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#Batman: Dark Victory
grayisblogging · 3 months
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i love him
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gffa · 6 months
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Dark Victory is EXTREMELY formative for how I see baby Dick Grayson--tiny angry gremlin child but also tiny vulnerable heartbroken child who keeps trying to connect. I see this as going hand in hand with something like Robin: Year One where he brings joy and laughter back into Wayne Manor:
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He's so bright and joyful, to the point that he's dragging Bruce out of the dark just by being there, by getting him to actually even smile! Or any other instance where he's being a ray of sunshine or deeply caring about others.
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That, instead of Pure Sunshine or Pure Rage Monster, I like to think of Dick Grayson as a Category Five Hurricane Child, that whatever he feels, he's so often deep into that particular emotion, that it's joy and love and rage and anger or laughter, that he just tornadoes his way right through everything. That I think the full range of emotions has to be part of Dick's larger character, that primarily he's someone who is an optimist, he continually turns towards hope and compassion, he refuses to stay lost in the dark even when he strays back towards it time and again, but that it's a meaningful choice on his part--meaningful work on his part--because there is a lot of rage in him, that there has been since he was a kid. He wasn't just an angry kid, you can easily see the vulnerability on his face, especially when talking about his parents with Alfred or when he confesses that he's all alone or when he's trying to get Bruce to spend time with him or when Zucco died in front of him, he has always been a sweet kid. But when he got mad, that kid was M A D, he has a fury that burns in him so strongly, that his choice to see the good in people, to open himself up to loving people, means all the more, because he turns that same intensity to caring about people, that he's a hurricane no matter what direction he's headed in.
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batmancurated · 1 year
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by tim sale
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sengokuthegouda · 7 months
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This sequence is phenomenal. So well done from every single aspect. The direction, writing, art, coloring, and emotional beats are all flawless.
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hood-ex · 5 months
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How old is Dick during Dark Victory and Robin: Year One?
In Dark Victory, Bruce mentions that Dick is roughly the same age he was when his parents died. That means Dick is about 8 or so.
Dick goes to middle school in RYO (although, Bruce refers to it as a high school, but then right after that, Dick refers to it as a middle school, and it says middle school on the school itself, so I'm going with middle school). I guess that puts him somewhere between 11-13. Jim profiles Dick as a kid who's early to middle teens, so he probably is about 13.
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alphacomicsvol2 · 5 months
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Batman: Dark Victory #4 by Tim Sale
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big-gay-apocalypse · 2 years
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// Batman: Dark Victory
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reyturnofbensolo · 2 years
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RIP Tim Sale(6-16-22)!
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dccomicsnews · 2 years
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Tim Sale, Batman and Superman Artist, Dies at 66
Tim Sale, Batman and Superman Artist, Dies at 66
Tim Sale, the Eisner Award-winning artist behind milestone Batman and Superman stories, has passed away. He was 66 years old. His Twitter feed broke the story on June 16: https://twitter.com/ArtBySale/status/1537500528833228800?s=20&t=I9u1dU3sG0mUfia_H61scA This comes shortly after DC publisher and CCO Jim Lee had announced that Tim had been hospitalized due to illness. Because of death has…
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fancyfade · 2 years
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reading batman: dark victory and I don’t think anyone told jeph loeb that disabled people could read and maybe even read his comics
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grayisblogging · 3 months
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love when gordon is essentially just drawn as a little floating mustache
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gffa · 6 months
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These two pages from Dark Victory have stayed with me ever since I first read it because they're visually hella interesting, I enjoy Tim Sale's art for how stylish it is, but also because every time I see it, I hear the click of a spotlight being turned on, almost like this is a play being acted out. It highlights the connection between the characters, but that it also is shutting everything else out. That makes sense in the moment, Dick just watched his parents die, there's nothing else in the world for him. Bruce is reliving his own trauma of having watched his parents die, as well as watching another child go through the same thing--but, in a way I can't shake, it almost feels like Bruce is intruding on this moment, too. That Dick's loss gets interpreted as a mirror of Bruce's loss--Dark Victory goes to great lengths to hammer home that parallel, it is not at all subtle about it:
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But what strikes me about the moment of the Graysons' deaths is that it feels almost like a play being acted out, that Bruce becomes part of it because they mirror each other so strongly, that for all they grow as individuals and come to love each other as uniquely different people, they will always be rooted in this mirroring of each other. Bruce isn't just a bystander to Dick's loss and grief, it fundamentally connects them and defines them--that in many ways Dick understands Bruce the best because, as Dick says about himself, when he was Robin, he was smaller than everyone else, so he had to learn to read people better, to know what they were going to do, because Dick was with Bruce the longest, because Dick and Bruce often are the most similar. But it's also that Dick understands Bruce best because Bruce allowed him in because of this mirror, that sometimes it feels like Bruce only understands people through the lens of his own grief, that's why Dick's the closest to him, because Dick shares that same loss. This isn't to undercut that Dick was a bright, lively child who brought laughter and joy because that is also absolutely true and I will fight tooth and nail anyone who says otherwise. Bruce loves that kid because Dick refused to not be loved, because he's not the same as Bruce, he's brighter, he's better, he's more in so many ways. Bruce and Dick's relationship isn't just one thing or another, there are times when it borders on almost being kind of healthy and then there are times when it's toxic as hell, yet it's always underscored by how much they genuinely love each other, how Bruce keeps thoughts of Dick in his mind to turn to for solace just like he turns to thoughts of his own father, how Dick demands to be worth just as much to Bruce's parents even when they've traveled into the future to be directly in front of him, and Dick gets that worth from Bruce. But sometimes I think about that panel, I hear a spotlight clicking on in my head, I think about Bruce unintentionally inserting himself into this moment of Dick's loss and how Bruce sometimes holds him closer to his heart because Dick's hurt mirrors his own so much. How sometimes Bruce sees the world through that lens of trauma and only how much people can understand it, that the rest of the world drops away and is nothing but black, empty space, except him and the person who understands his hurt.
That I can look at that panel and see it as its meant to be--a moment of pure connection, "I understand what you're going through, I can't take it away, but I can be here with you." and how that saved Dick Grayson's life, how it allowed him to heal and grow and thrive. I can see Bruce's heart breaking because he would have done anything to save this kid from that pain. And sometimes I can look at it and see Bruce watching a horrific play unfold before him and relating to it through his own issues, rather than true empathy. Ultimately, it's really more that they're kindred spirits, that's what the follow-up pages show, that Dick goes through the same process that Bruce went through, he does the same things Bruce did, all while Bruce isn't there to influence him into that at all. Dick is his own person, Bruce couldn't make him be a copy of Bruce if he'd wanted to, he couldn't even win an argument with a nine-year-old about putting on a costume and fighting crime with him and absolutely not staying out of the line of fire. Dick Grayson did what he was going to do, Bruce had nothing to do with making him into that person. But part of the reason they're such an interesting dynamic is because they're not just purely one thing or another, that for all that at the end of the day, Dick and Bruce are naturally like each other in a lot of core ways, it's also possible to read them as unhealthy co-dependent on each other, that them being everything to each other comes with some sharper edges, especially when Bruce sometimes resents Dick for growing beyond him and leaving him, even while desperately proud of him at the same time.
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It's a thing Bruce struggles with a lot when it comes to Dick and I think of this tangled web of emotions every time I see that second splash page above. That Bruce came to love this kid as a son, but also as someone who understood what it was like to live with that kind of devastating loss, and how hard Bruce connected with that--and then how hard it was to let him go, when Bruce can't let go of his parents. That it's hard for Bruce to see Dick grow beyond being the son who understood him best, who mirrored his tragedy best, and he'll do it, he loves his kid enough to keep climbing back up out of that desire to hold onto him as his reflection even if he falls back into it sometimes, that some part of him will always see Dick as the one who had that connection that blocked the rest of the world out and understood him in a way no one else could.
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sassylittlecanary · 1 month
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Batman’s cape should always be drawn like it’s basically a sentient creature with its own personality. Bruce is like “hnnn I want to be a Creepy Night Creature” and his cape is like “got it boss 🫡”
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sengokuthegouda · 7 months
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Issue nine of Dark Victory, "Orphans," is simply put a masterpiece. By far the highlight of Dark Victory thus far. The story of Bruce and Dick and the parallels are so well portrayed here. I know enough to know their relationship will be fraught and rocky over the years, but it starts so quietly. So beautifully.
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anicomicgeek · 9 months
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Chief O’Hara from “Batman: Dark Victory” and Jim Malone from “The Untouchables”
Is it just me or did Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale based their depiction of Chief O’Hara in Batman: Dark Victory on Sean Connery’s Jim Malone character from the Untouchables film?
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I mean, O’Hara’s ruder and more cynical than he was in the ‘60s show, has a mustache as opposed to being clean-shaven as in the ‘60s show, viewed Two-Face’s murder of Carmine Falcone as a good thing (which could be seen as mirroring Malone’s advice to Ness in the church and his tactics), and he meets with Gordon on a bridge much like how Malone and Ness first met.  About the only real thing this version is lacking is Malone’s overt bigotry towards Italians.
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ky-landfill · 14 days
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@dickgraysonweek
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