#ESPECIALLY IF THEYRE PROBLEMATIC

[athamad]

People when they realize almost every character (mortals AND gods) in Greek mythology is a morally gray character except for a few exceptions

#greek mythology #ancient greek mythology #greek myths #greek myth #why is this so hard to understand for some of y'all to understand? #you have to take into the the account that it was ANCIENT GREECE #so it was very VERY different #I saw a video like anvient greek men would make terribly boyfriend 🤢🤮 #DUDE OF COURSE THEY WOULD COMPARED TO OUR MODERN WORLD #AND GODS (oh my god this is where it gets bad) #Theyre GODS guys #Mortal morality isnt equal to their Moralitly #especially modern world morality #Like CMON #Hades is the best god because he was not problematic!!! #he kidnapped his wife #yeah but it was normal!!! #okay then do you think Zeus is justifiable when he kidnapped Europa? #no!!! #WHY NOT #Becuase Zeus raped her!!!!! #didnt Hades also rape Persephone? #NOOOO They love each other 😘😘😘 #🤦 #just stop #its embarrassing #im embarrassed #youre embarrassing #SO STOP IT #tw rape

[lord-squiggletits]

The Slope by @megatron-fucks provides a great scene where Pharma gets to blow up on Ratchet about how he lost everything good in his life and faced a fate worse than death so Ratchet has no right to judge him.

But you know what else I really want to see and might write myself?

I want a post-Delphi scene where Pharma gets to verbally rip Ratchet apart about how he disowned Pharma and is acting as if the 'new Pharma' is a completely different person, but in reality Ratchet is just desperate to convince himself that Pharma was always a bad apple and the "best friend" Ratchet knew was either a lie or a person who's "died." Basically Pharma getting to lambast Ratchet about how 'the person he used to be' isn't some separate entity, that the old Pharma LITERALLY IS HIM and it's Ratchet who's a piece of shit for being unable to reconcile that Pharma could be his former best friend and also the monster he ended up becoming.

Mostly in regards to the aspect of canon where despite being former best friends, Ratchet made basically zero efforts to have any sympathy for Pharma or extend help/mercy to him and mostly used their former friendship to prey on Pharma's insecurities to manipulate him into doing what he wanted.

Of course it's a narration by Pharma so it might not be 100% correct or unbiased, but like. I just desperately crave some sort of resolution between Ratchet and Pharma. Or if not a resolution, at least some catharsis where Pharma gets to unload and Ratchet acknowledges he was a bastard.

#squiggposting #pharma apologism #i know that at the time they thought pharma died #but it literally is SO disturbing that ratchet and first aid talk about pharma like #'he was a good doctor for most of his life' 'you can carry the best part of him with you' #it's fucked up bc like. good doctor pharma and bad autobot pharma arent two people in one body #pharma is pharma it's literally the same good doctor who turned into the bad autobot #it lowkey reads as if theyre trying to compartmentalize pharma like. oh there was Good Pharma and Bad Pharma #but the reality is the good and bad are a whole person-- Pharma #it was a gradual slope to madness and evil caused SPECIFICALLY BY PHARMA WANTING TO PROTECT OTHERS #it's kinda fucked up that no one ever acknowledges that #even in the fandom level there's often a silent implication that pharma was always a little evil/suspicious #so delphi just revealed his true colors or something. like no he went insane under threat of the DJD #idk i'm apologisting for my boy #but real talk i do think pharma and the way ratchet/others treated him could make a good story abt like #the way ppl want others to fit neatly into good/evil roles ESPECIALLY IF THEY USED TO ASSOCIATE WITH THEM #and how ppl will attempt to distance themselves from 'problematic' exes by just claiming #'oh i always knew there was something evil about them' even when that wasnt the case #idk lol. i mean ppl acknowledge pharma used to be a good doctor but just bc they say it #doesnt mean they actually gave him a chance or didnt treat him as just an autobot who went bad #i know im being contradictory. i'm apologisting i didnt ask for feedback sjfksjfjsjd

[s1llycilantro]

Normalize blocking ppl for the most mundane reasons. Just saw someone say that drv3 is a horrible unplayable game and immediately my finger just flew to the block button. I don't need that negativity in my life and not from an sdr2 ELITIST. I LOVE ALL OF THEM 🙁 THEY HAVE SO MANY CUTSIE PATOOTSIES HOW AM I MEANT TO CHOOSE.

#sdr2 is good REALLY good like i love the games #but to quote peter griffin it insists upon itself #more like the fans insist upon it #IDGAF ABT UR OPINIONS ESPECIALLY WHEN THEYRE WRONG BLEHHHH AOI ASAHINA BETTERRRRR #danganronpa #danganronpa trigger happy havoc #super danganronpa two #ugh #i wanna cradle all the characters #im so sorry the writers did half of u terribly #this doesnt mean i hate sdr2 btw fuyuhiko and sonia r 2 of my favorite characters ever #god #theyre so iconic #AND AKANE?? #I LOVE HER 🙁🙁 #sorry i have so many emotions for the dr series i got attached in elementary school and havent let go #i know it's problematic but it's MY comfort material

[devotedlystrangewizard]

black sails is still so insane like yeah! here you go! fun pirate show! heres the utter torment that is being queer in this time period. heres several episodes setting up an m - f - m love triangle before they reveal it was far FAR more complicated than that. here are lesbians. everyone fucking sucks. have fun

#lesbians taken loosely because i do genuinely adore that they keep all of it vague #this was my heartstopper guys. does that explain a lot about me. yes #but you need to understand the PROFOUND effect that scene had on me. like just. all of it #the way the entire season sets up a 'ohohoho hes having an affair with his best friend's wife' ONLY TO TURN ALL OF THAT ON ITS HEAD #AND NOT ONLY THAT. THE ENDING? #DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE AMOUNT OF QUEER REP I HAD SEEN IN FICTION WHEN I WAS 14. ESPECIALLY ON TV #THIS WAS PRE HEARTSTOPPER. PRE WWDITS. PRE TMA AND WTNV. I LOST MY MIND #black sails means SO much to me i cant put into words the effect it had on me as a kid. but also if this show released now #i would bet actual money that the young queers of now would cancel it for problematic queer people <3 #all the sex & violence... flint being. flint. #this entire show is what im talking about when i say i want less sanitized queer rep. this. iwtv. hannibal. like theyre all fucked up #but they contain incredibly flawed people. ESPECIALLY black sails has character depth #like these people do awful things and they mess up and their love sometimes isnt PURE and theyre PIRATES. THEYRE PIRATES #like i wouldnt exactly recommend it 'if you liked ofmd' but if you liked ofmd and hannibal/iwtv. and you havent seen this. #i cant recommend it to people who just like ofmd the genre is too different. like yeah its a queer pirate show but its also a period drama. #i am so incoherent rn i love this show

[wyrdoh]

it's so bizarre to me that people publish hate comments on ao3

#like someone just responded to a comment i left on a fic from 3 years ago telling me to shut up and that im disgusting #like.... ???? and i look at the other conments and theyre just responding to all positivity like that #and i think its especially funny because in my comment i was like. i dont even like this ship bit i like your writing and i look forward #to reading #like huh?? #do u have nothing better to do with your time? #like its not a problematic ship either? well unless ur not a baby. its just an enemies/lovers type thing #like id get it if it was like a sowmthing abhorrent but i aint reading that shit. but this fic is actually so harmless #if anyones wondering is a bkdk fic angel/demon au. its really cheesy and stupid #but i remember i enjoyed it when i read it #even tho again. i quite literally do not care about the characters or source material #pls dont come at me

[isa-ghost]

ok no i need to get smth outta my system rq, dont rb this or i’ll block you

#people who might relate can come to my askbox if they want #but anyway....... #me watching some fuckos who i KNOW were supporting tea blogs and spreading bullshit with them about Sean back a few years ago-- #--crawl back into the community bc IRIS dropped #me staring at how much fucking pain and stress and rage they caused me and all my friends and now theyre all back and sunshine like they-- #never shit on Sean in their lives or nitpicked anything about his behavior or friendships #me watching them have the gall to follow me and interact with my friends and a bunch of popular jse blogs like they never did anything-- #--to hurt this community in their lives. me watching them flaunt how long theyve ''enjoyed'' Sean's content as if they werent being absolute #pieces of shit to him and spreading bullshit in the MAIN TAGS and calling him problematic for every breath he took back in 2019 #it might be water under the bridge to some of the community but you are NOT welcome back to me. and certainly not on my fucking blog #the absolute HELL that was the tea blog era permanently scarred me and a lot of people i know #fuck you guys for having the audacity to slither back to this community just because hes finally able to work on a project you were-- #RELENTLESSLY bitching about him ''abandoning'' and shitting on him for not doing it on your terms. fuck you ESPECIALLY for pretending like-- #you werent saying the most vile garbage about him with other people who turned the tumblr jse community an abandoned WASTELAND

[aroaessidhe]

2023 reads // twitter thread  

Tell Me How It Ends

YA fantasy

a young tarot reader who’s barely left her family inn is recruited by a nonbinary thief to break their friend out of prison

friendship, adventure, autistic lesbian MC

#Tell Me How It Ends #aroaessidhe 2023 reads #i was very hype for this and i did enjoy it but it does suffer from some writing issues unforch #the writing a little stilted in places both paragraph wise and also wider plotting and getting from a to b conversation or concept wise….. #like. shes in an entire different city across the ocean at an inn and her brother happens to have double booked the exact same room? #there is not even any lampshading of this plot-convenient coincidence? #that sort of thing #it does have a fantasy racism allegory where theyre different species and also the opressed people are more strong and magical. #i don’t think it’s especially problematic here but it;s just like; conceptually can be… #i would have loved more of an emphasis on how she’s never left the place she grew up & is aching for adventure or something to more justify #why she just leaves with them lmao #also constant “the short man-“ use their name they’re a main character!! #anyway i do appreciate a fantasy that uses the words ace and aro #she hasnt quite figured out shes a lesbian yet but that's also pretty obvious #no romance #<- but I'm assuming there will be later in the series #having said all that; it’s fun i like the characters and when there is a good friend group and no romance i am willing to lower my standards #of writing craft a lot LMAO

[binghe-malewife-goals]

you know I feel like it'd solve a lot of problems if instead of people calling a ship problematic they recognize the ship makes them uncomfortable and then move along

#pina talks #uh discourse? #like youre allowed ro be uncomfortable wirh a ship and not like it its ok u dont have to prove why #idk just a thought #like if you read a book summary and dont like it you probably wont read it to prove why its horrible and terrible #speakinf of which constantly amused by people who find books problematic especially if theyre u know #horror and such #surpise: some stories are meant to make you squirm

[randombubblegum]

“move away from the thinking that someone has to be deemed “problematic” in some way before youre allowed to just hate their vibes” omg can I get this embroidered or something bc HONESTLY

ya im gonna put it on a tshirt and sneak into paris fashion week

#literally SO much stupidity especially online could be spared by like #just NOT LIKING SOMEONE you dont have to make up reasons why theyre bad or problematic whatever the fuck that means #u can just not like someone!!!! thats enough!!! u dont need to make up a reason why theyre like morally repugnant #mail time!

[bluinary]

Me in a personal, untagged, year-old post: I stand in solidarity with jewish people! Yk Black ppl were also demonized and imprisoned during the H*locaust, so our struggles are actually connected, I didn't know this before!

Some chronically online asshat: what about Slav and Romani ppl. We were oppressed in the H*locaust too. 😡

Me: yea I know. I'm talking to my jewish peeps rn though. Also who are you?

Asshat: YOU KNOW,, AS A SLAV I WAS OPREST TOO. .....MENTION ALL OF US IT MAKES NO SENSE OTHERWISE

Me: DUDE HOW DID YOU FIND THIS POST

#blu babbles #get off my blog homie!! #for the record: yes yeah of course i also stand in solidarity with romani and slavic ppl???? #yall havent had a history of tension with the black community though. thats like me iterating i support latinx ppl. #like....obviously hello????? yeah???? #and in america ppl of slavic descent are about as oppressed as italians #yall joined the white social class some time ago. not to say ppl still aren't anti slavic in a demeaning way but uh yeah. #there's not much to report from me there. my one slavic acquaintance is also an immigrant #and i like and respect him. and think yeah he should also have equitable rights and tools to heal from generational trauma. #i dont even know if i know a romani person irl. you see a few in south texas you can arrange us a meeting i guess #but yeah. uh. class wise they were poc. in a europe that didnt even rly have a concept of 'colored' vs 'white' classes. #so yeah. yes. fucking of course theyre important and have my solidarity. im vocal about including them in convos #and am quick to educate those who still use anti-romani slurs. #but again....that specific community has no history of tension with the blk community. why would i bring them up #i made that post in reconciliation with a book i head read by a jewish author with some.......problematic assertions. to say the least #and i was researching black/ jewish relations and ties throughout history. weve had quite a love-hate relationship it seems. #too many blk ppl are specifically antisemitic. and there are many ppl of jewish descent who are hella racist/ anti-black. #the other oppressed groups in the h*locaust dont necesitate conversation or a clear statement of how i feel. jewish ppl do #the post in question was made in 2020 but this is especially relevant now that i work for a jewish school.

[cadaverousdecay]

👻 corpsecourse Follow

dni if you support relationships between vampires and the vampire they sired. i am so serious, i dont care what your justification is, that is an unforgivable power imbalance. its almost as bad as vampire human relationships (and if you support that i hope you get a splinter in the heart)

🧛‍♀️ vampbites Follow

op what the fuck is your problem? more maggots in your brain than usual? go out into the real underworld and touch some graveyard dirt. i know at least 7 vampires who are in happy healthy relationships with the vampire who sired them. me included! this may shock you but we started dating when i was human and she was a vamp!

👻 corpsecourse Follow

i hate to tell you this but you're in a toxic relationship and i sincerely hope youre able to get out.

🧛‍♀️ vampbites Follow

HELLO???????

🦇 battybrained Follow

i keep seeing people saying this shit and honestly i think it stems from the infantalization of humans. humans are capable of making decisions for themselves. do some vampires abuse their powers over humans? of course! but you cant assume that every single human vampire relationship (or sire and sired relationship for that matter) is some unhealthy power imbalance, especially when you dont even know them!!!

⚰ fangs4fags Follow

i think op is forgetting that humans can be just as harmful to vampires as they can be to humans. dont tell me you completely just forgot about the existence of vampire slayers

🧛‍♂️ coffincreeper Follow

next thing you know op is gonna be saying that a hundred year age gap between fully fledged vampires is problematic

👻 corpsecourse Follow

it literally is. i dont care if you are a 1000 years old vampire, if your significant other is 100 years older than you they have more life experience than you. god you guys are stupid why dont you all step into a sunbeam

🩸 f33d3r Follow

hey guys i just went to ops account and their pinned post was about how they dont consider werewolves part of the monster community cuz theyre not undead. just block and move on it is NOT worth it

🐺vamplovingwolf Follow

isnt it funny how whenever theres some rancid discourse like this its always made by coffinscrews

#unreality #vampire tumblr

[chaoticace2005]

Rules for the Hazbin Hotel, authored by Vaggie:

1. No drugs.

2. No fights.

3. No pranks.

4. No problematic language.

5. No murder (OR TERRITORIAL GENOCIDE WHAT THE FUCK ANGEL)

6. No smuggling in of drugs. Not by sticking them up your ass. Or by hiding them in a pizza box. Or by slingshotting them to the roof. Or getting someone else to. Not at all.

7. No sexual rendezvous with outsiders in the hotel. No SHOWING sexual rendezvous with strangers to people of the hotel either.

8. Make sure the pig/future pets stay in the patron’s room. (This includes eggs!!)

9. No singing Limit singing to once twice per day

10. Stop flirting with the bartender Angel

11. Don’t call Husk “Husker” unless he allows it.

12. No harassing the staff at all. This includes asking who tops.

13. Don’t suggest anything sexual/romantic to Alastor unless you want your head cut off.

14. NO CUTTING OFF PEOPLE’S HEADS

15. NO EATING PEOPLE

16. NO MAKING CHARLIE CRY.

17. Don’t ask me to put my spear “inside you” Angel, what the fuck?

18. Don’t turn the interior of the hotel into a swamp?! Keep it contained in your room if you must!

19. No stabbing staff or residents. No matter how much they look like bugs! (OR IF THEYRE NAME IS ANGEL)

20. Don’t try and stab bugs if they’re within 10 feet of another demon.

21. Don’t call anyone a “bitch” OR TALK ABOUT HOW MY NAME SOUNDS LIKE “VAGINA”

22. Limit Niffty’s access to sharp objects.

23. NO DEALS ALASTOR

24. No drinking. Limit drinking at bar.

25. No mentioning the Stock Market Crash of 1929. For everyone’s benefit.

26. Don’t blow a hole in the wall.

27. Try to keep roast battles OUTSIDE the hotel. (Or stop picking fights?? Please Alastor I swear to God…)

28. No spying on the hotel for outside sources or putting technology that can be used against us.

29. No evil laughing in the middle of the night, what the fuck Alastor?

30. No building weapons/war machines.

31. No eggs! (Fine the eggs can stay.)

32. Someone please keep an eye on Niffty. (And the eggs.)

33. Stop touching people ANGEL.

34. Don’t make other people storm off HUSK.

35. Respect boundaries.

36a. If Angel looks like he’s about to pass out/cry don’t comment. Let him do his thing.

36b. Don’t try to talk to Angel if he’s on the phone with Valentino. Honestly don’t even mention his phone calls with Valentino.

37. Please don’t call Lucifer “Daddy”

38. Don’t turn into a 20 foot tall demon-eating creature unless absolutely necessary.

39. Don’t cause angry loan sharks to show up at the front door.

40. NO EXPLOSIONS!

41. Rule #2, “No fights” can be broken if the person you’re fighting is Valentino. Or Adam.

42. Don’t lie to your girlfriend or hide the fact you were secretly an angel.

43. DONT TALK ABOUT PEOPLE’S TITS (or lack of)

44. KNOCK BEFORE ENTERING A BEDROOM ESPECIALLY IF SOMEONE’S HAVING MAKEUP SEX

45. Don’t give people makeovers while they’re sleeping, ANGEL!

46. Don’t pretend to eat someone’s pet, ALASTOR

47. Don’t die.

48. I never want to hear the words “cum-plete” again.

49. STOP HAVING FIGHTS ACROSS THE BUILDING LUCIFER AND ALASTOR!!

50. If Charlie is passed out on the couch LET HER SLEEP

51. No making bombs in the hotel Cherri!

52. Stop breaking rules and then saying it’s “FOR SIR PENTIOUS!”

53. Angel don’t try to shoot someone if they break spaghetti.

54. Don’t break spaghetti. Or “ruin” Italian food. Whatever the fuck that means. This apparently includes pineapple on pizza.

55. Don’t mention Valentino unless Angel brings him up first.

56. Don’t comment on Angel and Husk’s flirting.

57. Only call Angel “Anthony” if things are serious (or if you’re Husk)

58. Don’t use any of the nicknames Husk and Angel use for each other. This includes but is not limited to: “Whiskers”, “Legs”, “Kitty”, “Webs”, “Tony”, “Love”, and “Baby.”

59. It’s better not to question whatever facts Husk gives about his past.

60. Family dinners at 6 pm unless you can’t make it due to prior obligation. Game nights after on Sundays.

61. No hunting people for sport and NO KNIFE MONOPOLY.

62. Don’t attach knives to a roomba so you can have a “boyfriend” Niffty.

63. Keep Niffty away from Roombas.

64. Alastor, treat people with decency. Really, it’s not that hard.

65. No making giant ducks that breathe fire to chase people around the hotel just because they call you short.

66. Therapy. Everyone.

67. DONT HAVE SEX ON THE BAR WHAT THE FUCK GUYS?!

68. If Valentino enters the property you have permission to stab him.

69. “Hell is forever” is bullshit. You guys aren’t. You can do this.

#stupid hazbin hotel lists #hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel memes #hazbin hotel vaggie #vaggie hazbin hotel #vaggie #angel dust hazbin hotel #husk hazbin hotel #charlie hazbin hotel #alastor hazbin hotel #lucifer hazbin hotel #sir pentious #cherri bomb #niffty #hazbin hotel crack #chaggie #huskerdust #angelhusk

[glfry]

reminder that rafal/alear is problematic...

It definitely is! Never said it wasn’t. I don’t ship alear and rafal (because some of the implications of that are-… sure something!), I just wanted a romantic s support with him because of wish fufillment

#it’s a similar situation to people shipping corrin with the royals #like- no one ACTUALLY thinks stuff like that is okay‚ people mainly choose corrin to ship with them though because theyre their self insert #if You give me a stand in for me I will treat that character as me idk what to tell you #like if alear was just some npc and I’d ship them with rafal then yes I absolutely see the problem there #but like…… bro if they give me the option the s support a pretty boy like that I’m #not gonna question what their relation is #especially after characters that are not even barely as problematic (LIKE ALCRYST AND ZELKOV—) get non-romantic ones

[starlightnavis]

Fandom: either persona 3 or 4? Whichever you prefer! :)

just did p3 here!! i'll do p4 for this one :] (also heres the ask game!! i forgot to link it on the other one akshasdh)

blorbo - YOSUKE absolutely yosuke i love him (and also yu bc im a sucker for the protags apparently)

scrunkly - nanako tbh shes just so CUTE i wanna give her a big hug shes just the sweetest little thing ):

scrimblo bimblo - does kou count as underappreciated?? if so then kou :>

glup shitto - the cats i actually dont know for this one... maybe tanaka again since the only time hes there is for his show KAJHAKSDH

poor little meow meow - i mean. id say adachi is uh. fairly problematic. and i think hes great. akjshsakdhasdk

horse plinko - either yosuke or kanji tbh im MEAN and i wanna see em POUT (but mostly yosuke. i feel like id get along quite well with kanji tbh)

eeby deeby - morooka fuck that guy

#squishy rambles #ask game #i promise i do like the girls too akjhdsk #especially rise!! i love rise #none of the girls are really underrated or problematic tho #theyre all too popular akshsakdhg

[me-myselfandziall]

just saw somebody say they wouldn’t write a kinnporsche au with a ship from another show bc they found kp problematic. but then went on to say they were writing a mafia au. THATS WHAT KINNPORSCHE IS!!! HOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?!!?!

#im just so confused #like i get vegaspete isnt the best example of a relationship #but shows dont have to be all morally correct #thats why theyre fiction #we can still like them even if they dont reflect real life values/morals #also whats so problematic about kinnporsche in general??? #again especially if youre going to write a mafia au bc its obviously not the blood and killing

[lesbicastagna]

comunque mi da' un fastidio inspiegabile quando la gente online pensa sempre il peggio degli autori. in italiano perché non ho voglia ora ma se non lo dico continuo a rodermi.

nel senso che l'altro giorno ho visto qualcuno parlare del poema del vento e degli alberi senza neanche Nominare il titolo e tantomeno l'autrice ma semplicemente per citarlo come cosa "problematica". allora. Takemiya ha scritto nero su bianco pagine e pagine e rilasciato interviste su interviste Anche se ti rifiuti di leggere l'opera in sé per qualsiasi motivo (le tematiche pesanti etc figuriamoci lungi da me giudicare cosa uno può digerire). Ma sbolognare un'opera fondamentale quando si parla di manga e un'autrice che ha letteralmente inventato un genere e ha rischiato il lavoro e ha usato tutti i suoi risparmi e larga parte della sua carriera per pubblicare questa opera...dicendo semplicemente che lo ha fatto perché feticizza l'omosessualità??? perché le piace disegnare i ragazzini in vestiti vittoriani? ma vi sentite ma ragionate quando dite le cose. per favore.

è sempre lo stesso discorso. non penso che la signora takemiya e le sue opere siano perfette ed esenti da critiche ma sarà possibile per amor di dio una via di mezzo quando si tratta di letteratura. Possiamo capire da che mentalità viene e quali limiti ha un autore e gli errori che fa senza pensare che sta gente che nel 90% dei casi spendono la loro vita per creare la loro arte ottenendo delle briciole in cambio lo fa solo per? Pubblicare i loro fetish per il grande pubblico?

#read the interviews authors release please please. then you can come out of it thinking theyre shit people but at least try to understand #bc ultimately who benefits from simply saying. oh this thing is problematic. ? #tell me why and how and in which ways Especially when it comes to things obviously meant for adults like we can all use our brains here #its much more useful if we could discuss in which ways an author's bigotry or rely on stereotypes influences their art #without pretending its not there and without condemning them to bigots perverts. i think #a #yeah ok fine the context i found this in is obviously impossible to ask for understanding of themes but i was especially pissed exactly bc #takemiya is a woman. whose career was deeply hindered by this. and to not even say her name while shit talking her life work which #by the way this person was talking you could tell they didnt read. to not even say her name while quoting her as a problematic source #for mister i hurt my women characters for fun. i saw red im sorry