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#Anyways I got mostly As but there were some Bs in there I'm not gonna lie!
matchbet-allofthetime · 8 months
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Something I've noticed is I prefer lurking, even in a fandom as wonderful and old as the TF fandom
Because y'all will shit on someone for any character
Getaway, for example. Is he inherently good after what he did to Tailgate? No.
Would y'all be all over him if he hadn't done that to tailgate? Yeah. You would.
Why do y'all excuse everything Megatron or Overlord or Starscream or whoever else has done but you don't excuse getaway too??
Because frankly, y'all excuse some mad heinous shit just to get an excuse to simp for popular ones like Megatron and overlord (who are two of the worst bots in the ENTIRE franchise. I love them both, but you know I'm right)
Like I'm not even gonna fight anyone on this, again, I mostly lurk
But this just pisses me off
I don't excuse what getaway did to tailgate. But I don't excuse what any of my other favourites have done either.
Y'all really need to recognize that, with very few exceptions, media is simply meant to be enjoyed and for people to feel emotional in some way (good emotions, sad emotions, etc. That's the point of content dude, a story to enjoy)
Anyways I'm kinda sick of seeing BS about getaway when you will excuse the slaughter of billions or the abuse of countless characters by other characters
Another brilliant one- cyclonus treats tailgate like utter shit initially. Y'all excuse the shitty way he treated tailgate too, just because they're cute together and canon. Do I love them together? Yes! Do I think a lot of bots in the franchise become marginally less fucked up together? Absolutely! Am I also one of maybe three people I've ever seen talk about what cyclonus did, even briefly? Yeah. I am.
We've all got opinions, we do. That's the point of being different people sharing interests. But I find it ridiculous that so many of you excuse so much until it benefits you to clown on a character you just don't like. It even happens with Starscream and megatron. You hate megatron because he mistreats Starscream and mostly it's only mentioned by people who love Starscream, not people who love them both. But y'all either don't realize or care that they both beat the shit outta each other. A lot. In basically every continuity since G1. They were both pieces of shit. Love them fr though.
Rant over, but I'm sick of seeing shit and I have a Tumblr to freely say what I want now so. Feel free to beef with me, idrc.
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spilledmilkfkdies · 1 year
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I am sincerely asking you to rant under this ask about the Wizards 🥰 I would like to see it. -Jester
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Some of these things have been said before, some even by me, but I'm just gonna hGVHVhbb it all in here anyway-
The wizards were done DIRTY
And I'm not just saying that because favouritism, they were genuinely done dirty in more ways than one. I'm gonna try to avoid jumping from point to point and make it all cohesive and whatnot, but if it happens, it happens:
Their set up was good. Fairy hunting wizards who basically won and are the reason there is no magic on Earth anymore is neat.
Did there have to be a reason for that? Not really. But besides the messy 'if they thought Bloom was the last Earth fairy, why did they only come for her now?', it doesn't exactly harm anything either, at least it's not as egregious as some other things that were added over the course of the show imo-
Really, Earth basically had its own conflict kinda separate from the magical dimension, which is fine.
But this is more or less also where the problem starts? See, the conflict by itself is so very interesting and filled with potential, yet we don't get to hear a lot about it. Which honestly harms the season as a whole, but definitely the wizards as characters and villains. For when the exposition was scraped from the funky season lore blender, the majority of their motivation seems to have been left behind, stuck to the inside of the blender. And that is not good.
If we take a step back and look at the things we've been told- Not shown. Told- It seems to be a rough mix of them wanting to control nature, rule the planet, those things- But? Why? And?? Not really?
I think 'why' as a question speaks for itself, like what would make them try to achieve those rough yet basic goals. I don't feel like those goals are even what they were doing though lowkey? Because yeah, it's not 100% clear how much time has passed between them locking away the Earth fairies and them coming after Roxy, and you could argue that they were too caught up with the hunt to ever get to ruling the planet- But all of that aside. They're really just not. Ruling the planet. They are hanging out. Good for them but huh.
Y'know it's also interesting how, after mostly achieving the 'no more Earth fairies' part of their ''plan''- What, realistically, kept them from continuing their hunt on different planets? Was it Roxy? Would they have kept going after that? Would they even be able to?
Because when Bloom gets sucked into the portal and it doesn't work, Ogron tells the other wizards that "It's the universe spirits, the Circle has rejected her." Sir? The what? These are NEVER brought up again, and some might consider that basic first episode bs and it was simply written out- But in terms of reasoning why they only go after Earth fairies, it's more or less all we got. So is it safe to say there is some sort of entity connected to the Circle that rejects certain fairies? Then why would their fairy magic immunity cover fairies as a whole? Or is that not connected in any way for whatever reason?
It sucks because the scenario of the wizards not being able to drain any fairy that isn't from Earth, as well as the one where it's a conscious decision because their conflict is with Earth fairies and not anyone else, are good?? You could do stuff with either?? If the Circle does have an entity that limits them, does that mean they got their task from someone else? If the fairies of Earth are their only enemies, what's the reason for that? If the show wasn't so horrified by the idea of fleshing out the wizards as villains specifically, we could've seen more of that side of the Earth fairies that was ever so shyly hinted at when they got mad at humanity for ''abandoning them''. So really, a better season overall- But I digress.
Can we also acknowledge how there are no proper interactions between the wizards and the major fairies?? Like you can't just say "She hates us!!" then have the most normal conversation I've ever seen right after pls- Y'all have HISTORY. SHOW US. One little fight with a possessed Roxy does not count.
Moving on to the wizards as characters, in terms of personality and dynamic with each other- As much as I want to disagree with the pretty common take of them being bland and forgettable, there's a reason I've seen maybe 40 different character interpretations for each of them, and rarely having a moment of 'hey, that doesn't fit at all'. Because there is just so much room to add stuff. Pretty significant stuff. That you can just give them. And it would work. Which is fun, but I don't think it's a good sign per se.
Funnily enough!! Someone who doesn't seem to be good at doing this is Rainbow themselves!!
I cannot say with full certainty when some of these things were written, maybe they were made as the characters were created, I don't know- What I can say however, is that it was released separately from the show and some of it simply does not work. Whether it was sadly forgotten about during the writing of the season, or it was created afterwards in an attempt to add some characterization, not all of it clicks. It's a shame watching some of this stuff be reduced to fun facts that nobody who doesn't already somewhat care for the wizards would ever go looking for, when it should've just been in the season itself to begin with.
Can I also just mention how I find it funny that they took one of the few things people generally seem to like about the wizards as a group, that being how they really seem to care about each other, and decided to just write over that? Lmao?? Like you though they were friends? Wrong <3 Ogron is using them <3 And Duman hates Gantlos and Anagan so they decided to just hate him back <3
Anyway, I really would have liked some solid personality when it mattered most, but asking that when they were written to suddenly not care about the death of one of their own, and were referred to as 'Ogron and his men' so often that people don't know/want to know the other wizards' names, it's probably too big of an ask. But this ties in with the motivation point-
I want to know who they are!! Why are they hunting fairies!! What are their thoughts about the past!! Which major fairy did they struggle with most when in battle!! Why do they keep hiding in the smelliest places when Duman has sensitive animal senses!! Last one I'm extra curious about tbh, it feels cruel.
Idk how to smoothly transition to this point, I'm sleepy and not sure where to put it- But why do the wizards fight so poorly? For people with as much experience as them, of course. That's like one of the few things we are told about them all the time, they're supposed to be experienced. They got foiled by an actual dog btw. It's so obvious the Winx were written to be weaker at the start of season 4, like the issue was with them and it was bad. I know it's probably hard to make any enemy feel like a proper threat after the delicious meal that was Valtor, but surely there's a better way to do it than this? Insert situational transformation point, kinda-
Do not let their experience be a lie, is what I'm trying to say. You did it in the show, you did it in the comics, you did it in the games- Stop it. You want 4 successful war lords that have been around each other long enough to work well as a team and have become a no no topic on other planets because of how much of a threat they are? It sounded like that's what you wanted. So why didn't you commit? Cowards? Is that what you are? Are you cowards?
I'm not sure if I said everything I wanted to say but this ask has been awaiting an answer for a good while and I'm very sleepy. If I think of anything else or suddenly remember stuff I'll throw it somewhere mwah <3
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mythicamagic · 2 years
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i totally agree on the key maiden plot being bs!! it absolutely ruined dante's route for me :/
now i'm wondering about your opinion on orlok? bc i personally couldn't really see how his route was supposed to be romantic. and oh man that bad end left an impression... but i also found the good end unsettling, somehow.
anyways, have a good day/ night <3
I feel bad for Orlok as a character, I think if the writing for him was better he could’ve been okay, but as it is he got the shaft a lot. They made him very sympathetic, what with his backstory and upbringing, but his father is never held accountable and is even kinda framed as a good guy? No thanks bruh, because of you, Orlok thinks it's okay to go through life eating only bread and drinking water - basically having crumbs for life. Boy is malnourished on both love and food. Mostly I just want nice things for him but I did personally find him a bit boring. He’s not as bad as the Falzones though, its just that cinnamon rolls aren’t my thing. And as a love interest? Gonna pass on that. Orlok felt like one of Lili’s missing children from the church orphanage. He just fits right in:
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She read him bedtime stories and tucked him in FFS, their whole deal was very mothering.  I have some issues with how Orlok sees Lili too, as if she’s some sort of flawless creature from the heavens. He’s not as bad as Henri on the judgey mc judgerson scale- the latter basically shaming Lili in the Finale whenever he sees her for hanging out with the Mafia (something she can't really help.) Still though Orlok said some stuff in the game that’s very…virtue guarding that I don’t vibe with. 
 Liliana is also extremely unlikable in Orlok’s route, as with most MCs she changes a bit based on who she’s with. Lili in Orloks route doubles down on the religious aspect of her character and is hella judgy. She calls the Lao Shu Heathens, much like how Orlok calls Yang the Devil (lol) and while yes, they’re not good people- I think them not believing in God should be the last thing on your priority list to point them out as ‘bad guys.’ Also the whole Luka thing was awful. Dying orphan is dying but OH WE MUST BAPTISE HIM. Yes because that’s what’s most important here.
While I’m here and on a rant, let me just say - I don’t like the portrayal of any of the mafia bosses in Orloks route too. It feels like a different writer handled them. Some people complain about Dante being OOC but I have less of a problem with him here, it tracks that he’d go unstable. Dude is very fragile and weak without Nicola and the memory of his dad’s killer getting unlocked makes him snap- reasons are given for it that we can follow.
Gil and Yang though? Nah they got screwed over here.
Gilbert in every other route is pretty amiable to the public. He’ll kill the innocent without hesitation but only if the circumstances call for it (i.e: Lili being Yang’s woman makes it okay for Gil to shoot her/ the boat incident where he sinks the ship and kills the human trafficking victims) Otherwise though, he’s a ‘for the people’ guy. He didn’t get his leadership through heritage (Dante) or by being strong (Yang) he got it because of his people skills, his charisma. In his route, he’s clearly got some interest in what’s going on with Lili but he protects her and takes in Luka largely because he cares about the citizens. What does he do in Orlok’s route? Well fuck all that stuff, Lili and Orlok interrupted his business deal!!! …Because they were fleeing for their lives from the Falzones and the Falzone’s were shooting loudly! So it’s all Orlok’s fault Gil's deal went south and now Gil must kill him! 
Yeah that…makes sense. 
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With Yang, I think a lot of people won’t notice how different his writing is. They’ll dismiss him as ‘well he’s Yang, he’s crazy.’ True, but Yang has certain things that make him tick. In his route and others, its established he values survival. He will do anything to get entertainment yes, but also survive- because he wants to keep playing. He wants to have fun. Yang specifically values Wisdom in his route, because wisdom = survival. He likes it when Lili cleverly fights back to survive. What does Yang do in Orlok’s route? He sets up this plan for everyone to chase Orlok and try to kill him, just because, and then fights Orlok- while saying:
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Like wow. Way to miss the point of his character. He’s also very a cartoony villain here.
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Seriously who tf is this guy. Why the hell would Yang care about that. 
I won’t touch on Orloks bad end because there's not much to say. It's your standard 'lets now horrifically torture these characters.' I hear some of the bad ends in 1926 go in that direction too.
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notebooknonbinary · 1 year
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Tagged by the v supercool @bylertruther thank u☺️ (sorry this took me a hot minute, tumblr wouldn't let me do bullet points on mobile)
Tagging: anyone who wants to do it!! Mutuals and followers please feel free I’d love to see!!
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Rules: Post the names of all the files in your WIP folder regardless of how non-descriptive or ridiculous. Let people send you an ask with the title that most intrigues them and then post a little snippet of it or tell them something about it! And then tag as many people as you have wips. I have deemed that this isn’t just for writing either. Sketch titles? Comics? Dnd campaigns? If you have an unfinished project, it counts!
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Haaaha so, the problem is…unless there’s enough fic for me to justify a separate doc to myself, half my WIPs are under shit like [fandom] stuffff or, worse, Untitled Document. On the other hand, some stuff I get optimistic and title properly. My big problem is, I'm pretty okay at ideas--but V terrible at follow through. So um Ymmv
Anyway im gonna base this on whether there’s even a 1% chance I’ll come back to the WIPs for even a second bc otherwise we’d be here all day, I got stuff from 2011 in my docs and I’d literally rather dunk myself in a pool of hot oil than touch those (I haven’t gotten around to deleting them yet shut)
The WIPs I’m Currently Working On:
HS and College AU Part 1–All the Time in the World Draft 2 hey if anyone would like to beta for this btw i'm Big struggling w it atm lmaooo
HS and College AU Part 2: Ro—Name Redacted for Spoiler reasons
Stranger Things fic bits (has future stuff for^^^^)
Stranger things ideas idk (mostly headcanons and plot stuff that isn’t actually fic, and like research and stuff)
Stranger Things Post Series College AU Rough TL (above fic’s timeline^^)
ST react (BIG cringe and Never to be posted. Work on just for fun)
WIPs I Want and Need to Come Back to lmao:
Newsies fanfic (Draft Ver. 3) (my giant 18k baby that I probably will never get back to)
North to Alaska (Fo4)
This is Not a TT Story Chapter 6 (and 7, 8, and 9😭)***Esp! This one
Everything Else lmao:
Untitled Document (like five or six of these lmao)
Merlin stuffff
Atla
Mystmess fic????
Fma idea
ME Fo4 cover
i don’t know wtf this is let will be outwardly gay cowards (not as interesting as the title suggests lmao)
Five to Travel PJO/HoO/ToA
LiS2 Timetravel Alt Uni Timeline (Complete outline for the above fic rgjsoiwrj)
LiS2 xover w Coco? (Indulgent and never to be posted prob)
Life Is Strange, Tell Me Why fic idea?
TJM fic Chapter 10-?
GR F AUs
GO fic ideas
YOI fic ideas
bits and pieces of fic ideas for ha and JN (u do Not want to open this curiosity door very cringe😔)
Tarsus IV sequel(s) planner (I still kind of want to go back and write a sequel to this it was my baby and one of the only chapter fics I ever completed)
BMC DEH fic bits
dcmk story ideas (mostly just AUs where Ran is in the know bc f u gosho)
And my two most cringe but lovingly researched WIPs that will likely never be finished:
Cablepool Fix-it fic (Seriously Nate, you were fixing his brain and you didn't see the brainwashing wtaf) <- whole title 😌 this bs was 7k
helga foster story ongoing
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putellas14 · 2 years
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heya, friendzies.
no need to worry edgy mom, everything's fine just had a bit of a busy day.
soooo, that narnia story. i actually don't think it's stupid, it's mostly very cute. question is: why would someone mistake a book for recycling? just why?
and yes, yes we definitely tricked the poor woman into letting us out earlier. it was drama class, we have a tendency to turn even the most harmless of improv prompts into something sexual, she was not the biggest fan of any of it. it was a great time.
🏀, sis, i'm sorry cobibi's got you. as mom has told you, sex education is a great show to binge when you're stuck at home. or the haunting if you can deal with jump scares (mom apparently can't)
anyway, edgy mom's right. where are you lot? and more importantly, how are you? and of course, how are you, mom?
also @ that rude anon, i don't see any of your writing here, so, please, sit down.
also, also, i'm gonna be stage manager for the school play, guys :)
- 💍 anon jr
EEEEEEEEE. I'm so proud of you!! That's super exciting and I'm sure it'll be a ton of fun! Have we gotten past the copyright bs? Can she tell you what the play is going to be yet?
Re: the narnia recycling. There were boxes and newspapers and other things on that chair. So I don't think the person even realized the book was there.
Like I said, I had a bit of an annoying day. But that's fine. I needed the reminder that this is going to be different than the last time but still very much the same. Now though! I'm about to go meet some friends and have patio beers. It's a perfect 62 degrees and the leaves are changing and it's so pretty outside.
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evcndiaz · 2 years
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buddie fandom check-in!
Okay, guys, this season has been a wild ride and interesting ride, so before mid-season finale, it's time to do a little check-in to see how we're all feeling! But there's no reason we can't have a little fun with it, so we're going to do this like one of those quizzes in one of those girly teen magazines, because why not. So!
FANDOM POP QUIZ!
1) Do you no longer believe Buddie is going canon and find yourself seeking out "big blogs" to "reassure" you that they will?
A) No. I'm confident in my own reading of canon that I don't need to seek assurance B) Sometimes. I only seek assurance when it's hard for me to see how/why a development could be good for Buck/Eddie C) Yes, I need someone to reassure me that everything is going to be okay and that I haven't gotten invested in this ship for nothing
2) Do you find yourself frustrated with 9-1-1 to the point of causing you feelings of distress, anger, betrayal, frustration, sadness, etc?
A) No. It's just a show; I might not like all the choices they make but it's not a big deal in the long run B) Sometimes. Some of the choices made this season really frustrate me and effect my mood a little bit C) Yes. I don't like what they're doing to the characters, relationships, etc and it is disrupting my enjoyment of the show.
3) Have you publicly hated on (i.e. tweeted, commented on IG) an actor, writer, or director for the show because you didn't like the direction an episode took?
A) No. I recognize that they are people just trying to do their jobs to the best of their ability. B) Sometimes. I might make aggressive comments on my blog, but I've never directed them to anyone involved. C) Yes, I've publicly hated on an actor, writer, or director because they need to know what I think they're doing wrong.
4) Have you sent hate (anonymous or otherwise) to someone for shipping/not shipping your NOTP/OTP or tried to tell them their interpretation of canon is wrong?
A) No. Everyone has the right to ship whatever they want to ship. I stay in my lane, they stay in theirs. B) Sometimes, but only if they started it first. C) Yes, I've sent hate to someone for not shipping my OTP
5) Do you feel the need to make other people unhappy with the show or damage their excitement when you're unhappy with the show?
A) No. People are allowed to enjoy the show and be excited for things! Watching TV should be fun B) Sometimes. I don't always understand why people are excited and it makes me frustrated when I'm not. C) Yes. This show makes me upset and I want other people to feel the same way so I'm not the only one feeling embarrassed or hurt about being invested.
and finally...
6) Do you still enjoy watching 9-1-1?
A) Yes. It's my favorite/comfort show, and I love the characters and writing. B) Sometimes. This season has had high points and low points and I'm not sure how to feel at the moment. C) No. I don't like this season and the direction they are taking the characters, storylines, etc.
Okay! Time to tally everything up!
If you got mostly As...
Congratulations! You still have a healthy relationship with this show and this fandom! You don't allow yourself to take any plot or character developments too seriously -- even if you don't like some choices the show makes, you realize that there's nothing you can do about it, and are content to sit back and enjoy the ride. Give yourself a pat on the back!
If you got mostly Bs...
Pump the brakes, sweetheart! It's time for you to reevaluate your relationship with this show! You're on a slippery slope to becoming super miserable, and fandom should never be about immersing yourself in things that make you unhappy. Why did you fall in love with 9-1-1? Was it the characters? The plot? The drama? The found family? Reconnect with that reason and see if it reminds you why you love it so much!
If you got mostly Cs...
Uh oh, bestie! It's time for you to step back from the show and fandom for a bit! Keep in mind that there is nothing wrong with this! Our feelings about TV shows are always changing and there is no contract that says you have to remain invested in the show just because you were at one time. There are so many shows you haven't watched yet, including that one that's been on your watchlist forever. Maybe it's time to find a new favorite! There are so many amazing stories about there! And hey, there's nothing stopping you from coming back when you feel like you can enjoy it again.
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undertheknightwing · 2 years
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so, pros: I really liked Clark/Lois' storyline and who i'm guessing will be the villain(s) already got my interest. Anderson who's turning metahuman kids into weapons(?), I never trusted the d.o.d anyway and whoever the person is at the end in the mech suit. Can't wait to see who that is. Clark having weird visions and losing control of his powers I knew was gonna be super angst and I love me some good angst. I like John Henry and Natalie but having them live with the Kents so quickly is just eh to me mostly because Titans taught me that adding more characters into the main storyline that fast never ends well, hopefully they can avoid that. Also Teagan is gone so that's good and COACH CLARK IS BACK! that's nice because I thought that Clark would leave since Jordan doesn't play anymore but maybe he's sticking around just in case Jon does get powers.
onto the cons: Jordan and Jon felt so shoveled into the storyline that every time they were on screen I wondered why they were even in the episode since they didn't add anything to the story at all. It's not a surprise that Jon had nothing going on in the episode, but I wasn't expecting that with Jordan. And speaking of Jordan, now I'm far from a fan of his but damn I feel so bad for him. It seems like Sarah maybe cheated on him and umm?? Jordan sweetie if your gf cheated on you just because you both were separated for like what.. two - one month?? she's not the girl for you. And like Jon and Jordan, I don't think Lana and Kyle added anything. Their subplots are always boring.
random thought(that will hopefully change over the next few weeks): I expected Jon to be reduced to the jock character who just cares about girls when I saw the s2 trailer but seeing it on screen after we saw how his character was in s1 and what happened to him is just another level of bs. I see we're using the Titans three months time skip rule where the characters become a different person from what s1 set up to fit whatever situation they want to throw them in. I hope they actually do something with Jon this season that's not "oh no football is hard :(" or "I wanna get laid but my mean parents won't let me" because WOW what a waste of a great character. I did however laugh at Jon saying 'sus' that was the most in character he felt in the entire episode.
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zhansww · 3 years
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Hi. Thank you so much for replying. You gave me so much good information. I respect that you treat XZ and WY like people and not as fictional characters as I see so many people doing. I'm still reluctant to join this side of the fandom because from what I've seen so far, it's a mess. Tell me if I got this right: xfx= solo XZ fans who think WY and his team sabotaged XZ's career so he could be the top actor also hate cp fans because they support both XZ/WY. mtjj= solo WY fans.
Acknowledge that WY could be in love with XZ but think XZ doesn't care about him, hope WY moves on. They don't seem to like cp fans for not ruining XZ/WY's friendship? bjyx=cp fans. Some of them are supporters and, some of them are fetishizers. Want the solo fandoms to combine??? ( I still don't know what V/JK is) But is that the state of things?? Way more complicated than the CQL/MDZS fandom. I am enjoying your blog, your pinned post is the best introduction to the fandom imo. Are there any other analysis type blogs like yours that you could rec? Thank you. ( Sorry for the long ask)
oh my... smh your reluctance to join this part of the fandom makes you so endearing to me. If I wasn't as socially inept as I am, I'd ask you to be friends 🥺 Gonna put this all under a cut~
Let me start with the easiest thing to answer. V and Jk are two members from BTS whose relationship is shockingly real to me. I avoided writing their names or their cp name out cuz I didn't want my pinned post to show up in those searches. Unlike with ggdd, I never got the impression they'd be okay with speculations about them, though. So I don't ever feel the need to analyze or discuss about them. I just quietly believe in and support them.
You got xfx and mtjj right. Xfx is the official fan name for XZ's solo fans. Mtjj is not an official fan name, though, i.e. Yibo or his company never made it official, as far as I know. It stands for motojiejie which means motorcycle sisters, there's also mtgg = motorcycle brothers but you'll mostly see mtjj. Bxg is what ggdd's cp fans are called. It stands for BoXiaoGirls/Guys. It can also stand for baixiangguo which means "passion fruit". And there's a third meaning which I don't know but has something to do with turtles and which is why you're likely to see bxg refer to themselves as turtles. Bjyx is ggdd's main, fanmade cp name. It was coined back in April 2018, after XZ and WYB only just got confirmed as the actors who get to play WWX and LWJ. One of the rules in the bjyx supertopic on weibo is that you can't switch their "roles". And those were solely based on wang/xian but I suppose once fans realized that ggdd is actually real and their dynamic is vastly different from wang/xian, they came up with different cp names for different dynamics. There's also zsww and lsfy. (Sidenote; if I remember correctly, bjyx means “to make your special someone smile”. Zsww means “lord over a district/castle” and lsfy means “chain reaction”) And as far as I know, zsww fans are called little bandits and lsfy fans are called baby lotus. I apologize if me explaining this makes you feel weird in any way (cuz this fandom separation is dumb af) - I just wanna give you any info I have cuz you might come across some of this, at least. Anyway, the most common abbreviations you'll see; bxg = ggdd cp fans and bjyx = ggdd's cp name. There's also bjyxszd 博君一肖是真的 which means "bjyx is real" or bjyxszd 并肩于学山之巅 which means "side by side atop the snowy summit" and is a phrase that bxg use to hide the first phrase in plain sight, so to say.
I don't know what it's called but there's actually also a supertopic on weibo for XZ and WYB solo fans who believe that ggdd is real but are still only solo fans. So truthfully, you can't really generalize that. Some solo fans do believe in ggdd and are supportive but not necessarily openly. I (like to) think most solo fans are just dedicated to their idol and don't care about anything or anyone else and that's it. The rest, though... yeah, those are the obnoxious ones. Who made up ridiculous conspiracy theories about how Yibo and his company are responsible for what happened last February to gg. Or who make up theories about how XZ only got as successful as he is because he copied Yibo. They really want to believe that ggdd aren’t special to each other or that they even hate one another. So they come up with the dumbest bs to e.g. vilify XZ. Like, about a year ago, mtjj got mad at gg cuz they thought he, as dd's boyfriend, must have forced dd to sell one of his motorcycles. When Yibo uses kadian, they think he just does it to bait cp fans. But when XZ uses kadian, he's being the worst, most careless boyfriend and how tf could he put Yibo in danger like that. And yes, I've seen the same hateful mtjj spout such contradictory nonsense. It can be quite hilarious, ngl. I only follow decent solo stans so I truthfully don't know what the newest sh-t is that antis/solos have come up with.
When it comes to bxg... yes, there are a lot of supporters but also way too many who seem to be unable to separate ggdd from novel!wang/xian. They so badly want only bjyx - that dynamic - to be real that they constantly feel the need to "change reality" to make it happen by e.g. misgendering gg, drawing him smaller than dd and/or more feminine, making assumptions about him and his character that are simply untrue but fit their preferred dynamic so they keep spreading those assumptions. They way they view XZ is wrong and beyond disrespectful and yet, they call themselves fans. I genuinely hope you'll never even have to see any thing of the sort. I don't actually know anything about bxg, wanting to combine the solo fandoms xD I guess, ideally that would be desirable but I wonder if that's even possible.
Thank you so much for liking my pinned post... That and a lot of the posts that I linked in it are what I keep hoping may make more people believe in and support ggdd and it makes me so so glad that it could be of use to you! About recs, I could recommend you some twt accounts or on here, gif makers and fanartists that I like and follow but I don't follow any ggdd blogs that make a lot of text posts. And just to be clear, I don't make many text posts myself either. I stay away from rumors (unless they become more than that) and from stalker info and from all the reaching, too. You might find it interesting, I don't know, but me, I see no point, mulling over any and every minute connection between ggdd that may or may not even be real. It gets too invasive or ridiculous imo. I actually also stay away from all that recent behind the scenes footage of ggdd because I highly disapprove of the way it was acquired. I only comment on things about them that I consider reasonable and possibly noteworthy and that preferably come from the men themselves. And occasionally, I gush about how cute and perfect they are together. Sorry I can't be more helpful with this last question >.<
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jeffywittek2020 · 3 years
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Ah, so it was painful to watch. But at the same time I'm kinda proud of him, he had the courage to go on there and he took all the shit that came his way and owned up to stuff. I have to be honest and say, he was trying to talk his way out or around some stuff, which I don't like, but I feel like he's doing that to not incriminate his friends. And that's going to be his downfall, if he doesn't stop. He has to just say his last word, like Ethan said. He needs to read the article fully and make another video about this with the new perspective that he gained there, own up to it, say sorry, and he'll be good. Because to me, it was clear, when he was starting to trip over his words, it was because he was trying to explain himself and tell the truth without throwing his friends under the bus, which, sadly in this case, doesn't seem to be possible and in the end it made it worse for himself.
And that brings me to my next point, which is... Fuck Todd and David. They are watching this from the sidelines as Jeff is being chewed up online, called a rapist and pedophile and they don't even seem to care. He is still being loyal and trying to not throw them under the bus, but his "friends" are not returning the same energy. Especially Todd... Hope he enjoyed his fucking vacation.
And even bigger point - how do they (David and Todd) not feel guilty about what happened that night and think it's okay to ignore this kind of stuff. Especially when at the end of the article the girl who was assaulted said that all she really wants is for them to acknowledge and apologize for this. (not a direct quote, but what I remember from reading it few days ago, so correct me, please, if I was wrong) Where is their respect and compassion for this girl???
About the interview again... I think Jeff was just very nervous and flustered, and also scared about how this all affects his future. And I completely uderstand, I would be shitting my pants if I were in his position and would probably start crying after being grilled like that.
I'm supportive about Trisha and Ethan correcting and checking him on few things, but I don't really feel good about the fact that they wanted him to speak on his friends. Like he said himself, they have to speak for themselves. But in the end it all got better. Also, I was glad to see that Jeff and Trisha have come to terms with whatever kind of beef they had. It feels like this thing is coming to closure with Jeff and I'm content with still supporting him, because it is visible that he cares and he's learning from this.
At the end of the day, I'm sad that the focus has been taken away from the main problem here, which is Dom and getting justice for the girl. Instead this has become this whole "he said - she said" thing. I really hope something is coming for Dom, legally talking. Because otherwise he's not gonna come online and it won't affect him that much. He doesn't have an online career anyway, so nothing to lose, and if there's not any action taken legally, he can still get a job at McDonald's or something, so he would be fine. But I hope he won't be.
I'm so so sorry this is so long but I wanted to gather all my thoughts together (and they're still all over the place lmao) and also hear your opinion if you're up for it. Because I respect the way that you can look at things from different perspectives instead of blindly defending or hating on someone.
I hope you're doing well and are resting after your exams, even with all this going on. This is mentally exhausting, so if you need to step back, please do! Wishing you the best! <3
Okay and I just want to re- empathized something you said right away. A girl was SA and she deserves peace and justice.
I may be a fan of Jeff, but at the of the day this girl’s story deserves to be heard and I’m glad it is. What happened that night was not okay and I am disappointed Jeff played a role by being there , even a minor one at that.
I agree that I think Jeff should make one last statement. He should own up to his missteps and then as much as I don’t think it’s gonna be fun for anyone; he just has to ride the wave of hate. Like Ethan expressed, I think Jeff can come out on the other side of this and I really am rooting for him
As for Jeff seemingly protecting people I really don’t know what to think. I was talking to my friend about it and I think I truly don’t understand his position. Because I said to my friend is you pulled some BS ima call you out. Doesn’t mean that I don’t love you anymore. However, I would never have to publicly call out my friend for 100,000s of people to hear/see. And maybe people would argue Jeff choose that life by being “an influencer” but I’m not gonna act like I completely understand what position he is in.
Todd and David not speaking out this and frankly anyone else who was there but obviously some people are involved then other is just disrespectful. I haven’t read the article since it came out so I also really can’t remember but I think asking them for apology and them not even acknowledging the situation? Not okay
And again I will repeat if there is a reason your not commenting on it now; say that.
And l am def skipping around but I am glad Jeff went on the podcast. I don’t know if Jeff was watching the whole stream but the things they were saying, whether you agree with them or not, they were tearing him apart and frankly I was like holy shit and the fact that he was still willing to go on after all it says something about his character that he willing to be criticized and actually listen to it and hopefully he will take away some of the points they made to him.
I know it’s not time to be jovial but what fucking time line did we land ourselves in where Jeff and Trisha had a mostly civil conversation over zoom ? Never thought I would see the day.
Dom deserves jail.
I been trying so hard to form my opinion about all this from the day the article came out until now, but I really can’t. My brain is all over the place
And I’m not ready to stop supporting Jeff. I don’t think I will be posting on here like the way I was before for a bit, but at the end of the day I really do have so much love for him. I just want to see him learn and grow from this and I really think he can.
Thank you anon 💕 right back at you or anyone else reading this: you are not obligated to stay here or read these things if they are making you feel some type of way. Besides the fact I had exams, I was truly upset by all this and being on here or any other social media platform would have made it worst.
Wishing the best to you anon :) I hope you are having a great end of the weekend
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one-abuse-survivor · 3 years
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hi, it's the milky way again
it's been a while since i've dropped something in your mailbox
i've now finished the school year and the grades and reports are coming in tomorrow or the day after. i'm kinda scared of them because i know they dropped a lot since last year but i'm pretty sure i passed most if not all of my courses so i think it'll be fine.
i started working a summer job a week ago and i'll be working the next week too. it's mostly because i need the money so i can replace my broken phone but also because we had to do some kind of job/workplace experience thing because of our school (that was voluntary though because of covid). the job pays really well so i might also get a new binder with the money since the one i have now is falling apart. on the other hand, working 8 hours a day for five days straight has really taken all of my energy and i can't listen to music while working which makes it a lot harder. the last week i've mostly been coming home in the evening, maybe eating something and going straight to bed.
(also i got my period last thursday and i hate hate hate it so much it makes everything so much worse even without the dysphoria it's just so messy and annoying to deal with)
a week ago i finally jumped over my shadow and talked to my mom but it was a huge disappointment. i'm pretty sure i couldn't get my point across in a way she'd understand and she kinda just admitted not being able to help after saying a bunch of things that really hurt. i removed myself from the situation by "going to bed" aka going to my room, locking my door and crying myself to sleep. i was just really pissed off and talking to her was kinda my last resort for when i realized i couldn't help myself anymore.
anyway, the day after that was monday (when i started working) and me, running on barely any sleep because the night before was a disaster, had to somehow survive work and i'm pretty sure i ignored or snapped at a lot of people that day which i feel kinda bad for.
on wednesday after work i talked to my mom again because i was pissed off and couldn't let it sit. she said the same kind of bs she had used on sunday and we got nowhere, since then i've probably been a lot less friendly to her but i'm just not ready to give up so much energy for her.
her favorite arguments we're things like "but others have it a lot worse" (which is a mindset i've worked on getting away from for quite a while) (also my mom was referring only to my grades with this but little does she know that the only reason why my grades aren't dropping that badly is because no matter how bad i got mentally, i yeeted stuff like self-care before school because school had always been structured and mostly clear while life in general was just. not.)
other arguments she used were "just get off your phone and set a timer for 45 minutes and concentrate on what you wanna get done" and "just pull yourself together, it's not that hard" (those were about me saying that i struggle with starting tasks and getting shit done)
lastly she also said that my expectations are just way too high and that if i didn't expect only the best from myself (this was about grades too) i wouldn't get so disappointed if i didn't get that great grade i was hoping for. and like, she's not wrong but if you've only ever been good at one thing in your entire life and you were really good at it, then you'd just expect nothing but the best from yourself because you know reaching that isn't impossible.
and she ended it with "what do you expect me to do?" and "i can't help you" and i realized later that i just should've said that she should help me get someone that *can* help me, like a therapist or something.
anyway, i'm proud of myself for finding a summer job and finally talking to my mom and not so proud of my grades and the fact that i can't seem to get the point across to my mom
thank you for creating this safe space for people like us, i wish you a happier time than the one i'm having :')
milky way here :|
got the reports and grades and stuff yesterday and i'm just :| about it. like, yea i know i'm still somewhere at the top of the class and that i'm more than one and a half grades better than some others in my class but i'm still upset about my grade in maths for example but my parents laughed/chuckled at me when i was upset and that really hurt
and afterwards my mom said something along the lines of "yes you're allowed to be stressed but because of your good grades you don't have the right to complain about being stressed" which is absolute bs and i still don't understand how having good grades disqualifies one from complaining and i'm sure as hell not gonna ask her
i just wanna scream in her face but i'm pretty sure she'd slap me if i did that
i'm almost done with my summer job and since monday noon i had the chance to work in a different part of the factory which is a lot less uncomfy to be in because it has AC and since it's not in the lab itself, i don't have to wear a hair net, an overall, steel-toed boots and rubber gloves.
today i set myself a few goals for the summer break and for the next school year and i really hope i can get through with those because it'd make future-me extremely happy
have a great great time :D
and PS: since tumblr has been eating a lot of notifs lately i missed a lot of your posts and i tried filtering by the milky way anon tag but only one post showed up. i'm not sure what's up with that tho
Hi again! Don’t worry, I got you. Here’s a link to all the asks you’ve sent up to this point: first, second, third. All of them are tagged, but the tumblr search engine isn’t exactly known for its accuracy. I use the tumblr original post finder site for this stuff, but I just realised by looking for your asks that the site takes capital letters into account, so the ones that were tagged with a capital M in Milky weren’t showing. They all do show now that I changed the M to lowercase. So I’ll have to try to be more consistent with that from now on 😅
On to your asks. First off, congrats on finishing your course! And I really hope you can replace your phone and your binder :D sorry about getting your period, though, that really sucks :(
I think the conversation with your mom that Sunday is the one discussed on the third ask I linked. I'm really sorry the same thing happened on Wednesday. It's not your fault you can't get across to her—she's the one who should be open to helping you and offering possible (actual) solutions to the problems you're bringing up to her, and not you who should spell out every single thing she can do to help you. You're not being unclear to her—she's being obtuse and refusing to listen.
You're not meant to know how to just "pull yourself together", and you're absolutely right that your grades not dropping all the way doesn't mean you're not struggling, and you still deserve help so you don't have to jeopardise your mental health for your grades. And while she's right you don't deserve to be so hard on yourself or to expect perfection from yourself, that's also something that you deserve professional help with. Again, you're not meant to know how to just turn off those emotions and thought processes.
*hugs* sorry your math grade wasn't as high as you'd hoped. It's okay to be upset and disappointed by that, and I'm so sorry they laughed at you. You do have every right to express your emotions, and you're not being unfair to anyone else for being unhappy with your own grades. I often feel the same! I get really good grades (as I think I've already said), and I also often feel disappointed when a grade isn't as high as I'd hoped. There's nothing wrong with feeling that way. I'm really glad you know what your mom says is bs, because it really is. It's no wonder you feel like screaming in her face—she sounds incredibly frustrating, exhausting and invalidating to deal with. You deserve so much better than this 😔
I'm so glad you're proud of yourself! I'm really proud of you too for everything you've accomplished despite her being so unhelpful and invalidating, and I really hope you're enjoying the rest of your summer holidays and you can reach your goals! And if the occasion arises and you do end up using the "you can help me find someone who can help me" line, I hope it goes better. But if not, again, please know this is an issue of her refusing to listen, and not of you being unclear about what you need.
Sending a huge virtual hug ❤️
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thetwistedrope · 5 years
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Odd question: I used to be over here (for a long time) and moved over to pillowfort. There, there is a very small (50 or so people) community (think tumblr meets a forum) of Kemetics. No one talks or posts or discusses though, despite being part of this community. As someone who really helped create the one here, where conversation is everywhere, how can I do that there? Every time I post, I kind of feel like I'm talking to a wall. Please and thanks!
So the truth about engagement is that its the hardest thing to get, and a lot of factors come into play in terms of obtaining it.
To start, I always like to bring up a number that one of my old marketing managers used to mention, and that number is 2%. 2% is what you can expect your super-user group to be in any given online community. Which is a pretty low number when you get down to it. You’ve got about 12% to 23% for your avg. userbase, and the rest is mostly reading and lurking with nothing else.
I like to bring these up first because I think it sets a realistic expectation for what you can expect when going into any online venture. You can expect that if you get a couple dozen people, only a few of them is likely gonna be worth a damn. You’ll get a handful of avg users that comes in and does stuff every so often, and the rest will likely be silence. And when you look at the 50 people on pillowfort through this lens, it becomes pretty clear as to what might be causing the lack of engagement over there, which is to say, you just may not have enough people to round things out yet.
Another factor to consider about PF is that its not a very popular website. I’ve opened up a few side social media accts since the tumblr BS in Dec, and I’ve probably logged into them a handful of times. PF in particular is ugly and cumbersome to me. I flipped through the kemetic section there and went “yep, three posts” and never went back for a long time. And I wouldn’t be surprised if other people are gonna experience the same, which will be anothe hurdle you’ll have to work around when you’re moving things forward.
Now for actual solutions instead of me whinging about the difficulties and such.
First is that if you want ppl to get onto that platform, the best thing you can do is cross post. I used to cross post WP to FB. I cross post a lot of my tumblr stuff over onto FB and I’ll post relevant stuff over into discord as well. BBback when forums were a big deal, I’d also post things onto those, and I frequently mention social media goings on in my WP posts as well. Linking across several sites allows more people to see your content, and it is a reminder to actually log into that website and check stuff out. It gives them motivation to go into a foreign website and engage with you. Just make sure you don’t drown people in content, because that ccan turn ppl off.
This also works by letting people that you talk to on other platforms know that this PF thing is going on. The only reason I’m on MeWe, f’ex, is because Helms and Nehet told me about it. Otherwise, I”d never have joined.
From there, its largely about getting content up that is engaging. This works best if you’ve got people who are already there, but we all gotta start somewhere annd tumblr used to be dead af too lmao. So even if you’re not making a lot of headway, post anyways.
Don’t just post your content, link to what other people are doing. I find that including people’s work in what you’re doing (a in referencing someone’s post, linking to someones work, citing someone’s work as inspiration, etc.) can help get more eyes on what you’re talking about and doing. It also gets more ppl onto your social media platform.
You’ll also likely want to find things that others can respond to. I’ve learned the hard way that this can go hella south hella fast, bbut it’s always worth exploring and seeing what sorts of questions and post types get a response for you. Some people are more hanging out to look at cool things, others want to learn from academic quotes while others are looking to find people to discuss their practice with, etc. So be diverse until you get a feel for what works best on that platform.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that’s probably where I’d start???
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ragnarssons · 5 years
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How do you think Daenerys is going to react when she finds out Jon is a Targaryen and technically has a better claim ? Sorry you defend her well so I always come to you when I'm worried lol so many people on tumblr are saying she won't react well
I’m glad to know that I’m known as a fierce Dany defender because… that’s what I thrive to be, lol. So- about the whole Targ thing, the incest and all… really what I can say is I don’t know? Because really, I hate how “intertwined” Jon and Daenerys have become despite the obvious incest thing. Hence why I don’t ship them: with their chemistry and the whole lore behind them, were they not related, I’d ship that shit like 100%. I think it’ll be so difficult for them to “deal” with all this that I try not to think about it too much because I think they’re going to HURT a lot. I’m still able to recognize that the scripts, the scenes themselves and the actors, all state that Daenerys and Jon are in love at that point. Like, it’s not a lie, we know Jon isn’t the type of dude who sleeps with a woman for fun - or to fake an alliance *rolls eyes*. It “yiiiikes” me but it’s canon. It’s a very delicate situation.I think we have to look at the characters to kinda guess what is gonna happen. Jon has had a story about accepting who he was, a bastard, and someone who had a greater purpose than “the wars south”. Jon’s post-s5 journey has been about him claiming his place among his own family - the Starks, and still, his “greater cause” that no one else believes in. Hence why him allowing himself to fall in love with Daenerys is such a strong thing, because… well, he was supposed to have other priorities: he even states that in canon, to Davos. Davos says “I’ve seen you staring at her good heart” and Jon’s only response is “we don’t have time for that”. I really, 100% don’t see Jon learning that he’s Rhaegar Targaryen’s son and be like “well I guess the Throne is mine, then!” I don’t see him throwing that info at Daenerys to be like “I’m a better Targaryen than you!”. I think it’ll mostly affect Jon because he loves Daenerys, and he just found out that 1) they’re related (Kit himself said that Jon isn’t the type of man who would KNOWINGLY sleep with someone he’s related to) and 2) probably, that his heritage might threaten Daenerys’ claim to the Throne- and kinda shake her alliances (potentially) or her “security” as an Heir. Hence why I think Jon will NEVER come out officially as anything but “Ned Stark’s bastard”. Kinda like Ned, who kept the secret all his life, out of “duty” and love for someone else (Jon and Lyanna mostly). Jon is Jon Snow. You can see it among the fandom itself, NO ONE takes him as “Aegon Targaryen”. So I think he’ll remain Jon Snow and never claim anything more than that. And he already achieved A LOT for a bastard, he’s King in the North right now, ffs. Now of course I think he’ll tell Daenerys, but for different reasons than his claim.As for Daenerys, it’s hard to say what she thinks about incest. On the show, she has a very twisted relationship with Viserys, so that might not jolt good memories to her. But in the books, Daenerys is basically raised by her brother telling her that had she been born earlier, she would have married Rhaegar and Robert’s rebellion would have never happened (and that then, it’s her fault all their family died because she wasn’t born at the right time *rolls eyes* typical abusive bullshit ya kno). Hence, Daenerys was raised in a “well you would have married your own brother!” mentality, in the books. On the show, we’ve had Daenerys’ whole journey being about shaping her as a leader, a Queen, and a woman of her own. I don’t see Daenerys bending the knee to Jon and I don’t see Jon asking her to do that: they’re way beyond that. Daenerys swore to help Jon before he bent the knee, she was over this idea of “petty wars” for the throne and who has allegiance to who. She wanted Jon to accept Cersei’s deal at the Dragon Pit if it meant them having Cersei’s army to help them against the WW. Hence, Daenerys was ready to accept that Jon “came back” on his allegiance to her, for the greater good. I’m tired of people presenting Daenerys as a crazy despote who is STILL thinking about the Iron Throne. It’s at the bottom of her priorities right now: she’s LITERALLY riding north with all of her army, abandoning her stronghold of Dragonstone, to get to Winterfell and help people who owe her nothing. People whom she knows, won’t accept her right away. Daenerys had nothing to gain in trusting Jon at the beginning of s7: for all she knew (and tbh Tyrion vouching for Jon was a stupid move, because they hadn’t seen each others for 7 fucking years and stop pretending that there aren’t tons of GoT characters who literally switched alliances in that time), Jon could have been an ally to Cersei trying to have Daenerys shift her focus for Cersei to hit her. I mean? Yes we know these characters, but they didn’t know each others at the time. In the meantime, when she learnt more about Jon, Daenerys literally trusted Jon with everything: she sacrificed one of her dragons for him ffs. She rode North, risking her own life to save him, on nothing - at this point - but his words that Ice Zombies were a real thing. Daenerys’ trust in Jon is absolute, otherwise, again, why would she fall in love with him if it weren’t? I mean I could add another argument to that using the leaks that I’ve read but I’m not going to spoil it. All in all, people who pretend that Daenerys could turn on Jon like the second she learns that he’s Rhaegar’s son are… delusionals. And just blindly hate Daenerys or like to pretend that she’s “the Mad Queen” or whatever. It’s not Dany who made a vow to help him and ends up not sending any troops. *shrugs* She’s coming to Winterfell with her FULL FORCE: the army she spent YEARS to build, through horrible trials and difficulties and all that struggle. She could lose it all to help Jon and to fight for a cause that is way greater than the Iron Throne. Tbh I think the Iron Throne is as relevant as Cersei seems to be in the trailer: not at all. Anyway now I know Spring will eventually follow and if King’s Landing is still a thing, if Jon and Daenerys both survive, the question of the Iron Throne will still be a thing. Now I’m wondering if Daenerys’ vision in the House of the Undying didn’t represent what we already saw on s7: winter coming, Daenerys walking to claim her throne, but being “called” by another purpose. She steps away from the Throne and then walks North of the Wall. It’s basically what she did by the end of s7. The Snow in KL could be a symbol for Jon and not even the fact that the King’s Landing is gonna be destroyed by the Night King, who knows. I still think Daenerys has a stronger chance to end up on the Iron Throne than Jon. Personally I’m still on the side of believing that Daenerys will even be pregnant, which would mean that Jon and her wouldn’t even have some kind of “power struggle” over whose claim is stronger than whose. They’d do what is best for their child. And yeah I know the most memorable “incest child” was Joffrey, but let’s all remember, as Tyrion himself said, that Myrcella and Tommen were very good, nice and gentle children, even tho they were born of incest. I don’t know if I believe the marriage theory because as I said, I don’t know how Jon and Dany will react about the incest thing. Will Jon still marry Dany and still be with her even tho Kit said that it’s not Jon’s type? Idk. Maybe it’ll be an “impossible love” kind of thing. Maybe it’ll be a call-back to what Maester Aemon said: what do you choose between duty and the love of a woman? The feeling of a newborn in your arms? At the time, Jon believed Ned would choose duty, that it would be the honorable thing to do, soooo? Again, seeing from some leaks I’ve read that I won’t put into details, I think it’s a strong possibility to have Jon not being anywhere near power at the end of the show, but rather roaming North, leading what could be the “after Night’s Watch”, like with Tormund and people going North of the Wall, like perpetuating this idea of “Shield that Guards the Realms of Men”. It’s also a thing that could separate Jon and Daenerys, their very different ambitions: Jon stated several times that he could just live in a cave with Ygritte, with nothing but love and food and good company ya know. While Daenerys has rejected “good company” (Daario) for the Throne, already. I mean, yeah she wasn’t in love with Daario, but Daario did offer her a “simple relationship” and she refused it. Also to come back to her vision at the House of the Undying, we do see Daenerys refusing to live in a hut with a man she loves (Drogo… it’s presented as love in the show, so *shrugs*) and their son, because something else called out to her- her dragons, reality, her claim to the Throne. I’m rambling a lot, right? Anyway to be clear, I don’t think Daenerys is a “Targaryen demon” who will unleash her wrath upon Jon and try to kill him or destroy him when learning he’s HER BROTHER’S son. Like? Okay I know Dany never met Rhaegar, but she still tried to learn a lot about him - in the show’s canon. She’s named her dragon after Rhaegar. She loves him, and she’s in love with Jon. These things don’t just go away, and the characters won’t become sudden enemies circling around the Throne and making war to each other. I just roll my eyes at all this “targ bowl” / “dark!dany” bs. It won’t happen. Daenerys is better than that and I can’t wait for all these people to shut the freak up for good- when the show ends. Daenerys is painted as a hero on the show, and anyone not seeing it, is just trying to bend the story. Yes she’s had to make hard decisions, just like a lot of other characters have. She struggled with these decisions and had remorses about these decisions, like A GOOD PERSON would. I think Jon and Daenerys in their relationship are beyond the Throne. I don’t think Jon fell in love with Daenerys with the idea of “well I’ll become King if she wins!” and I don’t think Daenerys fell in love with Jon with the idea of “wow I’ll unite the North and the South by doing that!”. As the scripts and the characters point it out: it’s not the right time for it to happen, it’s not even right for it to happen because in fact they’re related (hence Bran’s voice over the sex scene), but it happened because… sometimes heart is stronger than duty. Hence, it mirroring Rhaegar and Lyanna’s marriage on the show: Rhaegar and Lyanna chose love over duty (even tho no comment about book!Rhaegar). They ended up being a tragic story. That’s a very strong theme in both Daenerys’ and Jon’s storylines. Duty vs Heart. I do think there’s a decent chance for them to choose love, even tho it would probably be “too good” of an ending for GoT- like “they lived happily ever after”: so maybe they’d turn tragic like Lyanna and Rhaegar, idk. So I’d say maybe they’ll choose duty and that will split them up? And if that’s the case, well we know from their storylines, that Dany’s duties will be as a Queen, while Jon’s always lied elsewhere, dealing with things Kings and Queens didn’t bother to take seriously. I’m sorry to all their fans, but I think Bran’s voice being over their most intimate “love confirmation” scene, just kinda foreshadows the fact that they won’t just be a fairytale story that will end all good. I think they have more chances to be tragic, but I don’t think they’ll be separated by their claims over the Throne. They won’t fight over the Throne. But tbh as much as I don’t see that happening, I also don’t see Jon and Dany just shrug the incest reveal away and keep on being lovebirds in denial. I think it’ll hit them in their intimacy as people and not as Heirs, is what I mean. *shrugs* A very long answer, sorry. I probably rambled a lot. I think people are jumping to conclusion: even tho he’s Rhaegar’s son, Jon has no relationship to him and no ambition to claim it as any “legitimacy” at ending up on the Throne. To me, Jon has never been a character wanting power like this- several characters said, “Jon Snow is no King” or “Jon Snow doesn’t want to be King” and these are important traits of his character that won’t disappear just because he has a new daddy who would have sat on the Iron Throne in another reality (also let’s remember that Rhaegar REFUSED his place as Heir to the Throne, and that he left Westeros with Lyanna *shrugs*). To me, Rhaegar, Jaime and Jon are very similar characters, in that they’re mostly Knights and don’t thrive for power. Rhaegar already refused power. Jaime also did as an Heir to Casterly Rock. Daenerys, Sansa and Cersei are the ones who are similar to each others, on the other hand. All three were raised to be Queens. All three imagined themselves as Queens. Anyway, that’s my take on that, I think the fact that only the “legacy characters” (Sam and Bran: Sam wanting to be a Maester, and Bran being the Three-Eyed Raven) know about Jon’s real heritage, is also a big clue: that it’s not about the story, but more about the legacy of what will survive after the Winter, and what will become “History”, kinda. I mean, if you think about it, after Robert died, Ned could have come out with his bastard son and say “well he’s Rhaegar Targaryen’s son!”, I mean? He would have had Howland Reed to back him up. But he didn’t, because I don’t think it’s meant to make Jon into a “player” for the Throne. And I think Sam and Bran are the most loyal, selfless characters, who will accept Jon’s decision if he decides not to “come out” officially as Rhaegar Targaryen’s son and Heir to the Iron Throne. Did I end up answering the question? Idk, man. Sorry about all of this, lol…
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Do you mind if I ask how you feel about J. K. Rowlings? You mentioned you don't like her personally, I'm just curious why :)
no i don’t mind although the last time I talked about this it sparked off a lot of debate so we’ll have to see how this goes.
This is gonna be long sorry about that…
Like I said I admire her very much as a writer and the Harry Potter books were a huge part of my childhood that I’ll always treasure but she’s done an awful lot of things that mean I just don’t feel I can support her anymore. And it’s mostly not problematic stuff within the text (they’re all very straight and very white but so are a lot of books) it’s problematic stuff outside of it. And while everyone is problematic to a degree my issue with Rowling is that she doesn’t listen to marginalised fans when they try and tell her she’s been hurtful, she blocks them and goes “la, la la la, i can’t hear you, i’m too perfect.” Which… don’t become an author if you can’t take any criticism. 
So first off she’s homophobic and transphobic.
1). There’s the Dumbledore thing. She lists him as being gay in the books on twitter but its not canon cause its never even hinted in the text. However, she does act like that’s proper representation and LGBT fans should adore her for it (wants the adoration without doing the work).
2). This has then got worse recently because the next Fantastic Beasts film is supposed to build on Dumbledore and Grindelwald when Grindelwald is coming to power. We know that supposedly Dumbledore was in love with Grindelwald as a kid and that’s why it takes him so long to bring Grindelwald down. So its massively relevant to this film’s plot then right?? And she’s already said he’s gay so it will be made canon now right?? Wrong. She’s stated she’s not doing anything to do with it at all. Because she loves getting fake ally points but hates actually doing anything.
(This is the part where someone tries to tell me something about how Hollywood won’t allow gay characters and its nothing to do with Rowling.. and I’m sorry but no. a). she writes the damn scripts for these films but chose not to put it in there b). she’s rich and powerful and popular enough that if she threatened to pull it if they didn’t do it right they’d listen. No way they’re going to lose the moneymaker that is the next Fantastic Beasts)
3). Everytime queer fans tried to bring this up, even very politely, she blocks them and accuses them of bullying. Is that really anyway to treat lifelong fans just because they raise an issue they’re worried about? Especially when its her books that helped teach a lot of us to speak up when we see something wrong.
4). The queerbaiting in Cursed Child. Now she didn’t write this one so she’s not directly involved I guess. I haven’t read Cursed Child so I can’t talk on it much but if you just google queerbaiting in Cursed Child you should be able to find out more.
5). She recently stated that the werewolves are a metaphor for the AIDs crisis. Now a). personally, I think there are certain narratives that belong to the people they happened to and the AIDs crisis would be one of them so she needs to get her dirty straight fingers the hell off of that. b). besides Lupin one of the main werewolves is Fenrir, a guy who literally just goes around biting children to turn them. That sounds massively like the stereotype from that era that gay men were just predators and paedophiles and were out to infect your kids.
6). She liked a bunch of tweets where terfs were saying vile things about trans women. She claims this was an accident but you tell me how easy it is to like multiple tweets on the same topic by accident (especially when they shouldn’t even come up on your feed unless you followed people with those views or searched for them). So yeah make of that one what you will but I’m adding transphobia to the list.
Next up we have racism and cultural appropriation. Now I’m white so I can’t talk about this in as much detail as others can and I apologise if I miss something! 
1). Cho Chang.. So she’s one of very very few non-white characters in the books and it’s patently obvious that Rowling didn’t do even the slightest bit of research on how to represent her (you can tell because both Cho and Chang are actually surnames so… what the fuck). 
2). Her narrative is incredibly stereotypical and harmful. Here’s a poem by Rachel Rostad that explains that much better than I ever could.
3). The Pavartis… they’re small side characters but their biggest moment is probably going to the Ball with Harry and Ron. Where they’re promptly ignored and sidelined. Because who cares about brown girls right?
4). Rowling keeps taking concepts like the thunderbirds to use in her world-building that Native American people have asked not to be used in fantasy because it’s of cultural importance to them. Ignoring that request is… well, cultural appropriation no matter how you look at it. 
Then there’s the abuse apologism… 
1). She allows Depp to be in her films despite what he’s done (abused his partner) and how many fans of expressed discomfort with that. Even if it was the studio pushing for that, she could have spoken out against it (something that’s at the core of her book's message - speak out when bad stuff happens) but instead she wrote some bs about being in full support of him. 
So yeah… I still love and always will love the Harry Potter books despite their flaws. My issue with JK Rowling isn’t in her writing itself but in the fact that she is unable to let it die. Every time someone tries to criticise her she makes up something to make herself look like a great ally when in reality she has no intention of caring for marginalised fans e.g. rather than accepting that her books have no gay characters and she should do better, she randomly decides Dumbledore is gay. 
Because of this, I can no longer feel comfortable supporting her and I won’t be going to see the new film or giving her any more of my money. It’s fanfiction and headcanons only for me! 
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hi! i'm the last anon that wrote that rlly long ask haha i just wanted to thank you for responding bc i was honestly a little afraid i'd gone too far, and reading your response reassured me it was fine and helped me understand what you were getting at. i think... seeing someone say my parents are verbally abusive (admittedly it's mostly my mom), is rlly different from subconsciously being aware of it. it kind of... opens my eyes a bit? i've also (1/4)
been in advanced programs for a while and i realize now that i’m one of those geniuses? the ones that rarely study and still manage top grades. and yet, my self esteem is so low i need my grades for validation, just like your ex friend there. and i too, compare myself to others frequently, though mostly to those who i know are smarter than me (and gosh this is gonna sound horrible) so i feel even worse and force myself to work harder. bc my mindset is even worse than yours. i’ve never had anything lower than a solid a, not even an a-. ppl always gush about how amazing that is but i still feel like i’ll never be worth anything: i won’t get into my dream colleges (bc hey i was rejected from my dream high school. sound familiar? yep this is lily here too scared to send this off anon) or get the high paying job i dream about. so i think what i’m rambling about isi’m a huge mess and i’d like some advice, comfort, anything you have to say i’ll appreciate (bc i’m a little starved for praise and i feel terrible asking this way oml) anyways i’m sorry this was so long i got a little carried away oops. thank you again for reading jul :)) hope you have a lovely day~
oh my god lily??? i wish you messaged me because this is literally heartbreaking
lots of the asian kids in my class go through the same thing. my ex best friend, now a good friend, confessed to me that he thinks he has a problem where he can’t stand not being the best (he’s literally the smartest kid in our school without trying) because his parents are always bloody pushing him without ever saying that they’re proud of him.
another kid got into the same school as me, but he his parents wanted him to get into a school that’s better than mine. his parents didn’t even congratulate him. they beat him.
this makes me SO MAD. it’s not your fault ok!!!! lots of parents “want the best for their kids” but end up taking it so far that it becomes verbal or physical abuse which ruins the minds of their kids. 
my parents do the same thing. they tell me that they want the best for me but then put me down and ruin my self esteem, not even about my grades, but about whether or not i’m a good person. it took my a long time to realize this was verbal abuse, too. i’m literally about to cry because i see this happen to so many people and you, of all people, do not deserve it.
but at the same time i’m really happy and tingly that you came to me and told me this!!! many people deal with this bs from our parents but they keep quiet and act like it’s okay. ITS NOT. i literally love you so much and you are NOT a failure. 
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omglr · 5 years
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dumb as bricks dude
You're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!
You both like feminism.
Stranger: hi
You: hi
Stranger: asl
You: 32 F
Stranger: m 22 canada
You: cool, i am also in canada
Stranger: Vancouver
You: Toronto
Stranger: cool
Stranger: Feminist?
You: yes
You: you?
Stranger: im a man so... DUH.. NO
You: kurt cobain was a feminist
Stranger: never knew that
Stranger: our retard PM is a feminist.
You: eh... is he though?
Stranger: claims to be but hes useless regardless
You: yeah
Stranger: so why are you a sexist?
You: lol
You: in what way?
Stranger: feminism is hatred of men
You: i like kurt cobain
Stranger: hes dead
You: yeah, he was good dude though
Stranger: yeah.. but feminist men are pathetic
You: mmmmeh
You: it kinda sounds like you're the one who is sexist?
Stranger: how so?
You: cause you think that feminism is about the hatred of men, and that men who are feminists aren't manly enough
Stranger: exactly
You: and that says something about how much you value women
Stranger: feminism is about female superiority and any man who supports it needs to grow a pair of balls and realize hes the superior one
Stranger: I dont value women.
You: yeah
You: so you are sexist
Stranger: and women dont value men so...
You: mmmm, that's also pretty obviously wrong
Stranger: sure
Stranger: lets say a woman has a boyfriend.
then she meets a better looking, stronger richer man whos showing interest in her, shes dumping the current BF for the new guy.
You: women rarely value sexist men, so maybe you just didn't recognize that your attitude was effecting how people treat you and creating a feedback loop
Stranger: LOL I avoid women now
You: yeah, maybe you need to get a hobby?
Stranger: I have hobbies
Stranger: I've had 3 girlfriends, and guess what
You: are you MTGOW now?
Stranger: yeah.
Stranger: its freedom
You: have you considered castration?
Stranger: why...
You: that's freedom from sexual needs
Stranger: I can jerk off
You: focus on playing the chello or whatever
Stranger: sure
Stranger: if women were not so shallow and heartless I wouldnt be MGTOW
You: i think that's the self fulfilling prophesy speaking
Stranger: well, im not good looking, im not 6'2 and I dont make $100K a year after taxes, im of no interest to a woman .
You: you're 22 though
Stranger: I know. and?
You: dudes still look like teenagers at that point
You: at like 35 you're probably gonna look pretty good
Stranger: not really, people have guess that im 30...
You: eh, i mean, it just seems like you are giving up too early and getting advice from other dudes who also gave up
Stranger: I gave up 3 years ago
You: you are gonna let a teenager tell you how to live?
Stranger: no
Stranger: I decide how I live
You: yeah but its never to late to change directions
Stranger: also, my dream job is bus driver, I cant say how it is at the TTC, but here, the pay is awesome, the benefits are great, the pension is fat, once im older and driving a bus women will probably want me, but not for me, for the perks that come from being with me, the fat pay checks, the family benefits etc
You: yeah that sounds good
You: go for it
Stranger: yeah, so, sorry girls, im not interested in you.
You: its ok not to be interested in girls
Stranger: im not gay
Stranger: im just not a betabux
You: it is a bit weird to think women are mostly interested in money though
Stranger: but its the truth
You: like, women are interested in feeling secure
Stranger: because god forbid she has to work to support herself
You: and couples who are financially insecure tend to have a hard time unless they work together
Stranger: ok
You: like most women have goals and shit they want to do with their lives, no body is really expecting to be a stay at home mom in this economy
Stranger: i know
Stranger: but they want a man to get the money to pay the bills while her money goes for fun stuff
You: i've never been in a relationship like that
Stranger: then you've never been married
You: i have been married
You: have you?
Stranger: FUCK NO
Stranger: why would I do that?
You: it just seems like you were speaking from some authority
Stranger: I know what a marriage is like
You: how?
Stranger: by listening to other men
Stranger: its bullshit, nothing but being controlled by a wife
You: lol, ok
You: those dudes probably shouldn't be married
Stranger: and she'll get bored and cheat sooner or later
You: did your parents get divorced?
Stranger: never married
You: where they partners?
You: were^
Stranger: they were dating.
Stranger: Anyway the 3 girlfriends i had were nothing but lying whores
You: and this was before you were 19?
Stranger: yeah
Stranger: your point?
You: teenagers are dipshits
Stranger: sure
You: and treat eachother terribly
Stranger: thats odd, I treated them fine, I guess im just smarter than they are
You: mmmm, maybe
Stranger: obviously
You: you sound pretty arrogant though
Stranger: oh well
Stranger: women need to learn how to respect men and how to treat a BF
You: ehhhhhh ok, what do men need to do?
Stranger: nothing, they are fine
You: how come their needs aren't being met then?
Stranger: because women dont value men
You: perhaps...
You: but maybe its because men need to learn how to communicate?
Stranger: nope
Stranger: woman -is mad-
man "are you ok"
woman- still mad- "im fine"
but men cant communicate... ok then
You: like the men who are married and being controlled by their wives and are expected to pay the bills and shit
Stranger: its either that or get divorced and pay alimony and child support
You: could have had conversations with their partners about responcibilities
Stranger: LOL a woman taking equal responsibility
You: eh, unpaid labour is often taken for granted by dudes
Stranger: aww, did she make dinner?
You: shrug, i don't know, I'm giving you a lot here
You: but its boring me,
Stranger: well women are boring
You: like, you can keep repeating sexist shit until you die alone and unloved
You: like, i don't care, really
Stranger: im not good looking, im not worth of love
You: dude your self esteem is bonkers
You: stop listening to men who tell you shit like that
Stranger: but they are right
You: stop listening to women who tell you shit like that
Stranger: but women know what women like
You: focus on your bus goal, read some fiction by diverse authors, take a fucking pottery class, stay off incel and mgtow message boards
Stranger: but MGTOW and Incel is the truth
Stranger: I am an incel
You: get your shit together, drop your shit attitude and stereotype nonsense, and change your stupid life
Stranger: nah
Stranger: I live the truth
You: next time i'm in vancouver I'm gonna slap the shit out of any busdrivers over 6 feet
Stranger: have fun judging their height when they are sitting, plus any new buses purchased after 2018 have a driver barrier
You: they all take smoke breaks
Stranger: no
You: ok, well, i'm not actually going to, i forgot what the point of that comment was
Stranger: lol
Stranger: I'll be too busy driving to have a relationship
You: maybe go see a dominatrix or something where the value exchange of sex for money is clear and you don't have to get all resentful about it
Stranger: nah, I like keeping my money
You: mmmm you ever go on rollercoasters?
Stranger: long ago
You: you ever go for a fancy dinner or a 3d movie?
Stranger: no and yes
You: back massage or dentist appointment?
Stranger: no
You: yeah, 22 and you haven't seen a dentist?
Stranger: well long ago
You: before you had to pay for it?
Stranger: yeah
You: you still got your wisdom teeth?
Stranger: nope
You: lol, lucky you have a mom to take care of your teeth
Stranger: yeah
Stranger: Anyway when im driving a bus I wont have time for dating
You: oh yeah?
Stranger: yah
Stranger: there is so much available OT to do so when will I have time to try (and fail) to get a girl
You: when you are walking your dog in the park
You: like a responsible adult
Stranger: I dont care for pets
You: ok, well, i've spent a lot of time here trying to problem solve your stupid shit, do you have any questions about feminism?
Stranger: why is feminism even needed?
You: to fight for the rights of the marginalized and prevent social regression
Stranger: sounds BS
You: meh
You: its pretty awesome honestly
Stranger: not its not
Stranger: women are not oppressed, they are just greedy and demanding
You: lol, but imagine their was a mgtow/incel support group for woman
Stranger: nope
You: except not shitty
Stranger: sure
Stranger: dating is shit
You: https://www.mmiwg-ffada.ca/
Stranger: what is that?
You: website for missing and murdered indigenous women and girls
Stranger: dont care
You: ok, so you don't care about the parts of society where women are oppressed
Stranger: nope
You: no wonder you didn'
You: t notice
Stranger: ever seen a homeless man?
You: yeah dude
Stranger: "oppressed" men
You: capitalism man and conservative pollitics man
Stranger: ok?
You: socialist feminism is about getting the needs of homeless men met
Stranger: nope
Stranger: socialism is bullshit
You: lol
You: but a workers union for bus drivers?
Stranger: yes
You: bs or no?
Stranger: nope
You: welcome to the labour movement
Stranger: socialism is bullshit.
You: its fuckin socialism
Stranger: "free" "free "free"
You: you dork
Stranger: "Socialism cause I dont want to work, I want it free, paid for by those who do work"
You: you don't actually know shit about it
Stranger: sure
Stranger: lets raise taxes for the rich so you dont have to pay for shit
You: mmmm, well that doesn't sound too bad
You: are you rich?
Stranger: nope
Stranger: you know why those people are rich?
You: exploiting the working class
Stranger: nope, working hard
You: no dude, they extract value from the work and pay them as little as possible
Stranger: well, get a new job, maybe a union job, they pay more
Stranger: stop being lazy
You: lol, dude, if you don't want your boss to exploit you and take 95% of the value created by you working your ass off, guess what helps with that?
You: fucking forming a union
You: fucking socialism
Stranger: yeah, but not socialist bullshit
Stranger: "boo hoo, I have to work hard boo hoo"
You: UNIONS ARE SOCIALIST
Stranger: nope
You: lol, ok
You: tell that to the guys when you are applying for your union job
Stranger: I will enjoy my union job
You: and you'll be an ignorant hipocrit
Stranger: I'll be richer than you simply by working.
You: lol,
You: jesus
Stranger: so stop being a crybaby and get a job
You: i have a job, and i'm in a union
You: but i know what i'm talking about
You: i'm not regurgitating capitalist bullshit
Stranger: no you dont, you seem to think those who work harder than you should pay for your stuff
You: lol dude
Stranger: what
You: i don't know where to start
You: you are just really thick
Stranger: nope, just smarter than you
You: ok, so remember how you had your mom pay for your dental care
Stranger: yeah
You: remember how your teeth are growing out of your skull
Stranger: yeah...
Stranger: get on with it idiot
You: and how if you had head trauma you could get free health care at a hospital
Stranger: GET ON WITH YOUR POINT IDIOT
You: but if you have a tooth problem you have you pay hundreds of dollars
Stranger: whats your fucking point moron
You: dentistry could be socialized like the rest of healthcare
You: and it would be better for society
Stranger: "boo hoo, I dont wanna pay when I have too, boo hoo
Stranger: "
Stranger: "make it free cause I dont wanna pay, wwwaaaaa"
You: and it wouldnt cost people much and it would imrpove the quality of life of lots of people
Stranger: sure
You: that's the kind of free shit socialists want
You: not Ipods
Stranger: sure
You: although, with the savings... you could buy an ipod
You: but then apple would also get taxed properly
Stranger: they want free college, higher taxes for those who work so social assistance rates can be raised for those who cant be bothered to work
You: and pay for dentistry....
Stranger: aww, did you have to pay a bill like an adult?
You: dude, you already said you have never paid a dentist bill in your life
Stranger: but did you
You: yeah I'm 32
Stranger: yeah but you act like a child
You: dude you don't even understand taxes
Stranger: i do
You: yeah, you are worried that your taxes which you pay for will be used for something usefull for society
Stranger: but I' be paying MORE taxes, I dont want that
You: and you are worried that people who make millions of dollars more than you are going to have to pay more
You: progressive taxation doesn't work like that
Stranger: well, they earned it why should they have to pay more?
You: because they have extracted that value from the world, and that's what taxes are, for taking care of the world
Stranger: sure
You: yeah
Stranger: im not intrested in your bs
You: lol
You: i mean, you're a piece of work buddy
Stranger: thanks
You: i mean, you've got a lot of growing up to do
Stranger: I could care less what a socialist loser thinks
Stranger: I worked for it, its fucking mine
You: lol
You: jesus, ok
You: lets start over
Stranger: you want it? work harder
You: "I worked for it, it's fucking mine"
Stranger: yeah
You: yeah
You: agreed
Stranger: so you want something? work harder and earn it, dont expect someone else to pay for it
You: you get hired for a job flipping burgers
Stranger: no thanks, I can do better than that
You: you work 9 hour shifts, and cook 300 burgers an hour
Stranger: is that your job?
You: you get paid, 12 dollars
You: no i'm an electrician
Stranger: then why do those shit jobs matter?
You: but this person gets paid 12 dollars for making 300 burgers sold for an average of $4 each
Stranger: your point is?
You: they process the food that made the company $1200
Stranger: ok and?
You: and got paid 1%
Stranger: your point is?
You: the $1200, I WORKED FOR IT, I PRODUCED IT, ITS FUCKING MINE
Stranger: nope
Stranger: you get paid $12 per hour worked, not per item cooked
You: yeah dude its the same shit, you are worried about the people who took 99% of the wealth from a shit job employee having to pay more taxes and give poor people dental care
Stranger: if they want to get paid more go get a higher skilled job than flipping burgers and salting fries
You: it can be a fucking hard job
You: like, seriously watch a fast food employee next time you are in one
You: they are always having to do shit
Stranger: I did, she was cute and bent over
You: yeah, you should have paid her for that
Stranger: nope
You: you stole a look
Stranger: paid her to pick up trash from the floor? I believe the company pays her for that
You: again, the wealthy will pay their employees as little as they legally can, and keep as much money as they can and pay as little taxes as they can
Stranger: oh
Stranger: well
Stranger: get a higher paying job?
You: and you think that these people are working harder
Stranger: there is no skill in burger flipping
You: when they are just working hard enough to exploit resources of other people and hoard wealth
Stranger: sure
You: so yeah, burger flipping is a job that is grueling and bullshit and annoying
Stranger: well, get a new one
You: but the metaphor is applicable to most jobs
Stranger: sure
You: you figure out how much the company is making off of you, and you realize it is a lot more than they are paying you and they should be respecting you a lot more for doing your job well
You: that's why unions are fucking awesome
You: because they can protect you from exploitation, get you better wages and services
You: and fight for you if you are wronged
Stranger: yeah, so those burger flippers can go get a new union job
You: the burger flippers can also start a union, but mcdonalds is pretty keen on union busting
Stranger: I've had to repeat my order to some of the morons working there and sometimes they still cant get it right, so why should they be paid more?
You: again, you don't have to focus on burgers,
You: like, shit man
Stranger: oh well
You: anyway, your bus job sounds cool and i hope it treats you well and you learn from your coworkers what the union is doing for you
Stranger: yeah
Stranger: because I have the high skill required to drive a bus, I will be paid more than a no skilled worker in a store or Mcdicks
You: i mean... some would try to say that driving a bus doesn't take much skill at all
Stranger: explain to me how to do a right turn while driving a bus,
You: like it's basically sitting on a couch
Stranger: sure.
You: i mean, what goes on a double mcRib, no L, ex P,
Stranger: dont know, dont care
You: yeah, dude people undervalue the labour of workers
Stranger: sure
Stranger: "duuurr I put cheese on a burger"
You: "I made 600 burgers today, and some shithead started screaming at me for getting onions when he asked for no ketchup"
Stranger: well, do your job right
You: lol, show some compassion and empathy in every aspect of your life
Stranger: nah
You: yeah, dude
Stranger: if they cant figure out what "no ketchup" is they are not too bright
You: i think you missed the part where the guy didn't ask for no onions
You: he only asked for no ketchup
Stranger: oh well I dont care
Stranger: get a better job
Stranger: I've seen quite a few downright useless fast food workers, so tell me why they are worth more than $12 an hour?
You: your anecdotal evidence is as flawed in observations of fast food employees as it is with women
Stranger: sure
You: you have no empathy and only think about yourself
You: you are short sighted, ignorant and arrogant
Stranger: I had to repeat my order of "2 double cheese burgers and 1 regular sized M&M Mcflurry " 3 times
Stranger: only to get slow service and an oreo Mcflurry
You: yeah dude, i had to repeat unions are socialism like 5 times and you still don't understand
Stranger: but unions are not socialism you fuckward
Stranger: if you want to get paid more EARN IT
You: fuckin' you want me to crack open wikipedia
Stranger: dont care
Stranger: I dont care what some socialist moron thinks
Stranger: burger flippers are skilless, so they get low paid
You: ok, but you understand the central theme though right?
Stranger: high skill= high pay
low skill = low pay
You: a burger flipper does a variety of tasks for 8 hours a day and gets paid 1% of the value they produce, or less
Stranger: burger flipper has no usefull skills
You: YOU EAT THE FOOD DIPSHIT
Stranger: and?
You: THEY MADE THE FOOD FOR YOU!
Stranger: making food isnt hard
You: YOU DIDN"T MAKE THE FOOD AND YOU GOT FOOD
Stranger: they are paid to make the food
Stranger: I bought the food
You: ok, so you paid a company 99% for them to exploit a worker tyo make you a burger
Stranger: yeah, so what
Stranger: why do you even care? its not your job
You: we move up, and look at the day shift managers, the night shift managers, they get paid quite a bit more than the employees but aren't working much harder
Stranger: managers are overpaid slackers
You: they might actually be working less hard
You: yeah, and above them, managers of the local franchises, and up ward and upward to a ceo who is perhaps having a meeting once a day? and getting paid how much more than their lowest employee
Stranger: oh well\
Stranger: I dont care about the useless burger flipper
You: again, its not burgers, its everthing
You: its you right now
You: you don't even have this kushy bus job
You: with union support
You: you are probably unemployed
Stranger: you realize their job is pretty much
cooking food
taking out trash
sweeping the floor,
stuff you do at home, its simple shit
Stranger: I have a union job
You: what is your job?
Stranger: loading trucks
You: and that takes how much skill?
Stranger: a fair amount
You: in what way?
Stranger: gotta load 4 trucks, sort it according to the load sort, keep up with the pace of freight coming to you
You: but anyone with muscles could do it?
Stranger: if your loading a company truck keep count of the number of stops, if its owner op dont count it
Stranger: muscles and a brain
You: ok
Stranger: harder work than burger flippers
You: i mean, I was gonna scrutinize it further to make the point that your job seems pretty simple but you have lots of insider knowledge about the challenges of the job to say otherwise
Stranger: exactly
You: it could be argued that it is an unskilled labour possition though
Stranger: harder job thus for higher pay
You: maybe, or a labour rights movement that had your back
Stranger: no the unskilled is unloading trailers, all it takes it watch your head, watch out for the guy your with and put the labels facing up onto the conveyor
Stranger: still not socialism you idiot
You: i mean, i don't need to argue that rain is wet
You: you can deny it if you want
Stranger: nah
You: you can even call me an idiot for saying the rain is wet
Stranger: your dumb enough to think the morons at fast food deserve higher pay so I cant take you seriously
You: but it only reflects on your arrogance
Stranger: sure
Stranger: "2 double cheese burgers and an M&M Mcflurry"
I had to repeat it 3 times and they still couldnt get the order right.
but you think they should be paid more?
You: i guess should have picked a better metaphor
You: you are really hung up on that eh?
Stranger: its an example to prove you wrong
Stranger: picking up an empty cup from the floor is so hard, oh poor girl
You: it proves nothing really
You: except that you hate poor people
Stranger: it proves they are not worth more than min wage
You: and that they deserve worse treatment than wealthy people
Stranger: no, they just need to work harder to get higher pay
Stranger: also whens the last time you were in any fast food place?
You: and that caring about the needs of the marginalized and downtrodden is outside of your wheelhouse, and that you should eat shit and die alone
You: simple as that
You: fuck off
You: and die
Stranger: lol guess what
You: mgtow to hell
Stranger: I used to be homeless
You: yeah, sounds made up
Stranger: well its not
Stranger: you see, I did what was needed to get off the street, finish school and get a job
You: and you have internalized all sorts of capitalist bullshit along the way
Stranger: so what
Stranger: hard work is all you need
Stranger: get a skill
You: lol
Stranger: why are bus drivers paid so much?
high skilled job
gotta deal with shitty people sometimes
You: you're still pretty thick
Stranger: also, since you dodged my question, most fast food workers are high schoolers anyway, so who cares if they make min wage, most of that money is just blown when they hang out with friends anyway
You: ok, but that's not actually true
You: most fast food employees are between 28 an 40
Stranger: odd. I was in Mcdonalds today, the oldest guy there looked 20
Stranger: hmm, then how come I've seen people from my old highschool working there? they were a grade or two below me as well...
You: cause of the neighborhood you live in doesn't represent the majority of fastfood service jobs?
Stranger: I've been to quite a few and its all highschool looking kids workin there
You: and so you know a lot of workers who are 18-20 but that doesn't actually mean that's the average
You: https://groundswell.org/fast-food-misconceptions/
Stranger: want higher pay? get hire skill
You: 40 percent of the workforce in the fast food industry is 25 or older, and the average fast-food worker is 29 years old.
Stranger: get a skill
Stranger: https://www.monster.com/career-advice/article/best-paid-job-skills
You: but also, tax the rich and give services to poor people
Stranger: so tax those who work hard and have skills to pay for things for people who are lazy and have no skill.
Stranger: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/these-10-skills-you-need-to-earn-higher-wages-may-surprise-you-2017-04-18
You: alright lazy brain, i gotta go to bed
You: got work in the morning
You: gotta put these skills to work
Stranger: get a skill to get higher pay
Stranger: dont want to flip burgers? get a skill
You: dude I'm an electrician
Stranger: exactly, so your paid more than a burger flipper cause your usefull
You: not everyone can do this work, we need a diversity of workers doing all sorts of shit
Stranger: there are plenty of skilled jobs
You: you're dumb as bricks but you are getting paid decent with your loading job
Stranger: yeah, because its skill
Stranger: and im not dumb as bricks.
You: i want a society that takes care of you even though personally I hope boxes crush your legs and a woman shits in your mouth
Stranger: lol
Stranger: see, your so bitter
Stranger: you cant accept that not everyone agrees with you and you freak out
You: yeah, its just cause you are 22, a bitter misogynist and unable to process new information
Stranger: I have processed it
Stranger: and its bullshit
Stranger: you dont get high pay for low skill
You: eh... your bs assessment skills are weeeeeek
Stranger: everyone knows that to get high pay you gotta work hard
Stranger: take from those who work to give to those who dont, your fucked in the head
You: aight duder
You: eat shitbricks
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