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autogyne-redacted · 4 months
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Ok, so let's talk about "misandry."
(Heads up that I use terrible US foreign policy as an example of underlying gender ideology, Death to America of course)
1) if we're working within a social justice, privilege-oppression type framework, there is no systemic oppression of men as men, or trans men as trans men (beyond transphobia). Within these privilege oppression frameworks treating misandry or transandrophobia as a real thing is gonna have disastrous consequences.
2) But we need to be abandoning the identity politics social justice orthodoxy as fast as we can. Occupying a position of privilege within the discourse is dehumanizing and hellish, it has a terrible track record with transmisogyny (not a coincidence), and trying to map gendered power just by looking at identity groups means you miss a ton of what's happening within the groups, and in less straight forward ways.
3) a huge part of the gender binary is between camab ppl as (instrumental) subjects and cafab ppl as (responsive, feeling) objects. And this is fucked all around.
To pick one of the more egregious examples, US military directives make heavy use of the category of "military aged males." People outside this category are (theoretically) assumed to be non combatants while "military aged males" in ~warzones~ are basically valid targets by default. https://tinyurl.com/4skt53tx
This category also faces extra exclusion from refugee and asylum status: https://tinyurl.com/4txsmepy
We could explain this as a symptom of misogyny. That women should also be recognized as being capable of enacting violence and treated equally. This is the most straight forward application of orthodox gender theory and likely the worst.
Or we could say that there's something about the intersection of being Arab/Muslim/young/read as male that leads to a unique oppression.
But it's not like it's just this intersection. If we look at prison populations, or who gets hit by police violence, or weaponized accusations of Sexual Assault the logic is actually fairly consistent here, if a little messy to talk about.
Ppl seen as men are seen as capable of wielding power and this leads to benefits if they're seen as basically good. If they're seen as crazy, dangerous, evil, hostile, or at risk of being any of these, being seen as capable of violence makes shit way worse. Lots of intersections push you further towards being viewed as a threat.
(A pretty good bite sized model of transmisogyny is that it misgenders us as men + we get negative respect since we rejected masculinity + it frames us as crazy/dangerous).
Ppl seen as women are going to be seen as less competent, in need of guidance, control and protection by default. But it comes with certain (conditional) protections. Violence against women certainly happens, but the fact that it's a special protected category says a lot. (There's a lot to say about how much these protections are worth, who they really apply to and when they disappear and what happens then, but it's very clear that they exist and that they mean something).
4) so am I arguing for the existence of misandry? Absolutely not*. Gender is just a fucked up system of division and control all around. Privilege frameworks suggest that women are going to experience the same shit as men they share identities with + misogyny + possible extra intersectional oppression. And while this approach is sometimes helpful, I think a better default framework is that gender is just a way to create more social categories for a more complicated system of control with common threads like the subject-object binary that can play to different ways in different contexts.
The whole thing needs to be dismantled and we need to see ppl across gender categories as whole human beings with a meaningful interiority, the capacity for violence, etc. And if we recognize that gender is a complicated system of control, it follows naturally that our gender discourse shouldn't all ask men to sit down / shut up / listen.
5) the issue with transandrophobia BS is that it really wants to exceptionalize the trans masc experience. "It's fucked up that I'm being seen as suspect and capable of violence like terrible cis men, I'm obviously one of the good ones." And as they fight for the best of both worlds ("I should be respected like a man but still seen as incapable of chauvinism") it pushed naturally for trans fems to get the worst of both worlds.
6) returning to feminist "man-hating" there's a lot i oppose for being essentialist or doubling down on subject-object binary. Beyond that, a lot of it is just mean. And like, ppl can be jaded and mean sometimes. But a lot of social justice feminist dogma was ppl developing a bristly defensiveness from constant harassment and trolling. Ppl defending this as an understandable response, and then that shifting into codifying and valorizing it. And I just think it's a miserable way to live and it's miserable to be on the receiving end of it.
I think some grace and understanding for ppl being jaded and bristly is rly helpful but I'm done with valorizing it.
7) all of this said, basic feminist takes about men having lots of pressure and motivations to be chauvinist still apply. And they certainly apply to trans men. But there's a difference between having social expectations that you be a chauvinist and bowing to that pressure. And lots of men are chill and nice! Yes even cishet men!
It's easy to want to draw a hard line where you're "one of the good ones" and are categorically separated from the possibility of being sexist (ontologically incapable of violence, even?) and that goes really poorly.
(most of my beef with transandrophobia is that it's doing this + exceptionalizing trans masc experience in a way that fucks over trans fems).
But I'm not gonna ask ppl to constantly self flagellate or be hyper vigilant to make sure they don't slip up. Sin frameworks are miserable and it's not like being interpersonally shitty in a way that lines up with oppressive systems actually has consequences that much worse than just being an asshole.
So much of the more aggressive side of social justice just feels like ways to treat enemies, not your friends or ppl you want to be in community with.
I'm glad we've been moving on from it.
*editing a footnote since this has already come up a couples times / this post seems to be leaving my immediate circles: by saying misandry isn't real I mean: there isn't a systemic oppression of men as men that parallels misogyny. Gendered oppression isn't a "both sides" situation. When "egalitarian" or mra types brought "misandry" into the discourse this is what they were pushing for.
While I object to the idea that all men evenly oppress all women, patriarchy absolutely has men at the top. It's a complex and multi-directional system of power but there is an overall gendered slant to it. My framework here is still a feminist framework.
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faerietempest · 9 months
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Black History Challenge (1900s) | Part 23 | Generations Moving Forward
In this part, we say goodbye to the first generation, and look to the future.
Watch: https://youtu.be/GNtjs4agNYY
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roughridingrednecks · 11 months
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Now I am lost…
Just got word from a credible leaker that Coates script can easily star a white Superman(specifically Henry cavil) and that it is no longer a given that it is a period piece?
Where the hell did those original black Clark in a period piece rumors come from?
Talking about the KC Walsh tweet? I'm calling bullshit on that for three reasons:
There's no chance that Coates was hired for anything other than a black Superman project. Zero. The idea that his script would be something you could just swap out a black Superman with a white one is complete bull. Abrams was even stated to only be the producer and not the director because it "wouldn't be appropriate" for him to direct this film, why would it be inappropriate for him to direct a white Superman film?
From the very start they said it was a reboot, and the latest info from the Flash movie says there is no Superman in the DCEU as the film currently ends. It's repeatedly been said that WB doesn't have enough faith in Cavill to greenlight another movie with him, hence why he hasn't come back. Yet they apparently are in fact entertaining the idea of bringing him back for a project with a novice script writer despite rejecting Cavill and MacQuarrie's pitch? Only reason they'd take Coates pitch is if it's a reboot with the attention getter of Superman being racebent.
Walsh didn't leak the news about Discovery wanting to focus on Superman before hand, he doesn't know everything. He didn't know the Snyder Cut was coming, and he also didn't know that Affleck was leaving the door open to return for Crisis.
This reeks of Walsh just trying to cover his ass in case they bring Cavill back after all, despite Walsh repeatedly saying Cavill is done for good. In all fairness to him it sure looked like Cavill was done for good, but maybe the new regime feels differently. But if Cavill returns I expect them to pass on the Coates project and maybe pass on the Val-Zod show as well. More likely they'd have Jon be Cavill's successor and focus on him instead when the time comes for Cavill to pass on the cape. We'll probably get news soon so just a matter of waiting.
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horreurscopes · 2 months
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from that "whats the most expensive item of clothing you own" poll i reblogged.... u are not serious people dot gif
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catmask · 6 months
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does anyone have like an anti aesthetic. like something you look at and can recognize as a complete fashion/interior design/artistic movement and understand it but it makes you shudder seeing it. i am not talking like “its morally bad” “its poorly structured” like just sheerly devoid of joy for you actually invites a repulse response.
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wally-b-feed · 15 days
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Grey Haringey Coates, 2024
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pangur-and-grim · 10 days
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Belphegor might be going through a bald phase when I pick him up in May, so............ I have to buy cat clothing!
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craving pathetic wet old women characters. where is the feminism
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time-woods · 8 months
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they are on a picnic date cloud watching
(well one of them is)
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nyc-looks · 11 days
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Tiwana, 48
“I like to create my own style. I love to be different and make people smile when they look at me. It makes my heart happy because I don’t know what anyone is going through. I love stuffies and butterflies. Now I’m am wearing a Nike jacket and teddy bear crocs and teddy bear purse made by me. I love to create anything I put my mind to. Hairstyle is done by me as well.”
Mar 12, 2024 ∙ Hell’s Kitchen
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fuckyeahgoodomens · 11 days
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Jon Hamm: I've worn everything on this show, from nothing to a rug wrapped around me to a beautiful bespoke suit.
Kate Carin (Costume Designer): When we see him at the bookshop for the ball, we thought it would be hilarious that Aziraphale had asked him to get really dressed up for it. So we did a bit of a homage to Liberace. So he's got a powder blue dinner suit that's encrusted with rhinestones. And then Douglas asked if we could do some sort of coat to go on top of it for one of the scenes when he leaves. So, of course, we didn't do just a coat. We did a huge ostrich feather coat, which we made from scratch.The girls did all the ombre on the feathers so it matches the dinner suit, gets lighter and lighter blue as it comes to the top, and then he's kind of surrounded by this halo of white feathers.
Sarah-Kate Fenelon (Producer): There is a shot when he emerges from the bookshop to meet all of the demons and say, like, I am who you're looking for, where he looks a little bit like an angel. And the silhouette of him kind of emerging in the light is very epic and is then just completely undercut by sort of, move out of the way. (video)
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faerietempest · 10 months
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Fall, 1905--
James Coates married Noel Knight at the First Baptist Church of Willow Creek. Although the celebration was rather quickly put together, there was no shortage of love felt on the day. It was clear to anyone paying attention that James and Noel adored each other, and their joy spread infectiously throughout the congregation.
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canisalbus · 7 months
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✦ Coffee Shop AU ✦
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hattersarts · 3 months
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rewatch time
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tennant · 3 months
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#leather jacket for... science.
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