#Chakotay

[trillscienceofficer]

I've been crediting the way Chakotay dismisses B'Elanna's vision in “Barge of the Dead” mostly to the events of “The Fight” and how Chakotay was (understandably) afraid of the barrage of images from the depths of his mind, and how this fed into the fears he has about his grandfather's condition and his own predisposition to it. As a result, he is more diffident about helping other people assigning meaning to their visions, not trusting himself as he used to any longer. After rewatching “Mortal Coil” though I think Chakotay is, also understandably, very wary of validating anyone's mystical experiences (or lack thereof) surrounding death, because one such experience very nearly brought Neelix to suicide and Chakotay almost didn't realize it in time. The way B'Elanna's talks about her own vision can't not recall what Neelix went through, in Chakotay's mind; B'Elanna almost died, and now she feels like she needs to die again. Add to this the history B'Elanna has with self-harm and unnecessary risk-taking behavior from “Extreme Risk”, a history that Chakotay knows all too well, and his mind is made up. He cannot allow this to happen on his watch, especially not to B'Elanna, so he dismisses her recollection of the vision, he downplays it even if it comes across as him not accepting B'Elanna's culturally-informed perspective on her own experiences. In short, I think a mix of fear and guilt is what makes Chakotay unable to appreciate the difference between Neelix' nihilism and his loss of purpose and B'Elanna's longing for meaning and closure through ritual.

I don't think the Voyager writers thought this through as much as I am here, mind you. They likely just had Chakotay play the 'voice of reason' because they couldn't have Janeway doing it, or the parallelism between B'Elanna finding peace with (the memory of) her mother and B'Elanna's acceptance of Janeway's trust would have collapsed, making the episode less incisive. (We can also talk about how yet again the show paints Janeway as a mother figure, in my opinion the lowest-hanging fruit possible, but I digress.) That it sort of contradicts Chakotay's pre-established characterization and background was likely not a big consideration, which is unfortunate. However if we don't take the 'reset button' for granted, this behavior from Chakotay can be taken a sign of the way he changed throughout the show, even it's sort of negative character development. He's more afraid, and more rigid in his understanding of others than at the beginning of the journey, especially when it comes to B'Elanna. The years of survival on Voyager have taken a toll on him. I obviously still think he was wrong to dismiss B'Elanna and that the show needed to handle that conversation between them with a lot more care for both characters, but keeping “Mortal Coil” and “Extreme Risk” in mind definitely helps with lessening the sting of a scene that otherwise seems to come out of nowhere.

#ep: barge of the dead #chakotay #b'elanna torres #neelix #voy #suicide mention #self-harm mention #<- normal show that makes me write these tags in multiple posts #get closer i promise i'll be having just a regular amount of thoughts about this episode :)

[flappielxx123]

Janeway and Chakotay are having a little break in her ready room

I have a headcannon that if they would be together he would adore lovingly kissing her neck in between shifts

I couldn't choose between her being suprised or happy so now she is astonished at first but then she smiles

#neck kissses #commander chakotay #janeway x chakotay #kathryn janeway #chakotay #captain janeway #star trek #star trek voyager #star trek voyager fanart #trek art #jc fanart #j/c #star trek fanart

[homewrecking-lore]

#they are all unwell but they are unwell together :) #kathryn janeway #tuvok #chakotay #voyager #star trek voyager #star trek: voyager #my stuff #incorrect quote is from unbreakable kimmy schmidt btw

[fetch-those-damned-bolt-cutters]

You think you can hurt me? I write star trek fanfiction knowing absolutely nothing about the medical and scientific fields

#star trek #voyager #deep space nine #ds9 #the next generation #tng #picard #janeway #kathryn janeway #kira nerys #fanfiction #drabble #oneshot #gates mcfadden #beverly crusher #jean luc picard #patrick stewart #kate mulgrew #nana visitor #chakotay

[ohmyoverland]

Happy Threshold Day 2024!

#threshold day #star trek #meme #st voy #tom paris #kathryn janeway #captain janeway #chakotay #star trek voyager #threshold #alt text #image description

[baylardian-1]

"I've thought about having children, but I must say I never considered having them with you."

#happy threshold day friends :) #kathryn gets to re-experience realizing shes a mom THREE times lmao #GET MOMCORED IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #shes riddled with the Ive Been Unfaithful To Mark And Its Blatantly Apparent To Me With These Weird Lizard Babies I Made guilt #My Art #Threshold Day #Threshold #AU #Kathryn Janeway #Chakotay #Thomas Paris #Philippa Janeway #Edward Janeway #Amelia Janeway #Star Trek: Voyager #Human

[evviejo]

STAR TREK: VOYAGER - S2E1 The 37's

#trekedit #star trek #star trek voyager #tom paris #kathryn janeway #harry kim #chakotay #robert duncan mcneill #kate mulgrew #garrett wang #robert beltran #star trek* #voy* #voy 2x01 #my gifs

[drmenma]

The lower decks in the "Year of Hell" event.

#star trek lower decks #beckett mariner #lower decks #lwd #star trek lwd #star trek #brad boimler #d'vana tendi #samanthan rutherford #kathryn janeway #chakotay #st voyager #star trek voyager #tom paris #seven of nine #7 of 9 #Star trek lower decks: the badgey directive

[trekkiemage]

Your honor, I love them

#g draws #star trek voyager #kathryn janeway #chakotay #b’elanna torres #Tom Paris #Harry Kim #seven of nine #EMH #Kes #neelix #tuvok #seeing these all together makes me happy #I might redo Tom and Tuvok? but I have a different one in progress haha

[altumvidetur]

Janeway: You know what they say, go big or go home. Chakotay: I am begging you, Kathryn. For once in your life, go home. Please. Just this once. Janeway: Janeway: I'm going big.

#incorrect star trek quotes #incorrect voyager quotes #kathryn janeway #chakotay #j/c #star trek voyager #also known as the show where janeway goes increasingly more feral #while chakotay stands by in a mix of amazement and despair #source: unknown #incorrect quotes

[fortheloveoftrek]

Happy belated Threshold Day Voyager fans!

I had intended on posting this on the 29th and forgot. Oops. What kind of Trek fan am I? A forgetful one it seems. Threshold won an emmy for outstanding makeup but is an episode hated by many Trek fans. I loved this cartoon version of a part of the episode living on YouTube channel: Gazelle Automations called "Star Trek: Voyager: The Animated Series" go give it a watch.

#threshold #threshold day #star trek animated series #star trek voyager #st voyager #kathryn janeway #captain janeway #captain kathryn janeway #tom Paris #chakotay #tuvok #Gazelle Automations

[catgirljaneway]

Voy + Textposts 10

(1) + (2) + (3) + (4) + (5) + (6) + (7) + (8) + (9) + (11)

#trek thoughts #star trek #voyager #star trek text post #star trek memes #captain janeway #chakotay #tuvok #seven of nine #harry kim #b'elanna torres #the emh #tom paris #neelix #kes #star trek voyager #star trek janeway #voy #star trek voy #st voy #kathryn janeway #janeway #st voyager #st textposts

[spockvarietyhour]

#Star Trek #Polls #Tumblr Polls #TNG #DS9 #VOY #ENT #Enterprise #Star Trek Voyager #Uhura #Scotty #Worf #Deanna Troi #Julian Bashir #Ezri Dax #Seven of Nine #Chakotay #T'Pol #Charles Tucker #Trip Tucker

[avoicefromthestars]

this framing is so funny... excluded from the dyke huddle :(

#star trek: voyager #seven of nine #kathryn janeway #b'elanna torres #chakotay

[https-chaos]

Jim and Spock are like. We were written in the 60s so we’re in love and repressed and looking at each other with the most painful, heart wrenching longing in the galaxy. We will find each other in every universe and every timeline. We are connected by a red string. You know that I know that you know. This is the best tragic love story you will ever see.

Geordi and Data are like. The symbolism inherent to the blind engineer and his mechanical best friend who glows for him and only him. Tearing ourselves apart because we both think the other deserves better. Our relationship is intimate by nature but I won’t inflict myself on you. You know that I know that you know. This is the best tragic love story you will ever see.

Julian and Garak are like. We’re supposed to be enemies and I’m supposed to be afraid of you. You’re ashamed of your past and I’m ashamed of mine. We’re arguing about nothing but it’s only because I’m in love with you. You know that I know that you know. This is the best tragic love story you will ever see.

Janeway and Chakotay are like. We’re stranded very far from home and we’re in love but we won’t do anything about it because it would be improper. We have a ship to run and a crew to take care of and our personal needs come last. I’ll keep you at arms length and you’ll never complain. You know that I know that you know. This is the best tragic love story you will ever see.

I love Star Trek for its ability to write these deeply painful, unresolved love stories. I love the actors for making it emotional. I love the writers for being transparent about the purpose of those raw moments.

You may find that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting. It is not logical, but is often true.

#Star Trek #Jim kirk #Spock #spirk #Geordi La forge #data Soong #Daforge #Julian bashir #Elim garak #garashir #Kathryn janeway #chakotay #j/c

[reginaldqueribundus]

#i can't believe i found such a perfect photo for this #star trek #star trek voyager #kathryn janeway #tuvok #chakotay #a post by me™ #gaslight gatekeep girlboss #100 #sam rambles about star trek again