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#ALSO the way theyre both so adamant they want to die single at the beginning and how quickly that gets turned on a head
transasahi · 3 years
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ahem.
much ado about nothing lawlight au
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shotbyafool · 4 years
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ok so people always rec a little life as a modern gay book and its like how come the only stories that are popular are about gay people who die that book was so depressing and then we just get Nothing at the end like I suffered and for what???? disappointing and its long as hell
i think my main problem w/ it, which I realized quite a bit too late (~600 pages in) is that a lot of the suffering feels gratuitous or perhaps unrealistic to me, like why must Jude suffer and suffer and suffer! it mostly felt reasonable until Caleb and then the conclusion with Willem, because those feel like things out of Jude’s control. why is this man made to be in pain, constantly! and I suppose the novel seeks to claim that people who have bad beginnings struggle to accept goodness later in life, but these two points do not feel connected to that thesis because those situations are so frustratingly random. like even learning about Jude’s past I just cannot help but think: why did everyone in his childhood who met him hate him or want him to be in pain? what is the likelihood of that? what are the chances that the one person who cares for him in his youth dies, too? like all these illnesses and accidents and single mistakes pile up which makes me hesitant to suspend my disbelief. i cannot suspend for this long!
on your point, like... i was so happy with the beginning of their relationship because as a reader i am sitting there being like: are these two people going to do something about that unspoken tension in their friendship? (i thought i had hallucinated it at the beginning, but then i was vindicated). i guess i got a little disappointed by the whole “he’s not actually gay, he just loves Jude” situation so i like... like YES here we have gay representation but these characters kind of refuse to accept their identity as gay 
(I understand for Jude it’s more complex than Willem but o what I would’ve done for Willem to just insist that he is at least not heterosexual. i quite liked how he refused to take up the title as some “gay actor”, refused to speak at events as an LGBT speaker and all that, but his narrative seems to even scoff at the idea that he might actually be gay which feels... feels... well i don’t know, not right?)
i guess overall i am ok with SUFFERING but not suffering that feels like it has no reason. but mostly to your point i am confused as to why people would recommend this as a gay book, frankly, because the two men are ADAMANT that they are not gay and while their relationship so so touching and sweet and Willem Listening to Jude Tell a Story is really doing something to me right now, it’s not really... not really gay representation at all? it’s so peculiar because that feels weird to say but like, i did not pick up this book expecting gay representation (in fact i DID NOT THINK anything would happen there and was so pleasantly surprised to see that it did). i do not think anyone should pick up this book expecting gay representation. like there are two people... who end up in a relationship... and theyre both men... but... idk, this book doesn’t try to be representation and it feels false to claim that it is? and also why would you WANT to claim it as representation it’s so dreadful—not the relationship itself but the whole situation. 
i also do not kno anything about this book tho. like its perception and whatnot. i guess i am shocked that people talk about this book that way because to me it feels more like... i’m not sure... a hopeless odyssey sort of thing? like The Goldfinch but more dreadful and longer and of a whole life, not just some of it?
also... poor JB and Harold :(
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