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a-pale-azure-moon · 2 years
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Amazingly, it took less than 200 orbs to get the last three merges I needed. It's so gratifying to watch enemy attacks bounce off his impregnable chest!
(I will be fishing for some new skills for him at a later date.)
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djtitus921 · 3 months
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randomnameless · 3 months
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Thoughts on this FEH Channel :
5 slots for inheritence is nice, Winter!Leader can be foddered for something else than her special! It'll open a ton of possibilities!
As for CYL...
After the nonsensical CYL4, I wonder if CYL wouldn't be "better" if they implement some "only 1 unit per game is picked" rule - remember how FEH was supposed to take Cipher's mantle and provide FE content outside of the release of main games?
Well... FE16 had 9 heroes for CYL, it has more than 1 CYL pick per year since FEH's debuts in 2017... when it was released in 2019! Where is the "representation for the FE series" angle and arguments when Fodlan takes the majority of the CYL spots?
I don't give a flying fuck about Bernie, and we all know Felix is going to have his FE16 post TS outfit - and I understand people to want for their faves, but at one point, CYL became "which Fodlan fave you want that is missing" instead of... well, the fanbase votes for the characters they like and the game makes sure, even if Archanea verse is less liked than Bernie, in the number of votes, it can at least send someone and we won't rotate with the same games for the winners.
For the first 3 CYL, 4 games were represented.
CYL 4 was where nonsense started, CYL 5 was unfamous for its botting but 3 games represented still (FE16 x2, FE Archanea and FE8), ditto for CYL 6 (FE13 x2, FE16 and Seliph), last year we had 3 games ft Sniddies (FE13, FE14, FE Tellius)...
And this year we're back on 2 FE16, an OC and FE13 units.
Yay. Celebration for the entire series my ass.
FWIW, thanks to this post we can get a glimpse at what could have happened if the 1 pick per game rule was enforced - not for the voters, but for the devs who pick the winners - :
Caeda, Berkut, (Katarina), Siggy, Leif, Lilina, Sonia, Lyon, BK, (Elincia), F!Robin, Azura, Alfonse, Tsubasa'n'Caeda, Bernie, (M!Barney) and Yunaka.
Bernie is botted, so Felix is out. Who gets the second place for the men's bracket? Siggy? Lyon? BK? Leif? Berkut??
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Also, fwiw, Mythic Engage duo (even if one is an emblem) is a nice kick in the shin at the Fodlan bots (19 600 votes - not 19 601 or 19 657, 19 600 clean), but I would have prefered to get people who weren't in to begin with, or at least, to keep the Lumera theme going on, Emblem!Siggy instead of Emblem!Marth.
Rip to Athos though, Gotoh being late on his desert banner was just an one time exception.
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dpsisquared · 2 months
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Let’s do the CYL4 winners.
DimiClaude, Dimigard, EdelClaude, LysiClaude and Lysigard? If that’s too many ships at once then how about Dimigard and LysiClaude?
Okay so you have brought up the only two ships that kind of fall into my dislike category. 🙈 So just a reminder that I have no beef with the people that ship them, more power to them and everyone should have fun with their ships. I'll answer quickly for them because I don't want to put out too many negative vibes. The main reason I don't like these ships is because I don't ship Dimitri with anyone but Byleth, ever. That's really what all comes down to!
Dmcl-- honestly I just don't really get this one. I don't think their personalities really complement each other. I worry about Claude's ability to fully open up to Dimitri, esp in the circumstances when Dimitri is still a king. However dmcl artists consistently draw the most handsome Mitris!! And I have several friends that write amazing dmcl fics so it seems like a very creative thriving ship so forgive my lack of vision 🙏💙
Dmgard-- I'll be honest it's kinda my notp. NOT AT ALL because I'm some kind of Edelgard hater, it's because I want them to be siblings 😊 I feel like both of them would get more benefit from family than they would from another romance interest. Besides that, I am a baby when it comes to angst and the ship (in canon) is necessarily tragic which I just couldn't handle.
Edelclaude-- I definitely see the vision after Hopes! I like the push and pull power couple. I think it would take a loooooong time for them to let down their guard, so I especially like the flavor of political marriage -> friendly respect -> love, to give them that time to grow together.
Lysiclaude-- they are funny together, I always saw it more platonic. But shout out to slotumn who has like 300+ lysiclaude fics in every imaginable flavor and is single handedly getting people on board with this ship. The sheer passion has me changing my mind towards them! Their end card is really sweet too. Not only does Lysithea get cured but she also doesn't have to shoulder the responsibility of being a noble or queen. 💙💙💙
Lysigard-- I like this one! They have a similar energy, maybe from going through similar trauma, but I honestly think it's just coincidence that their personalities are complimentary. They are both blunt with high standards, Lysithea even a bit harsh when she's riled. But I can imagine Edelgard just smiling fondly knowing Lys just wants the best for everyone. Shoutout to this amazing Gothic horror-esque fic that I think of often. (Mind the tags)
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thewarriorgoddess · 2 years
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WAHAHAHAHAHA I’VE DONE IT! I’VE FINALLY BEATEN FIRE EMBLEM HEROES
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While everyone and their mom is (foolishly) recommending +atk as B!Dimitri ascended asset, +spd will always be superior to catch null followup and dodge assholes off guard by speed demon Tankmitri ☺️
Lowkey the hate he got for his refine being so busted is hilarious when back when he first released everyone said he was the worst out of CYL4 although he was a very good duelist for dodge happy speedy red units (which were all over the place at the time) and not a fucking omnitank. Like seriously the FEH community thinks that if an enemy phase unit can’t tank and kill literally every unit in the game then they’re trash………. And then he gets a refine where he actually is an omnitank who takes 0 damage from greens and now it’s too much 😭 smh
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silverdrive92 · 1 year
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CYL's alts have been getting lazy, Fodlan in particular. The meme unit there only had a horn slapped on to him. At most, we can hope for a dazzling custom outfit of their class or a secondary weapon to pull from based on interests.
CYL alts have been getting lazy because the Devs themselves go with very safe options for clothes. Sure, we expected F!Byleth to get the Sothis Regalia because she's a girl and they want fanservice. But to have so many options for Brave Tiki and go with her younger outfit? Fodlan is actually excusable because at the time, we didn't have much for the Lords or Lysithea to take from in CYL4.
This year is pretty much the same, if a Lord like Sigurd or Leif wins, they have to get creative. Because Sigurd himself has very little lore to pull from, and Leif has at least 2 options for outfits being based off Finn or Quan. If Robin or Corrin win, the best you can expect from them is a promotional outfit like Brave Chrom or Lucina, and someone has to get the Hoshidan Noble outfit at some point.
With the Lord options running thin, and the 3H students now having an out with Ascended alts if they don't win, there isn't much we can do. This is a popularity poll after all, and the power in the end belongs to the masses. Ironically, it's all up to fate how this works out.
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emblemxeno · 2 years
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Ngl the CYL discourse this year is killing me. You have people complaining about Byleth being in Sothis' garb and saying she should have been based on her father Jeralt, while also claiming Seliph being based on his father is 'boring', and that Tiki being based on her young self is the worst thing that has happened on planet earth and she should have been based on her mother, while Chrom being a promoted class lance cav is a huge missed opportunity and he should have been based on (1/2)
his sister - but last year B!Eirika being based on her brother was boring, predictable and all around terrible. So what we can learn from this is that the fehdom wants Brave characters to be based on their relatives, except for when they dont. Easy peasy. (2/2)
I can see that yeah. Just coming from me, what I think is that people want to see something that isn't seen often, or that's so different to the character that it'd be interesting to see how they'd rock it.
Eirika being based on Ephraim for example? Kind of boring because we already have seen Ephraim's design many, many times, and Eirika was already being treated as attached to Ephraim's hip as it is. In comparison to Chrom dressing as Emmeryn, whom he's not as shackled to and with vastly different weapons and clothes? It'd be cool.
There's also the fact that, for a good chunk of the male characters anyway, it seems like they're genuinely afraid to step out of boundaries. Roy and Ike? Based on their fathers instead of important women in their lives. Ephraim? Based on his father instead of Eirika. Marth? Based on Anri instead of Elice, Caeda, Nyna, etc. Seliph takes from his father instead of his mother or Julia.
Aside from CYL4 (which itself is still the most uninspired and boring of design and weapon choices), the male winners seem relatively strangled by what they can wear, in that it's only "what you've seen them wear before" or "male relatives/historical characters". The women on the other hand? They get to wear clothes inspired by opposite gender relatives, designs based on alternate continuities, stuff like Marianne taking on dancer (for as unchanged the design was, it still was a neat choice).
And considering that, while it would've been nice to see F!Byleth dress as Jeralt, people should know damn well that because of IS's probable fear of emasculating their male characters, it's going to M!Byleth instead if/when he wins.
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crystalelemental · 2 years
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Somehow IS managed to do exactly the things no one wanted them to do for CYL. Sigh.
Considering CYL4 got nothing but “it’s so boring” complaints, and CYL5 was a fucking shitshow disaster, how is this the least bit surprising? They literally don’t know what they’re doing.
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shivershill2 · 2 years
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So CYL art is out and.... I don't care most of the time. Art is OK to nice and I have no real idea how good they are.
Tiki.. As expected. I am not a big fan of her adult version and expected IS to do this. "you force us to make an adult tiki alt against our will, so you get young tiki"
Seliph well, I had no expectations tbh. He should have been something else and not based on his father.
Byleth... This or Jeralt would have been expected by me, so that she got this, yeah kinda obvious.
Chrom, while his outfit is a legendary repeat, I really like his art and some people called him older Alfonse 👀 maybe that's why I actually dig his art and now I want Alf for the next CYL.
At least it's not CYL4 boring in terms of design.
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eirichele · 2 years
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I’m such a geek, I was legitimately so excited all day for the CYL announcement and was watching the live and it just got worse and worse 😭 Nothing will ever be as boring as CYL4 with the 3H lords just being… themselves post timeskip, but… come on! Boring Chrom #3, boring Seliph #3, A!Tiki alt but actually just Y!Tiki again… I hate to say it, but Byleth won this with the Sothis regalia, which is also pretty boring, but 😭😭😭
so true anon 😔 i was between seliph and tiki depending on how cool their alts were but im honestly so indifferent now? its really so boring i think i might pick the one with the most op kit and give it to ike or one of my crazy high investment tellius beasts or something. i do need a green dragon but idk her outfit was SO disappointing they keep showing their y!tiki bias even when its a!tiki??? im so sick of it
as for byleth damn like i had zero doubt theyd do sothis regalia but i was really hoping id be wrong and theyd do a jeralt inspired one 😔 i guess it could have been worse? the art is good and not that revealing and they made her eyes much smaller so its not that bad but trust me when i say that if they dont do male byleth in sothis regalia if he wins cyl i WILL be beyond pissed bc ive had enough of the f!avatar being treated like thirst bait while he gets cool shit to do. make him show tits too ive really had enough!!!!
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ajentmm · 25 days
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FEH Refine Theorycraft April '24
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Yah, it's Refine time. Only 5 this month but no biggy. We only get 7 with Legendary/Mythic Remixes. This has two "dark" mage girls, a beast bride, a fish maid, and~ Jorge. As always, click the link to those that I already made banner theorycrafts on for more of an explanation (as dated as they are).
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Nailah: Blessed Queen
Lvl. 40 5 ☆ 40/35/41/31/25          Max Invest: 50/45/51/40/35
Bride's Fang: Accelerates Special trigger (cooldown count-1). At start of combat, if foe's HP ≥ 75%, inflicts Atk/Spd/Def-5 on foe during combat, and if Special triggers before or during combat and unit attacked, grants Special cooldown count-1 after combat.
At start of turn, if unit is adjacent to only beast or dragon allies or if unit is not adjacent to any ally, unit transforms (otherwise, unit reverts). If unit transforms, grants Atk+2 and deals +10 damage when Special triggers.
Moonbow - Swift Sparrow 3 - Chill Spd/Def 2 - Glare
Glare: After combat, if unit attacked, inflicts status on target and foes within 1 space of target restricting movement to 1 space through their next actions.
Here comes the bride. Bridal!Nailah is an infantry beast and one of the last few with the old “+10 damage when Special triggers effects”. Her perf isn’t much different to Kris, but it does have a haft as useful Special Spiral effect. Since her 2 cooldown special is reduced to 1, it’s fine, but if you want more special nuking with the upgrade, she will need to inherit a Luna. And speaking of Special Spiral.
Bride's Fang: Accelerates Special trigger (cooldown count-1). At start of combat, if foe initiates combat or foe's HP ≥ 75%, inflicts Atk/Spd/Def-5 on foe during combat, if Special triggers, neutralizes "reduces damage by X%" effects from non-Special skills (excluding area-of-effect Specials). At start of combat, if foe initiates combat or foe's HP ≥ 75%, and also, if Special triggers before or during combat and unit attacked, grants Special cooldown count-2 after combat.
[New Infantry Beast effect]
So yeah, I just made her base effect Special Spiral 4, with Atk/Spd/Def-5 on foe. You do need to still trigger the Enemy Phase Standard condition for either effect of Special Spiral 4 to work though. Obviously, she can’t have DR piercing AoE Specials, but she can charge them up faster with transformed Tempo.
Enables 【Canto (Rem. +1)】while transformed. If unit initiates combat or is within 2 spaces of an ally, grants Atk/Spd+6 to unit during combat and deal damage = X% of unit's Spd when Special triggers (X = unit's max Special cooldown count value × 10, + 10; excludes area-of-effect Specials). If unit is within 3 spaces of a support partner, damage = 15% of unit’s Atk.
Hey, it’s that Canto thing from her other refine and her Hatari alt. Aside from that, she is going to be a nuke, dealing more damage based on her Spd, her max cooldown, and if her groom is nearby, her Atk. It’s likely overkill, but it’s her special day. Give her a skill like Beast Sense or Beast Agility, then get Spd Smoke 4 for Dodge status. OH RIGHT, she has a unique C slot that’s like Movement Smoke. Wish it was any better, but it works with her Canto.
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Jorge: Traveling Peddler
Lvl. 40 5 ☆ 45/36/27/35/29 Max Invest: 54/45/35/44/37
Daniel-Made Bow: Accelerates Special trigger (cooldown count-1). Effective against flying foes. Grants Atk+5 to allies within 2 spaces during combat. Inflicts Atk-5 on foes within 2 spaces during combat.
Ignis – Chill Def 3 – Atk Opening 3
It’s Jorge! Who? Yes, the highest bot farmed voted character not in FEH from CYL4 is here, for some reason. Just one of the two merchant brothers from the Telius games. He looks as attractive as an employee for an expensive clothe store. His bow is fine, too, Daniel did a fine job (mostly the Accelerated Special).
Daniel-Made Bow: Accelerates Special trigger (cooldown count-1). Effective against flying foes. If unit is within 3 spaces of an ally, grants Atk/Def/Res+5 and "guaranteed follow-up attack" to unit and allies within 3 spaces during combat. Inflicts Atk/Def/Res-5 and "prevent unit's follow-up attack" on foes within 3 spaces during combat.
If unit’s HP > 25%, Grant Atk/Def+5 to unit, Special Cooldown charge +1 to unit per attack, inflict Special Cooldown charge -1 on foe per attack, and inflicts penalty on foe's Atk/Def during combat = current bonus on each of foe's stats × 2, (Example: if foe has +7 bonus to Atk, inflicts Atk-19, for a net penalty of Atk-12.) Calculates each stat penalty independently.
So, this is just a powercrepted version of the effects. Giving both follow-up attacks and preventing follow-up attacks to himself and allies in an aura is a pretty balls effect, but can easily be disabled by NFU, so whatever. Then he gets Special Fighter on top of it. Did he need DR with 15 effective Def, and panic Atk/Def? Probably. But this is a Grail unit, and of a character that never fights in his game, so whatever.
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Lysithea: Child Prodigy
Hades Ω: Accelerates Special trigger (cooldown count-1). If unit initiates combat or is within 2 tile radius of an ally, grants Atk/Spd+6 during combat, neutralizes effects that inflict “Special Cooldown -X” on unit, and also, if unit's Special is ready or unit's Special triggered before or during this combat, deals +7 damage during combat. (Except when dealing damage with area-of-effect Specials.)  
At start of turn, deals 1 damage to unit. At start of turn, if unit is within 2 spaces of an ally or a foe, inflicts Atk/Spd-6 on nearest foes within 4 spaces of unit and foes within 2 spaces of those foes through their next actions, and grants Atk/Spd+6 to unit and allies within 2 spaces of unit for 1 turn. If unit is within 3 spaces of an ally, grants Atk/Spd+4 6 to unit during combat and deals damage = X + Y (X = 80% of highest total bonuses among unit and allies within 2 spaces of unit; Y = 80% of highest total penalties among target and foes within 2 spaces of target; excluding area-of-effect Specials). 
I am just now noticing that I didn't give an explanation for why Lysithea receives 1 damage at the start of turn. Tea Time Lysithea has Desperation 4, which required 1 point of damage, but this Lysithea has Lull Spd/Res. It's only useful when inheriting Escape Plan 4, Desperation 4, or Brash Assault 4, or having a Wings of Mercy 4 ally. I don't see everyone doing that.
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Julia: Heart Usurped
Dark Scripture: Grants Atk+3. If unit initiate combat or is adjacent to ≤ 2 allies, inflicts Atk/Res-6 on foe and unit makes a guaranteed follow-up attack during combat, and also, if foe does not have "effective against dragons," neutralize effects that prevent unit's follow-up attacks.
At the start of combat, unit’s HP ≥ 25%, inflict Atk/Res-6 on foe during combat, and also, if foe does not have "effective against dragons", and grant the following effects; If unit's Atk > foe's Res, unit's first attack deals damage = 25% of unit's Atk minus foe's Res during combat; if unit's Res > foe's Res, reduces damage from attacks during combat and from area-of-effect Specials (excluding Røkkr area-of-effect Specials) by percentage = difference between stats × 4 (max 40%); if foe's Range = 2, calculates damage using the lower of foe's Def or Res; If unit is not adjacent to an ally, unit can counterattack regardless of foe's range.
Okay, THIS ONE I made an addendum to. Originally, you still need the foe to not have "effective against dragons" to have all the effect in green after "grant the following effects", I then added the "Dragon Wrath" to give her more damage. This is better, but I might see it changing to just ture damage and true damage reducing based on Res. (you could just inherit Luguz Friend BTW)
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Lilith: Astral Daughter
Astral Breath: Grants Spd+3. Unit can move to a space within 2 spaces of support partner. At start of turn, if unit is within 3 tile radius of support partner, grants Atk/Spd+6 and the following status to unit and allies within 2 spaces for 1 turn: "Grants Special cooldown charge +1 per attack during combat (only highest value applied; does not stack)." If unit is within 3 spaces of an ally, grants Atk/Spd/Def/Res+5 to unit during combat. If foe's Range = 2, calculates damage using the lower of foe's Def or Res.
If unit's HP >25%, grant Atk/Spd/Def/Res+X to unit, deals damage = 15% of unit’s Spd, neutralize effects that guarantee foe's follow-up attacks and prevent unit’s follow-up attacks. (X = 4 + highest bonus on each stat between unit and allies within 2 spaces of unit; calculates each stat bonus independently).
Huh, so this was very much like Nah's weapon refine. We'll have to see what they give to her, and her support partner.
And that's it. See you all soon.
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cyl4 refines dropped and then I got a job interview femblem continues to bless my job searching experience
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tsukai22 · 2 years
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My guesses at what the Brave Heroes’ weapon and movement types will be:
F!Byleth: Sword Infantry, using a weapon called Snow Mercurius
This follows the CYL4 Brave Hero theme, where the house leaders each had a legendary weapon from Archanea that fit their primary weapon style, with the adjective coming from the name of their 3H routes (Flower Hauteclare from Crimson Flower, Moon Gradivus from Azure Moon, Wind Parthia from Verdant Wind). The only path not represented back then was Silver Snow, and Mercurius was the only weapon of the Three Regalia not represented - and conveniently is Byleth’s preferred weapon type. Hence Sword Mercurius. I’ve put a lot more thought into Byleth than anyone else. I’ll be very happy if this turns out to be correct.
Chrom: Lance Infantry or Cavalry
Lance is the only weapon type Chrom can use in FE: Awakening that he doesn’t yet use in Heroes. He can use Lances as both a Great Lord and a Paladin, hence the movement types. If he's an infantry, he could continue his theme that his Legendary self had where he becomes an overall stronger, but slower, Brave Lucina.
Seliph: Green Tome Infantry
Since I was largely unfamiliar with him, I looked at his ancenstry in the hopes he had a reason to use an Axe. Instead, I found he has lots of relatives and ancestors who used Tomes (mainly all the Book of Naga users), so Tome it is. Being a Green Tome lets him mirror Julia and Deirdre as Green Tome users, and - more importantly - is very handy for avoiding colour clashes on this banner.
A!Tiki: Colourless Dragon Infantry or Armor
Colourless isn’t used yet and she’s a dragon. ...Yeah, that's all I've got.
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narutsuart · 4 years
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El and Lysithea Meet the Heroes Artwork Set:
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Look at my girls! So cute!
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rivers-in-the-icons · 4 years
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Pink icons for the cyl4 crew
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tchewessah · 4 years
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he really wanted to make the joke
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