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animentality · 10 months
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Lynda Carter, Miss World USA 1972
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Маргарита Голубева. Россия.🇷🇺 Конкурс красоты «Мисс Вселенная - 2023», Сальвадор.
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starfruiity · 3 months
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Venus-Saturn: A Beauty Queen
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My first post yay! It was originally on my website but I'm deleting that soon so I brought it here.
First things first:
I do not read charts professionally.
correlation ≠ causation
If you have any of the mentioned aspects and have experience in pageantry or even an interest in it, please please feel free to talk about it in the quotes or ask box!
tw: eating disorders
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This a veryy long post!! If you share please give me credit !!
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While doing research for my Desire & Astrology project (now closed), I was reminded of something that deals with Venus but is rarely discussed, and that's beauty pageants.
Whether this is because of its declining popularity or lack of interest in something that is presumed to be shallow, beauty pageants display Venus's domain very well.
OG BEAUTY QUEEN
Let's go back, and I mean way back, to Aphrodite. She took part in a beauty contest herself. Since I will be referencing the original myth (The Judgement of Paris) that appears in the Cypria, Greek names will be used instead of Roman.
It all starts at the wedding of Peleus and Thetis, all the gods were to attend except for one, Eris, the goddess of strife and discord.
She showed up anyway but was not allowed to attend. This makes her upset and to live up to her name, she causes discord by dropping an apple that was addressed to the most beautiful.
The three goddesses: Aphrodite, Hera, and Athena began to argue about who the fairest of them all was. As we can tell, Aphrodite won and became thee beauty queen of the millennium.
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The Judgement of Paris -- Etienne Jeaurat (1699-1789)
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prominence of venus-saturn aspect
I began looking up countries that had top-winning international titles (Miss World, Miss Universe, etc.) and/or had a strong pageantry culture. These countries are (most to least):
Venezuela
The Philippines
The United States
Puerto Rico
India
Australia
United Kingdom
Brazil
South Africa
Sweden
Mexico
While looking at these countries' natal charts, those who had an AA/A rating, there was a particular aspect that popped up, Venus-Saturn.
India: Venus Conjunct Saturn
United Kingdom: Venus Opposite Saturn
South Africa: Venus Square Saturn
Venezuela: Venus Opposite Saturn
It's a smaller list compared to the listed countries. So, I instead looked up the natal charts of documented beauty pageant winners.
I can't list all the women (and men!!) who have this placement it will just make the post even longer than it already is. But here are some (with AA/A rating!!):
Venessa Williams: Venus Conjunct Saturn
Michelle Pfeiffer: Venus Square Saturn
Jennifer Hosten: Venus Square Saturn
Zsa Zsa Gabor: Venus Opposite Saturn
Susan Powell: Venus Trine Saturn
Oprah Winfrey: Venus Square Saturn
Adriana Lima: Venus Square Saturn
I read 100+ charts (all had verified birth times btw), and though I'm focusing on Venus-Saturn I did notice some other aspects that appeared frequently:
Venus-North Node
Venus-Sun
Venus-MC
Why focus on the Venus-Saturn aspect? Well, I'm kind of tired of the same old description lol. But really, going through the natal charts was interesting, and of the amount that I read, over 40% had the aspect (I did the math), which made up the majority.
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recap + commentary
First a recap of the planets Venus and Saturn. Venus is the planet of beauty, unity, and harmony, because of this influence this makes Venus a benefic.
On the other hand, Saturn is the planet of restriction, time, and rejection which means he is a malefic planet.
While watching these videos about the pageantry culture of many countries and the women who participated in them, I noticed the habits of these women and those who assist them.
These women were restrained. The restriction wasn't just self-imposed, it was also done by those around them (sometimes parents, other contestants, or even the public).
So, when Saturn communicates with Venus it may indicate that connecting with others, whether platonic or romantic, is difficult, strained, and restricted. And it's not just connecting with others, but also connecting with themselves.
This is more obvious with harsh aspects as the planets are in conflict. And to reach some sort of balance, you have to appease both planets.
Beauty pageants are one way to appease the conflict.
Through pageants, a person can explore the "Venusian" domain through fashion, glamor, being surrounded by women, and of course, receiving attention.
The "Saturnian" domain is explored through isolation from their families and friends, a restriction of their diet, and the development of the discipline needed to win the competition.
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ATMOSPHERE OF BEAUTY PAGEANTS
I watched many documentaries and I gathered quotes that I felt showed the Venus-Saturn aspect perfectly from the preparation to the execution:
"The one who gets the crown, she has to be very disciplined, very well-centered. You have to polish the rough diamond and all the rough edges"
"Morning call at 5:30, curfew at 10 o'clock, no food outside the diet regime, no alcohol, no smoking in public. Every move is watched."
The woman given any beauty pageant title is the woman with the most discipline and shows it not only to the judges but the public.
While I watching one documentary there were two women, Neha and Gauahar, who were labeled as "stuck-up" and were given the nickname "ice-vaginas" by another contestant.
And this is a recurring assumption of those who have prominent Saturn placements. They're often seen as being aloof and cold when they are not.
While I don't have the natal charts of Neha and Gauahar, I can point out that the winner of the pageant, Neha, did display Saturn-like qualities the best.
She was strict with her diet, which included no smoking.
She was distant and focused on winning the competition only.
And while Neha didn't wish any ill or harm to the other contestants she still came off as rude or impolite.
Funnily enough, rudeness is often aligned with Saturn. Archetypically speaking, Saturn has no need for politeness or niceness, he is isolated and prefers to keep to himself.
Venus on the other hand is all about bonding, and to bond you have to be pleasant, polite, and aware of others.
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BEAUTY QUEEN CONFESSIONS
Here's what some Beauty Queens had to say about their experience in pageantry:
"I had phenomenal moments as Miss America. But the reality is it is 24 hours a day every day of the week for the entirety of the year."
"Behind the scenes, there were rules like no men were allowed in your hotel, including your father."
"It's pressure to perform, pressure to produce, pressure to provide."
"The schedule was grueling. I remember having 3-5 appearances in one day. And a different city, every 18-36 hours, literally, it seems glamorous and yet it was very lonely, many times."
"It's really really hard because you are mentally drained, you are physically drained, you are isolated."
"I felt very alone, It's very isolating. It's just you and your tour manager all year."
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And that's the thing, no matter how glamorous it may seem to be on stage in a glittering gown, the reality (Saturn) can be, and is, very lonely.
The rules and guidelines that used to be in place to compete were so strict, but the guidelines that followed the woman who won the title were even stricter.
No beauty pageant with beauty sounds silly, but a beauty pageant without discipline and pressure is comical.
Pressure to be graceful and composed. Pressure to have the best answer, the best smile, the best gown, the best walk, the perfect package.
As pressure makes diamonds. The pressure (Saturn) and stiffness (also Saturn) are honed into gracefulness (Venus).
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I previously mentioned how many beauty pageant participants restrict their diet. Below are two quotes from two different documentaries:
"When I competed in Miss America there were women who, unfortunately, were currently dealing with eating disorders. One woman would only eat baby food, so she just brought baby food jars with her, and that's all she would have."
"This is my lunch, and this is what I eat two hours after lunch. Spinach with chicken broccoli with fish. It tastes horrible. Nothing has seasoning, but this is the diet. One has to make sacrifices."
As starvation is aligned with Saturn, sadly, it's not surprising to hear and see many women restricting themselves to win.
I know this is about beauty pageants, but I see the same thing with models. In fact many people, from the models themselves to people who work alongside them, mention it.
Models express how the face pressure to avoid food to keep a thin appearance.
And this pressure doesn't just come from designers and casting directors, but it's self-imposed.
Many models describe the time they were their sickest and thinnest as also the time when they experienced a boost in their career, maybe even experiencing their prime.
They joke about being "hangers", since their job is to display clothes, and the focus should be on that, not the model's body.
It seems demeaning, another Saturn thing, but it's why they strive to be so skinny.
Saturn is the planet of rejection, and rejection can foster humility or humbleness, another thing he rules over.
When models address themselves as hangers they remind not only themselves but also those around them that the attention should not be on them, but the clothes. The message is clear:
"I don't matter, the clothes do."
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wrapping it up
Though the way I read birth charts is heavily influenced by Hellenistic and medieval astrological techniques, I still believe that everything is up to the person.
The focus is the theme of Venus-Saturn: disciplined and restricted beauty/connection/and love. Though using beauty pageants is a dramatic example, I feel it makes the theme and archetype of the aspect obvious.
The Venus-Saturn native understands, or at least comes to understand, that joyful things take work; beauty can bring joy, and relationships--connecting with others--bring joy, but all take work, vulnerability, and some sacrifice.
It's like this, in this context, Saturn allows you to explore the "Venusian" domain: to show yourself, enjoy the fun of dressing up, and be around people.
But you have to sacrifice your time, the habits that you previously established (eating whatever you want, smoking, etc.), and the connections you already have.
Because Venus-Saturn natives are typically so used to being in situations where this theme is emphasized it should be no surprise that they often end up winning the crown, literally and metaphorically.
© 2024 starfruiity
Gif is Susmita Sen, winner of the Miss Universe 1994 title.
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mysharona1987 · 2 years
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troutreznor · 2 months
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Contestants at a "Miss Man Made," a trans beauty pageant that took place at the Palladium nightclub in NYC in 1986. Andy Warhol was one of the judges.
photo & caption by Mariette Pathy Allen [website] [instagram]
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fitsofgloom · 1 year
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A Contest You Can Sink Your Teeth Into! Jonathan Frid crowning New Jersey's Christine Domaniecki as the regional winner of The Miss American Vampire Contest, 1970. This was a promotional gimmick on the part of MGM for the "Dark Shadows" feature film "House of Dark Shadows," the winner awarded a trip to New York and a guest spot on the TV series. Weirdly, Sacheen Littlefeather -- later to appear at the Oscars three years later to decline Marlon Brando's award for "The Godfather" on his behalf -- would take the final crown, but ultimately never claim the grand prize, Domaniecki appearing on the series instead.
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thepropagandists · 5 months
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Miss Universe 2023
Miss Nicaragua 🇳🇮
Sheynnis Palacios
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Politics in the U.S. have shifted sooo much to the right that now there are only two competing political spectrums:
The far right drawing bills that would allow kids/ teenagers to work longer hours and perform some currently banned tasks, cutting taxes on the super rich (increasing them on the poor), criminalizing abortion (some states even want to implement the death sentence to women who have abortions), criminalizing trans people (by banning drag shows, or anything that 'sexualizes' children, without of course fobidding beauty competitions in little girls in bikinis), banning any books that talk about racism, trans people or homosexuality from schools, etc. There are people even talking about banning women's rights to vote.
Versus the center right, a.k.a. Democrats which are even more right than the CDU, which is Germany's center right party that widely endorses universal health care and many other social issues that the Democratic party rarely even talks about or would even dream in supporting ("Like why should I pay for other's peoples' wellbeing").
The center left, i.e. Bernie Sanders, is out of the panorama, since it is considered far left even by the Democrats in the U.S. of A. Bernie Sanders is by no means, a socialist. He'd be an average SPD member, which is Germany's current ruling center left party.
While the Evangelical right of the U.S. does not represent the majority, they have so much power, that they managed to succeed in drawing all these antisocial legislations. It's not only a democracy question, but the truly worrying thing is that they can be considered the Western Hemisphere's equivalent of the Taliban.
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emeraldexplorer2 · 1 month
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Frankfurter Queen. Jeanne Williams, 1952
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radfemfox5 · 9 months
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so, funny story. Miss Italy just banned trans identified males. So to protest that decision, a bunch of trans identified females entered the contest. Admitting they’re woman…what a self own.
ICYMI: on the heels of a TiM winning the Miss Netherlands beauty pageant, the Miss Italy pageant has decided to limit participation to "women from birth."
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I hate beauty pageants as much as the next girl, but, I mean, come on. This is a joke. An actual woman who looks like this would never even enter a pageant, let alone win the whole fucking thing. The double standard here is crazy, and I think Italy saw the writing on the wall and decided to get ahead of it. Good on them, honestly.
So to protest that decision, a bunch of trans identified females entered the contest. Admitting they’re woman…what a self own.
Yeah, it's pretty comical.
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They're trying to convince the organizers that their definition of woman is inaccurate because these people are female "men." The thing is, paradoxically, they're proving the organizers right, they are nothing like men.
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So, they say this, but the featured image of the article is a trans man's application being confirmed.
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If anything, she'll be denied later on for being too ugly, not for being a man, as she stated.
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It's funny to me how TiFs ardently defend TiMs while TiMs either stay silent or are incredibly aggressive towards TiFs for having "male privilege." It's almost like gendered socialization has a profound impact on you even if you choose to identify as something else.
Where were the TiMs when female reproductive rights were being taken away? Oh right, they were busy calling us "uterus havers." Meanwhile TiFs were offering up their uterus to TiMs. Insanity all around.
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browsethestacks · 4 months
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She-Hulk #08 (2022)
Art by Jen Bartel
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photo-critter · 7 months
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A family portrait 🫰🏼
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