ganondorf in the demon king arc really woke up in the morning slamming his fist on his nightstand like i NEED to hire every cunty little wizard without eyebrows in my army. NOW!!!!!!
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my guys, i do know who needs to hear this but i don't want to @ anyone... but if you copy tags from someone you gotta at least write "< prev" or something bc a) it's rude not doing that and b) tags are a form of communication and so is copying them!! pls talk to the person who's tags you're copying, doesn't have to be a novel, an exlamation mark will do but please say something!!
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Is CloverWorks entirely at fault for TPN S2's mangled production?
I see so many people default to blaming CloverWorks for being the sole arbiter of S2's horribly disappointing production (sometimes Shirai is added into the mix too, especially by anime-onlys), but every time I do I'm genuinely asking the question of whether that's true and where they're pulling their information from.
I'm not involved in the animation industry at all so I'm interested in receiving input from people who are more familiar with it, but my understanding is the people in charge of the decision to truncate S2 would be The Promised Neverland Committee listed at the end of the opening credits.
(I could not find a single video of the English dub that aired on [adult swim] for the English credits of S1, so a screencap from the Japanese credits)
TPN Committee is comprised of the following entities: Aniplex (Distributor), Fuji TV (TV Station), Shueisha (Manga Publisher), Cygames Anime Fund, Dentsu (ads)
(Sources 1 | 2 | 3)
kViN from Sakugabooru details what a production company is in this post:
"I personally find it enjoyable to see who is involved in a show, and as you’ve seen there is plenty of information to draw from that. Animation production studios are listed in the credits for each show, so it’s understandable why audiences would imagine they have a ton of influence over a production. It’s even natural to think that the company that is actually manufacturing something would have great input! If you start paying attention to these committees though, you get a clearer picture of the finances of production and how each show is actually made rather than assume that studios that often don’t have much of a say are in charge of everything."
And CloverWorks is the more prominent name, especially for English speakers watching the subbed version of the series.
This is also something that Geoff Thew brings up in the last seven minutes of this video around the 18:50 mark:
"I'd bet good money that the last credits were supposed to roll right after that big stone door slammed shut, and I'd further wager that a combination of fan reactions to and dipping ratings for early episodes is what caused the production committee—who are the ones who actually have final say in this, not Cloverworks or even Shirai—to cut their losses and turn that cliffhanger into a skeleton of a conclusion."
I disagree with him on them making the call to retool the series during the clipshow episode between S2e05 and S2e06 though. It doesn’t seem like they had enough time to do that when a single episode of animation takes on average nine months to complete, even with the ridiculous crunch they seemed to be in. My guess is it was made back in early 2020 after Shirai made everyone involved in production aware the manga was ending that year, with the pandemic potentially factoring in to a degree.
He also mentions this a bit earlier:
"It's just such a slap in face to anyone who ever gave a shit about any version of this story. Including the people telling it, apparently, since neither of the anime's screenwriters nor mangaka/series composer Shirai wanted to take credit for the last two episodes. They probably didn't have much say in how it all went down. That's important to keep in mind before you start yelling at animators or even studios on twitter. I guarantee that every adaption that hurts you personally was ten times harder on the people who actually had to make it. As hackishily slapdash as this finale is, a lot of people probably slept under their desks to get it out the door, if they slept at all."
I always come back to this tiny addition toward the end of S2 episode 2 as an indication that on the creative side of things, in storyboarding and animation at CloverWorks, the care was still there at some level.
It was just squashed down in order to cut and condense 146 chapters into 11 episodes for a production that, as ZersEditor puts here, was "bleeding money."
But CloverWorks is less to type out, so they get the majority of the ire over a tragically butchered production in casual conversation.
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I will post a terrible drawing of Pearl from Steven Universe for every day of October.
(Three Pearls today since I’m starting three days in lol)
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Izzy and Bury Your Gays: The Amatonormative angle
This is mostly a thought that has emerged in attempting to write a response to the conversation happening on mottlemoth’s post about Bury Your Gays but I realized I was trying to articulate an idea that needed more than me typing on my phone during lunch at work
This takes a rather meandering path to my conclusion but I wrote it this way to show what my thought process was.
https://www.tumblr.com/ramblingruminations/732751632764403712/to-me-ofmd-works-because-the-revenge-is-an-entity?source=share&ref=ramblingruminations
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