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#Cas would probably enjoy some of my music
octoberclidan · 1 year
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Why didn't you say something?
Pairing: Dean Winchester x reader
Summary: Dean and reader (she/her) don't get on, but when Sam can't join Dean on a hunt, he calls reader to go instead. When she gets injured, she hides it.
Note: this was written by myself for myself; there are probably mistakes. My first language is English but I'm not American, so it may sound weird in places if you happen to be American reading it. If you do happen to come across this and spend time reading it, I hope you enjoy it somewhat!
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[Y/N] had been hunting for a few years now, ever since her family had been killed by vampires and she had been rescued by the Winchesters. They had given her 'the talk', which is how she was introduced to all things supernatural. She learned that they hunted monsters and demons, and they saved people. If [Y/N] had known that vampires were real, if she had known how to identify them and kill them, if she had trained to fight, maybe her family would still be alive. [Y/N] had hunted ghosts and werewolves and shifters, even a wendigo once, but vampires were her focus. She had gone on several hunts over the years with the boys, she only lived a couple of hours away from the bunker. She got on with Sam really well; he listened to her, gave useful advice, and they worked well together. [Y/N] would count Sam as a good friend at this stage, even meeting up to hang out sometimes outside of hunting.
Dean was another story. He seemed to take a disliking to her soon after meeting. It had been Dean who had killed the vampires who had killed [Y/N]'s family and taken her hostage. It was Dean who had driven her to the hospital. That day he had been pleasant, sympathetic, caring, and nice. Sam and Dean had explained everything to her in the hospital, and before leaving, Sam had given her his phone number to call if she ever needed.
What [Y/N] needed had turned out to be hunting. She called Sam a few months later when she had recovered and had found a news article that sounded a lot like vampires. He had come out to see her, but Dean had been busy with something else. [Y/N] had been disappointed, she was looking forward to seeing the attractive hunter who had saved her life only months previously; she never really got to thank him properly. That news story did turn out to be vampires, and while Sam did most of the work, [Y/N] had been able to help out a bit. From that day on, she was a hunter.
[Y/N] had gone on quite a lot of hunts with Sam since then, but only a handful with Dean. Never a hunt with Dean without Sam. Dean always seemed distant from her; when she had thanked him for saving her he just shrugged and mumbled something along the lines of 'that's the job'. Over the years that distance had turned into dislike. They would argue from little things to important plans. According to Dean, [Y/N] was always too slow, or hadn't researched enough, or chewed too loudly, or had bad taste in music. She couldn't do anything without him making some snide comment about it.
It was a surprise when [Y/N] received a call from Sam asking her to help Dean out with a local case.
"You mean help you and Dean?"
"No I'm out of state with Cas at the moment helping him with some angel business, it will just be you and Dean"
"Have you asked your other hunter friends if they can help him?"
"I'm asking you [Y/N]"
"Is he aware that you're asking me Sam?" She heard him sigh on the other end of the phone. The conflict between his brother and [Y/N] never failed to annoy him.
"It's vamps [Y/N], everyone knows that's your thing, that you're the expert. Are you around to help or not?" Eventually, very unenthusiastically, [Y/N] agreed to meet Dean. The suspected case was actually pretty close to the bunker, she only had to drive about an hour and a half to meet Dean at a diner to go over what he'd found.
***
"You have to be joking. You are not Jody". Dean groaned when [Y/N] walked into the diner to find him halfway through a burger.
"Nice to see you too Dean". She rolled her eyes at him. "Let me guess, Sam told you it was Jody that was coming to help?"
"Wow, you know, sometimes you are surprisingly quick at figuring out the obvious".
[Y/N] took a seat opposite him. "Let's just try to get through this without killing each other?" She made a slightly disgusted look at him when he tried to fit the second half of his burger into his mouth in one go. What she tried to hide from her face was the strong attraction she still felt for him. Anyone who couldn't see that Dean was an objectively beautiful man would have to be blind. "What information do you have?"
"I think I can handle this one on my own"
"Dean-"
"No [Y/N], seriously, having you tag along will just slow me down. I'll have to constantly be looking over my shoulder to make sure you haven't done something stupid"
"That's not fair Dean. You know vampires are my thing, I've hunted more of them than even you have at this stage. I know what I'm doing, I'm not that helpless girl you had to rescue all those years ago. I am a good hunter, and you know that". Dean was starting off the insults early it seemed.
He just scoffed and turned to look out the window while finishing off his drink. [Y/N] sat back and folded her arms. "So? What do you know about the case?"
Dean rolled his eyes. "Two dead. Two missing, John Kane and Katie Niell, both went missing yesterday. I've already seen the bodies and spoken to the coroner, definitely a vamp."
"You thinking a solo vamp or a nest?"
"Haven't found anything to tie back to a nest, but you're the expert, right? How often is there more than one?"
"More often than not, they live in nests. So unless one was cut off from it's nest for some reason? You find anything to tie the victims together?"
"Yeah actually. They all graduated the same year from the local high school."
"So... maybe it's some revenge thing? Kid gets bullied all the way through school, becomes a blood thirsty vampire with the sudden ability to get back at the bullies? We've had this sort of thing with a wolf before, could be the same thing". [Y/N] offered. They sat in silence for a few minutes while Dean picked off the rest of the fries he had.
"Guess we better interview some families then. You take the victims that were killed, I'll take the victims that are missing. We'll meet back up later and go from there".
"Make sure you do actually meet up again and not decide to just go off on your own with only half the information" [Y/N] warned him.
***
[Y/N] was surprised to see the Impala waiting outside the house of the second victim where she had just finished interviewing, Dean sitting in the driver's seat. She was about 70% sure that he would've gone after the vampire on his own after he finished visiting his two families and that she would be left to try and catch up with him. She opened the passenger door and slid in beside Dean, who didn't give her the benefit of acknowledging her.
"So from the two families I spoke to, the two dead victims were definitely friends, but they weren't close with the two that are missing. Said the names sounded familiar but neither family think either victim would consider the two missing to be their friends." [Y/N] looked at Dean, waiting for him to fill her in on his side.
"Well the two missing victims were definitely friends with each other. I get the feeling they were part of some nerd group. Kinda like you and Sam. Their families were familiar with the two dead vics though, they said they were bullies in school. Bullied three kids, two of which are the two currently missing"
"And the third?"
"Went missing two years ago. Just didn't show up to work one day and no one's heard from him since. They said his name was Robert Harris".
"Think he's killing his old bullies, recruiting his old friends?"
"You know, if I didn't know you better, I'd say you were sort of intelligent" Dean smirked at her while she rolled her eyes. "Got an address off one of the missing guy's wives for the potential vamp, we should head there now and check it out" Dean started up the car and pulled out onto the road.
"You know Dean, you really don't know me. On the rare occasion that we're in the same place at the same time, you either ignore me or are just straight up rude. You don't give me the time of day". [Y/N] was actually getting a bit worked up and could feel her nose start to tingle, a warning sign that tears were coming. She quickly turned her head to look out the window to avoid him seeing; she would never hear the end of it if she cried in front of him. Dean didn't respond, he just started playing one of his cassette tapes.
***
[Y/N] had calmed down once they reached Robert's house. It definitely looked like no one had lived there in the last two years; the grass was dead, the hedge was overgrown, the paint was pealing on the front door, and one of the upstairs windows was broken. She and Dean stayed in the car in silence for awhile, just watching for any signs of movement. There looked to be someone in one of the front rooms of the house.
"You go around the back. I'll knock at the front, do the FBI bit and try get inside without any hassle. I'll call if I need back up"
"What, you want me to go around the back and just stand there while you take him out? No way, I'm coming in too" [Y/N] knew that this idea of Dean's was a way to keep her out of the best part of the hunt; decapitating some vampires. Dean glared at her but made his way to the front door, [Y/N] following closely behind him. Even though she was beyond annoyed at him in that moment, she couldn't help but admire him from behind.
Dean knocked at the door, and after a few seconds it opened to reveal a very pale looking man. "Can I help you?" He asked. Dean flashed his badge.
"FBI. My partner and I are in town investigating some disappearances, mind letting us in for a chat?"
"Now's not a good time, sorry" the man made a move to close the door, but Dean managed to stick his foot in the way.
"Yeah, not really asking". Dean pushed his way in, causing the man to stumble backwards. At the noise, another man and a woman made an appearance behind him, and [Y/N] recognised them immediately as John and Katie. Both Dean and [Y/N] pulled out their knives when, presumably Robert, regained his balance and snared at them bearing his fangs. When he moved to grab Dean, Katie jumped in to help, while John made his way towards [Y/N]. Both of them bore fangs, they had definitely already been turned.
It was a tight space in the hallway for two hunters and three vampires. Dean and [Y/N] fought back to back, preventing any of the three from getting them from behind. [Y/N] managed to stab John, causing him to fall down. In the meantime, Dean cut Katie's head straight off and was now shifting his focus to Robert. Robert lunged at him, causing Dean to take a quick step backwards into [Y/N], and she stumbled forwards onto the ground. She dropped her knife, and before she could pick it up she gasped as she felt a white hot pain rip through her side; John had managed to pick it up first and stab her with it, and was now wrestling with her, trying to sink his teeth into her neck. [Y/N] had almost given in to the pain when a splatter of blood hit her face. John's head rolled on the ground to join Katie and Robert's, Dean stood above her.
"You hurt?" He asked, holding a hand out to her. This seemed out of character for Dean, both the question and the helping hand. [Y/N] wasn't about to admit that she was hurt, even though it wasn't her fault that Dean had knocked into her. If she got hurt on a vampire hunt, which was her expertise, and Dean knew about it, she wouldn't be able to deal with him at all. Being a good hunter, especially with vampires, was all she had to defend herself with when it came to Dean.
[Y/N] swatted Dean's hand out of the way and tried her best to hide her struggle and she stood up. "No, it's not my blood. Can we just get out of here? My car is back at the last victim's house I visited. Can you drive me back there and then we can go our separate ways?"
"Now that is the best idea you've ever had Sweetheart".
[Y/N] climbed into the passenger side, trying to inconspicuously keep pressure on the stab wound in her side. It was only a twenty or so minute drive back to her car, but only a few minutes in and the adrenaline was wearing off. [Y/N] began to feel dizzy, her head felt light, and her vision was blurring. Dean glanced over at her when he was making a right turn and noticed that she had become quite pale and was clearly struggling to keep her eyes open.
"[Y/N] you feeling okay? You don't look so good". She just moaned in response. Dean kept stealing glances at her between watching the road, and he saw her eyes close and her hand drop from her side. "[Y/N], look at me, what's wrong with you?". There was no moan his time, she didn't answer at all and her head fell backwards against the front bench. Dean quickly pulled in and leaned over to take a closer look at her. He shook her, lightly tapped her face, but nothing. She was unconscious. He then noticed that there was a lot more blood on her top than the vampire would have bled, and he lifted up her shirt slightly to reveal the gash.
"Son of a bitch" he muttered. They were too far from a hospital this time, he would have to do something and quick. Luckily, he kept a first aid kit in Baby's glove box. He ripped her shirt to get better access to the wound, and grabbed a bottle of alcohol from the cooler he kept in the back seat. Pouring it onto the wound caused [Y/N] to flinch, but she didn't wake up. "Why didn't you say something?" He asked, not expecting a response. Dean did his best to stitch her up and put a bandage on it, which would hopefully stop the bleeding. He needed to bring her back to the bunker. Pulling back out onto the road he did a u-turn and began his way back to the bunker, calling Sam to ask him to get Cas back as soon as possible so he could heal [Y/N]. Dean was panicking, had he knocked her down? He remembered stepping backwards and bumping into her. Was this his fault? He tried to push the thoughts away as he sped down the road.
***
[Y/N] woke up to a dull, faint pain in her side, and a warm blanket on top of her. She blinked a few times, adjusting to the low light in the room. She felt a squeeze on her hand, and she smiled when she saw that it had come from Sam. He was sitting beside her with her hand in his and a worried expression on his face. "Hey, you're awake". He smiled back at her.
"Am in the bunker?" She asked.
"Yeah, you got hurt, lost a lot of blood and blacked out. Dean stitched you up and then brought you back here. Cas and I got back as soon as we could, and Cas healed you. He's not quite at full strength so it will probably still hurt for a few days, but you're not in danger"
"Dean must think I suck even more now, if that was even possible". Sam just shook his head at her statement.
"He was so worried [Y/N], once he got you back here he was calling us every fifteen minutes to ask where we were. You've been out for two days, he's barely slept, coming in to check on you at least every hour". [Y/N] was confused, that behaviour would suggest that Dean cared about her.
"Oh, you're awake" she heard a gruff voice from the doorway. "Cool, I'll leave you two to it". He started to turn around when Sam spoke up.
"Actually I was just about to go fix [Y/N] up something to eat, Dean why don't you keep her company while I'm gone? Help fill in some blanks maybe?" Sam stood up and kissed [Y/N] on the head. "I'll be back soon".
Dean shuffled awkwardly towards the bed and stood there for a moment contemplating whether or not he should sit down. [Y/N] motioned towards the chair and he reluctantly took a seat.
"So uh, how do you feel?"
"Like shit, but not like I'm dying". She looked up into his face. She hadn't seen that look of concern since the first day they met, when he brought her to the hospital, but there it was staring straight at her. "You saved me".
"I knocked you down. I let that stupid vampire push me back, and I knocked you down. Saving someone who you put in danger doesn't count" he looked away from her. "I'm sorry" he barely whispered. "Why didn't you say something? When I asked if you were hurt, why did you lie?"
"You think I'm useless, a bad hunter, I wasn't going to give you any more ammunition to use against me next time we cross paths on a hunt"
"I never wanted you to hunt. You could've had a life [Y/N]. You were, and still are, a beautiful young woman with so much potential. To think of you looking for danger and getting killed by some vampire or werewolf or demon... it would just be such a waste". This was the first serious conversation the two of them ever had. They had only been speaking for five minutes but that had to be the longest Dean had gone without insulting her.
"Saving people is not a waste. I'm happy with my choice Dean, and I am good at what I do. I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life. Then after my parents died, I was depressed. I felt like my life didn't have a purpose or a direction. That first hunt I went on with Sam, that lit a fire in me. It feels right. I can make a good difference to the world by killing monsters and saving people. Just like you". [Y/N] felt a sudden surge of adrenaline and bravery and reached out to grab Dean's hand, giving it a squeeze and smiling at him. He squeezed back and looked into her eyes. He never let himself look at her for too long. She was gorgeous to him, and bright, strong, fearless. Everything he admired all rolled into one. He knew if he let himself get too close, she would never have a chance of leaving the world of hunting behind.
What she had just said though made sense to him. Hunting was her life now, and she was one of the best hunters he'd ever worked with. Returning the act of bravery, Dean leaned over and quickly pressed his lips to hers. [Y/N] was caught by surprise, and it took a moment for her to realise what was happening before she kissed him back. She reached her hand up to the back of his neck, threading her fingers through his short hair. Dean touched her cheek, gently stroking it while he deepened the kiss.
"Hey I brought you - oh, OH, sorry, I'll just um, leave this here". Dean pulled back from [Y/N] to see Sam leaving a tray of food down on the desk in the corner and then quickly leave the room. He turned back to her to see a light blush on her cheeks, and he could tell by the heat in his that he was the same.
"I liked you the moment I saw you [Y/N]"
"Why didn't you say something?"
"To keep you safe. To keep my feelings in check. I don't know, I guess I'm saying something now, right?"
[Y/N] giggled and nodded, reaching out to him to pull him back in for another kiss. This recovery in the bunker was shaping up to be pretty good.
The end
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alltoowelltom · 2 years
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In That Dress (t.h)
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summary: y/n's costume at the Holland's annual costume party causes a little issue for tom
a/n: ok this is complete sleep-deprived shit, but i might have broken through my writers' block so yay! 
this is based off of a group costume with some friends last halloween, hence the names of y/n's friend group. it's random, but enjoy!
Boyfriend!Tom, Established relationship, fluff, hint of smut
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"I vote Scooby-Doo," says Meg, strolling over to the kitchen and opening up the fridge. "Are you telling me you don't see the likeness between Ant and Scooby? It's uncanny."
You sigh, glancing over at your friends spread over the kitchen table at Tom's house. They'd come over an hour ago to finalise costume plans for the annual Holland costume party this weekend, and not one plan had been made. 
"Do I get to be Daphne if we go as Scooby-Doo?" asks Angie. "Wait, what's their group name? The Scooby-Doos? Scooby-Doo crew?" she puts her head in her hands. 
"Mystery Inc." mutters Kai, scrolling through his phone. in the corner. 
"Okay, we can't be the Scooby-Doo crew because Angie's dyslexia can't cope with it." says Ant, rubbing Angie's back sympathetically. "Why don't we circle back to the Spice Girls idea?"
The rest of the group considers. 
"That's actually not a bad idea," agrees Meg. 
The conversation pauses as Harrison strolls  in, blinking when he sees the five people unexpectedly in Tom's kitchen. 
"Oh, hey Y/N, hey guys." he says. "Uh, I was just popping in to check- uh-"
You roll your eyes at him. 
"I won't tell him you were here. I'll just blame it on that racoon that he thinks is breaking in and eating all his food." you say.
He grins. 
"Thanks. So, have you guys sorted your costumes for Friday night?" he asks. "Harry and Sam are going as Gru and Dr Nefario, apparently they're the ones to beat."
"That's what we've been trying to do for the last hour and a half," sighs Ant. "Tell me, which Spice Girl do you think I am?" 
Harrison snorts, before realising Ant is serious and trying to cover it up as a cough. 
"Baby Spice," he answers quickly, blurting out the first Spice Girl that came to mind. "Y/N has to be Ginger Spice, by the way. Tom'll probably cum in his pants."
You clap your hand over your mouth as your friends laugh, wiggling their eyebrows suggestively. 
"Why? Why would he do that?"
Harrison shrugs. 
"He was borderline obsessed with her for a while when we were teenagers." he says. "Couldn't really explain it. Later, guys!" he calls as he slinks out the back door. 
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The music pumps from downstairs, vibrating the carpeted floor as you pull on your white knee-high boots. Nikki had been kind enough to let you and your friends borrow her bedroom to get ready for the costume party. Slipping a redheaded wig on your head, you glance in the mirror as Angie pokes her head around the door from the ensuite bathroom. 
"Y/N!" she calls. "Tuwaine just texted to tell us we're up next, are you ready?" 
You nod, applying one more coat of red lipstick as you follow her down the hall. Your group gathers on the landing, just around the corner from the top of the staircase. Right on cue, the lights go out, bringing a few gasps from the partygoers at the bottom of the stairs. In the darkness you find your places, posed as the group and giggling as you bump into each other. Somewhere downstairs, someone adjusts the music and ‘Spice Up Your Life' begins to play loudly. The lights come on and you strut down the stairs as a group, eliciting cheers and whistles from the partygoers. Reaching the bottom of the stairs, you pose one last time as Harry snaps a few photos, struggling to operate his camera with his fake Gru nose in the way. 
As the group breaks apart, Tom pushes his way to the front and brings you into an embrace. You don't miss the way his eyes take in your costume, his breath hitching in his throat at the tight fitting dress, glittery sequins making up the Union Jack flag and accentuating your curves perfectly. He rests his hands on your hip, careful not to spill his beer on your outfit as he leans in close. 
"You're so sexy in that get-up, love." he whispers, lips brushing against your ear. "Can barely keep my hands off of you." 
He peppers tiny kisses over your neck, pushing you gently to the side of the room. He backs you up against the living room wall, bumping into people dancing on his way. You moan quietly, threading your fingers through his dark curls as he gently ruts his hips into yours, hoping to find some kind of friction. 
"Tom! Y/N!" calls Sam, rolling his eyes and pushing his way through the crowd towards the two of you. "Stop feeling each other up in public and come see Harrison and Grace's costume!" 
He disappears into the moving crowd and you push Tom off gently, beginning to follow Sam. Tom doesn't move from where he's still facing the wall, pulling you back by the hand. 
"Y/N!" he hisses. "I can't go right now."
You frown, gently tugging on his hand. 
"I want to go see Harrison and Grace's costumes. Apparently they were coming as Titanic and the iceberg, and I’ve got to see how they pulled that one off."
"Y/N, I can't go right now." he whines, blushing furiously and turning to the wall even more as an aunt of his walks past, nodding at the two of you. You give her a polite smile before pulling Tom to face you by the shoulders. You bite your lip to keep from laughing as Tom pouts at you. It seems he was telling the truth when he said he enjoyed your outfit. The tent in his pants said that all too clearly. 
"You've gotta help me baby," he whines, attempting to cover himself with his hands. They're gonna bring out the food soon and all my family are gonna see!"
You rest your head on his shoulder as you laugh, trying to control yourself enough to assess the situation. 
"Do you think if we hang out here for a minute, Little Tom will go away on his own?" you ask. 
Tom shakes his head, turning towards the wall in shame again. 
"Not while you're in that dress." he blushes. 
You roll your eyes affectionately, glancing around to make sure no one's paying too much attention. You stand in front of him, wrapping your arms around his neck and shielding the front of his body as you begin to guide him up the stairs towards his old bedroom before anyone will notice. 
"You owe me, Holland."
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tysm for reading! reblogs and comments are super appreciated <3
tom's costume
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hotdamnitsmoony · 3 months
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what i think the marauders favourite tv show would be - based on my favs :)
james - stranger things. he’d watch it because everyone was raving about it and then become emotionally invested in the characters. he thinks the concept of the monsters is really cool but also very terrifying. he’d definitely make everyone else watch it too, and he’d be mouthing along the lines while they did. his favourite character would be steve harrington, because i think they’re pretty similar. the episode he’d like the most would be s4 ep6.
regulus - the rain on netflix. it’s a kinda disturbing show about an apocalyptic world where the rain literally kills you if it touches you and there’s a whole thing with sibling betrayal and i just feel like he’d eat it up. his favourite character would be lea or kira. he would really love dystopian and apocalyptic shows in general tbh. his favourite episode would be the cult one, because it explores religion in an apocalyptic world.
sirius - greys anatomy. i’ve said this before but he would secretly LOVE greys, even if he won’t admit it. his favourite character is addison montgomery, closely followed by mark sloan. the episode he likes the most is the musical episode but if you ask him, he hates it. also he would so do the superhero pose amelia shepherd does before her surgeries before he does anything important.
remus - the society. it’s a dark, weird and kinda obscure show that only had one season because of covid but he’d love it. he’d bring it up in conversation with everyone and ask them what they’d do if all adults suddenly disappeared, which would obviously have varying responses. he’d complain about not getting a satisfying ending to it all the time. his favourite character is sam or kelly definitely. he can’t choose a favourite episode because literally so much happens in every one.
lily - the good place. i’ve also said this before, but i just genuinely think she’d love it. it’s a show that she would watch while knitting or studying, because it’s easy to follow and funny. she’d definitely quote it a lot and it’d create some great & healthy conversations between the marauders about mortality, morals and death. her favourite character is janet!
pandora - a series of unfortunate events. she’d love this show wholeheartedly. it’s so messy and reminds her of the odd things that seem to keep happening to her. she’d know the “that’s not how the story goes” song and sing it all the time, though she’d change the lyrics to fit whatever situation or drama is going on. her favourite character is sunny, and she started wearing more bows in her hair because of violet! her favourite episode would be s2 ep3!
mary - desperate housewives. she would love the drama, the betrayals and the overall storylines. she’d know every little thing about it, from all the names of lynette’s children to mrs mccluskey’s backstory. her favourite character is gabby solis and she will take no criticism. her favourite episode is the one where carlos’ mum falls down the stairs.
marlene - glee. i genuinely believe she’d know every single big song and wouldn’t stop singing them. you hear “Don’t Stop Belivin’” being sung (badly) in the hallway? it’s marlene. her favourite character is santana lopez and she knows the entire monologue that she says to kurt in season 6. she constantly complains about this show but really does love it. her favourite episode is the klaine & brittana wedding!
dorcas - heartbreak high! she’d love the petty drama and storylines that happen in this show, and she’d so create her own “map” but put concealment charms on it because unlike harper and amerie she’s smart enough not to get caught. her favourite character would be ca$h or harper, and the episode she likes the most would be ep4.
barty - how to sell drugs online (fast)! this show is so hilarious and i really think he’d enjoy it. he’d smell the plot twists coming a mile away but he’d still love it, and probably make evan watch it with him. his favourite character is moritz because he’s just such an idiot and he sort of reminds him of himself, though i feel like he’d love lisa too. he would say that he doesn’t have a favourite episode because he loved it all.
evan - the umbrella academy. he would compare the dysfunctional family to the marauders nonstop. he’d love the way it explores time travel and superpowers, and would spend hours in the library researching if it was possible because he’d get hyper fixated on it of course. his favourite character is klaus (no surprise there lol) and he literally cried during that one episode in season 3. his favourite episode is the first ever one.
(as always, these are my own opinions!! i’ve personally watched all these shows and love them all very much!! this took a while to make but we move who needs a sleep schedule anyway. )
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Hi! Can I get a Supernatural matchup?
- My Pronouns are she/her.
- Currently a university student majoring in clinical mental health (considering switching to art rn).
- I'm an artist, writer, and musician.
- I'm an INTJ and I'm a rather big fan of having my own personal time to decompress.
- I have a more detached social style so I'm considered "hard to get to know" sometimes because I'm not super social.
- I spend my time painting, playing piano, playing video games, or doing my own personal research.
- I enjoy going to literature events like poetry readings, and I also enjoy going to art shows.
- I go to oil painting seminars regularly and have my own personal collection of fine art and poetry.
- I'm an avid player of Dungeons and Dragons (I'm a massive Baldur's Gate fan) and my favorite thing about it is making up character backstories and doing art of my characters.
- I enjoy the aesthetic of tattoos and plan on getting a sword on my sternum.
- My love language is quality time/parallel play. I enjoy doing my own thing while someone else does their thing.
- I enjoy civil debates and going to theatre. I enjoy going to musicals and plays.
- My favorite musicians are Hozier, Type O Negative, Flora Cash, Florence and the Machine, Lord Huron, and Metallica.
- My favorite books are Crime and Punishment, Dracula, Pride and Prejudice, and The Strange Tale of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
- I'm a big fan of snacks and snacking and I keep a (large) bag of pretzels and a redbull in my tote bag.
- My family calls me a Renaissance reincarnation because of my varied interests.
(I have a preference for male/masculine presenting characters)
Hello! Here's your SPN matchup! I hope you like it! <333333
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Supernatural;
Castiel:
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🐝 Who knew that already being friends with Dean and Sam would lead you to meeting Castiel - you had known the boys for probably more than a year, and then you finally get to know the man behind all of the funny bee stories; though you are not too social with new people/people in general, Cas is the same, so you both go slow and slowly warm up to each other
🐝 Once you both get used to each other, it's not long until you become good friends - Cas sometimes get caught staring at you by Sam and Dean, and when he goes to them for help on these new feelings he's having, Sam gives him advice; near the end of the seven months of being friends, Cas gifts you the First Edition of Pride and Prejudice
🐝 Skipping to when you both are official, you and Cas spend some quality time together - when you're not in college studying or when you are not busy in general; you often bring Cas to the poetry readings or go to art shows - and when not out and about together, you both paint or just eat a ton of snacks while listening to music (my money says he likes Hozier too)
🐝 If you need time alone to decompress, Cas totally understands, he'll find something else to in the meantime, maybe go find some bees...
🐝 Cas loves learning more about you, your favorite snacks, hobbies, movies, and so on, he could spend hours just learning how to play D&D just so he could play with you or have a conversation with you about it; he loves how passionate you are in the things that you like, and how kind and understanding you are once he got to know you - he just massively adores you in general
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hey, ur oc is super cool! got any hcs w/ them in adwd? i’d love to know!!
HI THANK U FOR THAT but yeah i have some:
His name is Sen btw! (where i basically got my name from)
Post will include these things: -Basic info about him (fav color, food, music taste, etc) -More detailed things (previous jobs he worked, body details like scars and tats, etc) -Hcs with them and grim (uses his actual name)
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Basic stuff:
-He/they pronouns
-Sennes is his actual first name with Sen being a nickname
-Fav color is this specific shade of blue ( 8BECFF)
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I can't even explain why he likes it he just does and thinks that's awesome of him.
-Fav foods would be those local filipino noodles (pancit canton if u wanna look it up) and that samanco ice cream
-His overall genre of music would be a mix of indie , jazz and, somewhat pop
-Fav artist is arctic monkeys or laufey!! (projecting here)
-He doesn't really have a style he just wears whatever he thinks looks good on him but it may range from vintage to things those skateboard boys wear!
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More detailed things about him:
-He's quite scared actually not sure if it was seen that much in that art but he has a scar across his face from accident (technically an attempt of casp trying to take his soul) from when a wine bottle fell on his face.
-On the note of wine he actually had a bartending job while he was in college to help pay for his rent. He's had some other previous jobs before this one and here they are in order: flower shop cashier > cafe barista > bartender.
-Honestly the job i was gonna give him wasn't in the list of jobs (psychiatrist) but if i were to pick in the list it would be mortician i just think he would probably kinda enjoy it??? because if you think about it being a mortician is like those asmr tiktok games where you give a make over to a zombie or smth...
-Tattoos! All over his arms! And on his nape:
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the one on his nape is inspired by a song called "crying lightning" by arctic monkeys!!!!
-He has a mole on top of his eyelid and freckles everywhere.
-Actually pretty buff as he can bench press around 291 lb (strong baby boy)
-He's actually had some self defense training from his parents when he was younger and picked up boxing and fencing as a hobby.
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Hcs with Casper!
-Like one of the options in the game, Sen would absolutely ENJOY putting little ribbons all over Casper's hair. He might even play around a bit and make him have goofy hairstyles (that Casper would KILL him for but we ignore that).
-He calls Casper "Casp" because he just thinks its really cute. Along with "Cas" "Buwan"(filipino for moon) and "Vinegar" (Teasing)
-Inspired by that convo in their official discord server, They would have a BLAST doing each other's skincare/ make up while listening to 2015 white girl songs!
-Following the one before this they would ROCK karaoke night.
-Sen is a avid music listener and would probably try and get Casp into so many other artists.
-(based on the game) Sen's teased Casp about his plush Azrael but really Sen has a whole ARMY of plushies and Casp REALLY gets back at him for that. Basically would go like:
"Your not really all BIG and SCARY with that plushie thats so PINK and CUTE!"
"Says the shithead with a army of plushies on his bed... seriously why do you need that many"
"SHUT UP DON'T SAY THAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN"
"THE CHILDREN??????????????????"
-Idk why but i feel like he would let Casp use markers to color in his tats!
-Sen would 100% bring him on a whole road trip to a more country/rural place to just enjoy the peace and quiet (Like one of those aesthetic vanlife tiktoks
-Sen is pretty decent at drawing and i feel like Casp would be too if he tried hard enough but i just imagined them giving each other lil drawings they made (could even be on little notes left on the fridge or little letters scattered everywhere)
-On those days Casp is in the soul sickness time will be spent snuggled in bed and having nice warm meals!
-Sen would probably always ask Casper for a sparring session because that seems like it would actually be fun! Plus we don't really know much about how Casp fights so... that would be interesting (he would be butt hurt if he loses).
-Their def a >:| and :3 duo
-I feel like deep in my bones Casper would probably like playing guitar/bass. So basically what im saying is they could sing and play TOGETHER! YIPPPEEEEEEEE!
nyways i think i better stop here because this list is getting LONG. And currently thats all the hcs i can think of.
THANK U FOR ASKING THIS AND READING THIS WHOLE INFO DUMP!!! YIPPEE!
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cosmicanemoia · 9 months
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A Minute More
Agatha Harkness x Reader
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SUMMARY
One day, you both eat brownies that a vendor was selling. You didn't know it had marijuana in it, so you bought a bunch of it and devoured it together.
A/N: Does not end happily.
You were walking round the town circle not sure where you should go next and you saw a woman sitting on a bench, you decided to approach her, when you came nearer you see her staring at notheing looking far away, you clear your throat and ask her a question.
"Excuse me, miss, would you happen to know where this is? I'm bad at directions, and it's pure luck that I even got here if this even is the right place." She looks at you with extremely creepy wide smile and strained teary eyes. You just shrug it off and start to back away. She probably doesn't want to be bothered.
"Hey hot stuff, where are you going? you came to the right person, I know this place like the back of my hand." You hand her the paper with an address written on it. She looks at it and stands up to go wherever the address says. You just follow her and on the walk over to the address she asks you lots of questions, some of it pretty personal and invasive for total strangers, she comes off as nosy but you didn't care you just wanna get to your new house and rest.
She stopped at a white picket-fence house "this is where the address say dear. I'm Agatha I live next door she said pointing to the house next to yours If you ever need anything just come a-knocking." She gives you a wink. "Will do. I'm y/n by the way, thank you so much Ms Agatha." You thanked her, "Agnes" she said and you move closer "what?" "It's agnes" she repeated, "I'm pretty sure I heard Agatha but if that's what you want me to call you, I will" "Oh don't be silly dear, you can call me anything you like" she said and you said "and I'm sure I will" you give her a wink and took her hand and squeeze it, "but thank you really, I would be lost without you, literally." You let go of her hand and take a few step back, "I'm heading in now, you should too or else you'll catch a cold, it's a bit chilly," you turn around and walk towards your door, after a few steps you turn on your back to look at her "see you when I see you Aggie." You now walk backwards towards your house and turn around when you came near.
As the days passed you both grew closer together. Closer than normal even. She'd spent a lot of time with you. You like your personal space, and Agatha also likes it.
You went to a park together, accompanying her walking the other neighbor's dog cause she volunteer but auddenly regrets it and convinced you to tag along. She tied the dog to a post and you both took a seat at the nearest bench.
You move closer to her and she did as well, you turn to look at her and see her already looking at you with such a sweet gentle smile on her face, you cupped her cheeks and softly caress them with your thumb, she hummed by the action you put your thumb to her lips, tracing its outline you move closer and whisper in her ear "you're so beautiful." You took your hand back and continue to enjoy the natural view like you just didn't admire the ethereal view. How could you look away from her and not give her the most passionate kiss? surely she feels the same about you, right?
She softly nudge your forearms and said in a lively manner "you're as beautiful dear." There it is again, that super creepy wide grinned smile with her teary eyes, like she's trap within her ownself asking you to free her, but that would be silly, would it? But even if she's really trapped, how would you even free her? So you did the only thing you could, the only thing you thought could somehow help, and maybe it did. You pulled her in a tight hug, it is soft and it is warm, almost freeing, almost.
She stayed at your house most times and when she didn't stay at yours you'd stay at her, watching movies, gossiping dancing to music being silly and all. She always cooks you good food and always care for you, you always care for her too much more than you normally would other people, but she's not others, she's something else entirely.
One day, you both eat brownies that a vendor was selling, you didn't know it has marijuana in it so you bought a bunch of it and devour it together.
You both are now high as the clouds, feeling so good, you danced your heart out, sing your heart out. When you both got tired you both dropped on the couch, you put your hand on her thigh not fully aware of what you're doing. "I'll get us water" you took your hand back and stand, she missed the contact and suddenly pulls you down, she's also not aware of what she's doing. "Do it later, just be here with me for a minute more hun," you settled on the couch following her request, she lays her head on your thighs and you gently play with her hair. She puts her hand on your neck and pulls you closer, your lips now just inches away from the other and suddenly the bell door rings, "I think that's the pizza you ordered," you said "right. I'll get it, you just sit here and wait dear." You shook your head in disappointment, and she sighs.
"Hi'ya hun, just came to see if you've eaten, cause I haven't... Maybe we could eat at the same time together," she said "Aggie, I was just about to order in, please come in. What do you want?" You told her, "you-" she said "I was thinking chinese, is that ok with u?" You answered oblivious of what she really meant, "okie dokie artichokie."
You both sat side by side in the couch, it was your usual movie night. Everything was just so domestic. You were watching a "romantic" movie and it gives you both the courage. You both finally did what you always wanted to do.
You finally kissed and WHAM! The kiss emits a rainbow glow travelling the earth but not as fast as light would but just like a cold gentle breeze in a summer night. The curse she was in is now broken thanks to you.
True love kiss breaks all curse.
One would thought she'd flew away, seek wanda and get her revenge. She didn't. She chose to stay with you.
She told you everything. From when she first became a witch, how she came to power, how she crave it, how it all backfired, and how she ended up being cursed. "Serves you right for being such a greedy monster" you joked trying to ease the tension and you pull her into another kiss. She chuckled "I know, hun. --Good thing, I'm greedy for something else now." You burst out laughing which she mirrored, you stop when she did, this is the first time you've heard her genuinely laughing her ass off, and you think it's the most beautiful sound you've ever heard.
You now have an established relationship. Living together for years, and you both were at your happiest, you have everything you need. Everything is perfect, or it seems to be, you both have no idea of the darkness that lurks within. Who are we kidding, nothing is ever perfect and no one could actually have it all.
One day on a rainy day you went out to buy groceries, she offered to come with but you refused and said "you just wait here my queen, I'll be back before you know it." You give her a peck on the cheeks and walk out.
You were on your way back and a black purple smoke surrounds you and you suddenly dissappear like a bubble dissolving into thin air, that it lived its purpose and you've lived yours. It's there and it's gone, you're there and you are gone.
Agatha doesn't feel right not going with you, she always convinced you to let her come, but today is different, there's something wrong, something bad, and she can feel it. She took an umbrella and decided to follow you to the supermarket.
When she got there, you were nowhere to be seen, nowhere to be found. She checked the security cameras and she watched, you were about to walk out the glass door and suddenly the computer screen glitches and you were gone just like that. She played it over and over again, but it doesn't matter how much cause it will never change the outcome.
Agatha went back to what she knew before you, dark magic. She'll do anything just to have you back.
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all-the-things-2020 · 3 months
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Deeds Not Less Valiant - Chapter Twelve
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Chapter Summary: Din and Tala get closer and a tragedy occurs.
Rating: PG-13 (nothing explicit but there is some touching and mentions of mild sexual arousal)
Word Count: 1975+
After they returned from Mandalore, things went back to the usual routine, with one exception. Now Din came by Tala’s place twice a week: once to drop Grogu off while he met with Greef, and once when he left Grogu with IG-11 so he and Tala could spend some time alone. Sometimes they walked through town, perusing the items for sale in the marketplace before selecting something as a gift for Grogu; other times they just sat on her couch, talking and touching. Din was more comfortable on the former occasions, but he truly enjoyed the latter despite his awkwardness. He liked holding her hand, the way she played with his fingers and traced random shapes on his skin with her fingertips. He liked the way she felt pressed against his side, her head resting on his shoulder (after he’d removed his pauldron, of course — beskar was too cold and rigid to be an effective pillow). And he loved feeling her hands giving his thigh a little squeeze, tickling at his ribs, or fiddling with the collar of his undersuit.
At first, he was reluctant to touch her, but she soon made it clear that his hands were welcome on most parts of her body. He still hadn’t worked up the nerve to touch her anywhere that could be considered private, though. It didn’t seem fair when so much of his own body was still hidden behind armor.
“I have an idea,” Tala said one day as they settled onto the couch. Din was wary, because she was wearing a flowing dress, not her typical shirt and pants. The dress had a low cut neckline and only reached the tops of her knees.
“Um, okay,” he said.
“I know you can’t take off your helmet, but can you remove the rest of your armor?”
“I … I could, but I wouldn’t feel comfortable,” he said. “I wouldn’t feel safe.”
She nodded and reached for his arm. “But if you took off these vambraces …” She fumbled with the hooks that attached the beskar armor to his undersuit. “And the pauldrons, then you could hug me better.”
All Din could do was nod as she carefully removed the beskar from his arms.
“And if you took off the breastplate, I could lay against your chest,” she said. “We could cuddle.”
“I suppose that would be all right,” he said. He was getting nervous but it wasn’t fear; it was anticipation. He helped her unfasten the breastplate and lay it aside with the rest of his armor.
Tala smiled and crawled onto his lap, her arms wrapped around his shoulders and her head resting just over his heart. He let his arms slide around her and hold her close. “There, now isn’t that better?,” she asked. He could feel her voice against his chest.
“Much better,” he replied. She was warm and soft and he just wanted to melt into her. Even with the thick fabric of his undersuit between them, he could feel her body in a way he hadn’t been able to before. And it felt right.
They sat in silence for several minutes, then Tala began to talk. “I miss this. Cuddling. I probably shouldn’t be talking about another man while we’re this close, but Rix and I used to spend lazy mornings in bed on my day off. Nothing sexual, just curling up and eating sweet buns and caf and maybe watching a holovid or listening to some music. Just being together.”
“It sounds nice,” Din said. He couldn’t help picturing himself and Tala in bed, warm and cozy in the blankets. His hand strayed down her back a bit, dangerously close to her bottom.
“Of course,” she said, wiggling a little closer, “sometimes it did turn into something … more.” She slid one of her arms around his waist, her fingers dipping toward the waistband of his pants. Din shifted a little to hide the reaction that was occurring in his nether regions. He didn’t want to embarrass her. Or himself.
“Um, that’s nice, too,” he stammered.
Tala laughed. “Very nice,” she murmured, nuzzling against his chest. “But we can get to that when you’re ready. For now, cuddling is enough.”
Din nodded, but he wasn’t sure. He wanted more.
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Tala didn’t want to push him, but she wanted Din to know that she was ready for whatever steps he was willing to take. Of course, she would have loved to kiss him, to feel his lips against her skin, but there were plenty of other ways a man could please a woman … and ways a woman could please a man. She’d thought about flat out asking him if he wanted her to touch him, but she knew it would embarrass him. So she’d opted for a more subtle approach. Now, curled up in his lap, head resting against his chest, she could feel him slowly relaxing into the embrace, and that was enough for the moment. She wanted him to feel at ease with her, with himself.
“I … I’ve never done this before,” he said suddenly.
“I know,” she said.
“I mean, I don’t want to disappoint you. I don’t want to do something wrong.”
She brought her hand up to trace circles against his shirt. “You won’t disappoint me. And you can’t do anything wrong. If you do something I don’t like, I’ll tell you, and you do the same. Not everyone likes the same things. Some people can’t stand to have their feet touched, or are extremely ticklish, or whatever. And you can ask for things. If I do something you really like, let me know so I can do it again.”
“I like this,” he said. “Just being together. Touching. Holding each other.”
“Me, too. But if you want more, just let me know.”
“Do you want more?”
“I do. But we’re going at your pace, Din. I have no problem with taking the scenic route, as long as we take it together.”
His hand slid from her waist to her hip. “I wish I could kiss you,” he said softly.
“Kiss me with your hands,” she said. “I’ll bet your fingertips are as soft as your lips.”
She slipped a hand behind him and pulled loose the hem of his shirt, exposing a tiny sliver of skin above his waistband. She trailed her fingers against him and she felt him shiver. “Just like this,” she said.
He hesitated, then raised his hand to her neck, grazing his fingers lightly against her skin. “You’re so soft,” he said. “And warm.”
“So are you, underneath all that beskar.”
He chuckled. “I’ve never been described as soft before. At least, not as a compliment.” His hand slid further down, shying away from her breast to settle against her side.
“You can touch them, you know,” she said. “You can touch me anywhere.”
“I … I know. But I’m not ready just yet. I’m enjoying this.”
“So am I,” she replied. And it was true. Just being held by Din was pleasurable. Knowing that he felt safe with her, that he trusted her … it made her heart swell. This is love, she thought, although she would never speak the feeling out loud. Not yet.
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Is this love? Din wondered as he felt Tala slowly drift off to sleep. She was so trusting, so vulnerable. He knew what I felt like to want to protect someone who was helpless but this was different. This was more like quiet times with Grogu, when they were simply together, existing side by side and everything felt right. Nothing expected of him, nothing to ask for, just a warm happy feeling that he remembered from when he was a small boy. Feeling safe and … loved. Yes, it must be love. But not the same kind of love he felt for Grogu. This was something fiercer, more volatile. He knew these lazy caresses could erupt into something closer to violence, something that could hurt them both if they weren’t careful. Something he was just beginning to realize that he craved, at least with her.
He couldn’t rush into it, though. Love was one thing; making a lifelong commitment was another. People fell in and out of love all the time. They made friends and walked away from them every day. As much as he wanted to bare his body and soul to Tala, he had to be careful. Taking a spouse is forever, he reminded himself. There were ancient rituals for taking a riddur, words that needed to be spoken and witnessed and taken to heart as solemnly as the Creed. You have to be sure.
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Tala got used to people deferring to her in the marketplace, stepping aside to allow her to pass. Word had gotten around town that she was “Mando’s girl” and no one wanted to risk insulting the High Magistrate’s number one ally. At first it was flattering, then irritating, and now it just was. Nevarro was civilized but too many people remembered the old days, during the Empire and just after its fall, when things here on the Outer Rim had been chaotic. Order had returned — real order, not the sham imposed by the Empire — but not everyone trusted it yet.
Which wasn’t to say shady things didn’t go on. Even Coruscant had its darker elements, and like most of the residents of Nevarro, Tala had learned to turn a blind eye to some of her neighbors. Like the Typhe twins, Maro and Haro. They lived on the block behind her, running an engine shop that mostly worked on land speeders and hover bikes and anti-grav lifts, but also engaged in some modifications that were not strictly legal. Every once in a while, an unsavory group would arrive, take possession of something bulky and vaguely menacing, and disappear, leaving the twins with a much more substantial bank account, judging by the liberal way they spent credits at the local cantina in the days following one of those visits.
IG-11 kept an eye on them, but they weren’t dealing in weapons or spice, and if their engines were powering pirate ships, well, there was no proof of that, and the pirates weren’t bothering the Nevarrans, so Greef was content to simply solicit a “donation” to the community fund when the twins were flush. And the twins were content to donate now and then, deeming it a business expense, and cheaper than paying off the Hutts like they’d had to do on the last planet they’d lived on.
So when Tala left work one day and heard an explosion followed by a cloud of dust and rubble in the direction of her neighborhood, she knew it had to be the Typhe shop.
Neeli! She ran toward the noise and confusion, fighting her way past everyone who was trying to get away from it.
“You can’t go that way,” someone shouted at her. “The buildings are falling apart.”
”My tooka,” she gasped. “I have to …”
A hand grabbed her arm and dragged her backward. “If your pet is still alive, it’ll be alright. If not, no use getting yourself killed, too.”
Tala slapped at the hand. “Let go of me!” She wrenched her arm free and kept running.
Her apartment building was in ruins. One outer wall still teetered in place, fighting gravity to stay upright. The rest was crumbled in a pile of plastisteel beams and concrete. Still, there were plenty of crevices where a tooka could take refuge.
I’m coming, Neeli. I’ll find you, girl.
She climbed into the rubble, coughing from the dust, her eyes streaming. “Neeli! Nee-nee girl! Come on, tooka-tooka-tooka. Neeli! NEELI!”
Her words were drowned out by the collapse of the standing wall, and she was covered in a shower of concrete bricks and mortar dust.
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nobodysdaydreams · 3 months
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Doug and Hera need to have their own spin-off comedy space podcast/sudden therapy be a regular thing, because there's no other duo I'd rather see confront Cutter outside of his office documentary style with cameras and mics demanding an explanation for his many crimes🎙️
(Or my reaction to episodes 50-52 of Wolf359)
Welcome back dear readers! It's been a long day, and I know it's been a long time since I've reacted so I thought I'd sit down for a little Wolf359 this evening. Please enjoy!
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Episode 50: The Hiccups Method
I agree Minkowski. When will Kepler get it through his head?
👏 No. 👏 One. 👏 Cares. 👏 What. 👏 He. 👏 Thinks. 👏
With all of Jacobi's sarcasm, I think he and Doug would have been drinking buddies in another life where things were different.
Poor Lovelace. I can see why she doesn't want to take the risk. These aliens are interesting. They called out Kepler for his violence, but they themselves have been extremely violent and hostile. Do they genuinely not realize how fragile humans are? Do they think humans can regenerate like they can so they don't bother being careful? Are they just not used to being careful?
Oh right. Because Hera has been taken over before too. She knows what it's like.
Hera deserves her moment. I hope she gets it, whatever it looks like.
Maybe they could listen to the music. Maybe that will draw the aliens out. They did seem to enjoy the tunes. 🎶📻👽
I mean...the brain IS like a computer...but it's not exact. It's way more complicated. And a "part alien" brain? Let's see how this goes...
Ah the creepy background music. 🎶 That must mean it's working.
Eiffel! Oh dear. I guess Lovelace doesn't do well with creepy silence and breathing.
I know that sound. A treadmill. My old enemy. /j /treadmills are actually fine, it's the pacer that gets me.
Oh no this sounds terrible. I'd be out. Bods would not be a pretty sight. I'll spare you all the details.
Keep trying Eiffel, I believe in you!
And it's not your fault Lovelace. It's none of your faults.
Well except Kepler it is his fault for sure. And Jacobi.
Kepler's idea would probably involve chugging some whiskey.
Oh this is bad too. I should have figured. Kepler would have probably hoarded the whiskey for himself anyway. Not to drink, but just to enjoy the feel in his...well feet now I guess since he um...could use a hand right now.
The aliens did make Lovelace pretty indestructible... except for the one that killed itself that they heard about...oh maybe they can self-destruct.
As horrible as they were, it would be way more useful to have Maxwell or Hilbert around. I get why they had to die. If you have characters who can explain things, you lose the plot. But it would be strategic to trade Jacobi and Kepler for them.
Oh they don't sleep much? Interesting. What happens when she sleeps? Do they take the data from her brain?
Alien duplicates have a more complex brain stem? Interesting. A more complex life support and control system.
Norepinephrine. I struggled to pronounce it to Doug.
So that would mean she needs the opposite of alcohol.
DOUG WHAT IS THIS PLAN?
HERA CAN IMITATE THEIR VOICES? That's kind of cool. I hope she uses that later to trick Cutter and Pryce.
"Complete the process?"
Cliff notes? Key inside is outside? Enter in order to leave? Douglas must what?
Do they want them to fly into the star? Is that why they tried to drag them in before? Is that what the aliens mean by "Kalabunga"?
They know that doesn't work with humans right? They've seen human bodies, they know that can't work right? Are they trying to make more human clones? Why?
Good work, Doug. At least they know what the aliens want now. Sort of.
Episode 51: Shut Up and Listen
Sophie has really been hyping up this episode, so I'm excited to listen.
I love these intros. ✨Hera✨, Captain Isabelle Lovelace the Second, all the aliases for Hilbert 😂 "Boom-boom wow Jacobi" oh my gosh the Kepler one 😂
Professor D.F. Eiffel. What is his middle name? What is he a professor of?
The Hephaestus files! I love the intro theme. It's very drama. UF Overview is good too.
Again with the dramatic music. This is perfect. I love Doug and Hera together they're fantastic!
Please Minkowski being the mom. "You're not poisoning anyone on your radio show are you?"
Man, Doug is never living down this "you poisoned yourself" thing.
Oh right the radio signals. The ones that couldn't possibly from 8 years ago, because no radio station has ever played old music before. It’s not like we have whole stations dedicated to music from the 70’s and 80’s.
Why are we listening to Kepler's opinions on the aliens? They already made it clear they don't like violence. Kepler tried to get violent and they chopped his hands off and talked down to him. These aliens don't really even seem to talk normally. Do they even normally communicate with sound?
The lion speech actually makes sense. You don't know what "that's a nice scent there" means.
But Kepler. You are ASSUMING that you can't get where the dear listeners are technology wise without doing horrible things. And even if that is true, you are also assuming that's where you want to be. Why are these aliens taking such an interest in you? Maybe they're desperate. You literally just said you don’t know anything about how they work, and now you’re claiming to know everything. Whatever fits your worldview I guess.
"Finish the process quickly" sure sounds urgent to me.
As for Maxwell's language logs, maybe Hera can take a look.
I knew it! Hera can understand it.
Math is math. There we go! And binary gives you yes and no. Simple, but effective for answering questions.
I'm sorry Hera. I know Maxwell wasn't here for you, but she was there for a while. I'm sorry she didn't make a better choice. It’s sad to think that if they made better choices in another life, Maxwell and Jacobi might have actually been friends with these guys.
"How to listen. How much have we missed already?" That's a good metaphor for life too.
Not the Goddard Futuristics sponsorship 😂😂😂
"Do you want to do horrible things? Do you wish more of your time was taken up by conspiracy theories? Are you tired of just being evil on earth and want to be evil 🚀in space🛰️?" 😂😂😂
"Experiences no other human has ever gone through" right, but Lovelace is technically not totally human. (no offense. Biologically I mean).
"The Doug Eiffel charm" oh goodness
"What could possibly go wrong" DO NOT ASK THAT QUESTION DOUGLAS.
The wonderful record scratch and future Hera. 😂
"Fancy meeting you here...in the bridge...of a space station...the USS Hephaestus" I can just tell Doug ran a comb through his hair and threw on his best shirt for this. And that’s all you need. Max effort. Charm to 100% 😂
✨my casual stance😎✨
smooth Doug, very smooth
"I won't record you without your permission" 😂
I would not be surprised at all if Cutter and Pryce have listened to 100% of their journey. Microphones hidden everywhere.
"Don't pull others into your sinking boat" you're all in the same boat.
Wow. Lovelace is getting real here. "What would Isabelle Lovelace do?"
Lovelace you are YOU. ...Aw, she wants to feel like herself again. You can still be you Lovelace.
"That doesn't work. You know why?" oh because she's not her? Eiffel? Oh no.
Oh Hera. He was afraid of Hera? Windup girl? Hal9000 impressions? Doug, they weren't just jokes, and you know it. That's why you stopped.
"People are always going to be afraid of me, aren't they?"
Ouch.
And Doug did deserve that slap. It know jokes are how he copes, but poor Hera and Lovelace.
...yeah that DID happen. And I'd imagine Doug has been MIA. He's probably ashamed.
Doug, they know you're not a bad guy. We all make mistakes, but you need to apologize.
Doug is not the best listener or good at remembering or reading subtext. Me too buddy. It's okay. Dang they really called me out with this character and I don’t like this part. Can we go back to him being funny and a good friend and the only person brave enough to point out the obvious “killing people is wrong”?
Minkowski's speech about how hard it was to change her language and accent was a lot. I wonder what she thought about all those times Doug mocked Hilbert’s accent and Nationality? It also makes me wonder whether the aliens are doing the same with them. Not the mocking, but changing their speech. Are they just trying to communicate or do they want to create a certain impression?
But this is getting sad. Why does this feel like a forever goodbye? I don't like that. I don't like that at all.
"That's the thing about you Eiffel. You try. You really really try. And then you stop trying. Don't stop."
Let's see if he does.
I also love that Hera continued the podcast even though she got mad at Doug. She's so sweet. HAHA...The Hephaestus Files, nice. Hera deserves that.
I love the exit music 🎶🎶🎶
I feel like this episode might be a good metaphor for the aliens and communication. Doug didn't listen to what his coworkers were really saying. Maybe the aliens are the same way. Who knows.
Hm. I should go to bed now.
Eh...one more couldn't hurt.
Episode 52: Constructive Criticism
Oh Hera's trying to take care of him. It's okay Hera, he'll get over it, he just needs time.
Good thoughts Doug! You're listening! Why classical music? What's so special about that to them? Maybe they don't have a concept of sound or music! Maybe that's what they came for! You're doing it Doug! Good job!
The music is what they are sending. The point is why.
Be careful, Doug. She cares about you. Your friends care about you!
Oh Doug. RUN!
What would he do without Hera?
Did Lovelace gag him? Is this Kepler or Jacobi?
...why does Hilbert's lab have it's own pressure and air? To protect the experiments or give Hilbert a way out? Is there a way to detach the lab?
Also, it was only a matter of time. Cutter's errand boys kept chiming in when they weren't wanted. I'm surprised they weren't gagged sooner.
"The rules apply to Eiffel?" I suspect many rules were created specifically for or because of Eiffel.
A game? Not Funzo I hope.
Huh. Fortunately, Unfortunately sounds like a fun story telling game.
The story will tell you when to stop. Or you get bored. Or everyone dies.
Well not everyone I hope.
Oh Jacobi was that kid wasn’t he?
A WEEK? What happened to Doug? I knew he'd be upset after what happened, but yikes.
I knew it. The NPR special. Doug's punishing himself.
Looks like Kepler and Jacobi are getting on slightly better terms. Don't like that.
Hera. Hera no! HERA!
Oh right. She doesn't want to do a full reset of her personality. She doesn't want to delete herself even if she won't remember.
Don't ask Kepler for his games.
Oh now Jacobi is upset. I wonder what happened to him during the last round.
Wait, the you can only ask questions game! I love that game!
"Run away while you still can" no thanks Jacobi I'll play.
Kill him, Hera. Ask him about his Whiskey.
Now here's a good question. How did Jacobi end up here?
Oh right...Kepler's too proud to stop the game. This is perfect.
So Goddard did some good things. Wonderful. But you can't kill someone, show up in court, and cry "what about the millions I gave to the orphaned children?" YOU COULD HAVE STILL DONE THAT WITHOUT KILLING PEOPLE.
And good and bad DOES matter when you talk about progress, because it determines what you are progressing towards. FORWARD TOWARDS WHERE JACOBI? ASK YOURSELF WHY DOES THE WORLD WORK THAT WAY? DO YOU THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING? ASK DEEPER QUESTIONS YOU SIMPLETON!
"There aren't sides. There's people you do things to and people you do things for"
So Jacobi would kill them if given the opportunity. Tell me something I don't know. Pity he wasn't interested in the redemption arc. I was hoping somebody, ANYBODY would reach for it. The standard is low. The bar is on the floor.
Doug just wants to be helpful. Poor guy.
Yeah Doug, I know how this feels. It hurts. It's okay buddy. It's okay. They're still you're friends. You’re not worthless.
Oh his poor stomach.
And...Hera wins the game! Yay! 🥳
That's a lot of music. But again, why. Why do they need the music?
I'm beginning to like fortunately, unfortunately game. Let’s try it.
Fortunately, Jacobi had a come to Jesus moment and decided to stop blowing things up and stop threatening to kill people...oh dang it Jacobi!
Should have seen that coming.
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would you mind doing a fiction where yn is a swifty she is dating wednesday and there talking about taylor and wednesday says she hates her cause of what Enid plays (me it's nice to have a friend ect) and yn turns her into a swifty by showing her the good songs(would've should've could've timt atw dear john) also could yn be shorted the wednesday
So I ventured slightly off of the request, but I hope you enjoy it anyways :) I also wrote this after taking a bunch of Nyquil so i'm fully aware that it's not my best work
Word Count: 700 Warnings: some Taylor slander, probably OOC Wednesday?
Let’s get one thing straight, Wednesday Addams hated all the music that Enid Sinclair would blare in their shared dorm room. So when Y/n and Enid were jumping and dancing to an upbeat pop song, Wednesday wanted to rip her own eardrums from their place within her skull. 
“I like shiny things, but I’d marry you with paper rings,” Y/n and Enid sang out simultaneously, holding hands and jumping around. 
“You two are absolutely senseless.” Wednesday groaned, knowing she wouldn’t be able to get any of her novel done while the two were dancing and giggling.
“Oh come on Wednesday, don’t be a sourpuss.” Enid groaned, still jumping around with the shorter girl. 
The corus came back around and Y/n pointed to the sitting girl as though they were in a concert, mouthing the words, “I like shiny things, but I’d marry you with paper rings. Uh huh, that’s right. Darling you’re the one I want.” 
Wednesday rolled her eyes at the short girl's antics as she went back to dancing with Enid. She would never admit how adorable she found her girlfriends antics. 
“Come on Wednesday, I bet she’s made at least one song that will resonate in that cold black heart of yours.” Y/n says a few days later, still on this kick of wanting Wednesday to enjoy the pop singers music. 
“I’ve already told you that my ears will begin to pour blood if you make me listen to that godforsaken bubbly music again.” Wednesday found herself in the same position days before as her girlfriend jumped around to ‘Lover’. Only this time it was only the two of them, Enid out with Ajax. 
“Please, for me?” Y/n pleaded, dramatically draping herself across Wednesday's lap and pressed her face into the other girl’s shoulder, making it hard for her to try and write her novel. 
Wednesday sighed, “If I say yes, will you get off of me and let me work in peace?” 
Y/n perked up and looked into Wednesday's dark eyes, “Really?” 
“Yes,” Wednesday obliged, knowing that she wouldn't be allowed to get back to Viper and her ‘adventures’ as Y/n liked to call them, “you can play the music, but you have to let me write.” 
“Okay!” Y/n was just happy that Wednesday agreed. 
She got up and flopped down on Wednesday’s bed, connecting her phone to Enid’s speaker and clicking the playlist she had made.; Wednesday Addams (Taylor’s Version). She made the playlist in hopes that her girlfriend would someday crack and listen to her favorite artist. 
Y/n laid in silence, watching her girlfriend type away. Carefully gauging her reactions to the songs, Y/n thinks she even saw the girl tapping her feet to the beat of the music more than once. 
A little more than an hour passed and Y/n waited for Wednesday to be done with Viper for the night. Wednesday carefully placed her papers together in one stack and placed them in her drawer, signifying that she was done. 
“So, would you rate these hand selected songs a ten out of ten?” Y/n asked as though she were interviewing strangers on the street. 
Wednesday rolled her eyes at the girl's foolish antics, “I’m not sure what I would rate them, but they didn’t make my eyes bleed.”  
“A win is a win.” Y/n smiles. 
Two weeks later Wednesday and Y/n danced together on the balcony in the moonlight, rain drizzling on their swaying figures. ‘Willow’ softly playing from Y/n’s phone. 
“Admit it, Taylor Swift has grown on you.” Y/n teased, grinning up at Wednesday. 
Wednesday wouldn’t admit it, but she had caught the lyrics of some of the songs getting stuck in her head. She had even begun to look forward to listening to the playlist that Y/n had made when the two studied. 
“Tell anyone and I will have your organs calcified.” Wednesday’s words are an empty threat, she would never do anything to harm the girl wrapped in her arms. 
“Your secrets are safe with me.” Y/n tucked her head into Wednesday's shoulder as the rain continued to pour and the music faded along with the rest of the world.
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I had a really fun time writing this one. I've got zero plan for where this month takes me, but much like Dean in this fic, I'm enjoying the ride.
This one is mildly spicy. I haven't quite worked up to a full M or E, so I'll go ahead and rate this one a T for now. Ask to tag!
Day 4: Wicked
Hunts are few and far between these days. With Chuck’s downfall came a few months with no paranormal activity, giving every hunter in the country a bit of a much needed break. Even though cases have begun to appear once more, Dean has realized that they are nowhere near the volume they were before they iced God. In fact, about half of the leads they chase these days turn out to be false.
Still, a job is a job. This is why, when a potential haunting pops up in Rhode Island, he decides to take the case. Dean shoots a quick text off to Cas. The angel is currently out doing “bonding activities” with Jack and Claire, who had shown up shortly after breakfast for a surprise visit. Dean shakes his head and wonders what they’re up to, knowing that bonding activities probably means at least one felony. 
From the looks of it, the spirit is not out for blood yet. Right now, it seems to be more of a nuisance for real estate agents. Whatever it is has chased out four potential buyers from an old house in Newport.
He raps on Sam’s door.
“Sammy, I’ve got something in New England. You and Eileen want to come along?”
He hears a muffled curse from inside Sam’s room, followed by a thump. Sam’s voice carries through the door.
“What is it?”
“A casper in Newport is shaking up the housing market.”
Sam opens the door, hair in complete disarray and a deeply skeptical look on his face.
“And you need my help for that?”
Dean sighs. “Tone down the bitchface, man. I don’t need your help, but I thought we could make it a family thing. Sue me.”
Sam unclenches and reaches a hand up to smooth down his diva hair. “Yeah, ok. Give me an hour to get ready.”
“Make it two. This thing ain’t urgent. No one will touch that house. Plus we’ve gotta give Cas and the kids time to clean up whatever situation they’re getting into right now.”
Sam laughs a little at that. “What, you don’t think they’re apple picking or something?”
“Not a chance.”
“Wanna bet ten bucks that Claire is somehow roping Jack into trouble and the kid doesn’t even realize it?”
“We both know I would lose that bet. Claire is evil.”
“She gets it from you,” Sam teases.
Dean will accept that. “I feel sorry for Cas.”
Sam rolls his eyes. “Cas can hold his own. He also gets that from you.”
“Yeah, yeah. I’m a bad influence on the guy,” Dean shrugs. “At least his music taste is better than yours. I don’t know where I went wrong with you, but you really put the hair in hair rock.”
Sam just squints at him for a moment, letting him sit with his own joke before straightening. “Right. Anyways, I’m going to tell Eileen the plan and get ready. Let me know when the others are all set to go.”
“You do that, bitch.”
“Whatever, jerk.”
………
Almost exactly two hours later, they’re all packed in Baby. Cas and Claire are in the front with Dean, and Sam, Eileen, and Jack are in the backseat. Claire has her own car of course, but it died unexpectedly in the driveway when she tried to start it.
“No I didn’t leave my light on, jackass,” had been the preemptive reply to Dean’s question. Claire scares him a little, but mostly she reminds him of himself in a not-totally-reassuring way.
As snarky as Claire is, she chooses to be a good sport and rides with them rather than calling AAA. Dean promises to fix her car when they get home from the case. Her one condition is that she gets to sit shotgun. Nobody wants to argue with her, including Sam.
They roll Northeastward as fast as Dean can go without getting pulled over, taking all the backroads they can to avoid major traffic. Dean has been on some truly long drives before, where the roads seemed to lead nowhere and the next gas station was easily one hundred miles away. He shudders, thinking of US 95 in Oregon. Talk about desolate.
But this one is shaping up to be good. He’s got all his favorite people in one vehicle, his favorite cassettes on deck, a nice and easy haunting to squash, and no big bad on the horizon. Hell, he even has money to burn on a nicer hotel for the night, and he will be using it.
Maybe I can get some alone time with Cas. 
He glances at Cas over Claire’s head where she has it buried in a book, only to find him watching Dean already. Dean smiles bashfully and hopes Cas can’t see the pleased flush rising to his face. Judging by the way his eyes light up though, he can.
This thing between them is largely responsible for the high he’s been riding for the past few days. It’s a wonderful development, truly, but it’s also very new. Dean wants to enjoy the honeymoon phase of their relationship just a little longer before they settle into things more. 
He knows, of course, that he’ll enjoy being with Cas just as much in ten years as he will in ten days, because it’s Cas, and he’s perfect even when he’s the most idiotic and infuriating son of a bitch alive. But he reserves the right to be horny and dumb about his partner when he’s in his prime.
So yeah, he’s booking two singles and one double for the night. 
Humming along the highway, lost in his own mildly solicitous thoughts, Dean doesn’t hear Sam at first when he pipes up from the back.
“Dean, are you listening?”
“Hm?” Dean very resolutely does not look at Cas right now. He especially doesn’t look at his lips. Nope, that would be a bad idea. He needs to pay attention to the road. 
“I said,” Sam starts imperiously, “that I was reading this article about regional dialect, and there was this link to a quiz at the bottom. It’s supposed to guess where you’re from based on your vocabulary. I think we should take turns taking the quiz.”
“Huh, alright. Lay it on me.”
Sam starts in on a series of questions, asking Dean how he pronounces different words and the terminology he uses for a variety of commonplace objects. The others in the car offer their own commentary, especially Claire.
“There’s no way people call a water fountain that.”
“Claire, you’re literally from the midwest. Have you never heard anyone refer to it like that?”
“I like that word,” Jack says, not looking up from his game.
“It is a fun word,” Eileen agrees. “Bubbler.”
“Sam, did it give you my social security number yet?”
Sam is frowning in the rearview, clearly puzzled. “Actually, it can’t seem to pinpoint your region. Your map is showing some similarity everywhere.”
Dean thinks on this for a moment before he gets it.
“Dude, we were raised on the road. You and I have picked up words from everywhere.”
“Oh, I guess that makes sense. So we have generic dialects then?”
“Guess so.”
Soon, Claire demands to take the quiz, and is the first one who gets a fairly accurate location, unsurprisingly. She’s spent more of her life in the midwest than not. 
Cas thinks the quiz is a waste of time (“I don’t think they have enochian in their database, Dean.”), but he indulges his family anyway.
“Cas, the results are showing your location as somewhere around… Kansas.”
“I do spend most of my time in Kansas.” His tone is dirt dry, but Dean can tell he’s secretly amused by all of this dialect business.
“You’re a billion years old. Have a few years in Kansas really made that much of a difference?” Claire asks.
Cas tilts his head, meets Dean’s eyes with intention. “Perhaps.”
Oh, he’s flirting with you.
Dean swallows. Cas can definitely see that he’s blushing now. 
……… 
Sam seems to be down a dialect rabbit hole today, telling them facts about different regions and how they developed linguistically over time. By the time he reaches a few articles about New England, everyone's a little punch drunk and overtired. Dean is determined to make this drive in one go. The others can sleep if they want. He just needs a little coffee in him, and he’ll be able to make it to Cleveland before he switches off with Sam. 
“Get this. People in Massachusetts and Rhode Island emphasize things they really like as ‘wicked.’” 
Dean snorts, startling a half-asleep Claire from where she’s been nodding off against his shoulder. She glares at him, earning an apologetic grin.
Cas, who has been “resting his eyes” but is seemingly aware of this conversation, murmurs a request for an example from Sam. Dean wants to wrap him in a blanket so fucking bad right now.
“So uh, imagine you’re eating a good sandwich.”
“I don’t know what a good sandwich tastes like, Sam. I don’t need to eat.”
“It’s just a hypothetical.”
“I personally like the footlongs from Subway.”
“Gross, Dean.” Sam pulls a face.
“The more inches the better, right Cas?” He winks at the angel. The look he gets in return is so worth Sam’s disgusted noises from the back. Half-lidded eyes track lazy and hot over his frame from the passenger side. Dean finds his lips suddenly very dry.
“I don’t know what you mean.”
Your face says otherwise, Sunshine.
“Anyways,” Sam coughs, “someone from New England might say the sandwich is wicked good or wicked awesome.”
“Doesn’t wicked have a negative connotation?”
“Normally, yes. But people make their own rules for this stuff, man.”
“After all this time on earth, humanity finds new ways to surprise me.”
“I’ll bet.” Sam chuckles.
“Hey Sam, what do they call a sandwich in New England?”
“They have a few terms for sandwiches. Subs, spukies, grinders-” Sam cringes, immediately knowing he messed up. “No, Dean. Don’t.”
“Grinder?”
“Please.”
“But Sammy-,”
“Stop.”
“I don’t even know her!”
Sam groans and buries his face in his hands. Dean for one is very pleased with himself. And hey, he even made Cas crack a smile.
“That was a wicked good joke, Dean.” Eileen, apparently not asleep, chimes in. 
“I’m here all night.”
“I don’t get it.” Jack is right behind Dean, so silent for the past hour that Dean forgot he doesn’t need sleep. Dean immediately does damage control to spare himself from Cas’ wrath.
But he’s hot when he’s mad.
Shut the fuck up, brain.
“I’ll explain it when you’re a little older, kid. Adult joke.”
“But physically I’m-,”
“Don’t care. You’re not old enough.”
“Dean!”
“Talk to your dad about it.” He means Cas, who does not look happy to be saddled with this conversation, but he forgets one important thing about Jack.
He is swiftly reminded.
“Which one?”
“The one who isn’t Lucifer, obviously.”
“You? I’m already talking to you.”
Dean gapes, just a little. He won’t get emotional about Jack seeing him as a father figure. He won’t.
Wait.
“Kid, you ain’t fooling me. You know I’m referring to Cas. Talk to him about it. He makes the rules.”
“Oh, but I was hoping you could override them.”
Dean’s mind is going down a very specific path regarding Cas and rules, so it takes him a second too long to catch up. Unfortunately for his overheated brain, Cas decides to intervene.
“Dean knows better than that.” There’s a suggestion in that rather confident statement that makes Dean go hot all over, the tips of his ears burning and his palms sweating. 
He really likes this, the back and forth routine they’ve got going on right now. They haven’t had sex yet, content for now to let things simmer while they get used to each other in this new capacity. They haven’t really talked about it either. There seems to be an understanding between them that they are both ready, and have been ready in some way for twelve years, but neither of them have made a move.
It feels less like first time nervousness and more like a game. It’s anticipation undercut with mutual responsibility and respect for each other. Cat and mouse, a delicate dance, etcetera. Bottom line is, Dean loves this, and he loves Cas even more. 
………
Sam takes the wheel in Ohio, and Dean passes out for a few hundred miles.
When he wakes up with a familiar crick in his neck, they’re well into Connecticut. The trees lining the freeway are a watercolor riot of red, yellow, and orange leaves and striking birch bark. He presses his palm against the window, feeling the chill seep into his hand from the pane. It must be early, then.
“Morning sleepyhead.” He’s greeted by a grinning Eileen, whose shoulder he has definitely not been drooling on this whole time. He knows immediately by the sing-songy cadence of her voice that she has a picture stored away for blackmail.
In the front seat, a ray of morning sun lights up Cas’ side profile as he appears to be deep in a discussion with Claire and Sam. Dean forgets all about his blackmail suspicions, breath caught in his chest and warmth percolating through his body at the sight of him.
It’s not even lust, is the craziest part. Obviously he feels desire too, but this is much bigger than that. Because for a moment, his sore neck and pins and needles and the other occupants of this car whom he cares deeply about all fade away when he simply looks at Cas. 
Goddamn, I want to wake up to see your face every day. 
He must’ve prayed it, because Cas turns to look at him with a smile so sweet, Dean swears his tooth begins to ache. 
Dean thinks, certainly not for the first or last time, that he might be dreaming. That Cas, grounding, charming, genuine, stubborn, perfect Cas couldn’t possibly be real. But when the angel winks like a dork and turns Dean’s insides into mush, what he does know is that what they have is too wicked damn awesome to ever let go.
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My Ideal Nightmare Time 3
Even though I know some people are getting burnt out on Hatchetfield (and I am hoping the next stage musical besides VHSCC is something else) I'm still looking forward to Workin' Boys, the finale of the whole thing (I hope they actually do it at some point), and hopefully a third season of Nightmare Time.
There are definitely some characters I'd like to see further explored in the Hatchetfield multiverse, so here's what my ideal Nightmare Time Season 3 would look like. I'd love to hear what others think about all of this as well as what they've been hoping for.
Minor spoilers for Nerdy Prudes Must Die will be discussed, but not until close to the end and I will provide a clear warning when they're about to come up.
I'm assuming this hypothetical third season once again has six stories, just like the previous two, so with that being said...
Becky Barnes Finally Climbs the Damn Tree: Look, they've been teasing us for years about this particular story. We know they have a song ready for it. And while it could end up just being a thing that's referred to but context is never given, I think this is the most likely story to end up in Nightmare Time, and it's the one the fandom seems to want the most as well.
A Story at the HFPD: The two most surprising omissions from the list of characters who have gotten a Nightmare Time story about them are Charlotte and Sam, and really, we haven't seen much of their relationship in general. I think it'd be interesting to explore that while doing a story involving one of their workplaces, and since CCRP has been featured in multiple Hatchetfield projects already, I'd love to see the inner workings of the HFPD. It'd be especially fun since we now have characters like Detective Shapiro added to the canon, and I can see her butting heads with Sam.
A Deeper Dive Into PIEP: Something else I'm surprised we haven't seen much of in Nightmare Time so far is PIEP. MacNamara seems to be a fan-favorite character so I'm sure we'd all love to see more of his life, like his husband and characters like Xander Lee (who also appears to be a favorite of many for some reason?). I could see this being the season finale, since the Black and White seems to be the be all, end all, of Hatchetfield's troubles.
Deb Has Her Own Drama: So far, all we've seen of and heard about Deb has centered on Alice and been tinged largely by her perspective. I'd like to learn more about Deb firsthand. That's not me saying Alice can't also be in the story (in fact, I'd really enjoy that) but I know in at least one timeline it seems they broke up so I could see StarKid exploring a post-split Deb and what she does with her life next. I'd also love to see Ziggs come back for this story since we know they have some sort of relationship as well. THERE WILL BE MINOR SPOILERS FOR NPMD FROM HERE ON OUT
Ritchie and Ruth (and Possibly Max/other Football Players?): Several of the main NPMD characters have already made their Nightmare Time debuts, and I think if another season were to happen it'd be likely for the others to get theirs. Not sure what the story would be, but it'd be interesting to see a scenario kind of like we started to see near the end of NPMD's first act, with something happening to make the two sides (nerds and jocks) get along. It would probably be whatever the horror scenario is making them reluctantly work together and then find respect for each other by the end (at least, whoever survives the ordeal).
Fuck It, Holloway and Duke Again: In my mind, it wouldn't be a Nightmare Time season without these two coming to save the day in some form or another. Maybe it could be after Holloway changed to Holiday and she has to deal with reinventing herself (likely not for the first time), but probably in a different timeline than Season 2's. Yeah they've already had two episodes as leads/major supporting players, but they still haven't appeared onstage (even though most of us thought they would in NPMD) so this can maybe make up for that disappointment. :)
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🎶period accurate spotify playlists, part 2
this time it's all about the marauders era girls! these are just my headcanons for what i think their spotify playlists might have looked like back in the 70s <333
i am fully expecting people to disagree with these playlists, but i put a lot of research into them, especially marlene and dorcas' playlists, since it's highly unlikely anyone will be familiar with those genres, but if you do give it a listen, i do hope you'll enjoy the discovery of some music from off the beaten path (like i did)
if you listen to any of these playlists, i'd love to hear your thoughts and your headcanons xx
lily: folk rock, mainly but with some track leaning more pop than rock. a lot of slower music, music that you'd listen to while reading with a cup of tea. i didn't do this on purpose but lily's playlist is a perfect bridge between the faster, more upbeat rock from james' playlist and the slower, melodic pop from regulus'. if you listen to all three, you'll notice an overlap in songs and artists with both boys' playlists. genuinely a complete coincidence.
mary: disco! dancing! good vibes! i think mary can be serious when she wants, but when it comes to music she just wants to dance, and let loose, and have a good time. not a tear nor melancholy note to be found in the whole playlist. remus and sirius think that they have the best taste in music, but when it comes to dj'ing a marauders party, everyone wants mary in control.
marlene: female-fronted uk rock, hazel o'connor and devil's dykes. this was a hard one because i found most of the songs i wanted on another website (specifically regrouping this genre) and then when i went to spotify 3/4 of it wasn't there. ah well. not many of the female-fronted bands from the 70s made it super big, but i think marlene would like that. out of all of them, she would go to underground shows the most, and she'd constantly be on the lookout for gigs and new groups. she supports local and she supports women, and i absolutely love that for her.
dorcas: avant-garde jazz, alice coltrane and yusef lateef. dorcas is an art hoe, and she is alternative as hell. i see her being really into jazz, but not for easy listening, no no, she likes jazz that sets her on edge, that she can disect, that makes her think. this playlist is a selection of some truly impressive jazz numbers that you've probably never heard of. best enjoyed with some whiskey on the rocks.
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“Dancing And Dragons” Eragon x Reader
(A/N: Oooo a Modern!Reader who knows martial arts. Now we’re talkin’!!! :D And capoeira??? Yes, please. Eragon won’t know what hit him! Hahaha. Okay, let’s go with a new concept—a fresh and different Modern!Reader that’s separate from the mess on my computer. Woo! So just a Modern! Reader. @coffencomputers I got a little carried away writing in dragons. I definitely recommend any readers to read up or watch some videos about capoeira. Warnings: Mention of kicking, but not actually kicking someone. Word Count: 962 words)
Alagaësia, a wide and magical land of fantasy.
So what the blazes were you doing East of there with a dragon hatchling nuzzling your shoe? You had no idea.
What you did know was that you were lucky to be alive. Out of all locations to pop into, at least you were near people and water. More specifically: Mount Arngor.
There were dragons, urgals, dwarves, elves, and a very confused Dragon Rider. The Dragon Rider who stumbled upon you in a clearing and chose not to end your existence. After a lot of fast talking on your part. Thank goodness.
Being in a world of magic when your memories of it were through words on a page was ore than a little mind boggling. It hardly made sense. So you left that bit of information out of any conversation. Sticking to the story of unknown teleportation was working fine. Vague, but believable.
The little amethyst colored hatchling pawed at the toe of your shoe. They were the smallest one you had seen. Cute and curious.
It was a wonder you were allowed to be near any dragon. You were still a stranger. Right? No one knew your favorite color.
“You know,” you told the little dragon, “I think it’s time for some movement.”
The little dragon tilted their head as they met your gaze.
“I can’t sit here forever. It’s peaceful, but I have to move around.” You stood up and walked into the small clearing. “You can join me if you want.”
They made a small snort.
“Alright.” You shrugged. “Enjoy your break from….Language lessons? You’re having those right?”
Tilting their head again, they sat down to watch you.
You took that as a maybe.
Taking a few deep breathes through your stretches helped ease your body from the sitting you had been doing. Nothing fancy.
Once finished, you really started.
Music played through your mind. A slow beat that kept you steady on your feet. Sweeping a leg just over the ground, you held control.
There were no competitions nor fighting.
The rhythm of your internal music picked up. You followed it. Felt it.
Rotating your torso, your foot made an arc through the air as your hand met the ground. Fluid and steady. You did it again. Your movements did not take you far from your starting position.
You smiled.
Getting into a rhythm was easier. To pretend there was live music helped. It added a liveliness to the movements. Fun.
When else would you be turning through move after move and kicks? At home probably.
Being in a fictional world, or what you thought was only so, gave you many reasons for outlets to relax. Sometimes the idea of where you were was a bit much to handle. Both the good and annoying. Time alone with your thoughts was important.
Even dragons needed time to themselves. Hence the half dozen hatchlings watching you go into a hook kick.
You supposed they needed entertainment too. Unless it was them feeding curiosity. Probably the later.
Whether you spoke, walked, or completely pretended to mind your own business, you were on the other end of someone’s curiosity.
“You dance without music?”
“WHOA!” You spun around.
Eragon stood with his hands up defensively. “I’m sorry. I did not mean to scare you.”
“Startled, but fine. Hi.”
“Hello.” He lowered his hands. “May I ask why you’re dancing without music?”
You rose an eyebrow.
“Not that—I mean—I was walking nearby and wanted to know why the hatchlings were gathered here. I haven’t been here long.”
Pressing your lips into a thin line to suppress a smile was seemingly more difficult than half the kicks you performed. To have casual conversations with the Dragon Rider were far more fun without the presence of judging eyes. Usually those who ignored everyone and had pointed ears. Knowing him more than he knew you gave you an unfair advantage. A fun one though. For you at least.
Taking pity on Eragon, you decided against teasing him with word play.
“I wasn’t dancing.”
Eragon’s mouth opened silently.
“But if it looks like dancing,” you chuckled, “then I haven’t forgotten how to do capoeira.”
“What’s that?” He asked and took a few steps closer to you.
“It’s a fighting style.” You smiled.
Oh, did you know there was a question or ten about to roll in. Eragon always did have a question for you. Literally, every day. That’s what happened when your home was nowhere near Alagaësia and he knew. Something you had to live with.
“Are there many styles of fighting where you’re from?” Eragon asked. A curious glint shown in his brown eyes in the afternoon sun.
“Yes.”
The excitement of new knowledge smoothed the stress from his features. From Dragon Rider to farm boy in less than three seconds.
“Do you know other styles of fighting?”
“I know of others. I’ve mainly practiced capoeira. I like how it flows. Between moves, you know?”
“Oh.” His eyebrows knit together, thoughts churning. Eyes looked elsewhere.
“It’s alright to ask.”
Eragon’s gaze met yours. A little unsure, but soft.
You nodded encouragingly.
“Is it effective in a real fight?” Eragon asked.
“Yes. A kick can knock someone to the ground. It might seem….unconventional in appearance or…a dance, but that’s the point.”
He smiled.
“And no, I will not demonstrate on or with you,” you said quickly. “I’d rather not be roasted.”
Smiling, Eragon tried covering up his discomfort at the idea. He was still getting used to your humor.
“But….then again.” You crossed your arms under your chest. “If we do it correctly, neither of us will even hit the other. Could be fun.”
The dragon hatchlings chirped and jumped excitedly.
Eragon stilled.
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9, 13, 24… and, you know what, 20 bc I’m curious 😂
9. What is your favorite summer activity?
trying not to melt from the heat! although this week has been balmy in the low twenties with rain on/off, today it is 17 degrees and raining and I'm not complaining. I made myself hot chocolate.
other than that, sitting outside in the evenings in good company and enjoying the long nights! haven't got to do that in a while and tbr it works better somewhere that isn't the south of England (by which I mean Denmark at the very least but ideally like Finland or Iceland) because the light lasts longer there.
13. What fandom do you consume the most content for?
at the moment?? I think I'm between fandoms?? I'm sort of poking at things here and there and just reading whatever I feel like across a wide variety of fandoms. Historically though, that would be HP, SPN and MCU, and also because of the sheer number of fics available in these which means there's always something there to find...
24. Current hyperfixation?
the caterpillars in my tiny herb garden. no for real, I have a caterpillar problem so this past ten days or so, every 30 minutes (when home and not in the office or otherwise out of the house) I go check for caterpillars so I can pluck them off. (haven't found any in 48 hours so maybe I am Free.)
I think the only other thing that comes close to a hyperfixation at the moment is my bookbinding spreadsheets, I have been re-organising my stuff and cleaning up spreadsheets to keep track of everything and now I'm at a point where there are no more spreadsheets that can feasibly be made. I mean, I probably could just invent some, but like, I am capable of reason.
20. What are the fanfics you’ve ever read?
...I don't know how to answer this question :''D what does this even mean :'''''D
you know what FUCK IT let's have the 5 most recently read fics from my AO3 history no cheating
so. we spacemen in geardagum by indigostohelit (https://archiveofourown.org/works/42430848) a Star Trek fic in old English (there's a modern English backtranslation in chapter 2). actually considering binding this one with the two texts side by side and ALSO transliterating it into futhorc. somebody stop me
Cas + Dean 4Ever by Tuesday (https://archiveofourown.org/works/66459) a classic! I actually bound this one the other day, just haven't posted any photos because it's a simple paperback experiment and I'm going to do a group post when I've got a few more bindings like that
Miss by mistr3ssquickly (https://archiveofourown.org/works/48372088) this is smutty Ballister Boldheart/Ambrosius Goldenloin fic
The Music Room by CinnamonAndPancakes (https://archiveofourown.org/works/38755788) this is smutty Metal Lords (Hunter/Clay) fic
Treasures by yeaka (https://archiveofourown.org/works/849107) this is smutty Kirk/Spock fic
the reason we're stopping here and not doing 10 most recently read is because the next 5 fics are just smutty Finn/Poe fic and look I don't need to air ALL my dirty laundry. if you ask nicely I'll link you the one with Poe in a gold bikini
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Suptober Day 10: Enchanted
Summary: Highschool AU - Dean is lovesick and Sam tries to help.
Sam had been sitting on his bed for a while, cross-legged, playing video games. Judging by the pain in his joints, it must have been a while. A glance at his alarm clock on his nightstand told him it had been three hours. He put down his controller and crawled off his bed, groaning when his feet tingled and blood rushed into them. He stretched his aching legs and back. He was thirteen, but right now he felt like sixty.
Carefully, Sam turned off his headphones. Although he liked the occasional video game, this time he hadn't played for fun, but used it to escape. Dean had been blasting angry music and then had been on an emotional call with someone. Probably Charlie, his best friend. And since Dean had been weird around Cas, his other best friend, for a few weeks now, Sam was pretty sure he had an idea what it was about. There'd been a new girl in junior year, a really pretty and popular one, and she'd taken a liking to Cas. And they'd been hanging out. Sam didn't understand the issue, they might have been just friends, but his big brother was in his own way quite a lot.
Sammy grabbed a packet of gummy worms from his candy stash and carefully opened the door to the corridor in order to execute his plan. There was no more AC/DC, instead he heard
I was enchanted to meet you
Please don't be in love with someone else
Please don't have somebody waiting on you
Interesting. At least he'd discovered one vital part of the issue then. Sam crossed the corridor and knocked on Dean's door. The music stopped abruptly, and his brother's husky voice told him to fuck off.
"Come on, Dean", Sam responded, his childish voice a stark contrast to his brother's.
"Tell Mom I'll do my chores later, okay?"
Sam sighed and opened the door to find his brother curled up in the corner of his bed, arms crossed and face turned away. On the ground lay a plushie that looked like it had been thrown away in a haste.
Sammy's heart sank at the sight. He loved his brother so much, and he looked up to him. Sure, they had their differences, but he could always count on his confident brother. And seeing him feeling bad and trying to hide it...
He walked across piles of clothes, records and various sports equipment until he reached Dean's bed, then carefully sat down on the edge. Dean only turned to look at him when Sam slowly pushed the packet of gummy worms over to him. He huffed out a laugh, then wiped his tear stained face.
"Thanks. You're cute sometimes."
Sam let that one slide for the sake of Dean's feelings. Instead he looked at his brother attentively, trying to find a good way to start a conversation.
"Do you want me to get Mom?", he started, thinking of who he would turn to if something bad happened.
"No, it's embarrassing", Dean murmured and ripped open the pack of candy, then went to stuff his face before offering Sam some.
"Did you call Charlie?", Sam asked, taking the worms.
Dean just nodded, looking exhausted.
"She probably told you to just talk to him, huh?"
"Yeah. If only it where that easy." Dean sank deeper into his pillows with a sigh, then frowned and looked at Sam again. "Wait, how-"
Sam just rolled his eyes. "I have a brain and eyes, Dean. I'm honestly surprised you even accepted that you're in love with him."
"And what are you", Dean asked sarcastically, "the resident love expert?"
"Jess and I are doing great, thank you very much", he responded, chest swelling a little.
"Milkshake dates and holding hands at recess, miss those days", Dean grinned and reached for a second pillow.
Sam rolled his eyes. "Dude, I'm thirteen. And I agree with Charlie, by the way. Talk to him. He deserves to know, and I'm pretty sure he likes you back. I could try to find out some things if you'd like."
Dean stopped mid-pillow throw attempt to tilt his head curiously. "You'd do that for me, Sammy?"
"I wouldn't enjoy it", Sam shrugged, chewing on another gummy worm, "but if it means he comes over to watch Star Trek again..."
Dean groaned and pressed the pillow he was holding into his own face instead. "I'm surrounded by nerds."
"Maybe", Sam mused, "considering you still hang out with Charlie, Cas and me all the time, it can't be that much of a problem for you. In fact, you might be just as nerdy as us under all that tough demeanor."
"I'm not Jess, no need talking all smart to me."
Sam kicked his leg in response. "Shut up! I'm trying to help. Although, I kind of enjoy the break from Rock and Heavy Metal", he teased. "Taylor Swift makes pretty good music."
Dean glared up at him over the edge of the pillow. "We will never talk about this again."
"You promise to talk to him then?"
His brother kept quiet, chewing his bottom lip. Was it really that hard?
"Come on Dean, it's Cas! What's he gonna do? And you're Dean, big-tough-cocky-confident Dean. You don't have to sing him praise, just tell him you like him more than a friend and you feel bad about him hanging out with...I don't know her name."
Considering, Dean nodded slowly. "I guess...I'll try." Then he looked up at him again, a smile on his face.
"Thanks, Sammy. I'll convince Mom to let you have ice cream after dinner."
Sam grinned, happy about the unexpected outcome. "Awesome."
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Episode 75 Transcript: Every Good Episode of Supernatural is Secretly a Menace to Society
[intro guitar music]
G: Hello! My name is Grey.
C: And my name is Crystal.
G: And this is Busty Asian Beauties, a Supernatural commentary podcast where I, someone who has seen this show several times...
C: And I, someone who only knows the show through social media, discuss every single episode of Supernatural from start to finish. Also, we are both Asian.
G: So, for today's episode, we will be discussing Season 4, Episode 15: "Death Takes a Holiday," written by Jeremy Carver, directed by Steve Boyum. We are back, baby! We're back.
C: Yeah, we're- we have returned. It's true. For three months, we weren't both Asian, and now, look at us! [G laughs] Both Asian again. It is nice to be back. I haven't looked at a man who was under 40 years old for so long. [G laughs]
G: No, you know what? When this episode started playing, I was like, giggling, twirling my hair.
C: I was like, "Holy shit, Sam's hot! Has he always been this hot?" [laughs]
G: No like, 'cause like, in one of the flashbacks, Sam has like, a very rosy cheeks, and I was like, "Good Lord! Sam Winchester, what happened to you?" [C: Yeah. Yeah.] He's so handsome. To all who don't know, we left BABPod for like, three months to do a Good Omens podcast [laughs], which was very fun, and with that show, I really did need to read the subtitles 'cause I couldn't understand their accents. And going back to the Supernatural is like, "Look! I can understand their accents. I don't even need to turn on the subtitles or anything." And so for a while, I just turned off the subtitles, and [laughing] I literally could not understand them. [C laughing] Like, I was lying to myself so severely. So I had to turn it back on again. Fun stuff! [C: Yeah.] I probably can understand their accent if Dean didn't speak like that [C: No, exactly!], but Dean does speak like that. So I cannot for the love of God understand anything.
C: This episode was fine. Like, I think I understand that it's probably on the- is it on the like, better half of Supernatural episodes?
G: I think it is. I think it is, yeah.
C: But like, I didn't feel particularly anything about it except for when Castiel was on screen! Then, it was the best thing that has ever happened to anyone.
G: You know what? 'Cause you watched this episode before me, and you were like, "Oh my god, Cas! Cas is here!" but like, I couldn't figure out, like, when in the episode. Also because I just completely misremembered this episode. I thought it was the Death episode.
C: I thought it was "Appointment in Samarra," yeah.
G: Well, no, I actually thought it was like, "Two Minutes to Midnight" or whatever that episode is where Death shows up. And I mean, probably you're thinking, "That's not true, because the fucking, you know, Famine still hasn't showed up and all that," so like, obviously, Death wouldn't have shown up yet, but for some reason I just associated this with the nice like, Death music cue, so when the episode started, I was like, "Oh, I don't think Death is gonna show up in this episode. Wait, where the fuck is Cas gonna show up?" So like, when Dean goes, "What the hell?" [C: Yeah!] And Cas goes, "Guess again," I was screaming, I was cheering, I was like, "He's here." It is so wonderful to see Cas again. Like, it is wonderful to see Sam again. It's a bit wonderful to see Dean again; honestly, I was very enthused by him this episode.
C: Really?
G: Yeah, unfortunately. For the audience-
C: He loved making three sexual assault jokes in a row, though. He definitely enjoyed doing that.
G: He definitely did. I did- like, when he did the Demi Moore joke, I was like, "He's back! He's here, on my screen, right now." But like, for real, though, I legitimately had so many moments throughout the three months where I would just sit down and like, think about Supernatural and be like, “I hauve Covid.” [C laughs] Like, it's crazy how much distance makes the heart grow fonder. I was like, thinking about these men and jeans and everything.
C: I wasn't, but it's nice to see them again.
G: November 5 happened while we were away, and so that was on my mind and my timeline. But also, like, I don't know, for some reason, like, I was thinking about Season 1 specifically, and how fond I was in Season 1 and everything.
C: Yeah? 'Cause it's probably bad.
G: No like, but every time I think of Season 1, I'm like, "What a wonderful time that was. It was such an amazing time watching Season 1 of Supernatural." And then, I think back to actually watching Season 1 of Supernatural, and it was literally not a good time.
C: What was the post about high school that you reference sometimes?
G: "I was so happy in high school. I mean, in the moment I wasn't. But in retrospect, I was." [C laughing] Like, that's how I feel about Season 1 of Supernatural.
C: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you can only be fond of it because you don't have to do it again, I think.
G: Yeah, that's true.
C: Are you gonna ask what I thought was gonna happen this episode?
G: Oh, yeah! So what do you think was going to happen this episode, Crystal, before you knew it or seen it or everything?
C: Yeah. So I knew that there was an episode in Supernatural where Dean has to take over for Death and like, wear Death's ring or whatever for a day. And judging from the title of this episode, I thought that this was that episode. That turned out to not be the case. I also know that there is an episode where, like, Death eats pizza with them [G: Chicago-style.], and I thought that this would be the episode, and it wasn't. [laughs] Nothing that happened in this episode is something that I was aware of beforehand. Besides the "What the hell?" "Guess again."
G: You know what? Me too. That is also the exact same thoughts about this episode that I possessed prior to watching it. I thought it was literally every other episode that involves a reaper. [laughs] And then it wasn't. And also, Cas is there.
C: We haven't seen him since 4.10. No wonder we quit.
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G: We start off- Okay. "Then" sequence.
C: Wait, are we doing the "Then" sequence? Yeah. 'Cause it's been a while!
G: What are your thoughts on the "Then" sequence? Been a while for us. It's really been a while.
C: And for the listeners! My only thought about the event sequence is that it's incredibly funny that, in the voiceover, when Sam says, "I'm a better hunter-"
G: [laughing] Yeah!
C: "- stronger, smarter," on "smarter," he's fucking Cara. [both laughing] Like, okay!
G: So true. I support her. And he literally is thinking with his dick, probably.
C: Yeah, "If you were smart, you would have sex with someone during the 'man has sex with someone and starts murdering people' case." [G laughs] You're so right.
G: I can't believe that was last episode. I mean, I can, given the stuff that they say about it in this scene, but I also cannot. So we have the teaser portion. You know what? 'Cause we've been away from Supernatural, and we've been away from this kind of TV for a while, you know, like, this kind of show. I miss this kind of format on a TV show. It's so like- it means nothing. [laughs] But it means everything to me. [C: To you.] Yeah, we start the episode with two guys, like, leaving a bar, and they're talking about fantasy football, just, you know, fun banter. For them. For me, it means absolutely nothing. [C laughs] And then a guy like, shows up in front of them, asking for change. They say no, guy pulls out a gun. There's like, an employee at the back of the bar like, throwing trash [laughs] into the trash bin. He sees all this happening [laughs], and he decides that what needs to be done is that he's going to slam that trash bin cover so loud and so raw and startle the guy with the gun. [C: Yup.] I just- I cannot figure out the logic behind this action.
C: I think it was- it looked like the employee was just like, also startled. Like, it was like, not intentional.
G: He wasn't!
C: He's quite frozen.
G: Ah, okay. I understand. It's less "startled," I guess, and more like, his attention has turned to this and his hand, like, slips or something.
C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess that's what I meant.
G: Well, whatever. This startles the guy with the gun, and he pulls the trigger, shoots the guy, and, you know, there's like, a very long and arduous CPR scene [laughs] where one of the guys tries to CPR the other guy.
C: It's not even that arduous. Yeah, yeah. It's very lowkey.
G: But I- I don't think you should do that! [laughs] First of all, like, he got shot in the heart, [C laughing] and we like, we know this for a fact 'cause like, it says in this script that he got shot in the heart.
C: Yeah, let's shove more of that blood out, baby! Let's go!
G: [laughing] And this guy's solution to this very glaring problem is to put continuous pressure on his heart. Like, to pump his heart? What's wrong with you?
C: I mean, maybe- I guess I don't know that you're not supposed to do that. Like, are we spreading misinformation about emergency medical care? Okay, I'm gonna look up "CPR after being shot in the heart." [laughs]
G: CPR is for like, when there's no air going around, so like, the blood- the heart has stopped pumping. But I feel like if the heart is the issue, like, if your heart is like, damaged-
C: Yeah, it seems like you're not really supposed to use it for a gunshot victim unless they've stopped breathing, but even then, I think perhaps not if they've been shot in the heart.
G: [laughs] In the heart, yeah.
C: But I mean, maybe like, the friend didn't notice where he'd been shot? Like, it is just a panic response. It's not bleeding, so like, how would they know?
G: Yeah. First of all, it's not bleeding. Second of all, like, there is a bit of an inconsistency, because when the guy does show the bullet wound or whatever that was, it was in a different place. Like, it's like, a little bit like, in the stomachy area. So okay, fine. [C: Yeah.] This guy's like, "I'm alive!" I mean, the guy wakes up and is like, "Stop trying to kiss me, bro." [laughing] And then, yeah, he's like, "I'm alive. Amazing. Can you believe it? It's a miracle." He doesn't say, "It's a miracle." He says it later. But you know. Wow! Miracle. And then, you know, 'cause I know that, like, this is the splash screen for the season, but also, I forgot. So when it happened, I was like, "Good Lord! [laughs] Okay!" We're going at it this season.
C: The screaming?
G: Yeah, the scream, the flappy wings. It's the angel season!
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C: So we're at a diner, and Sam's on the phone with Bobby. apparently, Bobby's found them a case in Wyoming, where no one has died in this small town in the past week and a half, but like, in a weird way. People with like, terminal cancer are totally fine. Some other guy got shot, you know, point-blank in the heart, and he was fine. And the whole time Dean is just like, affecting like, he's not as invested in this or whatever as he normally would be.
G: First of all, I want to point out that later on in this episode, Cas reveals that Sam is not talking to Bobby, he's talking to Cas.
C: Well, I thought it was later- Ohh. At the very beginning? Okay. For some reason, I thought that Sam just called as Bobby for the [G: Later, yeah.] update about Revelations, about the seal, but you're right. I think when he said, like, "I recruited you guys," I think he means that [laughing] currently, right now, he's faking Bobby's voice on the phone.
G: That's such a funny thought to me!
C: It's hilarious.
G: Because It's not just like, voice. Like, there's a cadence to it. There's like, a way Bobby speaks.
C: Yeah, was he practicing in front of the mirror?
G: Like, how does it work? Is it like, he just gains, like, all of Bobby's speech patterns and all Bobby's intrinsic pop culture knowledge that he references when he speaks. How does that work?
C: Yeah, 'cause, okay, I have seen a clip where Anna like, uses John's boss's voice [G: Yes, yes, yes.] in "The Song Remains the Same." [G: The Season 5- yeah.] So I guess angels are just able to have other voices. I don't know. I think he just practices a bit. Or, I don't know. Maybe Cobby is real. Who knows?
G: Maybe Cobby is real.
C: It's cute that he called Sam. I mean, I know that Bobby is always the one who just calls Sam 'cause Sam's his work friend and Dean's his child [G: Yeah.], but yeah, maybe Sastiel's real also.
Sam says that, you know, people are calling it a miracle, but it's probably something nasty, like people making deals. Again, Dean's just not engaging with Sam, like, "Okay-"
G: [laughing] What is so funny- I didn't realize that Dean was not engaging, like- Like, I thought he wasn't engaging because he was focused on eating. So when Sam goes like, "Come on," and like, does he say, like, "Take that out" or something?
C: Like, "Get that to go," yeah.
G: Yeah yeah yeah. And so like, when he says that, Dean like, stops eating, like, he slows down his chewing and everything, and [laughing] then the sad piano music starts playing [C laughing], and I legitimately just thought that he was upset that Sam was asking him to take the food out.
C: Soo true!
G: It goes on for so long. The piano music goes on for so long, and Sam's just standing there for so long, and Dean is just not talking for so long, and so I spent so long also just thinking [laughs], "He's so upset about this fucking takeout situation. He doesn't want to put this thing on a styrofoam container."
C: Exactly. Exactly. It deserves the ceramic plate it's been on. Yeah. So that's the end of the great love story between Dean and this burger, whatever it was.
G: Yeah. Court her. Pound her. [both laughing]
C: Yeah. So true!
G: Amazing joke, yeah. It's court her, pound her.
C: Yeah, if we're doing #mentioned for BABPod nowadays, should we just read what that full post is and then reblog it?
G: [laughing] That's the entire post! The entire post is "call me a burger the way i court her. pound her."
C: So true!
So yeah, Sam's like, about to head out, but Dean is still sitting there and eating, and then he goes, "You sure you want me going with you?" and Sam's like, "Huh?" And he's like, "I don't want to be holding you back or nothing." And Sam says that he's told him a hundred times that "That was the siren talking, not me." 'Cause we leave off 4.14 with Sam being like, "So we're good?" and Dean being like, "Yeah, we're good," but apparently, in the last week, like, every single chance he gets, Dean's like, "Well, I guess that's just 'cause you're smarter and stronger than me, huh?" [G laughs] And Sam's had to be like, "No, I didn't mean it!" Hilarious.
G: No but like- I know we mentioned it last episode, I think, Dean's gripes towards Sam that episode could like, reasonably be thought of as like, the siren talking, but, like, Sam's gripes are so real, you know? Like, those are actual things he thought about.
C: Wait, I thought it was the other way around.
G: Is that- do we say that? I have forgotten.
C: No, Dean's gripes are, "I can't trust you anymore," like, "You've been keeping secrets and like, you don't feel like my brother properly anymore," right? Like, that's real. Sam's stuff was just like, "I'm a better hunter than you," [G: "I'm better than you!"] which we've seen no evidence of.
G: The thing is like, Dean thinking that Sam is lying to him is like, "That's true." Like, Sam is lying to him. But, like, Sam thinking that, like, Dean is incompetent or isn't as good of a hunter as him is like, that's not a quantifiable truth. For Sam, it's like, "Oh, Dean thinks I'm lying to him. Yeah! And I'll lie about it some more. I'll lie about not lying to him." And then for Dean, it's like, [fake-teary] "Sam thinks I'm a terrible hunter!" and like, no amount of anything can disprove or prove that. So like, "I'll just sit here and think about 'maybe I'm a terrible hunter.'"
C: Yeah, okay. I guess. Sure.
G: But also, keep that shit to yourself. [laughs]
C: Yeah, I don't- for him to still be stuck on that, like, does that mean that he suspects that it's true and it's like, digging into some kind of insecurity? Because I don't feel like we've seen any evidence of that.
G: That that's true?
C: That that's true, and that that's something that Dean is afraid of.
G: Huh. Did we ever see Dean be scared that he's not good enough?
C: For hunting? I don't think so. I don't think so.
G: For hunting specifically, yeah. I mean, there's a whole like, "You can't save everyone thing." [C: I guess.] But I feel like that's a different thing. That's a different thing.
C: They both couldn't save everyone, so, yeah. I don't know. I guess if they maybe pushed on like, how the uncle in "Family Remains" was with Dean and then got like, killed, or whatever a bit more, maybe I could see something coming out of that. But, you know, the family's totally fine that the uncle's dead at the end, so it doesn't feel like that's a thing. I guess what Sam's getting at there is like, "You're like, not willing to like, for example, let me train with Ruby" or things like that, like, "You want to stick to like, the safe hunting methods, and that's like, what's preventing you from being able to like, kill certain demons and stuff like that." Does Dean think that that might be true?
G: Yeah, I mean, it's not specifically a case thing. It's more like a overarching plot situation. I do agree with that. And I don't think Dean agrees with it in that he thinks it's a bad thing. It's more like, Dean knows that Sam thinks this, and it's like [C: Concerning?], "Well, that's horrible that you think that." Like, it's not an internal struggle for Dean, it's more like, [fake-teary] "And Sam's like, doing things again that I don't want him to do!" I mean, this episode really cements it that, like, everyone really thinks that Sam is like, fucking horrible for this.
C: Fucking evil, yeah.
G: 'Cause like, I feel like there's like, some deniability in the past episodes. Because, like,  the people saying that what Sam is doing is bad are like, the angels, and like, the angels aren't particularly portrayed as benevolent creatures, and like, Dean's being an asshole. And yeah, Ruby, is being terrible too, and Ruby's trying to convince him to do it. But, like, it's more ambiguous. Like, all sides, are kind of horrible to Sam. But like, having-
C: - Pamela waste her dying words on that? Yeah.
G: Dying words, and also, like, Pamela has always been seen as someone who has more insight on, like, stuff. Like, understands the occult better than most people. Like, they go to her to consult her, so like, she must be someone who knows her shit, and the fact that someone who like, knows her shit isn't involved with the angels, actually doesn't like, the angels, you know, still thinks that what Sam is doing is bad is like, that's the thing that cements it that like, "Oh, Supernatural as a show is like, trying to tell us that, like, we're supposed to think that this is a bad thing."
C: I feel like Supernatural already told us that because we're supposed to, like, consider Dean, like, a moral high ground a lot of the time.
G: Yeah, but I don't, so.
C: Yeah. But like, yeah, I guess this is like, "For, you know, the last remaining fans who aren't certain, here's our stance." So, right. So Dean gets all upset about this. Last episode, Dean was literally about to kill Sam with an axe while like, saying a line about, "Oh, tell me again how I hold you back," and Sam's not mad about that. Like, Dean, get over it! Sam's like, "Can we get past this?" And Dean thinks for a second and then goes, "Yeah, we're past it." And, I mean, I guess they are, 'cause it never comes up again.
G: Yeah. I mean, Supernatural always does this where like, they tried to connect it to the last episode, [C laughs] and then just don't follow through.
C: They just drop it, yeah.
G: Honestly, I support it. I feel like it will be tedious to keep bringing it up, too. Like, we can just take it as like, something simmering instead of something said, you know?
C: Yeah.
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G: We go to the house of the guy who like, got shot earlier, and [laughs] apparently, Sam and Dean has introduced themselves as bloggers, which is truly wonderful. [C: Yeah.] And Jim, the guy who got shot, is asking like, "Okay, so like, you guys, what's the name of your- you guys's blog?" And Sam is like, "Yeah, we're flooredbythelord.com."
C: [laughing] Iconic.
G: I mean, Dean obviously finds this so amusing that they're flooredbythelord.com. Sam starts interviewing the guy about the miracle that he experienced, and the guy's like, "Oh, bullet in my heart and everything, but it's still going." He says that, you know, "I wasn't a saint, wasn't father of the year, but when I got shot and nothing bad happened, I just knew the Lord was giving me a second chance." And this entire time, we're on Dean's face. The guy goes, "I had this feeling that angels were watching over me." Lot of things for Dean because that's the thing that Mary tells him, and also, angels literally are watching over him now, but not in a good way. So that's fun.
C: This is true. Yeah. I mean, he's trying to believe it's in a good way. But yeah.
G: Does Dean think of like, this as like, a benevolent second chance? Was there like, ever a time where Dean thought that?
C: Didn't he- in "Monster Movie" or something, didn't he say some shit to Jamie about how like, something bad happened and then he was given a second chance, and like, he's gonna use it to like, save people or like, he knows it means he's doing good or some shit?
G: Wasn't he like, "I'm gonna use it to fuck you raw" or something? [C laughing] Like, it wasn't like, a flirting method? I mean, he's probably being sincere, and we are supposed to think he's being sincere, despite the flirting and everything. [C: Yeah.] But I mean, it's just such an odd thing. Because, again, we've mentioned over and over again, Season 4, so full of it, like, Dean being like, "And I was put here on Earth again to save people" and then just an absolute fucking menace-
C: [laughing] Just goes around harassing women, yeah.
G: Yeah. [laughs] Is an absolute menace to everyone he's supposed to be saving, so. Yeah, I don't know.
C: Jim says a stupidass the line where he's like, "I wouldn't expect you guys to understand." And the only point is for the viewers to be like, "Oh, Jim, but little do you know, they are having angels watch over them, you silly little man!" [G laughs] but like, they literally introduce themselves as Christian bloggers. [G: No, exactly!] Like, obviously, you'd expect them to understand. It's just for the viewer to be like, "Oh-ho-ho-ho, Jim!" And well, you're annoying, Jeremy Carver. I'm annoyed by you.
G: They're literally the guys behind flooredbythelord.com! You would expect them to understand!
C: Exactly. If anyone would understand, it would be the flooredbythelord.com bloggers. [G laughs]
G: Sam is, you know, continuing the interview. "Did you go through a crossroad? Did you see someone with black eyes or red?" I mean, the black eyes question is always so fascinating to me because, like, just say- How would you word that to convey what you're trying to say, which is like, the entire eyes are black?
C: Just say their entire eyes are black.
G: What if they have beautiful, striking black eyes?
C: What if? Yeah, I don't know. I guess USAmericans just call it brown eyes, even if it's closer to black. Usually, I'd say that Dean's the one who like, is asking the more aggressive, off-putting questions.
G: Yeah, but they're trying to do a whole like, "Dean is taken by this guy's like, 'angels are watching over me'" thing.
C: Yeah yeah yeah. Their doing a thing about Dean believing in miracles is equally a thing about Sam not believing in miracles this episode, and that's fun enough, I think.
G: I think Sam's painted as the more grounded-in-reality person in this episode. I mean, I think back to "Houses of the Holy."
C: Of course.
G: In that episode, like, Dean, was the one who was like, grounded in reality, and Sam off in the "I'm trying to save people!" but I guess the difference there is in that one, people were dying, and this one is "people aren't dying." And like, yeah, maybe they're equally like, miracles. I don't know. Because I feel like this is the opposite of that episode.
C: Yeah, angels were supposedly inciting people to kill in "Houses of the Holy," and now it's people are like, not dying. Yeah.
G: And also like, the whole, you know, Sam is like, "We shouldn't stop the angel because the angel is doing something good by killing these people, just like, in, you know, early Christian martyrdom [laughs] situation."
C: Just like in Death Note.
G: Just like in St. Katherine. But- [laughs] those are such a funny things to say. "Just like in Death Note" and then "Just like in St. Katherine of Alexandria." So true, though! And here, Dean is like, "But shouldn't we stop people from dying? Like, isn't that our goal?" And yeah. I think it's interesting that for Sam, it's like, more focused on like, "Is it supernatural or not? And is that supernatural thing a good thing or not?" And for Dean it's like, "But like, are people dying?"
C: Which I think is not their usual MO, right? G: Yeah. I also don't think so. Yeah, which is why I like, went way back to Season 2 [laughs] to like, compare an episode to it. 'Cause, like, I don't think this is usually their go-to. Like, Dean is a lot more like, moralist, you know, in terms of supernatural blah-blah-blah.
C: Yeah. I mean, I guess for Sam, like, "Houses of the Holy," like, it didn't happen in a vacuum. Like, it probably did 'cause them to become a lot more jaded about this shit.
G: Yeah, like, it was the breaking point. Or the new status quo.
C: Yeah, he wanted to believe in miracles, and he wanted to believe that, like, an angel had chosen him specifically to carry out God's will, and then it turned out it was just like, a ghost of a priest that was like, manipulating people and thinking that he was saving their souls but probably like, condemning them to Hell forever for doing murders. At that, he was like, "Okay, well, I guess that like, angels like, aren't real or whatever the fuck? Who knows?" And then, like, two years later, it's like, "Oh, no, they're real. They just like, specifically, hate your ass." Yeah, I get like, after that, being like, "Okay, I don't really believe in miracles, and anything good must come with a catch."
So we cut to the motel, where they're both checking up on deaths in the town. The cancer survivor, he's totally fine. He was clinically dead, and now he's not. No sign of a deal.
G: Also, I want to bring up, laptop in this scene. And I did try to see the label. [laughs] I did try to see the logo. And there were no, like, you know Sam's girl emo stickers-
C: Yeah, Sam's emo girl- yeah.
G: - to cover the logo, but I still can't see it. Is that like, a Season 1 thing? Sam's girl emo stickers thing?
C: I think so. I feel like there was like, a skull or something at some point. Dean says that the last person who died in this town is this like, kid named Cole Griffith who died 10 days ago.
G: Fascinating that 10 days, and he was able to master the art of ghostery.
C: Yeah, he was bored, I guess.
G: Quick learner, that kid.
C: I'm sure he was a pleasure to have in class. Dean is willing to just sort of give the job up. Like, he's like, "Well, maybe it's like, a real miracle. There's no deals, and there's no skeevy faith healers." Sam's like, "Oh, well, maybe this is 'cause like, the local reaper isn't here right now." Sam suggests that they should try to contact Cole to ask if he's seen anything, and they go to the graveyard.
G: You haven't even mentioned!
C: What?
G: First of all, Dean says "The local reaper's on strike?" which is such a fascinating idea of like, supernatural creatures going on strike. Fun stuff!
C: I mean, who would they appeal to, though? Like, Death? Like the horseman?
G: I mean, who is doing their schedules? Like, what's the bureaucracy behind this?
C: No, yeah, exactly. It's like, this is a small town. Like, you're telling me they have to assign one reaper to this entire town that is like, tiny? Like, don't they have something better to do? What are they doing in their free time?
G: Yeah, I mean, they assign one reaper here, and then that reaper dies, and Tessa comes in. So like, someone is like, telling these reapers, "Okay, you're the one doing this thing."
C: Tessa might have just heard about this and come in.
G: Yeah, but they still need to communicate to each other that "Okay, Tessa's gonna be there, so you don't have to go."
C: Yeah. Yeah. The big ol' reaper discord, or whatever.
G: [laughs] Yeah. They have Discord drama on that thing.
C: Oh, absolutely. Yeah. They're blocking each other left and right.
G: Number 2, Sam goes like, "Let's talk to somebody who might," meaning the angels, and Dean says, "Last I checked Huggy Bear ain't available." He's talking about Cas in that thing!
C: Oh, right. Well, Sam doesn't mean the angels, but yeah.
G: And, I mean, the Huggy Bear is like, cute. And like, I was confused because I thought Huggy Bear was like, a nickname said somewhere else, but apparently, it's said here, and I doubt that they repeat this nickname, but whatevs.
C: They could repeat it. Uh, it's also said in 5.10.
G: 5.10. In what context?
C: Well, I don't know. I can check. [typing] Dean just calls Cas that on the phone [G: Ah!] while he's following Crowley to watch him gay kiss a guy, and then the fucking "Got him." zoom, I think probably.
G: [laughs] Wonderful, wonderful!
C: It's great, yeah.
G: Well, this is a thing that he calls Cas, then. Like, this is in his head as like, "a nickname that I call Cas."
C: Yeah. I mean, sorry, I'm just not really feeling it with Destiel. [laughs] But like, you go ahead.
G: I mean, this is- it's still not- I feel like in this seasons, it's still not the kind of Destiel that would appeal to you. I feel like there would be a time where it's a kind of Destiel that would appeal to you, but not now.
C: Yeah. I mean, we're not gonna rehash the "They're not even best friends!" argument here, so. [laughs]
G: No, but like, they are, though. [both laughing] See, we are already rehashing it.
C: I mean, I haven't seen it all, so maybe I'll change my mind. Is my diplomatic response to that.
G: Yeah. I will wear you down. We have five to six to seven or eight years left.
C: Yeah. Have I come back so different? Am I like, Came Back Wrong for the listeners right now? Was I really into Destiel when we last left off? I'm sorry.
G: You weren't. You were into Cas, and even when a Destiel thing was happening, you were very intent and clear that "I like this because of the Cas stuff, not necessarily because of the Destiel stuff."
C: Okay, good, good. [laughs] Alright.
G: I mean, even our episode where- I think it's titled "We are watching Destiel happen live," I was the one who was talking about Destiel, and you were like, "And Dean is also there."
C: "And then Cas like, looks down and blinks, and then looks to the side," [laughs] yeah.
G: From what we know of the Cas and Dean relationship to this point, what has happened between them? Let's do like, a recap. So they meet, the kitchen threat, and then we have the- the big one is the "Great Pumpkin" scene with the bench.
C: Yeah. Yeah. Cas reveals that he's been having doubts, and that he was praying that Dean would choose to save the town.
G: And then we have "Heaven and Hell."
C: Yeah, they go after Anna, which Dean is against.
G: How does that thing end?
C: Sam and Dean and Ruby came up with a plan to like, get the angels and the demons to come together, and then cancel each other out by like, fighting each other to the death or whatever the fuck so that Anna can get her grace back and then run off. One of the demons- Alastair-
G: Dean saves Cas!
C: Yeah, Dean, saves Cas from Alastair, even though I guess that wasn't part of the plan. Anna gets away. Uriel is angered but Cas holds him back with a brief touch to the shoulder or whatever and says that their business is concluded and then heads off.
G: Yeah. And then Dean cries about being in Hell while Sam looks on with no emotion whatsoever. [C laughing] Fascinating episode! Okay. Recap done. My question now is, do you think like, Dean thinks in any way fondly of Cas at this point?
C: I mean, I think he thinks of Cas as a volatile ally.
G: Yeah. There's like a line in this episode where he like, says "most angels." Most of them.
C: He's talking about Anna.
G: Oh, yeah!
C: He's met three angels. It's Anna, Uriel, and Cas. Uriel and Cas suck. That's 2 out of 3. That's most.
G: Damn. That's crazy.
C: Yeah, he doesn't like Cas.
G: Yeah, I completely forgot about Anna even if she showed her face in the beginning of this "Then" sequence. So, yeah, he doesn't like Cas. And I mean, later, like, I suppose he like, berates Cas for not showing up and everything, so.
C: Yeah, I mean, he views Cas as someone who should be helping him and isn't.
G: Yeah, I think he is aware at this point that Cas is someone that isn't as hardset on Heaven principles. I think of the "I don't know what's right or wrong here," right? Like, I feel like that's a pretty big confession that like, "I'm not particularly sure what we're doing."
C: Yeah. Yeah. But like, I don't know. I feel like, you know, him going after Anna has sort of eroded any like, trust Dean would have. It's like, "Okay, like, secretively, you feel this way, but like, it's not gonna cause you to act against or like, act for the human good or whatever, except in very small ways."
G: That's true. I mean, in a way, maybe that even makes it worse, like, "You seem to know better, and yet you do this anyway," you know. I mean, that's kind of- we'll get to it at the end of Season 4, but like, that's kind of the point of their last fight in Season 4, right? You know, Dean trying to convince Cas and everything, and Cas is like, "But I can't, because of the plan," and Dean's like, [dramatically] "We're done! Don't talk to me, we're done!" [laughs] It's so dramatic. I'm so excited for the last episode of the season, like, for fucking real. I've been thinking about it. I've been talking about it with Crystal and Crystal's been like, "Okay." [both laughing] I mean, it is okay.
C: I'll care when we get there. Maybe.
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G: We go to the cemetery, and they are digging up- actually, are they digging up, or are they doing a ouija board situation? What's going on?
C: They're trying to summon the kid in some way, I think.
G: Ahh, yeah. Did they even need to do this in the gravestone? Oh yeah! 'Cause they did this in, again, "Houses of the Holy," and they did do it like, in the gravestone or something, but like, the grave is inside the church like, mausoleum, so it's not a grave.
C: They had a similar confrontation.
G: Yeah, and they had a Spongebob cloth that they turned around. [laughs]
C: Yeah, and they said something racist about it.
G: Did they?
C: One of them says, like, "It doesn't get more ghetto than this or something."
G: Ohh, yeah.
C: And then we forgot about it when we were doing the racism points at the end so we gave it 0 racism points, even though it should have gotten a racism point for that.
G: Well. [both laugh] Terrible show, honestly.
C: Yeah. [laughing]
G: The thing about Supernatural is you will talk about your favorite episode ever, and then you remember that they mentioned Busty Asian Beauties in an extended bit in it, and it's like, "Oh my god." Like, for example, in 8.17, "Goodbye Stranger," there's an extended at the beginning of that thing-
C: Oh, where the Men of Letters had Voluptuous Asian Pretties or whatever the fuck.
G: Asian Lovelies, yeah. "Scoobynatural," Dean was a fucking creep in that one, and it's like, every single one, you have to be like, "This is a wonderful episode that I like, love so much."
C: "Yeah, except for the gunk."
G: "- Also, there's this absolutely horrific bit." The only episode that escapes this fully is, of course, "Dog Dean Afternoon." [both laughing] I'm still on that thing. I'm still on that episode.
C: Wait til we get there. Are you sure? You've watched it like, more recently than some other later episodes, so can you guarantee 0 points in all categories?
G: No, absolutely not. [C laughs] I absolutely cannot guarantee anything. I think there's a little bit of homophobia in it, even.
C: Hell yeah!
G: But you know what? Again, every fun episode is Supernatural is actually secretly a fucking menace to society.
C: Yeah.
G: They're there, trying to summon this guy, whatever. Dean suddenly, like, closes the journal, starts complaining, and he's like, "What a stupid fucking job we're doing." He complains that, as we said earlier, that like, when you're killing a ghost or a monster, anything, like it's a reasonable thing to do because, like, those creatures are killing people. But, I mean, they also kill creatures that were not killing people.
C: They do.
G: So, what's up with that, Dean? What's up with that, Dean? [C laughs] But he says, "If we fix this, people are gonna start dropping dead." Actually, I haven't thought about this. 'Cause Pamela was like, alive until the reaper shit gets, I don't know, whatever.
C: Yeah. Jim's young daughter is gonna find him bleeding out from a gunshot wounds on the floor of her kitchen.
G: That's crazy! And that cancer guy's just gonna drop dead.
C: Yeah.
G: Oh, no.
C: Yeah. That's gonna be weird for the town.
G: I mean, it's gonna be weird for the town, number one, but like, it must be miserable to be  the wife of that guy and like, "And, and now my husband's like, completely fine. We're gonna live together until we're 80 years old." And then, like, the next day, he's dead, and she's like, "He was already supposed to be dead, and you gave me this couple of days of hope, and now it's over, and it's more miserable, maybe."
C: Yeah, yeah, they're gonna have a lot of weird feelings about religion, I think, given that they all seem to think that God gave them a second chance. But it was like, "God gave them a trial run and they failed" is probably how some people are gonna think of it.
G: Sam goes, "I don't want them to die either. But, you know, natural order. There's a natural order." And Dean is like, in disbelief, and it's like, "You don't see the irony in that? Like, you and me, we're very unnatural order-"
C: Yeah, perhaps even supernatural.
G: "- 'cause all we do is ditch death." And Sam's like, "Yeah, but we're so special!" [both laugh] "The normal rules don't apply to us, Dean."
C: Yeah. I mean, it turns out they're right. Like, they are God's specialest little princesses.
G: I mean, they are very special. Yeah. Dean is unconvinced. He's saying, "We're no different than anybody." And Sam's like- Sam looks at him in a bit of disbelief, and there's like, a little pause in the conversation, and then he goes, "I'm infected with demon blood!" and then, like, scoffs a little bit, and then he goes, "You've been to Hell!" Sam is so funny sometimes. Sam is like, he's an absolute fucking killjoy. He's so unfunny. [C laughs] But also, he's funny sometimes, and that's what's important.
C: Yeah.
G: Do you think people think I'm like, being mean when I say that Sam's a killjoy? He is, though.
C: No. I hear people say a lot worse things about Sam.
G: No, but like, I need everyone to know that I say these things fondly. Like, I love that Sam is a bit unfunny. A lot unfunny, even. I love that he don't give a shit about being funny. That's important to me. I mean, I complained a lot in Season 1 that, like, Dean is like, the funny, goofy brother, and Sam is the serious, brooding brother, but like, as the seasons progress, Dean remains the goofy brother, and Sam has lessened on the brooding section. So now he's just unfunny. [laughs] And I support that. Like, I genuinely love that. I mean, I was annoyed with the brooding stuff, 'cause I just don't like that as a character trait, but, like, now, he's not brooding. He's just annoyed at everything, and that's important to me. We need more guys who are annoyed at everything.
C: What is actually wrong with disrupting the natural order?
G: Absolutely nothing.
C: Yeah, they have to invent the seals thing so that, like, it actually makes sense that they're trying to like, stop this from happening or whatever
G: I mean, you can claim that modern medicine is disrupting the natural order. Dialysis is disrupting the natural order. A pacemaker is disrupting the natural order. Organ transplant.
C: You could also argue that the natural order includes, like, monsters killing humans.
G: Yeah. I mean, they're naturally there.
C: Yeah, they really are. But they were gonna keep doing it even without the like, seals reveal, right? Like, they were still summoning the kid. I mean, I guess Sam's a Bible reader, so he would also think that to everything, there is a season. I mean, Dean has, in the past, been very pro "natural order," I think, so I guess that would be his reasoning, too.
G: I mean, the real issue here is that they don't even know about the reaper situation. I don't know. I feel like the Sam- the Samhain (sah-wen) one- I'm gonna start pronouncing that correctly and not the Supernatural way. [C laughs] That episode, it's- like, they knew, right, that it was a seal, but they still wanted to save the town. I don't know. I feel like that kind of dilemma is good because it's like, they're trying to do both. Here, it's like, Dean is right. Like, okay, people are not dying. So what? What dilemma are they trying to present here? Like, what's Jeremy Carver trying to say?
C: I mean, it's not exactly the same thing, but like, with Cole, it's like, "You should go away because, like, people will never get over it until you're dead." Like, is the idea with the other people-
G: Yeah. Until you're gone.
C: Yeah, until you're gone.
G: Yeah, but those people are not dead. They're alive.
C: But I guess it's like, a reaper is always gonna come in, so like, it's the false hope thing. Like, Tessa came in, and she was going to kill all of them as well, so it's not like letting things keep going would mean that they all get to live forever, no consequences.
G: I mean, that's also the same again, about organ transplants. [laughs] That's the same about a pacemaker. You're still gonna die, but like, you still do it.
C: Yeah. I mean, I feel that's different from like, miraculously not dying and then like, spontaneously dropping dead. Actually, it is pretty similar.
G: I mean, in this episode, I can assume, like, Sam has this kind of perspective, like, "What makes life worth living is the fact that it's going to end!"
C: Really.
G: I mean, yeah. I mean, I don't think so. But like, I think that's the idea that is being peddled to us right now. I don't think Sam believes it. I don't think Dean believes it. But it's an idea being presented to us by the show, I feel. I may be completely off point.
C: But maybe "There's a natural order to things" is more like, descriptive. Like, "There's gonna be a new reaper to come in to fill the void. There's gonna be like, blah blah blah blah blah. Like, that's just how it is. So if we do anything to try to stop it, it'll just cause complications."
G: They're not trying to stop it. Like, them trying to continue it is the doing.
C: No, yeah, sorry, I mean trying to stop it as in like, letting it be, like, would just 'cause more disruptions and more issues down the line.
G: Yeah. I mean, I still don't understand why they are saying what they're saying and specifically, like, why the person who is saying it is saying it.
C: I don't know. 'Cause Dean's thing this episode is also like, he's like, grateful that Heaven gave him a second chance, but like, he also wishes that he just died in 2.01 with Tessa, but like, I don't- I guess it's fine to have conflicting ideas held in your mind. A lot of people do that. [G: Of course.] So I guess that's that's Dean's thing. The interaction of those ideas.
G: I also find it fascinating that, like, Sam, who has vehemently tried to be normal, like, all of Supernatural, basically, is just out here, going like, "Yeah, I'm infected with demon blood. I'm pretty fucking fucked up in that way. Very unnatural of me."
C: I mean, I don't- Sam has tried to be- I feel like he's stopped trying to be normal for a while already.
G: Yeah. But this is like, a very, you know, vocal, very verbal confirmation that he don't-
C: I remember 3.15 or whatever, he was like, "Dean, you should just go around stealing organs from people to become immortal forever." Like- [laughs]
G: Slay. Hell yeah!
C: He seems- he has been fine with going against the natural order and not being normal for a while. And like, I do wonder- if I go back, I wonder if like, that's a change that starts after Azazel shows him what happened in his crib the night Mary died- [G: Huh. Yeah.] - or, if like, it's different. 'Cause, like, Sam, does seem to believe strongly that the fact that he's infected with demon blood means he really can never be normal 'cause it's like, something biological, and he like, believes in that shit or whatever, right? So like, I wonder if starting from the end of Season 2, that's when he gave up on being normal.
G: Yeah. Go, Sam.
C: Go, Sam!
G: Or maybe don't. I'm not actually sure [laughs] what my stances are this episode. But- and Sam is like [laughs], "I know you think of yourself as the Joe the plumber, Dean, but you're not. And I'm not. So the sooner you accept that, the better off you're gonna be." Big words.
C: I guess, in the past, all their stuff about how- like, they've always considered the other one the exception in terms of, you know, like, what happened with Sam and Dean in 3.15, and like, in "Croatoan" when Dean was like, "Oh, yeah, I totally shot this teenager's parents as soon as they got infected, but, like, Sam got infected? Don't you dare touch him," etc etc, so like, I guess this is just extending it to like, "And also we should think that about ourselves."
G: Yeah, I suppose.
C: But also, with the other person it's like- it's a selfishness thing. It is like a "You're my brother, and therefore, the rules about killing monsters indiscriminately don't apply to you." But like, I guess-
G: Yeah, it's not specifically, like, "Dean fundamentally as a person." It's just "Dean, my brother." And you know, same goes with Sam.
C: Yeah. Yeah. But I guess Sam is trying to move this into the realm as like, "We fundamentally as people are special, and you need to deal with that."
G: "Matter in the grand scheme of things." Yeah.
C: What makes that thought useful for Sam's emotional well-being or whatever? I guess it's just to justify, like, the demon blood shit, mostly.
G: Yeah. "'Cause I'm the only one who can do it, so I need to," stuff like that.
C: Yeah. And also, like, "I might be against someone else doing this, but I'm special, and because of like, my biology and being infected with demon blood already, I'm like, someone who can do this and be okay and have good intentions and blah blah."
G: And their conversation gets interrupted by a man who comes in and just starts, you know, berating them on what the hell they're doing. And there's this bit where, you know, the guy's like, "What the hell is this?" and Dean's like, "It's not what it looks like," and the man goes, "Oh, really? 'Cause it looks like devil worship to me!" And Dean's like, "What?! Noo! It's not devil worship, it's- uh-" and then he looks at Sam and like, looks back at the guy, and he's like, "I don't have a good answer," and it's pretty funny. It's pretty funny.
C: I mean, I'd just say, like, "We're friends of the deceased, and we're just holding a wake for him. Oh, is that a pentagram? No, it's not. That's just a religious thing. You don't get it."
G: The older they get, the less it will work, but, like, you know, in Season 1, when they were like, "We're in a frat, and this is our initiation!"
C: Yeah, "This is a dare."
G: But yeah, they say that they're going now, but the guy goes, "You're not going anywhere," and then a menacing, you know, voice, and his eyes like, roll back in his head to reveal the white, which is a very wonderful effect. Did he do that before?
C: I don't remember. I think they do it too much this episode, though.
G: Who has the white eyes? With Li-
C: Lilith.
G: It's Lilith, right? Yeah, it's just Lilith.
C: Yeah, I don't know what that means about his position in Hell.
G: Yeah. Good effect, though. Bit overused, as you said, but it's pretty nice.
C: Yeah, like, later, it's like, "I know that that's Alastair. You don't need to do that for me again."
G: I mean, what's fascinating is like, you know, every Alastair prior is like, a normal guy who's like, an accountant, but like, a little bit more menacing. And then we get the Alastair later and the Alastair next episode.
C: Oh, yeah. He's great.
G: And he is pussy cunt slay. Like, that man is acting. He's acting. And it's amazing. It's amazing to watch. Like, even in this episode, it's like, "Good lord! That guy's putting on a voice! [C: Sure is.] And it's an amazing voice, even." Alastair is here, and Dean recognizes him. Does Sam know yet that Alastair is the guy? I kind of missed that situation.
C: Who trained Dean to torture in Hell? I don't think so? Okay, well, Dean reveals the Hell torture at the end of 4.10. Sam overheard Alastair telling Dean that he had promise in Hell and then Dean says that he tortured people, but I mean, it's not confirmed that Alastair was the one who was doing the torturing or Dean's torturing mentor at all. It's just like, he was aware of Dean, I guess.
G: Yeah, I guess we also learn it next episode, not here, necessarily.
C: Yeah, I think it's heavily implied, though. I think Sam could have come to that conclusion.
G: I don't know if I would, though, if I didn't know that prior [C: That's true.], but I believe you. And, you know, Dean's like, "I thought you died," and Alastair's like, "Nope. Not me." I mean, at this point, the only thing that can kill a demon is the Colt and the knife, right?
C: Yeah.
G: Do they get more? It's still just the Colt and the knife in the future.
C: I'm pretty sure, yeah.
G: That's crazy. 'Cause like, there are many angel blades. Every angel has an angel blade. You can theoretically acquire many angel blades.
C: Yeah, do they try making another knife or making another Colt?
G: They may new bullets for the Colt, I believe. Supernatural really is a show about [both] what if we get a better gun. [both laugh] "Let's get a God-killing gun this time." And they literally did! They fucking got that God-killing gun. But like, they only have that one demon blade, and it's just Sam's, and they make a point of making it just Sam's. Like, it's very rarely used by Dean in future seasons. Fun stuff! You know, everything you love will come back to you tenfold or whatever [laughs], and, you know, Sam loved that fucking demon pussy.
C: What is that from?
G: My head. It came from my head.
C: Okay. [G laughs]
G: No, yeah. Sam is getting that demon blade tenfold.
C: Yeah, yeah. Getting it raw and hard. And that's what Alastair asks. "Have you been getting that demon blade raw and hard?" Except misogynistically.
G: Alastair flicks Dean, and Dean hits his head on a gravestone, and then, like, I don't know, falls unconscious. Alastair turns to Sam and like, tries to flick him, too, it doesn't work, and he goes, "Oh, you're stronger, Sam. You've been soloflexing with your little slut?" Ugh.
C: Yeah. And, you know, there's that classic Supernatural misogyny. For a few minutes, I'd forgotten.
G: With the demons, I understand them being misogynistic in that like, they existed on Earth and they were people before, so they were already exposed to misogyny.
C: No, exactly. It's when Uriel does it that I'm like, "What the fuck is up?"
G: When the angels do it, it's like, "The fuck is-" yeah. [both laugh] "You haven't been here enough to figure that out." Sam succeeds and, like, pins Alastair to a tree.
C: Yeah, far away.
G: By head. [laughs] Not "by head," by- well, maybe by head, who knows? But like, by psychic powers, you know, extracts the demon out of him and everything. Fun stuff!
C: Yeah. I wish that there had been more notice drawn to this episode the fact that both of the times that Sam exorcises a demon during this episode, he doesn't check on the vessels afterwards, and we're to presume that they're dead. I mean, Alastair's vessel is probably dead from Sam, like, slamming him across the graveyard.
G: No, because sincerely what I thought happened was like, the vessel got stabbed to a branch 'cause there's like, a sound effect.
C: No, yeah, I think that did happen. If one of the points of this episode is like, "Sam, you think you have good intentions with this demon blood shit, but, like, you don't," then I think that- I feel like the strongest argument for Sam continuing training with Ruby is that he is able to get the demons out without killing the vessels the way that the knife or the Colt does. If they like, put a little more focus on the fact that, like, this is no longer 4.04 where afterwards, he rushes over and checks if they're okay and then gets them to the hospital, like, it would like help drive home the point that, like, he's just doing this because he likes the rush of it or the power or whatever, if that's what they're going for, but like, I think that just 'cause the writers don't care about vessels, they don't think about using that path to like, help convince us, and I feel like that would have like, made Pamela's last words make a lot more sense to me.
G: Yeah.
C: Oh, well. Sam killed that guy.
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C: So we cut to the motel, and, you know, this is the most important scene in the entire episode besides the one with Cas in it, where, you know, Dean's recovering, Sam asks if he wants some aspirin, and Dean says, "No thanks, House." Soo true.
G: Yas!
C: Soo true. Dean asks Sam what happened, and Sam, you know, lies to his face and says that Alastair tried to fling him, it didn't work, Alastair ran off, and he's like, "Oh, I have no idea why Alastair wasn't able to throw me. Huh?" And, you know, Dean's like, "Okay, like, if you're gonna keep your little secrets, I can't really stop you, but like, I'm not stupid." And Sam just continues to lie because he is so incredibly funny. Sam says that Bobby called- well, Bobby in quotes, because it was Cas again. [both laugh] God, that's so funny. I love that, like, Cas like, sent them on this case and then he's like, hanging around, watching, right? And it's like, "These idiots still haven't figured out that it's the fucking seal. I'm gonna have to call them again." [G laughing] So there's apparently a verse from an obscure version of Revelation that's "And he bloodied death under the newborn sky, sweet to taste, but bitter when once devoured." It should've been like "twice devoured" or something, right?
G: Yeah.
C: The reveal that you need to kill two reapers, like, came out of fucking nowhere, and it was just to like, give them some more time or whatever to like, figure out the chandelier-throwing thing or whatever. You know what I mean? There should have been something so that it wasn't so annoying that that came out of nowhere.
G: Yeah, and it's just to have like, Tessa around, honestly. I mean, it could have been like, Tessa immediately who was captured, but like, it wouldn't give Dean and Tessa talking time, which is, I guess, a big point in this episode.
C: I guess. I wish that they never talked ever and that Dean died in 2.01, just like he does, but you know. Yeah, if you kill a reaper under the solstice moon, which is tomorrow night, then a seal breaks.
G: "Tomorrow night, by the way." [C laughs] This is one of the- you know that video.
C: The caspig420 line deliveries video, yes. Gay as hell way to deliver that. Sam says that he wishes the angels were here 'cause they need their help, but Dean's like, "Nah, not gonna happen." Dean suggests that they become ghosts so they can communicate with the reaper.
G: It is so funny. I mean, Dean asks here, like, "How do you even kill a reaper?" And later, we find out that it's a scythe. Is that how you pronounce that?
C: Yeah, from like, death itself, yeah.
G: Yeah. And Supernatural really is about a hyper-specific weapon for a hyper-specific supernatural creature, and it will always be so funny to me.
C: It will.
G: What if they literally had reaper-killing bullets? Like, that would be fucking hilarious.
C: Yeah. We cut to later, and they're taking Pamela inside the motel room, and they have the most annoying conversation in the world! Like, they got her, and they drove her here. Like, you're telling me during all of those hours, they stayed completely silent, and then as soon as they get back to the motel, it's like, "I'm gonna deliver exposition in the most obvious way ever with like, bad acting, bad directing, bad writing, bad everything"?
G: Hell yeah!
C: Like, just have them have this conversation on the car. Like, I'd be way more okay with it. But it's like, you guys have been hanging out for hours, and then as soon as this door closes, it's like, "I can't even begin to tell you how crazy you are! You wanna do this, and then also do this? No way, you guys! And you also want to do these other details regarding your plan that will help the viewer know what's up?"
G: Are you sure they drove her here?
C: I mean, she couldn't have driven herself.
G: Maybe she got an Uber in 2009.
C: [laughs] Do they have those?
G: I mean, it's just I cannot imagine this conversation if that's the case.
C: [laughing] It's because the writing is bad. It's due to how the writing's bad.
G: Sam says, like, "Well, you're a sight for sore eyes," and that's something you probably say, for, like, someone who just shows up.
C: But like, how did she get here, then?
G: She teleported. She got teleported by Cas.
C: So true. But I feel like she would have- I feel like they were with each other for a while before this and that they just didn't think about it. Or maybe they weren't thinking about it, and they were like, "Oh, yeah, she totally drove herself here" without thinking about it, so who knows? Maybe that was the writing error made. Either way, the acting is still unbearable, even if this is the first conversation they've had.
G: I mean, it's fine. I didn't find it unbearable.
C: I find it unbearable. It's bad. They have a whole torturedass conversation. Sam calls her a "sight for sore eyes," and Pamela's like, "Well, that's offensive. What do you say to deaf people?"
G: We do know what Sam says to deaf people.
C: Yeah. It's "Fuck you."
G: [laughs] He signs "fuck you" to them immediately. First meeting. Go, Sam.
C: Yeah. And this is the continuation of the joke format in, like, "Everybody Loves a Clown" or whatever where it's like, you make a comment that seems maybe related to someone's disability, and then they're like "[disgruntled sounds]" about it, and it's, I don't know. It's just written by writers who I dislike. Dean wanted them to astral project or whatever. And yeah, Pamela says that "Oh my god, you're crazy! I don't wanna do this." Like, you came here.
G: "You guys are the crazy brothers." [laughs]
C: Yeah, no, but like- I guess what's also tortured about this is just that she spent time to get here, whether the writers think she could have gotten here by herself or if, like, they drove her. Like, you're telling me that she has only brought up the objections now? Like, were Sam and Dean just like, "You have to get over here, and we're not gonna tell you for what until like, we're walking up the stairs to our motel room," and she was like, "That's fine with me!" They would have had this conversation, if not during the drive, on the phone when they like, asked her to come over. Whatever. Who give a shit? She's like, "You guys don't know what you're doing, and I'm sick of being hauled back into your angel-demon Soc-Greaser crap." You came here! Whatever. [G laughs] Outsiders by S.E. Hinton reference alert. Yeah, we have another moment where, you know, Dean's like, "Oh, I also wish that I was relaxing and watching Judge Judy," and she's like, "Great. More blind jokes?" and he's like, "You know what I mean." Whatever. Whatever, Jeremy Carver. He says, "We need your help," and apparently this works.
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G: So they set things up, and Pamela is sitting on this chair in front of the beds, makes Sam and Dean like, lie down. This is so funny to me [laughs] because- so Sam and Dean are lying on the beds, and Dean is lying straight, like, vertically, and then Sam, who maybe perhaps is like, too long for the bed, [C laughs] lies diagonally. [C: Slay.] It's so wonderful! That guy is so tall it's unreal. And Pamela, like, does a little chant, and it's showtime! Dean sits up, and the room has changed color, and Dean goes like, "Well, nothing like shooting blanks. What's plan B?" [laughs] Why does he speak like this? But okay, go Dean. Pamela doesn't respond to this at all, and Dean looks at Sam, who is still unconscious in the bed, but then he turns over, and Sam's there! And he looks over his shoulder to the bed, and he's there, and he goes, "Oh, I'm so feeling up Demi Moore."
C: Ding.
G: And like, I physically recoiled. I recoiled.
C: Yeah. Remember in "Wishful Thinking" when like, this teenager wished that he was invisible so that he could like, spy on women in the showers?
G: Yeah.
C: And like, they treat that guy with like, so much derision, as like, they should. And like, they literally run over him in their car and everything just to like, show how that guy's like, gross and bad and you shouldn't like him. And then, like, Dean does the exact same thing. He later suggests that they go to Victoria's Secret and like, peep into those changing rooms top. And it's like, okay, so like, what- What are your policies? [both laugh] Like, what- Is it fine that- Why is it fine for Dean to do it? Like, is it just because- I don't know. It's like, either, like, they think that because Dean is like, hot, like, there's just inherent consent in any interaction that's sexual that he has with a woman because, like, everyone would like, want that already. Or like, it's like, "Next to Dean, women aren't people, but like, next to this guy who's like, less attractive and not a main character, women can be people because they're on like, similar levels"? Like, what is the reasoning here?
G: Yeah, I mean, I think maybe a part of it is like, "Oh, Dean's just saying things. He's not actually-" but, like, we've seen Dean- We know that he's actually, you know. [C laughs] And also the fact that, like, if somebody makes these jokes in real life, and it's like, "Oh, yeah, they are just jokes," but like, the fact that these are the first things to come to your head, like, I'd feel like, "Okay, let's not meet each other ever again," you know?
C: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
G: And multiple times, too. Multiple times.
C: Mm-hm. Mm-hm.
G: We learn here, too, that Pamela needs to like, whisper an incantation in their ear to bring them back, and she, like, leans down and whispers, "You have got a great ass" to Sam.
C: Yeah. Sam's delighted by this. I think- yeah. Some of Pamela's shit is quite bad, like, I think she does like, sexually assault them at times. I feel like this one was was okay. I didn't feel automatically disgusted by it, at least.
So you know, they're outside, being ghosts or whatever the fuck. Someone runs through Sam, and then Dean has fun by like, sticking his arm into Sam's chest and all that shit. So apparently it's hours later now, and they haven't found anything, and this is when Dean suggests that they go to Victoria's Secret and get their peep on! Yayyy. But luckily, they're interrupted by a dead twelve-year-old in the window. [G laughs] It's Cole.
G: Is the kid literally twelve?
C: Yeah, the gravestone has the years.
G: That's a massive twelve-year-old? But also, poor guy. Poor kid.
C: I have no clue what ages kids are, which we've established already. I thought he was ten, so.
G: Adam- the Them were eleven. [laughing] You thought this kid was ten?
C: Yeah, I mean kids in Supernatural look older than they are already, like, that kid with the like, giant teddy bear or whatever, I feel like she was supposed to be younger than she looked.
G: What did you think she looked like?
C: I don't remember. I just feel like she was played like she was 6.
G: She's definitely like, 7 or something.
C: Like, played as 7, or the actress?
G: Played as and looks like.
C: Huh. I think all kids are 10 unless they are like, 6. [G laughs] I guess they can also be 13. Those are the three ages a kid can be. They noticed the kid, and they're like, "Oh, shit. That's Cole Griffith."
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G: We go to the inside of this kid's room, and his mom is like, moving around like, calling him like, "Hi, Cole, it's mom. Your dad thinks I'm crazy. I swear you're here. Are you still with me?" A soccer ball or something, like, bounces around and like, throws itself across the room, and the mom's like, "Oh my god. You're still here." And as she leaves, Sam and Dean enter as ghosts, so they don't have to do the whole, "Hi! We're Sam and Dean, bloggers from flooredbythelord.com," but yeah. They see Cole, and he's there. They do the whole reveal that like, "We're also spirits. Let's talk!" They go downstairs, and in this entire scene, the mom is just in the foreground, like, drinking or whatever.
C: Yeah. They don't do a really good job with her character this episode.
G: Oh, they really don't.
C: 'Cause Cole's whole motivation is supposed to be that he wants to stay here so he can be with his family and like, first of all, they keep saying his "family." We don't see anybody else. Supposedly, there's a dad, because, like, the mom mentions a dad, but like, we don't see him. It is just like, this woman who is just like- I don't know. They just styled her to look like the most depressed person ever, and also, like- I don't know first. She's got that, like, famine look about her as in like, I don't know. It's like she was transported from a historical documentary about the Irish Potato Famine or whatever. She's just really there to look incredibly sad. I feel like if they had a scene where they interviewed her before they became ghosts where like, she actually talked about some memories with Cole or something like that that, would have helped, but like, she just has, like, the most generic, horror mourning mom dialogue ever. And then she's just like, drinking and looking at photos of him. I don't know. It just doesn't create a very strong basis for the Cole thread of this episode.
G: I mean, the fact that this- when the whole like, "Oh, but the people are gonna die again!" I fully did not comprehend, for most of this, that the people who were "saved," quote-unquote, are going to die, it's like, that is also an aspect that you could have leaned on. That like, this is not only just going to kill people in the future, it's like, going to kill people who are already saved. And, you know, it's that-
C: I mean, I think that is implied. Like, Dean says, "These are good people, and they're gonna die," [G: No, of course it's implied-] and I think he's thinking about how that dad is trying to-
G: - change, yeah.
C: But you're right. If we had like a-
G: There's no emotion to these people.
C: - little montage at the end, of like, that guy's daughter finding him on the floor, and, like, the cancer survivor, whatever whatever, it would have helped with whatever they were going for.
G: And like, I feel like the passing through the veil, we already did that in that one episode that I actually quite liked.
C: "Roadkill"?
G: Yeah. And this scene- you know what? This scene fucking terrified me. 'Cause apparently, this kid died because of cold air-induced asthma. [laughs] Yeah.
C: Oh, yeah, I understand why that would scare you.
G: Terrifying. I mean, not for me. It runs in the family. Asthma runs in the family, so like, good lord! People can just die from that?
C: It's like- is it ever cold where you are, though?
G: I mean, one time it was 23 degrees, and I was complaining to my British friend that-
C: 23 degrees Celsius, for the audience.
G: - like, "Oh my god, it's so cold!" She was like, "What's the temperature?" and I was like, "It's 23 degrees, but like, it's windy." And she was like, "You're unfucking real."
C: That's 73 degrees Fahrenheit, for the audience-
G: "- It's literally 9 degrees where I am now." [laughs]
C: - just to get an understanding of this.
G: But it really was chilly! [both laugh]
C: Your experiences are valid. To you.
G: Yeah, this kid dies 'cause of an asthma attack, and then he just goes, "Yeah, it happened so fast. And then I was just there, looking down at my body." Scary. Terrifying.
C: Yeah. I think this actor is decent at playing a kid who we are supposed to like.
G: Yeah, this actor's decent at playing a kid who's 14 years old, I think. [C laughs] And he says that "There was this creepy old guy in a black suit, and he wanted me to go with him," and I was like, "Holy shit! Is this Death?" It's literally not, though.
C: Yeah, it's some other reaper who looks sorta like Death.
G: Some other rando. Yeah. What's funny is they don't even, like, have him be awake for his scenes. Like, when he gets hauled up to be killed, he's just unconscious. But when Tessa gets hauled up to be killed, like, she's conscious, which is so funny to me. He says, "I didn't want to go," but, you know, "I didn't. He didn't take me." Sam asked, "How did you get rid of him?" And he said, "I didn't. The black smoke did." And this entire thing was treated like such a fucking reveal or whatever, but I feel like we already knew. Did we already know? I feel like we already did know.
C: Yeah, they were talking about, like, "Maybe demons can kill reapers," blah blah balh.
G: But you know, Cole was like, "They took him. They left me alone." He says, "I don't know where the smoke went, but I know where it is." And then suddenly, lights start flickering, blah blah blah. Cole starts hiding after saying like, "They're back." And then suddenly, beside him, somebody appears, and it's Tessa. Tessa still recognizes Dean. She like, says that he's "the one that got away."
C: Later, yeah.
G: Which is pretty fun. [C makes annoyed sound] I mean, they have like, a lot of- like, a, lot of their conversation later is like, you can isolate it to be romantic, but literally, it's about Tessa wanting Dean to be dead, [C laughs] and Dean wanting Dean to be dead, which is pretty funny! [laughs]
C: Yeah. And it's also about me wanting Dean to be dead, [G laughs] but they cut that out of the episode because it was taking too long.
G: Yeah, three for three, baby!
C: Yeah. She's in like, a regular person outfit. [laughs] I don't know how to explain it. It's just like, a shirt and pants and jacket or whatever, right? But, you know, later they just have to get that white nightgown on her. [laughs] You know, she's surprised that Dean doesn't remember her, and Dean's like, "If I had a nickel for every time I heard a girl say that," [annoyed sounds]. And then, like, [groans]. And then Tessa kisses him, and that's like, to transfer the memories, and I hate it so much.
G: Literally, why?
C: I hope we all die. There's no reason. It's just like, "She is played by an actress who is attractive. Let's do this." Like, okay, well, I think everything's bad forever. Memories are back. Tessa says that Tessa is "one of her names," which is fun. I want to know more about her! But they don't really treat her like a character. She has no internal consistency at all this episode. Dean tells Sam that this is the reaper that came after him in 2.01, and then Tessa's like, "Okay, well, now, I'm gonna leave to kill this kid." So why did she give Dean's memories back?
G: I mean, she knows what's going on with their life, so like, she knows that all he's gonna do is like, prevent her from doing her job, which at this point, is her main priority, so like, I don't know. I mean, she is probably still caught up in the whole TOTGA, as we say.
C: The what?
G: TOTGA. [laughs]
C: What does that mean?
G: The one that got away.
C: Ohh.
G: That's something- people say that, right.
C: I've not heard it, but maybe some people do. Okay, yeah, so it's like, she's sort of been obsessing over Dean for like, a few years now, so like, she would prefer that obsession to be like, at least somewhat mutual because it's annoying when that guy doesn't even remember you. She and Cas should battle it out at some point. He also raised Dean from the- well, he raised Dean from the dead. He like, did a thing that's sort of related to her thing.
G: I think I think it is fascinating that, like, Dean just has this like, string of supernatural entities that he has like, some weird relationship with.
C: Yeah.
G: Yeah, I mean, Sam does, too, I suppose. They both have their types. Wait, what is Sam's? He has the werewolf.
C: Yeah, Madison. Ruby.
G: Demon, with ruby. Who else? Rowena. Withc. But that's just to me, personally. Eileen was a ghost, but that doesn't really count.
C: Yeah, that wasn't really part of that.
G: But you know what? [laughs] If we try hard enough, it could be.
C: Sure.
G: Who else was Sam involved with? Doesn't he- ah, no, Amy is like, a different thing. That's not his kid.
C: Yeah, but, I mean-
G: Am I mixing things up?
C: Sam and Amy were into each other when they were kids.
G: Yeah, so I guess that's something. And with Dean, good lord.
C: Cas. Crowley.
G: Crowley [pronounced Cr-ow-ley]. That's so weird now! That's so weird to say now. Crowley.
C: I mean, it's important to say so we don't get him mixed up with my specialest little girl.
G: Benny.
C:  Benny, yeah. I mean, these are all subtextual. Like, Sam's are like, actual.
G: That's true. Amara isn't. Amara isn't, but-
C: Yeah, Amara's- Yeah, there's something textual.
G: I mean, Cas isn't subtextual. Don't say that!
C: It's one-sided subtextual.
G: Booo! Yeah, it is. [both laugh] That is interesting. I suppose Sam has all the textual ones, and Dean has all the subtextual ones, and even the Amara stuff is like, presented as he doesn't like it.
C: Want it, yeah.
Dean says that Tessa can't kill the kid because demons are here and Cole knows where they are, so he can like, help stop them from killing more reapers. Sam tells Tessa that she should skip town. The whole time, right, like, Tessa's just like- she's very strongly like, [annoying voice] "No, I'm not going. You guys are stupid. Blah blah blah blah blah!" And she is talking like that. And like, "I don't give a shit about anything. I'm just trying to like, fix death in this town. Your whole angel-demon danceoff, I could care less." Blah blah blah, "No." And then, like, Dean, just goes like, "Okay, can you just wait until we fix this, pwease?" And she just switches her tune really fast, which I found annoying. Like, I wish there was more of a progression.
G: Honestly, because, like, the way it's presented is like, Dean getting away made her endeared to him.
C: Yeah, so it's like, he was like, "Pwease," and then she was like, "Yeah, okay, babe."
G: I don't even think that would be the case. Like, if you had a really bad day at work, [both laugh] and you try very hard to get this guy- You know what? Maybe they were like, "I had a bad day at work. What a weird time we were in together."
C: Maybe. I mean, I guess that's how they want to play it, so what-the-fuck-ever. And then she's like, "Just so we're clear, when I start reaping again, I'm starting with the kid," and she seems pretty excited about killing Cole. But then, when I say no internal consistency, it's mostly about this. Like, later, she's like, so compassionate, or like, nice or whatever to Cole, etc etc. And like, I guess we could think that that's like, an act, 'cause like, I think it's an act in this very next scene. But at the end, I think we're supposed to read it as like, genuine or whatever. Like, there's nothing to indicate that it's an act. And it's like, well, that doesn't jive with what she was saying earlier. So like, yeah, I mean, she's just a tool this episode. She's not a character.
G: But it also does paint the whole trying to convince Dean thing fascinating, because, like-
C: True, she does have a history of like, putting on acts in order to get people to agree to die. Yeah, I guess maybe we were just supposed to know based on that that she was putting on an act. But, like, it's still like, supposed to be like, this beautiful moment or whatever whatever whatever, so I don't know.
Sam's like, "Okay, I'm gonna find the kid and get this info," and Dean's like, "What are you gonna say to him?" And Sam says, "Whatever I have to."
G: This scene is like- is it necessary? Like, I think about it, and I'm like, "Why is Samm doing this?"
C: I don't- I feel that there are other ways to get the kid to like, tell you where the smoke was. Yeah, no, Sam jumps to this solution really fast, and I think it's just to like, you know, help with the whole, "Sam, you might have good intentions, you think, but you're actually like, bad, and the lengths to which you're willing to go to like, do whatever hunting thing, get Lilith, whatever, is too much!" But it did feel pretty jarring and not in like a "It's intentional and like, in a good way" way. It's like, "It's intentional in a bad way" way.
Sam goes upstairs to Cole's room. Cole is in the closet. Slay. He's like, trying to do this sympathetic thing where he's like, "Oh, this must all be really overwhelming and scary." Cole's like, "It's really difficult to see my mom like, come in here and tell me how sad she is, and like, I'll move stuff so that she knows that I'm here, but that just makes her more sad." And Cole says that he's not gonna tell Sam where the smoke is, and then Sam pauses for a second, and then he's like, "Hey, what if I told you that if you helped me, you wouldn't have to leave here, ever." Like, "Oh, no reaper would bother you. You're safe from Tessa. You can just stay here with your family for as long as you wanted. I can do that for you." And Cole makes him promise, and he does, and it's just like- yeah, it just feels like a forced setting up something.
G: I suppose it was odd to me 'cause like, I never even really thought of Cole as like, someone who desperately wanted to stay.
C: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like that was not set up at all.
G: Obviously, when the reaper was reaping him, he didn't want to go. But, like, now he has seen his mother, and like, now he has seen how- I mean, he mentions, right, like, "I tried to move around stuff, but she just gets lonelier and lonelier."
C: Yeah, like, I don't see why he would want to stick around. Besides, I guess, just that he's scared of death, which is like, the point of the episode or whatever, but like, he doesn't even say that. It's odd. And also it's like, there's no real follow-through. Like, Sam's the one who does this, and like, Sam doesn't seem to have any like, rough feelings about it later. Like, Dean's the one who's like, "Cas, it's so bad that people are gonna die now," and like, Dean's the one who's with Tessa when she finally takes Cole, so it's like, if you're like, putting like, the like, moral grayness of this on Sam, then like, it should end with Sam. But Sam just like, fucks off after the funeral home.
G: I don't think Sam even knows that this happened, if I'm being fucking for real. [both laugh]
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G: Tessa and Dean are in the kitchen, still talking. It starts this thing where, like, Tessa is like, saying, like, "Oh, life's so funny! You and me together again." And Dean asks, "Are you making a move on me?" And she goes, "You're the one that got away. You'd be surprised how little that happens to me." Fun. And then Dean asks, "Can I tell you something? Between you and me?" which did remind me of the whole, you know-
C: 4.07.
G: "if you promise not to tell another soul." And Tessa's response is "Who am I gonna tell?" Which is also interesting.
C: Yeah. What about the reaper Discord?
G: Yeah. 'Cause like, what are reapers? Reapers are a separate thing from demons and angels?
C: Later, they're retconned to be angels, but like, currently, they're not.
G: Yeah, exactly, right? I think about like, what is the social dynamic of angelhood? Like, if you say that Cas, and Cas goes, "Who am I gonna tell?" Cas in the future, probably, like, that's true. Cas now is like, well, he has many people to tell, actually. Like, he could tell Uriel or something. His cohorts in heaven. But like, with Tessa, who, I mean, at this point, not written to be an angel, so does Tessa not have anyone? You know. Like, are reapers more isolated, individual, solo-flying creatures than angels and- well, than angels? We don't really see the social aspect of demons that much. Well, I thought it was interesting. But Dean says that "After our little experience, for a whole year after that, I just had this hole in my gut," which, you know, you cannot just- What's that line Sam says? "I know that you have a hole in you-"
C: And you can't just like, shove stuff-
G: Keep filling it up, yeah. Wonderful sentence. But he goes, "I was missing something. I didn't know what, but you know what it is? It was you." And I was like, "Oh my god, that's such a romantic thing to say!" And then he goes, "The pain of everything I experienced. I just wish I was dead for good." [laughs] And I was like, "Good lord." Yeah, and he goes, "Yeah, I guess things are different now, though." And Tessa asks about like, "Oh, is it the angel on your shoulder?" And yeah, this is our reveal that Tessa knows, although we don't really do anything about it. Yeah. Dean says, "Yeah. Don't get me wrong, most of the angels I've met are dicks with wings." I suppose that is "most" meaning Uriel and Cas. He says he's done horrible things, but someone upstairs still decided he deserves a second chance. It makes him feel- "I don't know." And then Sam comes down, disturbs this conversation, and Tessa does this whole thing where she introduces herself to Cole. I find this so odd. 'Cause Sam goes like, "Okay, Cole. Just tell them what you told me," and it's like, [both] "You could've just told just told them." You're expo- It's so odd. Why are you doing this, Sam? He says, "I saw the black smoke at my funeral, at the funeral home. It was everywhere." And then suddenly, lights start flickering, and the front door swings open, and then black smoke everywhere. It like, covers everything, and then when it disappears, Tessa is gone. Dean is like, "Oh my god! Like, how the hell are we supposed to fight that?" And Sam's like, "Oh, maybe we should learn some ghost moves." And Dean goes, "By tonight? Yeah, sure, I'll meet you back at Mister Miyagi's." And the kid goes, "Who's Mister Miyagi?" This is a- what?
C: Karate Kid?
G: - Karate Kid reference, maybe?
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C: Okay, what we have next is this sort of fun, like, training montage of Sam and Dean learning how to ghostfight.
G: It is pretty fun!
C: Yeah. I was amused. Like, I'm glad they didn't like, push too hard the "And everything they're doing is to try to kill Cole eventually" angle, because I feel like it would have been a bit overdone. I feel like it just works as a thing that's sort of in the back of your mind while you watch them have fun and goof around.
G: Yeah. Also, yeah, Sam does mention here like, Cole's twelve. You're right. I don't know. I wish they just hired an actor who looks a bit younger.
C: I mean, this is a twelve-year-old to me. Why not?
G: I mean, this kid, I think, acts well. I think-
C: We can probably look up this kid's age. But okay, when we're doing the IMDb thing, so we don't spoil ourselves, we can figure out how old this kid was in 2009. First step of the training montage, Dean's concentrating really, really hard to try to get a windmill to turn, and he does like, an okay job, but it's a lot of effort. And, you know, Cole's cocky, Cole's having a great time, and he is able to move a bunch of shit outside. And then inside, Cole is punching Sam. [laughs] It's great. Apparently, if you feel angry, then like, that causes you to be able to make contact, or whatever the fuck, though we don't really get into what makes Cole angry, and I feel like that could be an interesting way to go with his character. But eh, whatever. We've got limited time. So he tells Dean to hit him, and you know, Dean's like, "I'll stick to someone my own side," and then Cole like, just punches Dean in the face. It's great. Then Cole tells Sam to hit him, and, you know, Sam says that he's not gonna Fight Club a twelve-year-old, and then Cole gets Sam in the face! And Sam's like, sort of laughing, and he's like, "Alright, alright! Cut it out." And then at Cole's next punch at Sam, Sam is like, fully ready to throw hands with a twelve-year-old, but Cole disappears and then reappears across the room to escape that. It's fun. [G: Yeah.] I liked the way Sam was laughing on "Alright, cut it out." Like, yeah. They could have had a good, fun time as ghosts together.
G: You know what would fix- [laughs] You know what would fix Sam and Dean?
C: Like, if they had younger sibling.
G: Is if they had another younger brother. [laughs]
C: I mean, they do have one, and it doesn't fix anything. [G laughs]
G: No, Adam is a middle brother.
C: Really?
G: I think. Is that true? I think that's a lie and I'm lying to you.
C: Adam is the youngest. Wasn't he studying biology, like, as an undergrad?
G: He was 19. He was like, 19. Yeah. Damn. Well, they should have played-fight with Adam, and maybe it would have fixed everything.
G: Yeah, I'm assuming they real-fight with the ghoul that looks like Adam. But yeah. You know, Dean wants Cole to teach him that particular trick, and supposedly, he does.
G: Yeah. And then, you know, we are walking towards the funeral home, and we see the outside, and it's completely covered in this, like, glowing diagrams of sigils on the wall. You know, Sam and Dean figure that this is something that only, like, people in the veil can see 'cause, you know, they wouldn't be able to see this IRL. And as they go along, they go inside, and there is this like, room that's just massive and unoccupied by anything else, and there is a sigil on the floor, and inside this giant sigil is Tessa and this other guy, who is, I suppose, the older reaper. And there's a guy standing guard. So like, there's a fight scene where this guy gets beat up. Like, they don't see Sam and Dean, right? Like, this guy doesn't see Sam and Dean.
C: Yeah, yeah, no, they're both invisible-punching him, and it's pretty funny.
G: Yeah. More people come in, and they get trapped. Like, this is a trick. They got tricked into attacking this guy and then getting- and then, like, a bunch of people come in with like, this iron chains, and then they get trapped inside an iron chain circle, or- not circle. Whatever. Just a place. And then a man comes in. Familiar face to me and to you, and to anyone who has seen an ounce of "On a Head of a Pin." It's Alastair in his like, final form.
C: Yeah. His voice is great. I can't imitate it, but it's wonderful.
G: Yeah, it's wonderful. It's a combination of like, voice quality of the actor and like, the accent he's putting on. I mean, I'm not sure if it's like, an accent he's putting on or if he just speaks like this. If he does, wonderful thing to to speak like in real life. But, you know, if he isn't-
C: Good job.
G: - wonderful accent to put on for this character. It's like this drawl. It's very drawly. But it's not like- 'cause there's the Southern drawl. I feel like I know what that sounds like. This is not that. It's something else. More bassy. Very good. Very good. I feel like Alastair's voice, this vessel, specifically, is one of those things that, like, you'll recognize it. Like, you hear it once and like, you recognize it. Do you understand what I mean? It's like, you could forget Supernatural for all of its worth, but like, you hear that voice, and you're like, "Oh, that's like, a demon from Supernatural or something."
C: So true.
G: It's so recognizable. I mean, we're gonna talk about it next episode 'cause it is the next episode, but in "On the Head of a Pin," I mean, that episode is constantly referred to as like, one of the best of Season 4 and one of the best of Supernatural because it's so atmospheric, and like, that's a big part of what makes it so good. The atmosphere. And I do think that a lot of the atmosphere is brought by the Alastair actor. Like, he slays this role so hard.
C: Good. So Alastair gets a gun full of rock salt or whatever the fuck, and then he shoots Dean, and he says something about how "Rock salt's not so much fun anymore, is it?" which I wish that there was an episode where it was like, they were the monsters or whatever or like, got more empathy for the people that they hunt, and like, there was a chance for that here, but it's not really a thing. This is just the one line. Unforch. Sam is unable to use his powers because he's not in his body or whatever. Alastair says that Hell keeps sending him back up here, even though he's not that into it, to get him to break seals. For this one he has to kill death twice. He has to kill two reapers. Which, again. Out of nowhere.
G: Literally, like, there's no foreshadowing for this.
C: Truly out of nowhere. He rock salts Sam and tells Dean that it's good to see him again. Dean says, "You can shoot us all you want, but you can't kill us." and Alastair is like, "Oh, are you sure about that?" So like, we're supposed to assume that what's happening in the motel room next-
G: - is gonna kill like, their bodies, yeah.
C: Yeah. But like, is that what the demon's goal seems to be? It's a pretty disjointed fight scene, so I can't really tell, but-
G: I mean, it can either be like, kill Sam and Dean's bodies, or kill Pamela-
C: So then they can't be brought back ever.
G: - so she can't get them back to their bodies.
C: Yeah, that'd be pretty cool if they were stuck as ghosts forever. In the motel, we just cut briefly to, you know, Pamela sitting there, and then there's sounds, so then she locks the door, but there's a window open, and there's wind outside.
G: Alastair, like, holds a scythe. Is it not Sith? Is that a different thing?
C: I think it's scythe.
G: I think Sith is like, from fucking Star Wars. Dean makes a comment of like, "Oh, really? You're gonna feel a reaper with that? Little on the nose, huh?" Alastair says, "An old friend lent it to me. You know, he doesn't really ride a pale horse, but he does have three amigos." Fun! Fun stuff.
C: Yeah. "They're just jonesing for the Apocalypse." [G: So like-] Yeah, he's friends with Death. Imagine being a regular person who dies and was kind of shitty, so you become a demon in Hell, and now you're like, friends with literal Death.
G: Also, I don't remember much of what Death is like in Season 5. I remember some of Famine, but like, in just like, a weird, roundabout way of like, "I know that Famine like, wanted to do the Apocalypse," and I think pestilence also wanted to do the Apocalypse. What's the other fucking-
C: War.
G: War? I don't even remember if we had a War in this thing.
C: I also don't.
G: I mean, we definitely did, 'cause the whole point was collecting the four rings. Death, I feel like, was a lot more-
C: Neutral?
G: - neutral on the whole Apocalypse thing. But from what we hear here, like, I mean, he did offer this scythe, and that is to lead directly to the breaking of the seal, which would lead directly to the Apocalypse, so I suppose.
C: Yeah, I prefer a neutral Death as a character, but if we're doing this, okay.
G: Yeah, I do also prefer a neutral Death. Because, you know, War and Famine and Pestilence are like, bad things, you know. But like, Death is universal.
Alastair pulls up the old guy reaper. He doesn't wake up because he's irrelevant to this fucking episode, and he starts chanting. I don't know. He like- how does he kill? Like, he just slashes with the scythe?
C: Yeah, he just slashes his neck.
G: Sam and Dean notice that there's a chandelier over this sigil. As the reaper grabs Tessa, who wakes up, Sam and Dean are able to chandelier that thing down. It like, breaks the seal of the sigil. Tessa is able to get out. Also, like, in the motel room, we are seeing stuff happening, where like, Pamela. like, closes the window, goes to the bathroom, you know, nobody's there. But then, you know, she leaves the bathroom. There's a demon in the hotel room. There's this little moment where she's like, pretending to not notice, and then she runs up to Sam and starts reciting the chant that like, supposed to bring him back. But Pamela gets dragged up in everything.
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C: Okay, we cut outside the funeral home, and Sam is gone. So Dean tells Tessa to get out of here, he'll find Sam. In the motel room, what has happened is that Pamela was able to wake Sam up, finally. However, in the course of her fight with the demon, she gets stabbed in the stomach. RIP.
G: RIP.
C: Sam exorcises the daemon with his powers and shit, and then, again, the vessel seems to die from Sam like, flinging it against the wall. RIP. Pamela is laughing, but like, clearly not in like, a good way, and she's saying that she can't die in this town. There's no blood from her injury. Sam is worried about her, and he's saying, like, "You need a doctor." I like how that line was delivered. I don't know. He was very niceys about it. Pamela's like, "No, let's just- just make me a drink." What is the reasoning here? What's like, going on with Pamela internally?
G: That like, she wants to save Dean versus go to- Yeah, I don't know.
C: What do you mean save Dean? She could just wake him up, like, right now. [G: Yeah.] They just wanted her die. I don't know. It's just like, "It's like, useless or whatever, so I'll die anyway"? Like, "No hospital can help."
G: Yeah. 'Cause like, the moment she gets out of this place and another reaper finds her, she'll get reaped. But also, like, you can still treat the wound, I think.
C: Yeah, I also think that you can. The issue is just that you'll just start bleeding again, but if you bandage up the area, once you start bleeding again, it'll be less bad or something, right?
G: No, it probably will be. I mean, we saw how it bled out when it started bleeding out.
C: That's true.
G: But like, you don't know that from just getting stabbed. Or maybe you do. I've never been stabbed, so I don't know.
C: Yeah, like, she's just super certain that it's like, bad enough that she would die, no matter what?
G: Yeah, perhaps.
C: I don't know that you'd know that, but like, maybe she does know that.
Dean is outside walking, and then Alastair appears and says, like, "You can't run. Not from me. I'm inside that angsty little noggin of yours." And then Alastair gets struck by lightning and just is gone. And Dean, [laughs] very confused, looks around, [both] goes, "What the hell?" And then from behind him, a voice says, "Guess again."! And he turns around, and it's Cas!!! Well.
G: Cas thinks he's so funny. He thinks he's so funny.
C: And he is! And he is!
G: He's wonderful.
C: Ah! He's so babygirl. And he's not even- he's not even looking at Dean when he says it. Like, Dean turns around, and then, like, there's like, a beat before Cas looks up to meet his gaze, which I think is great.
G: Yeah.
C: He's just like me for real, he's wonderful! He's wonderful!
G: I mean, we make jokes that like, Cas is saying this because he thinks he's so fun and cool and fresh or whatever, but like, it really does feel like such a practiced stint. Because, like, later, we see Cas in this scene, and he's just- we have this like, shot that's like, far away, so it's full body, and Cas is just standing there like, bad posture, hands on his side, and I did have the thought "He's not used to his body yet." Like, he hasn't grown into this body yet. First, because, like, it's not his yet, it's still like, a vessel. Like, Jimmy's still in there. Oh, god! We're gonna have the Jimmy episode this season!
C: We sure are.
G: I completely fucking forgor. It's that- and like, you know, 'cause like, later on in the show, like, Cas's body is his body, and like, I think we see that on screen that that's him. Like, he exists in this physical form. And like, you know, that's a thing that the angels insult him for in "Lily Sunder" and everything. But here, it is very much like, Cas isn't used to his body yet. So during moments where he has, like, a very specific, timed move, all I can think of is like, "He's doing that on purpose." Like, he's thinking about that. This, like, physical form doesn't come naturally to him. He has to think about it and adjust to it and everything. [both] Cas!
C: Ah! We cut to a little bit later, Cas says, like, "What just happened? You and Sam just saved a seal. We captured Alastair. Dean. this was a victory." He does seem really like, sincere and like, a little bit proud about all of that. Yeah, but also, he's trying to convince Dean of it, because, I guess, during the time cut, Dean yelled at him, or whatever. And, you know, his head is tilted in the beautiful way that it is.
G: Yeah. I have a bookmark that is- [laughs] It's basically a a photo card. Like, I printed a picture of Cas, and then I laminated it. Like, I la- I couldn't even go to the store, and like, have it laminated. [C laughs] I bought a laminating, like, sheet, and I laminated it myself, 'cause I was so embarrassed. [C laughing] But yeah. Apparently, you can just iron that shit together, and then it gets laminated.
C: Nice! Good to know.
G: Fun stuff. And it's this scene. It's Cas like, tilting his head that way.
C: Aw! God bless.
Dean says, "Well, no, thanks to you." And Cas, you know, with his his head tilted, goes, "What makes you say that?" Ah! He's soo cute. He's so cute. Dean seems genuinely upset about this. I think it's the way the street lights work; it's making his eyes look wet, so like, it looks like he's like, on the verge of tears, even though he isn't. And he goes, "You were here the whole time?" Huh! That is interesting because it's like, we've seen- Like, first off, Cas did help. He just zapped that guy for you. Be grateful. Secondly, like, I don't know why Dean would expect help given that like, they haven't had help in the past, either, right? Like, 4.02, he had this argument with Cas as well. He was like, "There were people down here dying," and Cas was like, "I was busy, bitch." Like-
G: I mean, even then, Dean was upset. So this is just not-
C: This is the same thing.
G: He hasn't learned to not be upset about it yet.
C: Yeah. I don't know. I guess, like, he has been hinging a lot of his like, willingness to live on like, "The angels have like, a personal investment in me. Like, they wanna help me specifically."
G: Yeah. [makes emotional sounds]
C: So I guess Cas being here the whole time but not helping him would not help with, like, what he's trying to use as his will to live.
G: No, but it's crazy, because, like, you know, in 4.02, it's like, "Angels are supposed to be good, and there's people dying out here!" And then here, the argument is, "But I was suffering. Like, I was shot with that rock salt."
C: Yeah, "You like me, right?"
G: Yeah. And then, you know, I mean, it's not even "You like me, specifically."
C: It's just "I'm special."
G: It's that "The angels have an investment in me 'cause I'm special." And then, you know, just off the top of my head, like, in Season 12, when Cas, like, goes to Heaven to track Kelly or something, and Dean gets mad at him, like, the upset is now, like, "But you! Like, you, Cas, you're supposed to be with us and helping us," and like, I don't know. The progression of that does make me emo a little bit.
C: Okay. [laughs] Sorry. So true. Um.
G: Well, it is true.
C: Yeah. The other ingredient in this is that like, Dean was being cornered by like, Alastair-
G: Yeah, specifically.
C: - and another part, Dean was like, "I've done really horrible things in Hell, but also, like-" I think he just meant "in Hell" when he was talking to Tessa. But like, I would argue also as a person on Earth. And it was like, "And despite all of that, like, someone upstairs wanted to save me," etc etc. So I guess like, Alastair coming in and trying to force Dean to confront that past, and then, like, Cas showing up and zapping Alastair, and Cas being one of the few beings alive who does know about the Hell torture and doesn't judge Dean for it, like, I guess that that is another ingredient to this soup that is fun. He's angy. And Cas, says, like, "Enough of it." and looks away. I don't- is this like, meant to be like, shame? Or-
G: I don't think so.
C: Yeah, it doesn't feel like it. But he does look away. It could be more of a like, "Okay, here goes a conversation I don't really want to engage in." sort of looking away too.
G: Yeah, pretty much.
C: Yeah. Well, first, Dean says, "Well, thanks for your help with the rock salt." It was- like, the rock salt? Like, was getting shot like, that bad? It's the iron chain that was like, the main issue that was like, keeping you from like, saving everyone.
G: No, I mean, this is what's fascinating to me. Because he's complaining about like, what hurt, not what like, actually lessened their chances of winning.
C: Yeah, yeah. So it is like a- It's a personal thing, yeah.
G: Yeah. Like you said, if he really was upset, it's like, "Well, what about the iron chain that kept us there? Like, we almost- he almost got Tessa."
C: Yeah, we almost didn't make it. The seal could've been broken. But it's not about that.
G:  And it's about like, "Well, I was in pain!"
C: "You let me get a boo-boo!" [both laugh] Yeah. Cas, who's still like, squimting a bit as he talks-
G: [giggling] I'm literally giggling. Well, it's important to me! I love you. I love you, Cas.
C: Yeah. Yeah. He says, "That script on the funeral home, we couldn't penetrate it." And it's nice that he says that because, like, I feel like maybe, like, a little earlier in the season, Cas just would have been like, "Don't care. Go away." But like, this is- like, he is just stating a fact, but it is a fact that implies like, "If we could have, we would have helped." That's nice. And I think that that does like, cause Dean to soften like, a little bit.
G: Of course, yeah.
C: Like, it is meaningful to Dean that this is the case.
G: Oh, god! I'm thinking about- 'cause here, the line is, "The script on the funeral home, we couldn't penetrate it." The next line is "That's why we recruited you." Like, "The reason why we recruited you in the first place is because we couldn't get in there." And it's like, "The only reason why I put you in that danger is because it's essential, like, we had no choice." And then next episode, we get Cas saying, "If it means anything, [overlapping] I would give everything not to have you do this."
C: That is true. [G makes pained sound] Well.
G: God! And then at the end of this season- oh, we'll get into it at the end of the season.
C: Yeah. It'll happen.
G: Good lord!
C: Cas asks, yeah, "Why do you think I recruited you and Sam in the first place?" Dean is like, "Huh? What do you mean?" And, you know, Cas drops the reveal that he was just imitating Bobby's voice on the phone to Sam. Hil-ar-ious. So so so funny. Dean's like, "If you wanted our help, then why didn't you just ask?" And, you know, Cas gets this really annoyed look, and he goes, "Because whatever I ask, you seem to do the exact opposite." Is that true? When did that happen?
G: I mean in Samhain, Cas tells him to leave.
C: Yeah, but he said he secretly wanted-
G: But that's an order. That's an order. I mean, what else did he ask?
C: I mean, I'm sure there's something, we just forgor.
G: "Give me Anna"?
C: They didn't give Anna over, yeah. That's what he says. And then Dean is like, "So, okay, so people in this town are just gonna start dying again?" And, you know, Cas, no hesitation, no blinking, just goes, "Yes." God bless. I love him so much. One day, you're going to heal babies in the park, Cas. Dean is like, "What? Can't you make a few exceptions? Like, these are good people." And Cas says, "To everything, there is a season," which is Ecclesiastes 3:1, baby! What is the stance of the Bible in Supernatural verse? Like, it happened, right?
G: I suppose so. They did Sodom and Gomorrah that thing.
C: Yeah, and Cas said, like, "Read the Bible. Angels are warriors" or whatever, yeah.
G: What's the- 'cause, you know, if it happens in history, like, fine, you know it. But like, are the angels also imbued with like, what people know from the Bible? 'Cause those are different things.
C: Oh, wait, what do you mean?
G: Cas can quote, like, a specific event from the Bible, if, for example, he was there.
C: Which means he's read- Yeah, but this line means he's read the Bible.
G: But here, it's a quote from- yeah. Like, directly from the Bible, so like, mm. I don't know!
C: Well, maybe he was just there listening when King David said that shit.
G: Slay.
C: Yeah, he probably does read the Bible sometimes.
G: Hell yeah.
C: Though I don't know why he would have by now. Maybe, like, the angels have a book club about it where they like, laugh at the inaccuracies.
G: Uriel would be heading it. Funniest angel in the garrison and everything.
C: Exactly. And then Dean says - crazy line. He says, "You made an exception for me." There's a pause, and Cas has not been looking at Dean, but like, during this pause, he turns his head all the way around and looks at him and says, "You're different." Crazy line! [G exclaims] And I know it is about the Michael vessel shit, but sure are lines that were said. And then, like, it's the fact that, at this, like, Cas disappears, and then Tessa reappears directly in his spot, and, like, Tessa, is someone who has, like, pretty strong subtextual romantic and sexual, like, whatever with Dean, and like, it is the fact that, like, Cas says this shit, disappears, and then there's like, an acceptable-ish object of desire, who appears, like, right there in his spot. Like, interesting- interesting choices!
G: 'Cause, also, like, the shot before the "You're different" part is like- Like I said, the far away shot with Cas bad posture, etc. And then, like, Tessa appears, and then, like, Dean notices Tessa, and then we cut back to that shot, and it's like, the exact same shot, like, with the camera. And Tessa is standing in the exact position Cas is in. Like, I cannot reiterate how much this isn't a "Tessa is also there in the general area," like, she's in the exact same spot Cas was standing in. And like, it does make me feeeeel crazy. [laughs] Oh, Cas!
C: Yeah. Cas.
G: You know, one thing I do miss about Season 4 specifically- I feel like in Season 5, this becomes really less of the case, but in Season 4 specifically, Cas just shows up for so little in episodes, you know, because it's not like- it's not like, in the contract that Cas needs to be in this many episodes for this amount, like, you know, it is in future seasons when [disgusted voice] Misha Collins [both fake-vomit] becomes, like, you know, a regular in the cast. So here, it's like, "We just throw Cas in when we need him," and he's gonna be here for, what? Five minutes? Even less? But like, that's his whole thing. And I mean, it does make sense because, like, here, you know, Cas is more of a- has that role in the story of like, someone who just shows up for little bits, and then, like, gives these kinds of information for little sections of time. But, you know, in the future, of course, Cas is a more prominent role in the show. But like, it does feel obvious, you know, like, there are times in the future where like, why can't we just have like, one scene of Cas being like, "Oh, yeah, I don't want to go to that hunt. [C laughs] Good luck, though." You know? [laughs] I mean, the "You're different" line is- this is crazy! I literally hauve Destiel forever. [laughing]
C: Happy for you.
G: But like, I think about the fact that the "You're different" is obviously like, "You're different because you're the Michael's vessel, so in that way, you're different for us." But also, like, Dean is different for like, Cas, specifically. Cas has a personal, profound bond with Dean, just given the fact that- I mean, I'm not even counting the raising from perdition thing. I'm just thinking like, this is like, someone who saved his life, like, saved Cas's life when he absolutely didn't have to and probably had good reason not to in 4.10. This is someone that Cas has bared his soul to in 4.07.
C: Have we had "See, he has this weakness. He likes you." from Uriel already?
G: Oh, yeah! Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. In 4.10 as well. Yeah, Dean is different because all of those things to all of Heaven, but also, Dean is different to Cas because Cas is fond of him. Oh, Cas.
C: Yeah. Oh, Cas. Sorry that you're gonna spend a decade running after a man who wears jeans.
G: From Kansas, even.
C: From Kansas, even.
G: Where is Ka- I mean, I know Kansas is like, right smack in the middle of the mainland United States because that's where the bunker is. Sometimes I think about Cas this season, and I think about, "Is there like foreshadowing for what occurs in the finale?"
C: Oh, yeah.
G: Here, I don't even think- not yet. I feel like that shit happens mostly in the "Cas was gonna go to Dean in the Jimmy episode and then was hauled back to Heaven and got, I don't know, conversion therapied up there." I always thought of Season 4 as a very loaded emotionally season for the both of them, like, in their relationship, but really, like, in this parts of the show- I'm sorry. I mean, I don't know why I'm saying "I'm sorry," but like, it really is less, like, emotional and more the physicality of it.
C: What do you mean? Just their body language?
G: Body language, also, like, specifically how their scenes are filmed. Their scenes are filmed in such a specific way, 'cause like, what they're trying to convey is like, Cas is this like, ethereal creature, and this is like a, "Whoah," like a- you know. It's supposed to be charged in that way. But because it always happens in the dark, in the quiet, in like, those places where, you know, the kitchen scene was like, darkly lit, very quiet. And this scene, darkly lit, very quiet. It just feels so like, intimate. The result of it feels so intimate. Later, we have that scene with like, the crane shot-
C: Oh, god.
G: - where they're like, in this abandoned- not abandoned lot. Like, in the car lot. I think it's in Bobby's backyard or something. That's also dark-lit and everything. Again, it's something that is, I think, very Season 4-specific. They kind of let that whole thing go in future seasons. But I don't know, I feel like Dean and Cas, their story really started out with the sexual tension of it all.
C: So true.
G: 'Cause like, I mean, the kitchen scene is still one of their most, like, Destiel scenes, you know?
C: It's very horny.
G: We have so many seasons' worth of this show. Years' worth of this show. And that one is the one that's like, "Oh. Okay. So they do want to fuck each other. Okay, noted!" And, I don't know. The fact that it comes so early in the story and precedes all of the emotional stuff is so interesting to me.
C: Yeah.
G: I mean, we know from, like, you know, forums and everything that the moment the episode dropped, like, people were like, "Oh." Like, you know, "Lazarus Rising" dropped, people were like, "Oh. Is something on there?" But is the pivoting to a more emotional connection, a result of trying to like, un-homo it?
C: Huh!
G: Do you understand what I mean?
C: Yeah, like, if they're friends, that's like, chiller than the way they are standing less than a foot away from each other, staring at each others' mouths all the time.
G: [laughs] Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. 'Cause like, that dynamic really does change in later seasons, I feel. It becomes more like, again, like I said, it becomes more emotional. Familiar, I suppose, is the proper term. Instead of Cas being this like, foreign entity to Dean that always keeps him on his toes and everything.
C: Yeah.
G: Yeah. I don't know. I have a lot of Destiel thoughts with this scene.
C: Congrats. Yeah.
G: Thank you.
C: I mean, Cas is pretty hot there. So, so true.
G: Cas is such a wonderful, wonderful character! I hauve Castiel, forever.
C: Yeah.
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C: So we're in Cole's house again, and, you know, his mom's crying over a photo book of them, and Cole is watching, and Tessa shows up wearing a fucking white nightgown 'cause why not? Dean is also there. And Cole somehow seems to sense-
G: Why, even? Why the change of outfit? Why the everything? Why?
C: I don't know. I don't know. Like, that's her like, work uniform? Before, she was just in her casual clothes at home? I don't know. It's for the visual whatever whatever, and I think it's dumb. I mean, it happened in 2.01 as well. Like, she was like, pretending to be another like, hospital patient, and then, like, once she's revealed as a reaper, like, she like, gets this black dress or whatever, right?
G: Yeah yeah yeah.
C: Yeah, it's just a fucking thing. And Cole is just somehow able to automatically tell that this means that she's gonna come and like, send him to the afterlife. He looks at Dean, and he says, "Tell your brother thanks for nothing, "and that's just like, the only payoff we get to like, that whole moral dilemma setup. Not particularly satisfying, I would say. And then Tessa goes for the angle where it's like, "Look, your mom is so unhappy, and as long as she can feel you, she'll be in pain because she can't let go because you won't let go of her," but I mean, she says it all in like, a very nice, compassionate, whatever voice. And then- ugh! So, you know, Cole is like, "Why won't anybody tell me what's on the other side?" Did he- he didn't even ask anybody during this episode, did he?
G: He literally did not.
C: Yeah. [laughs] Whatever. Maybe he just means like, adults in his life from when he was growing up. Dean says that reapers will never answer your questions, "But trust me, staying here is a whole lot worse than anything over there." Dean has been to Hell.
G: That's literally not true. That's not true. That's a lie, you're lying to him.
C: Maybe he assumes Cole would like, go to Heaven, but like, they don't know people get sorted. Like, maybe you're sending this twelve-year-old to go get tortured on the racks. Yeah, Cole asks why it's worse, and Dean says, "Because one day, your family will be gone, and there'll be nothing left here for you." Harsh! And also, again, doesn't work very well when the only family we've seen is like, his mom who has no personality. Like, I think that if they'd given Cole, like, a sibling, like, this, would have fixed the episode, or at least this strand of the episode.
G: [laughs] Just make him Dean Winchester?
C: No, I wasn't thinking that. I just think like- for him to not want to leave his family- like, I don't know. The thing with the mom and not wanting to leave her, it feels like that dumb, patronizing thing where, like, you know, like, your dad leaves and then he tells like, his eight-year-old son, like, "You're the man of the house now. Take care of your mom for me now," you know? That's like, your mom. But like, if he had like, a sibling of a similar age to him, that'd be like, "That's like, an equal, and like, a friend that I want to stay with," and like, I don't know, that would make more sense to me and like, also just flesh out the not wanting to leave your family thing in general. There's this whole conversation that, like, they make it seem like it's like, the moral of the episode, but like, there was literally nothing about this earlier, so like, it's not? [laughs] Where like, Dean's like, "It's okay to be scared. We're all scared. That's the big secret. We're all scared." That's not a big secret. Everyone knows that it's scary to die? What's the- how is this like, the thing of the episode?
G: I mean, Supernatural usually does have this issue where, like, they have an episode, and then they throw, like, so many things at it. Like, it's not cohesive because they're like, "And here's the moral of the story," and you're like-
C: "No?"
G: - "I think ten minutes ago, you said a different moral." [both laugh] So I don't know what's up with that.
C: I had no idea that people were scared of death. So glad I learned this from the CW’s Supernatural in the year 2023. [G laughs] Cole asks if Dean's coming with him, and Dean's like, "No, but I'm sure I'll be there sooner than you think," and he went and lived for like, eleven more years, unfortunately. There's like, this thing where, like, Cole dies by like, hugging Tessa, and then he like, melts into her.
G: Yeah. It's so odd!
C: It's strange. Yeah.
G: No, because the thing is like, they have a reaper, and she's a woman [C laughs], and it's like, "How I'm going to reap you is to like, be the embodiment of womanhood."
C: To be motherly, yeah.
G: Like, with Dean, it's like, "I'm gonna kiss you." I mean, like, not to reap Dean, but, like, you know, she is seen as a romantic or sexual figure for him. And for this kid, it's like, "I'm a mother figure for you. I'm gonna hug you while you go into the void or whatever." And I don't know. I mean, do the male reapers-? [laughing]
C: Yeah. Yeah. Would you have kissed Dean?
G: There's that one guy in "Faith." Like, there's that one guy in "Faith." That guy should have kissed Dean or something. [C laughs]
C: But yeah, no, it's- yeah. And I guess, like, you could say, like, "Reapers decide like, what kind of role they want to take, and then they choose their form to suit it," but like, that's just making excuses. Supernatural, just like, casts people or thinks of characters and then will just like, do shit based off of what they think that someone who looks like that is supposed to do. It's annoying! I'm annoyed. Also, I don't know. We've already talked about this in “Roadkill,” but the way that they differentiate like, a good, peaceful death, like, looking like going into the light or something different than like, when they like, burn a ghost's body and they're like, screaming and all that shit. I don't like that. I think all deaths should look the same. Maybe it's like, there's one look that's like, "when you die and go to Heaven," and one look when you die and go to Hell?
G: I mean, the thing is because they don't treat those ghosts as people. They just don't.
C: Yeah, they are the monster of the week.
G: Yeah, they think of them as "They're a monster." God. They really did tie up a chain around that guy's neck in "Yellow Fever" and did to him what horrible thing that killed him. Like, that's crazy.
C: Yeah. Yeah. Pretty bad.
G: I feel like if Supernatural interfaced with that ghost as "This is a person, this is a human soul," they would have not done that at all. So yeah, they just don't think of it that way in those episodes.
C: Yeah. And it's especially annoying because, like, the next thing that Tessa says, like, it would help like, her case if like, Cole's death looked horrific. The next thing that she like, really gets into is like, "Dean, you should look out for yourself, because, like, the thing that I see the most with death is that people lie to themselves about how like, people are in a better place now," etc etc. So like, so Cole's death should have looked bad. It should have looked like the death of every other ghost to like, hammer home the fact that, like, any lies you tell yourself about death aren't true. But like, no, like, he literally does like, hug her and go into the light. Like, that does not help your argument, Tessa. Or, that doesn't help your argument, Jeremy Carver, I suppose. Ugh! What an annoying man! Yeah, so that happens. That's how Cole dies dies. Tessa says, like, "I've been around death from the get-go. You know what I see most? Lies. You all lie to yourselves, Dean, because deep down, you're all scared." Where's any of this coming from" Whatever. She says that Dean, the thing he told her earlier where he thinks that the angels have something good in store for him, that is a lie, and he should know deep down that something bad is about to happen, because there's no such thing as miracles. And I mean, this is true. Michael vessel plotline is gonna whack him in the face. Dean asks, "What are you saying?" But she disappears.
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G: Yeah, we go back to the motel room, and Pamela is now finally summoning Dean into his body. After this, like, she goes to sit on Sam's bed. Sam is saying, like, "Yeah, like, don't worry. We're just gonna talk to Tessa and she's gonna hold off the reaping until you get better." And Pamela is like, "Nope. I think she's already back on it," and then we we see a shot of her hand over her wound, and like, blood is like, pouring out of this thing.
C: Yeah, I mean, Sam's natural order thing does stop being part of his, like, logic once it's someone close to him, which yeah, makes sense.
G: Yeah, that's how it goes.
C: That is how it goes.
C: And Dean finally awakes. And he's like, "What the fuck is happening?" And yeah. Pamela's dying. And Sam goes like, "You don't deserve this," and she goes, "Yeah, I don't. I told you I didn't want to do anything with this." [sad sound]
C: Sorry, Pamela.
G: And that, yeah, "Do me a favor. Tell that bastard Bobby Singer to go to Hell forever, introducing me to you two in the first place."
C: Unfortunately, we see him in Heaven, cracking open a cold one, so, doesn't happen.
G: I mean, we also see Pamela in Heaven, I think.
C: That's true.
G: Is that true?
C: Yeah, yeah, she's in "Dark Side of the Moon."
G: The bar? Yeah.
C: The bar is in Dean's mind. That's different. Or is she in a bar in "Dark Side of the Moon" also?
G: Holy shit! She was also in that fucking bar. That's crazy! In Dean's head, even. Well, I think she's also in "The Dark Side of the Moon." Dean says, "If it's any consolation, you're going to a better place," which is untrue. Fundamentally untrue.
C: Yeah, right after that conversation with Tessa, too? Come on!
G: It's such an odd thing- Dean, what are you doing?
C: It's just like, Jeremy Carver really wanted to be like, "And that was the lesson of the episode, you guys!" Okay, but you already taught that lesson to Dean, like, on my screen, so like, you don't have to have him do this?
G: And it's just I feel like it's such a horrible thing to do to someone dying.
C: - thing to say, yeah.
G: To like, spend their last few seconds on Earth giving them platitudes that you both know are not true?
C: Yeah. Like, he's approaching this like it's an awkward dinner and not like, her literal death.
G: Yeah. Pamela goes, "You're lying. But what the hell. Everybody's gotta go sometime." And she motions for Sam to come in close to her, and then she starts whispering, "I know what you did to that demon, Sam. I can feel what's inside you. If you think you have good intentions, think again." And this is the one that like, 'cause it's not talking about the actions or the anything. It's the intentions. Interesting wording, don't you think?
C: Yeah, yeah. I think it is about the like, Sam says that he's doing this to save people and like, to save the world, and that is true, but like, I think that at this point, the show thinks that he's mostly just doing it because of like, the addiction to the demon blood, so it's like, yeah, I mean, I think that's just the point of that line. Which, yeah, neat.
G: Yeah. She dies. Literally spends her dying breath telling Sam-
C: - to stop doing drugs, yeah.
G: - "You're evil." Dean asks, like, "What did she say to you?" And Sam doesn't respond, and that's the end of our episode.
C: Yeah. What'd you think about it?
G: I quite liked it. I think it's a nice way to be reintroduced to Supernatural after three months. Cold turkey. Cold turkey. I did not watch a single episode.
C: Mm. It was fine. I think it had a lot of concepts that were interesting and ways that it could have gone, and it just sort of touches on all them and doesn't really bring any to a particularly satisfying conclusion. Which, I mean, we all talked about during the episode already, so- Like, I can understand intellectually that it's one of the better Supernatural episodes, but like, it didn't really do anything for me, and that is perhaps concerning for the future 250 or whatever episodes we still have.
G: I mean, it is, but like, this isn't really credited as one of the best.
C: Yeah, just on the better half.
G: Hell yeah!
C: Best Line/Worst Line?
G:  I think I like Cas's "You're different," which is so corny! Like it's so corny that I like that one. But I do like it. I do like it.
G: What's your best line?
C: I liked when Cas quoted Ecclesiastes. It was fun. It gives him the correct vibe for Season 4 Cas.
G: Yeah. My worst line is of course, the Demi Moore line.
C: Yeah, and I suppose mine shall be the Victoria's Secret line so that we can cover our bases regarding Dean being an absolute creep, though, I mean also, the "If it's any consolation, you're going to a better place," pretty bad. Pretty worst.
G: Okay. What's our next segment?
C: Spread those sheets.
G: Spreadsheets?
C: Yeah.
G: Spread those sheets, baby.
C: Alright. So I would say that there's misogyny. I don't recall any racism or homophobia. How much misogyny is there? I need to recalibrate. Like, is this like- it feels quite bad, but is it like, not that bad and we just haven't been like, touching Supernatural for a while, or like, what's the sitch?
G: I think this one, I would rate it as-
C: 1 or 2, I guess, 'cause it's not intrinsic to the episode.
G: I think I'll rate it as a two.
C: Sounds good.
G: I'm including here also Tessa's characterization.
C: Yes, good point.
G: But, like, Tessa's characterization began in Season 2, Episode 1, so this is like, they're continuing with her stuff. But also, she didn't have to kiss Dean, and she didn't have to hug that kid.
C: She really did not have to. IMDb guess.
G: Oh, god.
C: Man. What the fuck are things rated as again? Okay, let's see. In the past, in Season 4, "Sex and Violence" got an 8.4. "After School Special" got an 8.6. "Criss Angel is a Douchebag" got a 7.9.
G: That's crazy. 7.9?
C: Yeah, people didn't like those gayass magicians.
G: And we rated it 8.4 and 8.5.
C: Yeah, I mean, we really liked it. Okay, I think people like this one.
G: I think for this one, I'd say it's an 8.2.
C: Okay. I was gonna go for like, more of an 8.5 'cause I think it's better- I think it would be more liked than "Sex and Violence" but not more liked than "After School Special."
G: Ooh! It's an 8.6.
C: Okay, okay. I was pretty close.
G: Pretty high.
C: That is a pretty high rating, yeah.
C: Oh, we can finally check how old that kid was. He was the voice of Nemo??
G: That's wonderful!
C: Okay, he's 29 now. Okay, he was like, 15 when this was- 14 or 15 when this was filmed. So, yeah, not 12.
G: This is so fascinating. Like, this review is called "Stop Lying to Yourself," and I have no idea what they're talking about, based on the review. [C laughing]
C: This person said that Pamela's death was the saddest thing on the show.
G: I mean, so far? 'Cause, I mean, it does feel like a very real death 'cause like, we're at her deathbed as she bleeds it out, and it's not like, immediate. It's not like, you know, like, she gets stabbed in and then dies, it's she gets stabbed, and then there's a time between, and she sits there and dies.
C: Yeah. That's fair. Yeah, that makes sense.
G: I mean, this one points out that Huggy Bear isn't like a "he's a cute bear" thing, and it's a reference to something.
C: What is it a reference to?
G: "The character of Huggy Bear was a 'street-wise, jive-talking' underground contact of Starsky and Hutch from the American 1970's TV show. It means more like informant. Even tho I can not deny that Dean antiquated language choice to Cas indeed interesting." [both laugh] So true!
C: Someone said, "Everyones favorite hot psychic Traci Dinwiddle is back as Pamela, and there is a very special Sexy-Woman-of-the-Week (not that Traci isn't) surprise in store." [both laughing] That is one way you could think about female characters on Supernatural. I suppose. I mean, they do do sexy womans of the week. Boy.
G: This one is saying that like, this season's recurrent plot of broken seals is getting boring.
C: Hmm. I mean, the rest of the show is the recurring plot of "There's a monster, and we have to kill it." [both laughing] Like, yeah.
G: Yeah! I mean, but there's 15 seasons of it, and we're gonna watch all of it, so really.
C: It's every single episode of Supernatural from start to finish. This is true! Okay.
G: Yeah, okay, well, that's it for this episode of Busty Asian Beauties. Next time, we'll be talking about Season 4, Episode 16: "On the Head of a Pin." C: Whoo!
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G: Wow! We're like, thinking of this shit. What's wrong with us?
C: It's because we actually tried for RubbishPod, so. [laughs]
G: Yeah, so now we're inclined to try. Wow.
C: Yeah. Yeah.
G: Who'd have thunk?
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G: Isn't there an Eve in Supernatural? Mother of monsters?
C: There's not an Eve, it's- yes, there is an Eve, actually. She's the mother of all monsters or something, right? Isn't she?
G: Yes, yes, Season 6.
C: And then there's Adam and his his fucking seraph wife, [both] Seraphina. [both laugh]
G: Supernatural will do anything.
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G: When was this episode?
C: This episode aired in March 2009, which means that we had Seasons 1 through 4-
G: House was new.
C: - and now we're in the middle of 5. What?
G: Wait, House was not new back then? When did House start airing? I thought it was like, 2008.
C: No. No, House started in 2004
G: That's crazy. It's older than Supernatural?
C: Yeah.
G: Oh, yeah! 'Cause the Amber season was-
C: Was that Season 3?
G: No, it was Season 4, which is Season 3 of Supernatural, and the Amber season is the, you know, the shorter one, because of the strike.
C: Oh, because of the strike. Yeah yeah yeah. And it ends with "Wilson's Heart." Yeah. And okay, since it is March 2009 when this episode airs, it also means that “Lucky 13” has happened, which you know, wonderful episode.
G: Bisexuality win.
C: Bisexuality win.
G: Is that the one? What is that episode.
C: Yeah, it's the one where this girl at a club hooks up with her just so that-
G: Oh, yeah.
C: - she, like, can have a medical attack in her bed so that Thirteen will treat her. [G laughs] And then at the end, it's like, "We're not even in love."
G: And Thirteen was like, "We can die. Together." And then apparently, she's not dying, so they're not even in love anymore.
C: Yeah, it's like all the charm goes away and it's like, joever. Yeah. Yeah. Wonderful episode.
G: Wonderful!
C: Will never be the lesbians with the liver transplant or whatever, but you know what? It's close.
G: That shit was crazy. That shit was crazy.
C: It was great. But yeah, okay. What do you think Dean's House M.D. opinions are, and do you think Sam has seen any, and if so, what are his opinions?
G: First of all, who is who is Dean's favorite fellow? We need to figure this out.
C: Oh, I didn't even think about that. I think for Sam, I think he wants it to be Cameron, but he's actually a Foreman girl.
G: You know what? I believe it. I mean, you know, the whole Foreman thing with the like, paper, I feel like Sam would be like, into that.
C: Which paper?
G: Like, Sam would understand where Foreman is coming from. Like, Foreman like, stole Cameron's paper and everything?
C: Her file?
G: No no no, Cameron's like, article.
C: Oh. Slay.
G: And that's the thing that they were fighting about when he got fucking parasited in the head and almost died.
C: Wait wait wait, is that the one where he-
G: And then he stabs her!
C: - infects her on purpose to force her take care of him?
G: He stabs her on purpose to infect her! Amazing!
C: It's great. I think Foreman's wonderful.
G: Amazing! No, because the thing is like, people, when they talk about House, talk about like, "House is so crazy, but like, Wilson's even more insane," and it's like, everybody in this fucking show is ball-to-the-wall.
C: Yeah. Chase killed somebody.
G: He killed a guy! Straightest thing he's ever done. Yeah. It's wonderful.
C: Okay. Who do you think Dean's favorite fellow is? I have absolutely no opinions on this. My Dean House M.D. opinions start and end with "He probably thinks it's funny when House sexually harasses people."
G: He genuinely fucking does. He like, sees that as inspirational content. [both laugh]
C: No, exactly. He's taking notes every time, like, House is just the worst to Cuddy. He just  goes, "Right on, House!" and like, slaps the TV on the shoulder, and then takes another note.
G: Dean is like, a terrible guy! [both laughing]
C: Yeah, he is! He's quite bad this episode!
G: Sometimes I forget, and then I remember! It's like, you know, wow!
C: Wow! I feel like people are gonna be upset because there's the whole like, "It's performative because of his sexuality!" blah blah. I don't think it is. I think he's just- yeah.
G: I do not buy it.
C: Yeah. Do you have an opinion on Dean's favorite fellow?
G: You know what?
C: What. Kushner? Kutner?
G: Okay, he he either really likes Chase, or he really hates Chase.
C: Okay, is his name Kutner or Kushner? I totally forgot, because Obama killed him.
G: It's Kutner. It's Kutner.
C: Kutner? Yeah, okay.
G: Is it Kutner or Kutner? I don't know. I think I just said the exact same words in the exact same pronunciation. [both laugh] And it literally is either of those two. Yeah. Obama killed that guy.
G: I think Cutner actually has, like, a very- I feel like the people that like, are closest to House intellectually, like, in terms of thought process and everything is portrayed as like, Chase and Kutner, so I feel like there's something to that for Dean.
C: Chase? Wait, Chase? Are you sure? Okay. I thought Foreman had the arc.
G: I mean, Chase is frequently- I mean, Foreman had the arc of like, "I'm like you, but I don't want to be like you" or whatever. And with Chase it's like, "I'm not exactly like House-"
C: "But I want to be."
G: "- but if I was like him, I wouldn't be opposed to it," you know. And, I mean, Chase did inherit the post. Right? The show ends, and he's Head of Diagnostics?
C: I don't rember.
G: Yeah, he is.
C: He didn't deserve that.
G: Yeah, he's Head of Diagnostics. I think he did.
C: I guess 'cause all the other fellows left.
G: 'Cause he figured out that one girl had fucking, I don't know, sun infection or whatever.
C: [laughs] I don't rember. Probably.
G: [laughs] They will literally have just randomass diseases in House M.D., and I support it.
C: Yeah.
G: Chase is frequently seen as the one with the Eureka moments and everything.
C: Chase does have daddy issues, which I guess Dean could latch onto.
G: No, yeah, exactly. And like, that's why I'm saying that like, Kutner and Chase trying to be like- not trying to be like House, but like, being like House in a way, and like, reacting differently to those situations, like, I feel like that would appeal to Dean as like, someone with daddy issues. 'Cause I do feel like a lot of what Chase's thing going on is like, projecting the daddy issues from his dad to House, and I feel like, you know, that would appeal to Dean.
C: Yeah.
G: What if his favorite fellow is Taub? [C laughs]
C: No one's favorite fellow is Taub. Not a single person.
G: [laughing] Has anyone ever said those words before? "My favorite fellow is Taub."
C: Yeah.
G: Yeah, guy who cheats on his wife. Could be appealing! Who knows? C: That's true.
G: I mean, Wilson also cheats on several wives.
C: Yeah, Wilson cheats on a lot of wives. [G laughing]
G: That's like, Wilson's favorite pastime.
C: Yeah, yeah.
G: Cheat on his wives, fuck his patients.
C: Yeah. Just one of them! [both laugh]
G: Just one. Just one patient.
C: Yeah, yeah. Her fucking clothes are in his closet and all that shit.
G: No his clothes are in her closet.
C: Are his clothes in her closet? That's crazy. Fucking stays the night.
G: Yeah. Until House figures it out. [laughing] I love House M.D.!
C: It's a really bad show and no one should watch it.
G: What a horrible show that is so good!
C: I don't know. What does Sam get out of House M.D.?
G: You know what? What's the name of that guy that's like, Kutner's bestie when they were in training? Or when they were like, doing the elimination rounds?
C: I have no clue.
G: And he was like, Mormon or something? And he had a kid, and he got kicked out 'cause he like, instead of getting the panties from Cuddy, [laughs] he like, struck a deal with Cuddy so Cuddy would give it to him. What's his name?
C: Okay. I don't know.
G: Cole.
C: Okay.
G: Wow. He's a 28-year-old divorcee, and that is so important to me. [C laughing] Like, his House Wiki page literally just says, "Name: Jeffrey Cole. Age: 28. Marital status: Divorced"! And that's important to me.
C: Could have been me, like, six years early if Danica and I just stuck it out for a little longer.
G: Exactly. Could be me if they legalized divorce in the Philippines.
C: Could be! Wait, what were you gonna say about Cole.
G: No, because, like, Cole has this like, arc, where, like, he's a bit goody two-shoes, and 'cause like, part of it is like, he's Mormon and like, House is always trying to trip him up faith-wise and everything. Like, he gets eliminated because House was making them do something, and he does it, but in a roundabout way, where, instead of what House wanted, which is for them to, you know, like, play with the system, he instead, like, worked with the system, so.
C: "Play with the system" is such an interesting way to say "break into boss's house-" like, "boss's boss's house and then steal her panties," [G laughing] but yeah.
G: But that's the way House worded it! It's the way he words it. It's crazy.
C: It is the way he worded it. Yeah. Well, what a show that is. Anyway, so after that line-
G: I mean, House M.D. has unmatched levels of misogyny-
C: And racism and everything-
G: - but at least there, women are people.
C: No, exactly.
G: Yeah, everything. But like, their characters are people, and I like that. I appreciate that.
C: Yeah. Yeah.
G: You cannot say the same about Supernatural.
C: Yeah, until later, hopefully, I think some women are people.
G: That's true. Rowena is in this show.
C: True.
G: Also, just to inform everyone, during the break, I saw a post on my timeline that's like, "Who do you ship Amara with?" and then, like, Billie was one of the choices, and I like, got Covid from that post. [both laugh] Like, I saw that, and I was like, "I think I hauve Covid!" [C laughs] That's crazy. That's crazy.
C: Pretty good.
G: And there's no content for it. Like, the AO3 tag is a episode tag. "Supernatural Form and Void," not even for Supernatural. That's crazy, right?
C: Yeah.
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C: What's up, gamers?
G: What's up? Who, gamers?
C: Who's turn? Is it my turn?
G: [British accent] It's your turn.
C: [British accent] Alright.
G: [laughing] That's such a fucking- why is it when I do accents, it's like, completely normal behavior, but like, when you do it, I'm like, "That's the funniest thing anyone has ever said in the podcast." [C laughs]
C: I don't know. I think you just do it more often.
G: Yeah. Do one right now. Do one right now.
C: No!
G: Do a Southern accent. Let's hear it.
C: No! So Alastair gets a- [G laughs] I'm not.
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C: What’s up, gamers?
G: How do I- how the hell do I meet people if I don't want to go on the apps?
C: Oh. I don't know. Extracurriculars.
G: Oh, yeah.
C: Bars? [G groans]
G: Horrible. I don't want to do that.
C: Yeah. Oh, well.
G: Well.
C: Pamela's dying. [G laughs]
G: Pamela’s not meeting people. [C laughs]
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