#Anger and Forgiveness

[philosophybits]

People are adept rationalizers, so insecure people seeking control are good at coming up with a rational account of what the other person has done wrong.

Martha Nussbaum, Anger and Forgiveness

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[philosophybitmaps]

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[cryptcatz]

question: do ppl ACTUALLY say things they don’t mean when they’re angry? or is that just an excuse after letting something true slip? i wouldn’t ever say something i don’t mean in anger, so the concept confuses me.

but something was said to me that is bothering me, though apparently was said in an argument and wasn’t meant. but i don’t rlly believe it wasn’t like, deep down true thoughts/feelings??? anyone have any insight? anyone say things they don’t mean in anger?

EDIT: this was a hastily worded post that i didn’t expect to get notes. this is a genuine question asked in good faith that i got a lot of amazing answers to!

also re: the many ppl saying “OP is lying about not saying things they don’t mean in anger because everyone does it”— i genuinely have never done that. if i say something mean while angry, i meant it. that’s literally why i asked this question and why the concept confuses me, because i wouldn’t do something like that so i wanted perspective from people who do it. idk why y’all can’t believe that lmao not everyone is as prone to anger and outbursts

#i know im asking The Autism Website but lol will tag autism stuff cuz i think my confusion is related. idk #autism #autistic #actuallyautistic #autistic community #autistic problems #autistic life #autism problems #neurodivergence #neurodiversesquad #personal #btw i do wanna note that this post is abt an abusive person tho #not everyone who does this is abusive! but in my specific case yes #just a warning cuz some stuff being said to me can be a lil uncomfy when saying i should forgive them #i HAVE. MANY times. too many #the anger post #< if you wanna hear more of my thoughts on this #and others thoughts

[your-turn-to-role]

moment of appreciation again for what is possibly my favourite later game percy quote that everyone always forgets about

(said to vex, of course)

#another thing tlovm hasn't touched on yet that i hope they do (bc next season would be a great place for it) - #both percy and vex struggle so much with anger issues and holding grudges #and the reason they work so well together is because literally a few minutes before their first kiss #they make a commitment to helping each other learn how to forgive even when it's hard - because that's the only way to grow #percy had orthax and vex had saundor both who fed on those impulses and tried to turn them into their worst selves #and they both could very easily have fallen to that! but they don't want to. so they're going to keep each other on the right track #and this is really the pinnacle of it #percy being able to recognise when he really wants to hurt someone and going hmm nope vex seems to be objective here im gonna listen to vex #cr1 #c1e99 #percy de rolo #vex'ahlia #perc'ahlia #cr thoughts

[peachymaryobrien]

Was it so hard to do all of this amazing promo that is happening with Percy Jackson cast now for Lockwood&Co?? Silly interviews, watch parties, photoshoots... don't get me wrong, I love both so much, but I'm so bitter. It's unfair.

#never forgive never forget never move on #it's no anger at this point it's just disappointment #save lockwood & co #lockwood and co #save lockwood and co #locknation #lockwood & co #anthony lockwood #lucy carlyle #george karim #locklyle #jonathan stroud #lockwood and co netflix #percy jackson and the olympians

[dovewingkinnie]

im listening to old fnaf songs again and just got reminded that i never really expressed my opinion about the fnaf movie because i stopped doing fnaf content so here is my full opinion where the fuck was phone guy. like im so serious right now, where was he. words cant describe how disappointed i was that he wasn't in the opening of the movie saying 'hello hello' like what were they thinking they can ruin the original trilogy of the games, they can ruin purple guy, they can ruin everything that fnaf was, but they cant fucking do this to phone guy 😭 dont give me excuses or reasons why he wasnt in the movie i do not care!!! there are no excuses for this!!!!! "oh but william was like the phone guy cause he had the phone and-" NO SHUT UP i wish i could've enjoyed the movie more, but im dead serious when i say phone guy not being in it killed the experience for me, they better redeem themselves by putting him in the second film i feel insane because no one else is talking about this as far as i've seen, where are my phone guy fans please tell me i'm not alone

#HE WAS EVERYTHING TO ME #IM NEVER FORGIVING THEM #sorry for the random fnaf post LMAO #my old rage just got activated for this series #i did actually mention the phone guy issue in a older post #but never really expressed my anger

[spillsways]

spillways really is THAT song for me. like the whole “fuck forgiveness let yourself be bitter and you’re allowed to feel that way AND it’s okay to be angry and even though you try to bury that shit deep inside of you and move on IT’S OKAY TO LET IT OUT and be PISSED” vibe of the song hits directly home. that shit really does just resonate so much with my trauma

#at least that’s how i interpret the song for myself #i could be wrong but idk #it hits me right in the mommy and daddy issues #bc i try so hard to be the bigger person even though they’ve hurt me and traumatized me in indescribable ways #and that anger and utter resentment will never leave my soul #but i will never ever forgive them #and i’m okay with that #bc fuck forgiving your abusers to ‘move on’ #i don’t play that game #sometimes you can’t forgive people for the things they’ve done #even your family #bayli rambles #the band ghost #ghost #spillways #papa emeritus iv #copia

[desultory-suggestions]

You can outgrow that behaviors from your past that you regret. You can change, you can go to therapy, work on yourself, and surround yourself with people who choose kindness and compassion. You can learn to express yourself through new means, instead of yelling or physical violence, you can learn to respond with thoughtful words and action. You are allowed to have space to change and become a new person. Don’t let your shame hold you back.

#self forgiveness #growing #change #maturing #self care #mental health #mental illness #anger issues #mentalheathawareness #anxiety #yelling #fighting #relationship issues #family abuse #familial abuse #family conflict

[mercymornsimpathizer]

fr tho i do think there’s this really interesting contrast where, on the one hand, john is literally in a 10,000 year long revenge quest against long dead billionaires. but when the sluts are duplicitous he’s really just like. cries in bed about it lol.

#voice in the back of my head: he did kill them tho. like that is also i thing he did #i dont care tho i forgive him xoxo #john gaius #jod #the locked tomb #tlt #etc etc etc #i just think its interesting how little anger he holds for cyth mercy augustine etc and we should dig in there a little maybe

[songjay-ay]

IM TIRED IM SO TIRED TELL ME WHY I SKIPPED THROUGH ALL OF THE DRAGONS RISING NEW SEASON JUST TO GET ONLY ANOTHER 30 SECONDS OF JAY SCREENTIME AND ALSO NO COLE & JAY REUNION TELL ME WHY I WAITED SO LONG FOR NOTHING SOMEBODY SEDATE ME STRIKE ME DOWN GOD THATS ALL I ASK ALSO COLE DIDNT EVEN GAF HE WAS JUST LIKE HUH I WONDER WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT GUY 🤔🤔 LIKE FUCK YOU MEAN THATS YOUR BESTF RIEND KYS anyway word up

#ninjago spoilers #ninjago dragons rising spoilers #dragons rising spoilers #the post dragons rising anger is getting to me forgive me #this isn’t a criticism of the season btw im just about to explode im so deprived #please jay screentime save me save me jay screentime save me #ninjago

[stoicmike]

Grudges are a terribly heavy burden to carry through your life. -- Michael Lipsey

#grudges #life #burdens #anger #resentment #forgiveness #letting go

[philosophybits]

Grief, and the helplessness it typically brings with it, are usually not well addressed by allowing anger to take the center of the stage. All too often, anger becomes an alluring substitute for grieving, promising agency and control when one’s real situation does not offer control… The way to deal with grief is just what one might expect: mourning and, eventually, constructive forward-looking action to repair and pursue one’s life.

Martha Nussbaum, Anger and Forgiveness

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[philosophybitmaps]

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[jasontoddenthusiastt]

The compelling thing about Jason as a character is that I never doubted that he cared about the world just because there weren’t panels of him being overly zealous about “restorative community care”

I’m not coming after anyone who wants to see that kind of stuff, but I do think seeking | that | as confirmation that Jason cares about the world is pretty narrow

#shoving an arc like that into his comics to “show he cares about people” #after having him repeatedly say things like “nothing I ever did was for good. it was all just selfish anger” in recent comics #would be the final nail in the “see! he's redeeming himself! he CAN be likable!” coffin (pathetic) #it's literally what his antis have been suggesting would make his character “so much better” #kelseethe #see also: “people would have a hard time knowing whether Jason loves them” #why did he gift Thomas' watch to Bruce all those years later + possibly even after utrh happened #why is he always silently forgiving the shitty treatment from his family almost like he wants to maintain some sort of relationship w/ them #as for “showing that he cares about the world” #the most obvious “evidence” is right there #why would he continue to fight tooth and nail to have a place in Gotham as a vigilante #both warding off and enduring harassment after harassment from Bruce while hearing the same message every time #“hey. you're doing this to yourself. you can make it all go away if you just do as I say and quit for good.” #“you'll even get to be my son again” #it’s not like he gets recognition/praise for doing what he does either unlike Bruce Dick or Tim #what could possibly be in it for him #wouldn't it be that much easier to “not give a crap about the world” on a beach in Capri instead of in the Gotham sewers every month #anyway Jason should decapitate rapists and poison more child traffickers and not cry about it five seconds after

[bonefall]

Is there a cat in cannon who got a good death who you think didn't deserve it? Especially if they committed crimes?

Tom the Wifebeater and his redemption death. No question. It's not even close.

Not only do I reject to the "redemption death" on the grounds of it being Tom the Wifebeater who is bullying others until his dying breath, even taunting Thunder about Turtle Tail is dead and the kits must be very torn up about it, but I reject "redemption through death" entirely. I don't like it in stories. It's a theme I deeply object to.

And again it's fucking wild that every time a character is a father, even if they are a wifebeater or a child abuser, the writers think that it bestows a glimmer of goodness into them which every abused child is forced to appreciate and cry about. Breezepelt, Thunder, Tallstar, Tom's children, all of them forced to reconcile and admit how much they wuv their papa.

Abusive dads in WC regularly get redemption deaths, too. Clear Sky dies saving his grandchild, Sandgorse died saving a rando in a tunnel, Tom the Wifebeater saving his daughter.

But Tom the Wifebeater is the worst example of it. Hands down.

#Though I will say it's not exactly a matter of a crime being 'too bad to come back from' #ANYONE can change. #But these ones DONT. #These fathers are *recontextualized* by their deaths and their victim is pushed into rethinking their anger towards them #IF they even had anger towards them at all. All of Tom's victims were too dead to have those feelings because DOTC hates women #And his children are destroyed when they learn that the guy they met once who kidnapped them and got their mom killed died #And that's why I generally hate redemption deaths. By their very nature they don't display what's so HARD about accountability #The changing of your behavior. Checking yourself. Admitting that your victims dont have to forgive you. #It's hard work! #It's painful sometimes! It's worth it but it's not always easy! #It's also its own reward. Your relationships improve. You feel better. You understand yourself. #but no. a redemption death is the end. You never really have to face what you did. #And I hate the way that lots of storytellers think it means it undoes the violence they did #IT does nothing. They're gone. The victims continue. #Where are my stories with RESENTMENT for that? How DARE you die for me?? How dare you run away from the hole you cut into my flesh??? #You think the end of you becomes the missing piece of me? #Awful. No thankz #Bone babble #Tom the Wifebeater #child abuse #cw child abuse #tw child abuse

[idiot-mushroom]

the angst be angsting today gents

#no i just had to get my anger out with this one #my aunt will smtimes not forgive my lil siblings over shit that she escalated and it is so annoying #so have this ig #ttnm au #ttnm #teenage turtle ninja mutants #my tmnt au #my tmnt iteration #tmnt au #tmnt iteration #tmnt leo #tmnt leonardo #tmnt splinter #comic #angst angst angst #angst #emotional neglect #emotional abuse #tw emotional abuse #emotional neglect tw #toxic family #toxic parents