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echo-bleu · 19 days
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Dark Mage Raistlin Majere.
Just some outfit research, looking for cool ways to style mage robes. With a corset for additional coolness and back support because he needs it.
I love a well-written disabled/chronically ill character.
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Dragonlance Chronicles (Anotated Ver) Cover Art by Todd Lockwood
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godzilla-reads · 1 month
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Let’s go!!!
☑️ Finished Dragons of Autumn Twilight
✅ Starting Dragons of Winter Night
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curiouselleth · 3 months
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Raistlin is Eru? Go on...
Hi @backgroundelf!
Thanks for asking, I'm thrilled to share it with someone new! A forewarning, however; this got a bit long, I had a lot of fun writing it all out lol 😂😅
So, Raistlin is Eru is a crack theory I've been rotating on and off for a little while.
I think I got the idea during a conversation about Eru and the Valar, specifically how Eru seemed to be so hands off after the Valar entered Arda, and how the only actions he seemed to take were preventing the Valar from doing things that would endanger the world, namely during the Ainulindalë, preventing too much discord in the music and going to war with Numenor.
And it just kinda popped into my head. Maybe it was the specific phrasing of discord in the music that reminded me of some of Lord of Nothing from the Last Trial:
(this is from the 2021 english dub on youtube)
"It's not too late yet, to play a new song, clear the discord and correct what went wrong!"
Then a few lines later:
"It's not too late yet, to fix the problem-- change the dissonant song that life has become, not too late! For a new world, one of harmony suppressing the old!"
And I just started thinking about it, and it kinda made sense? Still in a crack theory way but oh my gosh it made sense. It would explain Eru's lack of interference, he saw the damage that gods outside a world, not living in it could cause. I haven't finished the Dragonlance Legends trilogy yet, but from the Chronicles with Paladine living in the world not using his full powers and being part of it (a bit like Gandalf in hindsight), that seemed to work a lot better! So only those who were a part of it - the valar - had the power to more actively shape it.
But then, things that threaten the very world's existence like the discord in the music or the valar going to war with Numenor? He reacts. And in the case of Numenor - violently.
And as I was just reading a Dragonlance timeline, the similarities between Dragonlance and the Silmarillion are prominent. I won't go into detail, there's far too much and I've barely skimmed it.
He saw the catastrophic damage to Beleriand and it's peoples during the war of wrath. A continent rented and destroyed. He will not see his world hurt again. So when Numenor invades, he fears what the Valar would do when attacked, because the damage in Beleriand when they weren't attacked was so bad, what happens when they feel they need to defend themselves? So he drowns Numenor, he destroys the Numenorians in Valinor, he bends the world and removes Valinor, removes the valar, from it. They could have good intentions, the best intentions, but he will protect his world. He will not see his world destroyed again.
But it's not just that. The Numenorians wished to become immortal. Wished to challenge the valar, the gods to get it. How long until they wish for more than immortality, how long until they wish for the powers of the Valar, how long until they wish to become gods? Almost exactly. Like. Him.
So he utterly destroys them so none but the faithful escape, so none will survive to continue pursing this goal, just like him. Just like how he wished he would've been stopped. He saves his world. But it is irreversibly changed.
After a time, the Valar play less and less of a roll in the world, as the world grows away from him. He has too seen what happens when gods are worshipped for too long. More war, more death, more destruction. Maybe it wouldn't happen the same way in this new world. But he will not risk it.
Even though he planned an end of his world, he planned it to be renewed. Without hurt.
You can see him in the gift of men too. He has known long ages in the abyss. Completely alone, nothing, desolate, but the worst, knowing that it was never going to end. Never. Shackled to this eternity. So he gives them the gift to leave, that he wished for more times over than he could count.
But he puts eternity on the elves. I haven't fully thought this part out, perhaps after Arda is made anew, Arda unmarred, he has planned a end for himself. Not necessarily suicide, but an end. Stepping away, going where his spirit will. This life ending and becoming something new. And that is why he leaves eternity on the elves. So, as a race, they may step in to fill the gap he left. Not as gods, not that powerful. But all of them together sharing the power. It becoming their world. And perhaps after a somewhat similar cycle of being in that role for some time, they get to be in control of their fate. And they get to change it as Raistlin changed his fate of eternity as a god.
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But how did this happen? How did Raistlin make a new world when it was too late? *insert entirety of Lord of Nothing here*
The flame imperishable. It's so mysterious in the Silmarillion. We know so little.
So how did it come to be?
Raistlin spent many ages in the abyss. Some more clear than the others, some with not a thread of sanity. It would come and go. But over time, he grows a little. As a person.
His realization of how deeply wrong his actions were tormented him endlessly. But it was what saved him. He dwelt on it, reflected and grew. He gained compassion and empathy. The grief for what he did, the pain he caused others in trying to avoid it himself gnawed at him. Consuming him. But he learned, and became better.
The multiverse is semi-canonical in Dragonlace. When the world had died, other gods saw. How sad, a few thought. How foolish, many more thought. Then they moved on.
Uncounted ages later, one looks back. And sees with a shock that Raistlin has changed so much. And decides to give him a second chance. If he hasn't changed enough he will just fail, nothing more coming from it. "One without a heart cannot create life," (paraphrasing Takhisis.)
The god gives Raistlin the barest of sparks. Raistlin doesn't notice for a long time, he had long ago retreated to one of the corners of the abyss. If such a thing exists in a endless void.
But, he finds it. He searches for the one who left it but nothing. He studies it, cautious. Is he imagining it? It wouldn't be the first time he was hallucinating. But no, it's real. There is no outside influence on it. It's just there. A chance.
For a long time, he does nothing. He is so afraid, what if he fails again, what if he actually hasn't grown? (I'd like to think he also gained at least a little self awareness over time lol)
Eventually, he decides. He goes for it. He nurtures the tiny spark, he nurtures it and cares for it and protects it and it grows, and grows, and grows. It grows into the Flame Imperishable.
And he finally is brave enough to do it, to create life. And he creates the Valar. The Maiar. They create the world. He fears that he is too flawed to do it alone.
Ainulindalë happens. The world is made, he is secretly delighted when the dwarves are made, but he will not change The Plan (TM) this early, too risky, they'll have to wait their turn. The elves and men come, the Two Trees come and go, the First age, the Second, time goes on and time. The stories we love happen and are written and forgotten as time ticks ever forward. As Raistlin's world lives.
He knows it will never be enough to make up for his mistakes. There is no atoning for killing his first world. But he does everything he can to make this one good, and life flourishes.
There's just so many parallels and Eru's actions can be explained and make sense in a way, Raistlin's choices, his history and experiences drive him to do differently, to act out to prevent others from making the same choices, and to make a different ending. He sees the parallels, the similarities too but makes sure that there will be a different ending.
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I'll definitely write this eventually, but my silm cyoa fic Be He Foe or Friend is really getting away from me and getting bigger so it might be a while. I just know if I have more than one big writing project going at once I won't finish anything lol. I don't know, maybe I'll start figuring out a plot or something soon lol.
I really haven't read many of the Dragonlance books yet, I'm mostly just using knowledge from the musical, chronicles, and the first and second books of the legends trilogy, so I don't know if all of it is really accurate to the books. But it's still fun lol
Sorry this got SO long, I was curious so I stuck this whole thing in a doc (minus the tags lol) and its 1590 words 🤣
Thank you so so much for the ask, 💖💖💖 I really enjoyed talking about this and if you have questions or want to talk about it more I'd LOVE to lol.
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When I was in middle school I remember reading a fantasy book that I was super invested in, but for years I couldn’t remember what the book was called. I FINALLY figured it out after googling a bunch of iterations of what the cover looked like, and it turned out it was the original Dragonlance trilogy! I re-read them last year and they unlocked some little nostalgia part of my brain, I really wanted to hash out my renditions of some of the main cast.
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arceneades · 7 months
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Burrrffoooooot!
I'm on this discord server with like 20 other people who all play DnD with the same GM. Dude runs at least 3 campaigns at all times, he's a beast of a GM, but that isn't the point.
Point is, it's also a fun little community of DnD nerds but we do have a couple of people who occasionally comment that they hate Kender and Tasselhoff Burrfoot in particular.
If you don't know what a kender is, and you don't know Tas, I have no idea why you would be reading this but I will fill you in. If you do, feel free to skip the next paragraph.
Kender are a humanoid race in the "Dragonlance" fantasy novels. They are shorter than humans (or elves or dwarves) but typically slightly built. They are a lot like hobbits, except that kender don't feel fear and have no sense of property rights. They just steal stuff, not because they're greedy, but almost as a compulsion. They don't think about it, they just absentmindedly pick pockets or shoplift or whatever. Tasslefhoff Burrfoot is a character in the Dragonlance books. He's a kender, so he tends to "find" a lot of items that other people "lost."
So the typical complaint is that Tasslehoff is a joke character, that kender are an annoying race, and that the whole thing should have been dropped kicked out of the franchise and thrown into the sun. Because people see the "you must have dropped that" part of Tas and they don't see anything else.
This is an extraordinarily shallow reading of the character, of course. I would argue that in the original series, no character goes through as many changes as Tasslehoff Burrfoot. Here's an example quote of how his worldview changes:
Something had changed inside Tas. He would never again be like other kender. Through grief, he had come to know fear; fear not for himself but for others. He decided right now that he would rather die himself than lose anyone else he loved.
Okay. You see that, right? This character changes so much that a part of him will be forever separated from his home, from the culture he grew up it. These are young adult books, coming of age stories. Tas is the one who comes of age.
So if people think the character is shallow or one-dimensional, it's because they just can't see past that one dimension. They are stuck seeing kender the way that most people in the world of the books see kender: as lazy, thieving pests.
Some strong feelings towards fantasy races is pretty common. For example, I'm pretty annoyed by JRR Tolkien's elves. They're just so... perfect. They live forever, they're smarter than everyone else, better looking than everyone else, and they know it. They think they are better than other people because they are better than other people. Gross.
But, you know, give me a specific elf and I'll judge that elf on the basis of their behavior, not on the shape of their ears. Legolas is a great character and I would happily buy the man a beer at The Prancing Pony.
We have a word in the real world for people who can't see people as themselves, but can only see them as stereotypes based on their origin.
When it comes to kender, and especially to Tasslehoff Burrfoot. This really, really bother me. Much more than it should. I mean, what do I care if other people like or don't like a character I like or don't like? I'm not the character.
Except I sort of am, in the case of Tas. Because to me, his kleptomania is a standin for my neurodiversity. His trouble was my trouble.
Because remember, Tas doesn't steal because he's greedy. Kender don't have much of a property sense. They really only own what they're wearing and their sling-staffs. Kender don't lock their doors, they consider it impolite to be protective about mere things. He doesn't consciously lift things, he just does it. Most of the time, he doesn't know what he took or who he took it from. He never tries to keep anything that someone asks for.
Tasselhoff tries. He tries to follow these rules but he can't internalize them, they never become second nature. So if he isn't constantly vigilant over his behavior, he'll act normally (for a kender) and that will cause trouble and then someone will yell at him.
If you're neurodivergent, this probably sounds a little familiar.
What's even harder is that sometimes his friends want him to pick a lock or a pocket and while he's happy to do so, it's pretty clear that there are times when it is okay to be a kender, and times when it is not okay to be a kender... and he has trouble knowing what the difference is.
Again, if you're neurodivergent, this probably sounds a little familiar.
And I guess that's the thing that really bothers me about all the hate toward kender in general and Tasslehoff in particular. It feels personal. They're saying it isn't okay to be a kender, but I feel like they're saying it isn't okay to be neurodivergent. They say it isn't okay to be Tas, and I feel like they're saying it isn't okay to be me.
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30 gifts for 30 days of November
Day 14!
Here is the fourteenth of thirty Better Than a Poke in the Eye recommended gifts for the book lover in your life even if that book lover is YOU!
Today's recommendation is Dragonlance Chronicles by Margaret Weis and Tracey Hickman.
Dragonlance Chronicles is an omnibus collection of three novels Dragons of Autumn Twilight, Dragons of Winter Night and Dragons of Spring Dawning.   The novels follow a band of adventurers recently reformed after a five year gap. They witness a mysterious woman use a blue staff to heal a villager.  They investigate and soon find themselves in great danger.
For Jason this was the first time he remembers being genuinely upset at the death of a major character in a novel.  He remembers revisiting the previous pages looking to see if he missed something important.  Then realising that no, this was the end of the journey for that character.  He then mourned with the remaining characters in the story the loss of their companion.
This might not be the high fantasy of Tolkien but it is a story about companionship, comradery, adventure, betrayal and death. But with added magic and dragons thrown in for good measure.
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charlisbookbox · 2 years
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First Lines Fridays - August 19, 2022
This week's First Lines Fridays is a book I've recently finished... find out what book it is at Charli's Book Box...
First Lines Fridays is a weekly feature for book lovers hosted by Wandering Words. What if instead of judging a book by its cover, its author or its prestige, we judged it by its opening lines? Pick a book off your shelf (it could be your current read or on your TBR) and open to the first pageCopy the first few lines, but don’t give anything else about the book away just yet – you need to hook…
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bardnuts · 2 months
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gonna be real one of my dreams is to write licensed fantasy novels
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godzilla-reads · 3 months
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My apologies to all my books because I am a mood reader and the mood right now is high fantasy, D&D, and classics.
I just started the first Dragonlance novel- Dragons of Autumn Twilight- and seeing if I can stick with it.
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best-childhood-book · 1 month
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fantasy books:
Deltora Quest (etc)
The Land of Elyon
Dragonlance: The New Adventures
The Edge Chronicles
The Lost Conspiracy and A Face Like Glass by Frances Hardinge
Added them all!
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skull-bearer · 1 year
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Chapters: 14/16 Fandom: Dragonlance - Margaret Weis & Tracy Hickman Rating: Mature Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence Relationships: Dalamar the Dark/Raistlin Majere, Raistlin/Others, Raistlin/Scrounger, Raistlin/Other Male Character Characters: Raistlin Majere, Caramon Majere, Horkin (Dragonlance), Scrounger (Dragonlance), Ivor of Langtree (Dragonlance), Dalamar the Dark, Original Male Character(s), Original Female Character(s), Fistandantilus (Dragonlance), Kitiara uth Matar, Dunbar Mastersmate, Laurana Kanan, Gunthar Ust Wistan Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Fistandantilus Fuck Off, Burns, Disfigurement, Disability, Dragonarmies, War of the Lance, Guerilla Warfare, Partisans, Mad Baron's Army, Dragons, Bad Decisions, Brothers, bad relationships, Raistlin's Test, No Beta We Die Like Par-Salian Should Have, Pre-Relationship, Undead, Way too many undead, Slavery, Freedom Fighters Summary:
“Well?” Fistandantilus’ clawed handed spasmed ravenously, groping for the bloodstone pendant around his neck. “Your choice?”   “I might go into that nothingness,’ Raistlin spat, “But then so will you. Go to the Abyss, I will have nothing to do with you.”
Chapter 14: The Witch Lord Battle is joined. It's time.
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raeathnos · 2 years
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