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#Anti Daenerys stans
the-daily-dreamer · 2 months
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Thinking about how the writers at the end of GOT season 8 had Tyrion explicitly explain Dark!Dany in painstaking detail and her fans just said nah
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crimsonbastard · 16 days
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That's it. I've had it with these brain-dead takes
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Rightful Queen:
Firstly, what the fuck do you mean when you say Rightful? There's no "Rightful" monarch in ASOIAF. There are only the ones who are elected as per the laws in which the Realm Functions. So There's only Lawful Queen or Lawful King.
Daenerys: Wasn't the Rightful Queen by blood, but by conquest (mass murdering an entire city that surrendered), but even then, she had contenders to the Throne in the form of her nephew. Her family was deposed through rebellion and they were in exile.
The throne no longer belonged to her unless she forcefully claimed it back. After Robert's death, the crown goes to Stannis, the next in line, followed by Shireen, considering Robert's children aren't his. But since all the legitimate Baratheons died and Gendry wasn't legitimized yet, the Lannisters covertly took the crown by continuing to pose Cersei's children as true borns (the children atleast took after one of the parents, making the argument for their legitimacy somwhat strong, Unlike Rhaenyra).
Daenerys took Kingslanding by force, decimating the city and it's populace with Dragon Fire and seated herself on the Throne. So yes, she has become the Lawful Queen by right of Conquest, all that's left is to eliminate the equally Lawful Contender to the throne, it being Jon.
Rhaenyra: Despite Viserys i (who was the younger of the two candidates, but got elected over Rhaenys who was older than him) naming her as his heir after Aemma's and Baelon's death he never really prepares her to rule in the future. He doesn't teach her the ways of Politics, nor does he reinforce the line of succession. He instead puts his daughter's claim in jeaprody and remarries, and sires THREE LEGITIMATE SONS. As unfair as it sounds, Westeros follows Male Primogeniture, the very system that made Viserys i heir to the throne over Rhaenys. As long as Aegon ii, Aemond and Daeron lived, Rhaenyra would always have challengers to the Throne.
"Half-Blooded" Murderer named Aegon:
Funny how TB thinks just because someone's Half-Targ (half inbred), It automatically makes them less of a claimant to the throne. Paternity goes a long way in Westeros.
Aegon ii is the first born son of King Viserys ii Targaryen and Queen Alicent Hightower. He's the result of a legitimate marriage between two ancient and powerful houses. He was anointed by a Septon of the Faith, crowned with thousands as a witness. As shitty as his character is in the show, he's a more legitimate claimant to the throne compared to Rhaenyra and her illegitimate children.
Jon Snow (Aegon) being confirmed to be R+L=J in the show doesn't make him a "half-blood" by any chance. He's the Son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark. The show states that Rhaengar annulled his marriage with Elia Martell, making Jon a "legitimate" (as per TB) contender to the throne.
There's also the implication of the term "half-blooded" used in the post. Just because Jon and Aegon ii are half Targaruen doesn't make them less of a claimant. It also sheds light on the Targaryen Exceptionalism that TB drinks like kool-aid. Anyone who's non-targ or is half-targ and isn't on the Targaryen side is automatically treated as lesser.
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am-just-a-bait · 3 months
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Realistically, if a ship is so irrelevant and you're so sure it won't happen. You'll treat it how Jonsas treat the Sansan shippers. By mostly ignoring them.
Or u could be extra paranoid bc it's very plausible and obsess about it to the point u make parody blogs like Jonsa antis
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sasha-zoe7 · 2 months
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Whenever I come across a tiktok video justifying Daenerys' burning of king's landing, it makes me sick. And the comments.. oh my god.
It's always comments like;
"Daenerys did what she had to do"
"she did nothing wrong"
"King's landing was in need of a cleanse"
"as Queen it was her right"
"no one in king's landing is innocent".
It's been so many years and I still don't understand how some people can think like this... Especially with everything that's going on in the world.
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rise-my-angel · 2 months
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Really weird topic to bring up but have you seen the Robb/Daenerys shippers. They are hard core convince that Robb would become her loyal dog and give her the seven kingdoms. Like are we talking about the same Robb that fought for the North independence. I just find it kinda funny. Just wanted to know your opinion on this ship.
Robb and - thE DISRESPECT???? HELLO??
First of all, none of these people care about any character that isn't Dany. They literally just see Robb as loyal arm candy as much as they see Jon as her arm candy. Its pathetic. They aren't characters to them they are only accesories to Dany.
Second, DANY WOULD HAVE LINED ROBB UP RIGHT BESIDE THE TARLYS TO BURN ALIVE.
The show didnt go into detail, but part of why Dany I suspect, didn't take Jons claim as King in the North seriously is unironically because hes a bastard. Danys claim for the Iron Throne is depending on her highborn bloodright. Targaryeans already see themselves as superior people, and thus she definitely did not see Jon as a threat as much because to her, hes a bastard with a false claim to a Northern Kingdom she intends to force into subjegation anyways.
Robb though? Robb is a massive threat. Robb is Eddard Starks eldest trueborn son. He was the first King in the North since before her family invaded Westeros. He fought for Northern Independence tooth and nail. Robb would never bend the knee, its why he didn't have any treaty with Stannis despite their families close ties to each other. Stannis wanted Robb to bend the knee and so he refused. Robb would never give up Northern Independence. Never. Robb is also a charming man who is smart, a good battle commander and very well liked by the people and worshipped by his men. And he is a trueborn Stark.
Robb is a huge threat to her. Now so is Jon, but again, Dany does not consider Jons claim to be valid. Its why she doesn't mention Robb to him, shes trying to frame it like Jon has no right to rule. She could never say that to Robb, because he is the King the North the people chose after 300 years of forced subjegation.
Dany would absoutely consider Robb Stark her enemy, and Robb would hate her for the exact same reasons he hates the Lannisters. Robb would protect the North against her, and Dany would rather burn Robb alive because the North will never side with her as long as he lives.
WHY ARE JON AND ROBB NOTHING MORE THEN ARM CANDY TO DANY STANS I DONT GET IT
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sarahnourwriter · 1 year
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All I needed was a simple Google search to confirm that Daenerys Targaryen stans behave like a cult.
Telltale Signs of a Cult
• Extreme obsession with the group/leader, resulting in the exclusion of practical considerations (i.e. Daenerys's flaws as a leader, which stans conveniently ignore in favor of declaring she's worthy of the Iron Throne)
• Blurred lines between individual identity and group identity (i.e. those who make stanning Daenerys their entire personality, only interacting with those who are just as obsessed with her as they are)
• Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned, it's characterized as unwarranted persecution (i.e. declaring anyone who criticizes Daenerys is sexist, misogynistic, pro-slavery, or lacks reading comprehension)
• Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought (i.e. declaring the victory over the White Walkers was 100% thanks to Daenerys and her dragons, arguing that the people she caused to starve and suffer were actually helped by her)
• Belief that anyone outside group is at best a negative influence and at worse evil (i.e. dismissing or blocking anyone who doesn't worship the ground Daenerys walks on)
• Anything the group/leader does can be justified, no matter how harsh or harmful (i.e. "I stand by Daenerys," "Daenerys did nothing wrong," etc.)
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scorpion-flower · 1 year
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Finding a pro Rhaenyra blog: 😄😄😄😄
They're also pro Dany: 🤢🤢🤢🤢
Finding a pro Sansa blog: 😄😄😄😄
They're also team Green: 🤢🤢🤢🤢
Anyway, if you're both team black/pro Rhaenyra and pro Sansa/House Stark, feel free to like this, drop a comment or anything.
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mawofmeraxes · 1 year
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even tho I was and still am very much in support of dany dying the way she did, just watching drogon nudge her body and try to wake her up breaks me heart. and when he gently picks her body up and flies off with her I literally wanna cry
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the-daily-dreamer · 4 months
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I don’t understand why Targaryen fans are bullies to people who criticize their favorites (i.e. Dany and Rhaenyra). Why not engage in meaningful and respectful conversation if there is disagreement?
I assume in some cases it’s because they see disagreeing with them as an attack. In other cases I think that the fans are just interested in being rude and insulting. The greatest reason though, I think, is the belief they are morally better and righteous, and they’re defending some sort of moral high ground and cause.
In the end, their desires aren’t to learn other opinions or discuss. It’s to fight and either troll or defend what they believe is better.
I just hope people in this fandom will one day learn not to be so awful just because you disagree with an opinion. This is fiction. It’s supposed to be fun, not rude and bullying.
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crimsonbastard · 1 year
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A "Hot take" I came across in Instagram
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Remember kids. A Targaryen woman can demand your freshly mutilated child to be tortured just because he said the truth of her siring obvious bastards that weakens her claim to the throne which in results in your legitimate kids being favoured as candidates which in turn results in their lives being endangered.
A Targaryen woman can threaten the independence of your land, the independence that you've fought tooth and nail to reclaim just because she thought herself to be the "rightful heir" to a throne that no longer belonged to her as her family got deposed off of it. So she brings an army of savages who are infamous for r*ping and pillaging and taking women and children as slaves, a slave army and the medieval equivalent of three nukes to "reclaim" her throne. (Just call it conquest ffs)
And there's nothing that you can do about it. Raise any objection and you'll be the villain.
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katy-89 · 4 months
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asoiaf fandom when they talk about Daenerys and Rhaegar
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rise-my-angel · 6 days
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Jon is incredibly stoic and good at withholding showing any reactions on his face. Which makes the fact that he makes this expression while Dany is talking to him says a lot about how he actually feels about what she says at any given time.
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True love is when your boyfriend gives you this look 3 feet away from your fucking face when your on a rant about how your family was so much better when you had dragons to burn people alive with.
He hates her so much its actually amazing.
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sarahnourwriter · 1 year
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Well, look at that. I dared to express a negative opinion about Daenerys Targaryen and... this happened. This is pretty par for the course for interacting with Dany cultists. These people are not well. At all.
@brideoffires, seek help.
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scorpion-flower · 1 year
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I can't believe people believe that Rhaenyra is exactly like Dany 😂
Like, Rhaenyra was both cheated out of her crown and did so many things in order to avoid war.
Dany on the other hand, was horny for war 24/7. And your shitty father and brother losing the throne because there was a rebelion and they lost, is not the same as having your throne stolen.
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