a queer latin man (how many of those do we get in media?), i want to see him work through it and accept himself and let himself free. o want to see that BEAUTIFUL character exploration and i WANT the slow burn. i want them to be careful with each other and gentle like no one else has been with them.
do you think we could've gotten that in the last ten mins of an episode?? bc i don't. it would've been a disservice and ppl would've find a reason to be mad anyway.
so whatever, die mad about it. idk what you want me to tell you.
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marriedmadney · 11 months
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I think a lot of people on here, especially those of you from white western backgrounds should take a step back and a moment to think about all the jokes made about Marisol and her brother. 
Shows of affection in other cultures can be more involved and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The amount of people I’ve seen saying Eddie should run from Marisol because of her “clear thing” with her brother is just nasty. Incest jokes play at a power dynamic that’s incredibly damaging to the victims of that, and the behavior Marisol and her brother displayed was nowhere near that. 
As a Latine I’ve been told my displays of affection that are completely normal in another cultural context are wrong and perverted by white westerners. A lot of the jokes on here play to that tune. They’re just jokes sure, but they reflect a very real attitude people hold. 
It’s one thing to not want Eddie to end up with Marisol, it’s another to add in this twist of “oh he better run” and “he better know she kisses her brother with those lips” 
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gayedmundodiaz · 11 months
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It’s quite hilarious seeing both sides of this debate, if you will. The ‘Im angry this is the worst why would they do this to us how dare they commit this grave injustice’ vs the ‘this is the best show ever still and we shouldn’t question the all-mighty writers because actually the fans don’t mean anything’ it’s actually really really funny, truly
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tenisperfection · 2 years
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Saying 911 doesn’t have queer representation just because the only two men you care about haven’t kissed yet is going to be my villain origin story.
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stagefoureddiediaz · 11 months
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I am so excited about the finale and what it could mean for Buddie. Eddie wanting someone to be there after a tough call.. But we know both Marisol and Natalia will be in the finale. Couldn’t it be that both Buck and Eddie will “sit” with them after the tough call? I mean, I know the couch is about the Buckley Diaz family. I just think it’ll be in season 7 when we get the conclusion of the couch theory. I don’t know, just knowing that they are there, makes me very careful about what I hope for in this finale.
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I'm going to answer all of these together because I do not have the energy to rinse and repeat answer the same thing over and over!!
I am excited - very excited about tonights episode - so many things set up and so many things going on from what we've seen already.
first things first - I'm going to deal with Natalia. I genuinely don't think she's going to be about for more than this episode - I'm very much expecting some form of resolution with her - she is now tied into the sperm donor story as well as Bucks death story arc and from my position that is intentional - the contrast between life and death - Bucks choice is clear in this - he'll choose life because he is realising he has so much to live for and all Natalia has ever seen in Buck - really is his death. So I have no worries about her appearance - I'm simply intrigued to she how it plays out and how Buck goes about choosing himself and choosing life!
As for Marisol - I'm putting it under a cut because this got a bit long!
Firstly - where have you found confirmation of a stunt double listed for Edy/Marisol?? I've never heard of her having one listed anywhere and no one else has either - if she had one listed anywhere then 911bts would know about it and would've let us all know. You bringing it up is literally the first I'm hearing about it. So I think its safe to rule her out from actually being at the big disaster - there is already enough going on there, and with far more important characters in relation to the firefam for her to fit in those scenes. feel free to come back to me if I'm wrong, but personally I can't see it.
We don't have any context for her appearance, and that includes if there is going to be anything romantic set up with her and Eddie. for all we know they're setting her up to be a friend to Eddie (because Eddie really does see all women as friend shaped) My feeling is that the show won't go that far with them and will at most leave it ambiguous - its a season finale and the showrunners didn't know if this was going to be the final season of the show so the likelihood of them going big on starting something of a romantic nature is fairly unlikely - its far more likely that they'll leave it open and in more of an ambiguous place that is satisfying to viewers but leaves them enough wiggle room to play on it in season 7if they got the green light for said season 7.
911 has always been about leaving its characters in good and hopeful places at the end of all its seasons and that uncertainty around renewal would've been something they were aware of going into the writing of this script. That means they would've chosen to write a season end that was fitting as a series end as well - something that left enough threads in play that they could pick them back up again if renewal came, but at the same time wrapped things up nicely for everyone if not. this is something the show has been very good at doing as a whole - if you rewatch any finale episode from any season as view it as a last ever episode you will find all arcs have been wrapped up in a way that is both satisfactory if there were no further episodes, but also open enough that lots of seeds for future storytelling have been planted.
there are other things to consider here as well. This season hasn't really been about romantic love - its been about family, the changing dynamics of family, building and strengthening the family you have, actually understanding the family you have/have been building. that is what we have seen for all the characters all season long - Bathena figuring out the next stage for them as empty nesters and having grown up children. Bobby admitting he views buck as a son, his struggles with Wendell's death - his AA family. Athena dealing with her parents - when the child becomes the carer, and solving something that had haunted her family most of her life. Hen and Karen dealing with Hen taking on too much and neglecting her family as a result, having to deal with adding another parent into the mix as well as the exploration of how their family came to be in the first place. Madney - growing back together again, choosing to take the risk and be a family in everything, not just in parenting Jee, actually building a house of their own together - not one that was either of theirs from before, but one that is both of theirs from the beginning and one that allows them to take any next steps they want. the engagement whilst romantic etc is also about choosing family - something Maddie wasn't able to do with Doug because it wasn't safe, and something Chim never had with his own father - their engagement was as much about overcoming family trauma, learning from and healing from it as it was about romantic love.
Then we have Buddie - the family on paper (thanks to the will) even if they haven't figured themselves out yet or even talked about it. They sit in parallel to all of the other couples on the show in so many ways and that is very deliberate. For Eddie this season has been about his changing dynamic with Christopher as he grows up and seeks independence and who Eddie is if he doesn't have father and firefighter to hide behind - if he just gets to be Eddie. Its also been about him putting the ghost of Shannon to rest and being in a place where he can move on and create something new (even if he sucks at dating and has never actually questioned what it is he wants). While for Buck it has been about reckoning with ghosts and understanding that DNA doesn't make a family. Its been about Buck recognising which family is more important to him - the DNA family or the found family and choosing things for himself (which is why his new couch has to go) its been about him figuring out his place and where he's at peace (you know the place he can fall asleep as soon as he sits down - like Eddies couch maybe). The entire season has been spent building up Buddifer as a family dynamic and showing how much they all mean to each other and how much of a co-parent Buck is with Eddie. We've even had his relationship with Chris very loudly contrasted with the one Chim has with Denny just to make it extra obvious.
All this to say that the show hasn't been doing all this for nothing and I'm pretty convinced that they will send us into hiatus with all the pieces set up ready to build on in season 7.
Back to how Marisol fits into all of this - its pretty simple - the show is great at giving us lots of subtext - we just have to choose to read it. I've already answered an ask about how the name Marisol means our lady of solitude - the thing Eddie is feeling right now because he is focused on the concept of everyone dying alone and isn't quite in a place to look more deeply at the Buck of it all - he's getting there, but he isn't quite ready yet.
Then we have the construction aspect of the Eddie/Marisol dynamic - everything around them has been in relation to construction - but always about constructing something for someone else - Eddie goes to her house to help with repairs (with Buck and other fire fighters) - not something for himself. They meet again at a DIY store when both of them are looking for something for someone else - her for her brother, him for his son. The focus of their interaction was very much about other people and helping other people so there is something to be said about the idea of construction on sunset (a metaphor for Eddie thats been in play for a long time) and her helping him to figure out and fix whatever that construction is so that the road ahead is clear for his happily ever after (the sunset) - she isn't the sunset, she's just the construction worker - to help Eddie with the final piece of the puzzle.
The other thing to keep in mind is costuming for both Marisol and Eddie. We are pretty sure that one of Marisol's costumes tonight is an olive green and blue tie dye sweatshirt - literally the Buddie colours of the season, because we have a bts photo of Edy in what looks very much like a costume (her hair and makeup have also been done as Marisol).
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Eddie is green and Buck is blue (Eddie has worn green 11 and blue 4 times this season and Buck has worn blue 22 times and green 7 times - far far more than any other colours they've worn except black for Eddie which he has rarely worn around Buck - except when in his widows weeds) , from the clothes they wear and the cases they have on their phones, the blue and green has been a very deliberate choice - Eddie is growing and Buck is water trying to find its level. Putting Marisol in a top that is a literal mash up of their two colours is telling me that whatever her scenes are, her role will be one that in some way brings Buddie together, not one that creates a wedge between them because up to now the costume department has been careful to steer clear of any Buck or Eddie related colours on either Natalia or Marisol.
That isn't to say that I don't think Marisol will feature in some way - I do and I think we will see her carry over into season 7, but there is literally nothing the writers (and all the other departments) have done that makes me think she is anything but someone who is meant to help Eddie get to a place where he is ready to see what he has already built - what is already in front of him - that Buck is the person who will always sit with him in the mess and make it his mess too.
Literally all the things the show is doing is pointing to Buddie and to expect it to happen and for them to go canon tonight is just foolish - neither Buck nor Eddie are ready for that, both have some more healing and growing to do before we get to that point and they need to have a conversation - a big massive conversation which tonights episode doesn't have room for because its a conversation that an entire episode will be built around. There is already some amazing Buddie related stuff that we've had in the sneak peeks and we will likely get more, all of which builds on all the things we've already spent this season discussing. Everything has been set up for Buddie canon in season 7 and it seems Marisol is part of helping us get there so if i were you (that means any of you) I would sit back and enjoy the storytelling because it all has a point and has been done with the intention of giving us Buddie - we made it through an entire season of Taylor Kelly and she gave us plenty of Buck growth in the middle of a slow and torturous spiral, so we can deal with a few episodes of Marisol who is going to help Eddie figure out that he isn't actually lonely because he already has what he's looking for!
If you choose to not learn how to read what a show is doing, and also come into peoples inboxes (who are actually doing a huge amount to help you read that information that the show is giving you by interpreting and discussing it) and behave negatively then I and others cannot help you because you've already chosen negativity and doom and gloom. I fully expect to have my inbox flooded with negativity, poor takes and dissatisfaction (and probably a fair amount of nastiness as well) after the episode tonight simply because the show had the audacity to have Eddie interact with someone who isn't Buck and is female - they will all be blocked and deleted - I'm over trying to explain to people who clearly don't actually read and think about all the things myself and so many others put out and I don't have the time to deal with it - I just want to enjoy my weewoo show and have fun with people on tumblr as we actually look at what we've been given in canon for all our firefam. So if you want to keep seeing what I post and my costume metas my advice is think before you type and press send on a message coming towards my inbox. I'm all for open discussion and I have lots of conversations with people who see things differently to me - but we are able to do it in a grown up and mature way, I don't pop into their inboxes and spew nastiness and hateful rhetoric.
This wasn't specifically aimed at you 5 nonnies I'm just using the opportunity to make people aware of how they will be treated if they try anything!
This got so very long 😳😳😳 soI'm ending here and I hope it all makes sense!
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