#Batman saves joker

[bluerosefox]

Over Tea

A sudden chill sweeps through Gotham, almost like Mr. Freeze had just attacked only thing was the man was currently locked away in Arkham, and was felt by all. And talked by all via word of mouth and on social media as well.

The clouds and smog that covered their dark city shifted and swirled, a rumble beginning deep inside them as the weather turned from smoggy to rain and thunder with no real warning. The strangest thing was the green glow that could be seen when thunder rumbled inside the gray clouds.

Then like a candle being blown out, the rumbling stopped, the rain ended, and the clouds parted all over Gotham.

For the first time in a while Gotham had a clear sky and it felt... it felt like something heavy had been lifted off the city.

It was this sudden shift and the all felt chill that had set off alerts for Batman and his family. Since early morning since the first change and shift happened he was in front of the Batcomputer trying to narrow down where it started.

After hours of searching with the help of Red Robin, Oracle and strangely enough Red Hood, they managed to narrow down where the odd power had been coming from.

Was still coming from, only very low.

The old and abandoned observatory tower.

-x-x-

"More ecto-tea Lady Gotham?" Danny asked, his hand waving towards the steaming pot nearby.

The woman smiled lightly, her dark painted lips curling up to show her sharp fangs for a moment before saying "No but thank you Young Kingling though I would like more cookies if you don't mind. Now where were we?"

Danny nodded towards her and signaled towards a maid skeleton ghost who walked forward with a tray of cookies. The maid swiftly placed a few more cookies on the spirit embodiment of Gotham plate before bowing and stepping away.

"We were just about to discuss the sentience of the Court of Owls." Danny said as he lightly tapped the large almost mountain of paperwork on the table they were sitting at, floating high above the floor as shooting stars and planets drifted around them. Many ghosts floated around as well, servants that had sworn their loyalty to the Young King, and were preparing things like snacks and drinks for two powerful beings in the room as they discussed business. Nearby doors and windows though were ghostly knights that stood tall and alert, making sure no interlopers interrupted the meeting taking place and ready to defend not only Lady Gotham but their King.

"Ah yes them." Lady Gotham grimaced as she took a drink of her ecto-tea. "That will take some time for us to discuss, they've been running around unchecked for to long and even with my limited abilities to hinder them has been less than ideal."

"You, Lady G, were deeply cursed for many, many years and I just broke most of it." Danny cut in quickly, he was not about to let this wonderful and powerful city spirit blame herself for something out of her hands "Due to said curse you couldn't do much so please don't go blaming yourself. Its mostly broken now, so you can freely start healing yourself and your city self now that jerk demon that cursed you is in Walker's prison for his crimes."

Lady Gotham grew silent for a moment, her dark eyes staring deeply at the young King but then warmly smiled, well as warm as she could seeing how she was Gotham itself. "You reminded me of my Knight, Young King, treating me like this. Not afraid to point out the truth and facts."

Danny gave a light laugh as he took a hold of one of the cookies on his plate and gave a bite "I'll take that as a compliment Lady Gotham. Now about those Court of Owls...."

#danny phantom #danny fenton #dp x dc #blue rambles #crossover #writing ideas #random idea #danny phantom dc #dpxdc #dcxdp #ghost king danny #Danny visited Gotham as part of his new kingly duties to discuss things #only to find the city spirit chained and cursed by a demon #he fought the demon and kicked its butt now that he's cleaning up Pariah Dark bad management #Lady Gotham been trying to save her city self for years but couldn't do much #Her Dark Knight and his bats and birds helped ease the pain #but the demon encouraged and influenced a lot of Batman's rogue's #The Joker is the one he's most proud of #Lady Gotham did her best to save her people from his influence #some listened others didn't #anyways Danny came to Gotham because he noticed a lot of papers for the city and well #again found the demon and fought him #it caused a huge shift in Gotham that couldn't be ignored #and we all know Batman wouldn't ignore it. #Honestly I just wanted Ghost King Danny and Lady Gotham discussing business and drinking tea as they float. #I like to think the Batfam do get to the Observatory and somehow sneak in even with all the guards. #what happens next I leave open for others to play with. #11 pm ideas and thoughts

[nelkcats]

The Cat Statue

In the center of Gotham stood a cat statue, its eyes were emeralds and glowed toxic green. It always seemed to be looking at you.

No one in the city dared to do anything against the statue. There were rumors that the last time people tried to demolish it, all the construction equipment was damaged, and the workers were sick for weeks. There were people who tried to steal it eyes, but their skin burned without explanation after touching it.

Unlike most inhabitants in Gotham, Selina was not afraid of the statue. She adored it. She asked it questions from time to time, and though no one believed her, the statue always answered; a whisper in her ears, snowflakes in summer, the touch of a hand on her shoulder.

Selina knew the statue wasn't normal, she'd known it since she was a child. But instead of fearing it, it made her feel safe. That's why she used to keep the bats and other rogues out of the place, it was her place, no one else's.

Danny was trapped in the Infinite Realms so he'd been looking for ways to entertain himself. One of them: Statues. Statues hidden in every dimension, statues that brought comfort to those who leaned on them. Though the connection was tenuous, Danny could interfere with their lives if they asked.

Selina had become one of his favorite persons. It was for that reason that when he saw her injured and she asked him for shelter, a great dome of ice formed around her, the statue's eyes glowing brighter than ever.

The Joker backed up a few steps, frowning as he noticed the dome, he had chased Catwoman to the spot and thought he had her cornered. He was about to make another move when spikes of ice began to form on the dome as a warning. Honestly, Danny wouldn't mind killing the clown.

For his part, Batman watched the scene from the roof. An indescribable look on his face.

#dpxdc #Danny has statues scattered throughout all the dimensions that interest him #he was bored #immortal Danny #He chosed a cat because of Sam #She suggested it #The statues are made with his ghost ice #They are connected to him #Clockwork allowed it #dp x dc #dc x dp #Danny likes Selina #She taked care of his statue since the beginning #and talked with him #of course he would intercede for her if she was in danger #The Joker had a battle with Batman and Catwoman interfered to save him #He didn't like that #And attacked her #Selina escaped to her favorite place #and Danny protected her via the statue #he doesn't mind if the clown dies anyway

[evilminji]

A Moral Dilemma! Question!

Let's say there is a trucker. An average man. Kind enough, did okay in school, loves his wife and misses her like you wouldn't believe every time he has to go. Misses his little girl even more. HATES he's missing the early years of her life. First day to school, getting her up and brushing her hair into pigtails, making pancakes like his Pa used to make. The works.

But the economy is shit. Him and his wife have to work. Make ends meet. They're DESPERATE to get out of Gotham. Move somewhere boring. Safe.

But... well, places like that cost money. Kids cost money. And he did OKAY in school. Not a lot of jobs out there for "Okay" guys from Gotham.

His cousin finds him a route though. A solid job. Really pulled through when push came to shove and things were looking bad. Like he might have to take up that offer to Goon. Now he's a trucker.

And his route? Well the half way point is Amity Park. He stops to stay the night every time. Never really STAYS, has heard they got themselves a Cape and such, but? It is what it is. He's from Gotham. He minds his business. Parks on the outskirts of town to avoid getting hit.

Doesn't realize, he's getting SOAKED in Ectoplasm every time he's in town.

And this trucker? Not the healthiest man. He wishes he could be. But life on the road is not exactly conducive to fresh fruit and leafy greens. He eats more grease and sugar then his doctor would EVER recommend. In fact, has specifically warned him not too.

But some days you just need a warm meal. You miss your kid, your wife, your bed. And you know it'll be days before you can see any of them. But at least there is pancakes.

You can pretend you're eating with your family. Or at least, let the coffee be warm enough for the two of you. God, but the poor man is tired.

And as he gets close to Gotham?

Breaking News!

The Joker. AGAIN. The trucker cringes, horror filling him. What poor soul has that mad man hurt NOW? When will it end? Him and his wife are so close to getting the hell out. Thinking Kansas. His wife has been joking about pie baking competit-

No.

Oh God No.

There, on the screen, tears streaming down her beautiful face? Is the love of his life. His best friend. His EVERYTHING. And in her arms, trying so, so hard to be quiet. To muffle her terror born sobs... is his little girl. One pigtail torn from its srunchie, blood on her tiny face.

The trucker knows how this story ends.

Batman will try. He ALWAYS tries. And sometimes... sometimes that's enough. But he knows the odds here. His family are in front. Stars of this sick show. The trucker can't breathe. His heart is pounding, too hard for a man of his health.

He's not young. Should be on blood pressure meds he simply cant afford. Is panicked by a terror few should ever suffer. And? What runs in his family, strikes true. It feels so far away, the pain in his chest. He... No, he can't.

He can't.

His family.

He can't die. Leave them. They're in danger! They can't die like this. So close to freedom. Happiness. They... the..y.. ca..n..t...

.

.

THEY WON'T. HE REFUSES.

~~~

So! Here in comes the QUESTION! As you sit, watching this terrified child call for her father, ripped from her begging mothers arms, you see a green opaque man full body tackle the Joker.

You watch his eyes visible glow and change color, fight a visible STRUGGLE, like jeckle and Hyde, for control of his body. Between the monster known as Joker and what seems to be? The little girl's newly Meta father.

The Father wins.

You watch the Bat arrive with the police. Thank the man and say he can release Joker into custody. See the EXACT moment the Meta realizes something. Turns to look at his daughter, then his wife. Looks back at the commissioner.

Says "No".

Is he right to do this? To Possess the Joker, as a life sentence, to insure the safety of others? He is perfectly will to sit that life in a jail cell. Knows he will never be allowed to roam free again. But! The Joker is contained.

Is this Right? Or merely emotionally satisfying?

Discuss :3

@hypewinter @hdgnj @the-witchhunter @ailithnight @nerdpoe

#dpxdc #dp x dc #dc x dp #dcxdp #dc x dp prompt #to be honest #walker comes to collect the Joker and slaps a prisoner in him in exchange for a reduced sentence #trucker ghost and his wife move to Kansas #sometimes family is you #your mom #and your dad who is a ghost #but oh sweet jesus the screaming ethics debate here at the precinct #jason you are a crime lord #batman stop trying to save the Joker #please

[thecruellestmonth]

Does the mass-murdering criminal Jason "Red Hood" Todd canonically support the death penalty?

No, I can't find evidence that Red Hood supports the death penalty.

There is a difference between murder (illegal) and state-sanctioned killing (legal). Red Hood commits unlawful homicide. The death penalty is lawful homicide. Jason is a murderer. The death penalty is not legally considered murder. Commissioner Jim Gordon is a decorated military veteran, not a murderer.

Committing violence ≠ wanting the government to have the right to commit that violence. Batman and his allies brutalize criminals; they don't necessarily support the state brutalizing criminals. Red Hood kills some criminals; Red Hood doesn't necessarily support the state killing criminals. Catwoman doesn't necessarily support the state committing burglary. Et cetera.

The death penalty is administered by the criminal legal system. Jason does not like the criminal legal system (see some of his run-ins with the police). He grew up as an impoverished child who didn't believe in the system, he was raised by Batman to believe that vigilantes can make a difference that the system can't, and he became an adult criminal who still doesn't believe in the system. He's not interested in using the criminal legal system. He isn't interested in giving more powers and privileges to an abusive system that has wronged him and the people he cares about.

When Jason started up his villain business, the death penalty was legal in Gotham City. (See Detective Comics #644, The Joker: Devil's Advocate, Batgirl 2000 #19, Punchline #1.) The death penalty was also in place during his Robin run. Jason didn't argue in favor of the state having the right to kill prisoners, and the death penalty never addressed his complaints about the status quo.

Jason has rescued people from wrongful* imprisonment and the death penalty. Again, based on his own firsthand experiences, he has many reasons to believe that the system is broken. *Some of us would argue that locking any people in prisons tends to be wrongful and inhumane by default, but we could choose to accept the standard premises of crime fiction as without endorsing it as moral instruction.

Jason Todd is a criminal: a mass murderer, a terrorist, a villain. He does evil. He doesn't represent or support the legal system. He probably has the least political capital out of all the Batfamily-associated characters. He doesn't promote the death penalty. He commits murder—illegally, as a criminal, state-unapproved.

Some recent comics related to the topic:

Gotham Nights (2020) #11 "One Minute After Midnight", written by Marc Guggenheim

Red Hood and Nightwing team up to investigate the case of a man wrongly convicted of murder and sentenced to be executed. Both of them disapprove of how the broken criminal legal system botched this case.

Joker: The Man Who Stopped Laughing #8 (2023), written by Matthew Rosenberg

"You familiar with Hannah Arendt's concept of Schreibtischtäter? Desk murderers? It's people who use the state to kill for them, so they don't have to get their hands dirty."

#Jason Todd #Jason Todd meta #Batfam meta #Batfamily meta #Batfam #Batfamily #Robin II #Batkids #Batman Gotham Nights #DC Robin #Red Hood #Joker The Man Who Stopped Laughing #Matt Rosenberg #canon vs fanon #fanon vs canon #panels #RHATO 2011 opens with Red Hood saving somebody from being unjustly executed. Don't read it. It is bad. Just trust me. #Jason Todd is legally dead and not registered to vote. #I could make a much longer post about Jason's general contempt for authorities but let's limit it today. #thecruellestmonth #I know the 1992-2010 comics purists are going to come after me for using recent comics. #I could make a much longer post about Post-Crisis Jason Todd's attitudes about the police and the state. #But that longer post still wouldn't have much to say about the death penalty-- #--because--AGAIN--there is NO evidence that Jason supports the death penalty! But there is plenty of indirect evidence that he doesn't. #Do the words ''system''‚ ''state''‚ ''criminal''‚ and ''legal'' look like real words anymore? #ID in alt text #described #image described #ID in alt #image description

[boygirltreehouse]

unfortunately thinking hard abt how Bruce meets duke at three vastly different times in his life and how he watched the innocence and cheer leave him as he got older and more jaded only for his spirit to blaze with hope when he matures into the signal

#ITS LIKE #dukes convinced hes an entirely different kid #he goes from a clever determined baby know it all to a jaded but hopeful 14ish year old to a rough edged thick skinned tunnel visioned 16 #year old in WAR but like bruce meets well remeets duke post war and who he meets is an amalgamation of all 3 but dukes convinced that kid i #gone died the night gotham experienced that joker attack and hes sure hes so different theres no way his parents could be proud #but BUT!!! Bruce sees that same 7 year old he met erasing and rewriting riddles bcs hes convinced hes the one who will save gotham from the #riddler bcs SOMEONE has to and it mightas well be him and youre only crazy if it doesn't work right? #help..HELP ME #MEDIC MEDIC #the signal #thought bubbles #duke thomas #bruce wayne #batman

[lovelylonelymoonlight]

I don’t know how to explain to dc writers that it is way more impactful if Bruce switches to purely defensive moves when he figures out it’s Jason

#also ultimately he should just try to walk away during the shootout with the joker #the bomb goes off before that tho #and again he should try to save Jason #it’s way more impactful if we SEE him care about Jason and yet he still can’t do the one thing he’s asking him to do #batfamily #batman #batfam #bruce wayne #jason todd

[mydarlingbat]

Batman #139

#batjokes #batman and joker #batman #batman x joker #comics #comic books #the joker #dc comics #batmm #dcedit #saving

[clownprince]

hi don't mind me just thinking about how harley interpreted batman showing up at joker's execution in his dream as joker's desire for batman to save him (maybe from the execution maybe in general?) and the implication that she finally left him because his dream implied that if anyone were to save him it would be batman not harley...

#“the unbearable longing we all have for someone to save us” #like. hello??? #paul dini you can't do this to me #i'm just so fucking obsessed with the implication that somewhere subconsciously joker desperately wants to be saved by batman #btw the story is “the last smile” in the joker 80th anniversary 100-page super spectacular #batjokes

[kittykatninja321]

controversially I do think that the under the red hood comic ending is a solid answer to “how do you get Batman to kill someone without breaking him as a character”

#That is if you think Jason died at the end of utrh which I sorta do #they were arguing about this exact thing on Twitter the other day and someone brought up the utrh movie ending. I was like nah. Bring up th #Other one. Bruce was in a situation where he was trying to save two people who were determined to either die or kill the other person #(or kill everyone in the room maybe) and by trying to do the typical Batman thing and choose neither/both of them. They took the opportunit #to choose for him. Joker takes the opportunity to set off the explosives sealing Jason’s fate and in a new favorite interpretation of mine: #Jason chooses not to dodge the batarang and lets Bruce deal him a fatal blow. Moral of the story: not everyone can be saved #Jason Todd #Batman #under the red hood #dc #Bruce Wayne

[undertheredhood]

“why do you headcanon jason todd as a poc?” idk maybe it’s because he was racially ambiguous enough to the point where he considered lady shiva as one of the potential candidates to be his bio mother as a possibility.

#dc comics #dc universe #dcu #batman #red hood #jason todd #jason peter todd #jason was never the angry robin #lady shiva #sandra wu san #person of color jason todd #poc jason todd #i don’t really care for the adif comic because of how islamophobic and pro-z10n1st it was #(if you don’t know one of jason’s bio mom candidates was a spy for the isnotreal government) #but yeah i kinda find the part where he believed shiva to be his mother hilarious #and that and sh*ela betraying him to the joker to save her own skin are the only things i consider canon imo #it’s wild that willis todd and shiva actually knew each other tho

[penguinsblues]

happy batjokes day 🦇💖🤡

#fanart #batman #batjokes #batman x joker #juce #telltale batman #the joker #<3 #my favorite flavor of batkokes at the moment is when the fight is over #batman's beaten the living daylight out of joker already #the day is saved and now all they can do is wait for the police to arrive #and while they wait they can have a moment of peace just to themself before gordon and arkham and the usual song and dance #and they're waiting on the roof. it's gotta be on the roof lol

[ky-landfill]

#death in the family #screenshot redraw #jason todd #joker #dude about to snap #context from the DITF choose your own adventure movie #bruce dies saving jason in Ethiopia #by using his body as a human shield #rip batdad #jason doesnt go down the criminal path in bruces memory #nightwing becomes batman #years later jason meets normie joker in a diner without knowing who he is #they talk for a bit #joker says a slmething that triggers jasons memory and makes him realise who he is #and he snaps #stabs the dude in the eye #and calmly gets arrested #kind of badass mostly sad #this is actually canon for the movie go watch it if you havent already #there needs to be more fan content of this

[nelkcats]

Run, run and don't stop running

Flash lived the end of the world again and was thinking about how to retire from being a hero; It actually started out as a pretty normal day, everyone was at the Watchtower for a meeting when Batman showed up with a strange book.

The book had summoning rituals and information about ghosts. Flash scoffed at it until Batman talked about the Joker trying to buy it from warlocks and use it, luckily he hadn't succeeded because of Bruce intervention. They all agreed to leave the book with Constantine, who looked sulky about the situation.

The problem was what happened shortly after; while they were trying to deal with another invasion (of strange, glowing, one-eyed beings) the Joker appeared in the middle of the battle with a wide smile and the same book that Constantine had been given (Constantine was really confused, he was sure he left the book in a place where not even humans can enter) Flash had a bad feeling when the villain picked it up and started talking, beginning the summoning ritual.

His bad feeling grew as he watched a necklace with a red stone shone around the villain's neck. Joker laughed commenting that it was a family heirloom (although he didn't ask). And that it was his precious treasure.

From there, everything went to hell. All the creatures saw the portal opening and bowed in respect. Shortly after "The Ghost King" appeared, the entire League had fallen in battle. The one-eyed beings were hard but ¿this? This was on another level, not even Superman could win against it. And Batman didn't had a backup plan for an unknown enemy.

Flash looked into the King's expressionless red eyes as he backed away, and just when he thought all was lost, he heard a voice. Everything around him froze.

"Run, run and change my son's future"

Not knowing what the voice meant and noticing that time seemed frozen, he began to run. He was going to run and turn back time, change the future, steal that book, kill the Ghost King, he didn't know what he would do, but he hoped it would work.

From the Infinite Realms, Clockwork frowned at his screen. And for once in centuries, he would help the Speedforce change the future, regardless of the consequences.

#dpxdc #ghost king danny #The Joker is Freakshow descendant #The red stone was for controlling ghost #The weird creatures were the Observants #Danny is being mind controlled #Flash doesn't know that #he will start a time loop with Clockwork help #and repeat the day hundreds of times trying to kill the Ghost King #Clockwork is helping him because he wants to save Danny of course #none of Flash attempts worked anyways #Danny is already dead #dp x dc #dc x dp #Danny is Clockwork adoptive son #He was chilling until a weird book summoned him #The rest of the League was confused when The Joker was the one beginning the attack but Batman was not surprised #Constantine gave up when the Ghost King appeared #The Joker stole the book from Constantine with ghost help

[donnatroyyyy]

Can I be honest with everyone a second? I honestly think that every instance used to justify calling Dick Grayson the “angry robin” is him being justifiably mad at something that would make anyone who was put in the situation mad.

#like people really be like “oh look nightwing got angry and killed the guy that murdered his brother. paralyzed his ex. and made him think #that he murdered and tortured his other brother. also the guy who’s been torturing and playing with him and his father figure for over a #decade and has killed countless people. but nightwing killed him out of anger he must have anger issues.’’ #like wtf?? #you read all of that and instead of reading someone finally killing someone who’s put him and his family and the WHOLE WORLD through such #misery and abuse and grief for literal laughs #you read someone with anger isssues killing a bad guy cuz he got mad #also while we’re on the topic of this whole thing #Bruce revived joker FOR Dick. Bruce probably wanted to let that motherfucker die more than anything but he didn’t want joker’s death on #Nightwing’s conscious. he saved the person he wanted dead most for his son. #dc comics #comics #batfam #robin #batman #nightwing #dick grayson

[betterthanbatman1]

Jason really crashed an aircraft with himself still in it in order to save others not once but twice.

#He really has a thing for flying in a ship and sacrificing himself and proving Bruce WRONG #what a king honestly #And he did this in the same universe #Like the only difference is the art style #This boy really got out of one aircraft explosion and went straight to the next one #5 times Jason sacrificed himself saving people and almost dying in an explosion #+1 time he actually did die from doing that #Too soon? •_• #jason todd #red hood #batfamily #batfam #batman #bruce wayne #dc #dc comics #zur en arrh #Gotham war #joker the man who stopped laughing #holy queue batman

[brucewaynehater101]

Whether or not Bruce should kill the Joker is a debate we can have for ages. However, let me raise you: Why can't Bruce just not 𝘴𝘢𝘷𝘦 Joker?

There's plenty of people in the world that need to be saved and loads of tasks Batman could be distracted with at a time he knows Joker is going to be killed. If the Joker so happens to die when he's saving someone else, that'll just be another person he didn't save. Sucks, but what can you do? Should he have let this other person die? There's already so much suffering and death in the world that, even knowing about, he doesn't have the capabilities and time to prevent. He can only have so much on his plate at a time.

Hell, he could go on a space JL mission during a planned attack. He doesn't need to kill Joker, but he certainly doesn't need to prioritize that clown's safety either.

#dc comics #dc universe #batman #bruce wayne #dc joker #joker has plot armor #bruce needs to prioritize his kids #someone needs to teach bruce about setting his priorities straight #is it really killing if you chose not to save someone #dc joker should stop living #the batkids should have a murder joker night when bruce goes on a worktrip