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A very popular power set, especially with Disney-Marvel.
11 out of the 18 are Marvel.
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Essential Avengers: West Coast Avengers #46: FRANCHISE
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July, 1989
Great Lakes Avengers Assemble?!
I have been waiting for this.
I've read this issue before, in a collected edition of Dan Slott's Great Lakes Avengers miniseries. But now I have all the context leading up to this and I'll get to see what else this wacky group did in their early appearances.
And, hell. Out of everything in the Byrne run so far, this is his first shake up that's not deeply annoying!
Byrne is the one who pulls the trigger on the idea of a third Avengers team teased when Vision was trying to expand the Avengers. But not quite as he enVisioned it.
Hah.
Last times on West Coast Avengers: Between issues, Tigra, Hank Pym, and the Wasp joined the West Coast Avengers. Then Vision got kidnapped by every government in the world and disassembled into a pile of parts. Hank Pym puts everyone's favorite synthezoid back together but he's all white now and he doesn't have emotions and only has Avengers case files for memories.
The American government also forced the West Coast Avengers to take on US Agent or else reprisals. Hawkeye quit in a huff after US Agent tosses him after Hawkeye tried to punch him.
We learned in the big Avengers meeting over in Avengers that Hawkeye has a new group so let's get into it.
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Geez, Mr Immortal, you're a bit manic there.
A bank robbery is happening at the Milwaukee Farmers and Merchants Trust. And we know this is Milwaukee because one of the robbers very considerately wears a Milwaukee jacket.
A dude we'll later learn is called Mr Immortal drops down from the ceiling, quips a bit, dodges some gunfire, hits a couple dudes, and then... doesn't dodge some other gunfire.
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That looks like it hurts.
The robbers gather around the dead, deceased hero to make sure he's really dead.
And he's gotta be, right? Half of his chest is bulleted to hell.
And then things go to hell. For the robbers.
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Flatman swipes the hostages with his stretchy definitely not a spoof of Mr Fantastic body. Big Bertha OH YEAHs through the wall. Dinah Soar flies through a Doorman shaped portal in another wall.
The Great Lakes Avengers are usually treated comically. They're a ridiculous team, operating in a ridiculous area, with ridiculous powers and the big joke about them in the Dan Slott series was how they were constantly overshadowed by the official Avengers and how none of the other heroes wanted to interact with them.
Except Squirrel Girl, who they hired by sorta lying that they were the real Avengers.
Ridiculous group with ridiculous powers they may be but in this action sequence, they're coordinated. They had a good plan to distract the robbers so the hostages could be pulled out of harms way. And then their ridiculous powers took down the gunmen no problem.
Yeah, these guys aren't going to be fighting Doctor Doom without hefty authorial fiat (but isn't that the way all comics work anyway?) but they're not bumbling amateurs.
And I appreciate that.
Last robber standing backs away in shock horror... right into the arms of Mr Immortal.
Who is not, in fact, dead. Or at least, he didn't stay dead.
Immortal, y'know?
Robber: "They're poppin' outta th' woodwork! Who are these geeks? Milwaukee don't have no super heroes!" Mr Immortal: "Guess again! Y'all are gonna be seein' a lot of us from now on! Y'all are gonna be seein' us in your nightmares!" Robber: "Wha...? No!! You're dead!!!" Mr Immortal: "Wrong-o, creep! I'm just as right as rain! But you aren't gonna be! By the time I get done with you... You'll prob'ly never be anything like right. Not never again!!"
Mr Immortal apparently goes a bit berserk after resurrecting.
He punches the robber down and then starts stomping him.
Flatman has to pull him off the guy. And Mr Immortal won't settle down until Dinah Soar talks to him in an empty text bubble.
Dinah Soar is the only one who CAN get him to calm down.
Flatman guesses its some kind of hypersonic. In the later Dan Slott series, its revealed that its actually True Love what does it. Yes, for serious. It was sweet, actually.
Last member of the team comes into the bank and tells the rest that there's a bunch of police and reporters who want to know what the devil is going on.
Mr Immortal goes out to address the crowd and press. When reporter Peggy Allen asks him who this group of do-gooders is, he dubs the team...
THE GREAT LAKES AVENGERS!
Hawkeye hears the news report in the random motel he's staying in after rage-quitting the Avengers.
His first instinct is to call the team and let them know about randos infringing the brand but then decides 'fuck 'em' because he's still mad about the government meddling in the team.
There's a knok knok knoking on Clint's door and making his bad mood worse, its Mockingbird.
He is very sarcastic about his day being ruined but she says she's here to save their marriage.
News to him. He thought they were dead set on getting a divorce.
But time off-panel and with a different writer has cooled Mockingbird's head. And since they're both going through some trying times now, maybe they should rethink things.
Hawkeye: "You mean now that I've been kicked off the team I founded I'm all of a sudden a pitiful soul so you've gone all maternal and decided to come back to the roost and take care of me! Well, thanks but no thanks, Bobbi!" Mockingbird: "You're not being fair, Clint. Although I guess that's nothing new, is it?" Hawkeye: "And just what is that supposed to mean?" Mockingbird: "It means you have all the sensitivity of a brick. I got mixed up with the Phantom Rider because he drugged me, used me, and when you found out, did you react like a husband whose wife has been assaulted? NO!! You went off on some stupid macho kick! And I was hurt enough to pay you back with your own coin. When I needed you -- maybe more than I ever have before -- you were too busy stroking your wounded male ego to notice. Something that could have bound us even closer together drove us apart. Well... that damage is done. Now I'm here to see if it can be undone. Because, heaven help me, in spite of everything, I still love you!"
I can't believe Byrne of all people is cutting through the bullshit and having Mockingbird say 'hey all that stuff we were yelling about wasn't the crux of the issue and you were being a major asshole, Clint.'
He's re-litigating a lot of Englehart's stuff. Redoing the Tigra plot. Revising Englehart's origin for Vision. Shoving people that had quit back onto the team.
I didn't expect him to use this power for good.
Because the Hawkeye/Mockingbird falling out was bad. Maybe in character for the two stubborn jerks. But it needed another look and here we are, taking another look.
Mockingbird doesn't even entertain the notion that its really a philosophical disagreement about cowboy manslaughter.
I'll have to see where it goes. Because it could go poorly in its own unique way.
Back over at the West Coast Avengers Compound, US Agent has made a good impression on one person and only one person.
The new cook, Mrs. Heyges, who is pleased to see someone that actually enjoys a big breakfast.
Most of the West Coast Avengers only have a slice of toast and some orange juice.
US Agent: "A man has to keep his strength up, Mrs. Heyges. And, of course, breakfast is the most important meal of the day. Besides... You're almost as good a cook as my mother!" Mrs. Heyges: "Well, gracias, sir! I know that must be quite a compliment."
Based on her comments that she doesn't get to really cook for the others, US Agent muses that he should introduce a proper meal schedule.
Then, Tigra happens.
Looking for a proper meal of her own.
A.k.a. chasing a mouse.
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She's seemingly gone full feral, although she doesn't have that same alien cat look she did last time.
Either Byrne thought better of it or it comes and goes for some damn reason.
She chases a mouse in, hisses and growls when US Agent grabs her, and sullenly creeps away when he slaps her for trying to bite him.
The cat instincts have taken over.
(I don't love that we're doing this again but it is better than her trying to hump everyone? I mean. Slightly better. The main reason I'm annoyed is that we're just doing this plot again. In a vacuum it wouldn't be so bad.)
(Also also, last time she jumped through a window to chase a bird. I can only assume she's destroyed the local bird population. Folks, Tigras are inside Avengers. Keep them inside for their own health and for the good of the ecosystem.)
Mrs. Heyges says that Tigra has been hunting the mice that get into the pantry. And she's new here and didn't really want to tell an Avenger what to do so she just sorta figured. Hunting mice was part of Tigra's job??
US Agent declares this very gross and decides something has to be done!
I mean. Something does need to be done. It speaks ill of everyone that nobody has noticed Tigra's issues until now. And the only dude that sorta knew she was going through something was Hawkeye and he stormed off in a huff.
I guess Wanda is going through some stuff. And Wonder Man is being kind of a creep about Wanda's stuff. And Vision is very neutral on everything these days. But fucks sake, Wasp or Hank Pym. You two are the adults here!
Over in the A-plot, Mockingbird has convinced Hawkeye to go to Milwaukee to check out the group calling themselves Avengers. Because it beats him sitting around feeling sorry for himself for rage-quitting the West Coast Avengers.
Although, he's rewritten history so that he was unjustly fired.
But since he had the impulse to go check out the Great Lakes Avengers, why not ride that impulse into something productive?
So over in Milwaukee, the Great Lakes Avengers check out mysterious lights over the Germania Building.
Mr Immortal sends Dinah Soar to check out the roof of the building and has Doorman make a portal (with his BODY) so Flatman can get inside the building and look for a way to let everyone else in.
Flatman thinks to himself how weird it is that when he goes through Doorman, he feels like he's briefly in another place entirely. Like, not even on Earth anymore.
Apparently, a subtle nod to Doorman's powers working through the Darkforce Dimension.
Up on the roof, Dinah Soar gets ambushed and captured by some manner of bola arrow.
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At the mercy of this mystery assailant, Dinah Soar takes out a little whistle and sadly tweets on it.
Mr Immortal and Big Bertha hear the sad tooting and realize Dinah Soar is in trouble!
So Big Bertha gets Mr Immortal to hang onto her back and high jumps to the roof to get him there in a hurry.
To the mystery assailant's bafflement.
Mr Immortal: "You get clear now while I take care of this clown." Mystery Assailant who is definitely not Hawkeye: "'Clown?' Takes spunk to wear a suit like that and call somebody else a clown, pal!"
Glass houses, mystery assailant.
Big Bertha falls back to ground level, laughing all the way.
I am not sure why she does this. In other stuff, she's usually one of the more serious members of the Great Lakes Avengers.
Anyway, some more Great Lakes Avengers thoughts. Presumably Big Bertha could have pulled herself up onto the roof. She's got super strength. But mystery assailant has already captured Dinah Soar so Mr Immortal is going in alone to feel the guy out.
He doesn't die when he's killed. He's the best for gauging threat level.
He's also a clown, whether or not you think his costume is sillier than anyone else's. Lets say Hawkeye, for the sake of an example.
He acrobats around mystery assailant and proclaims "Okay, wiseguy... I don't know what your game is... but you're way out of your league... now that the Avengers are here!"
Leading mystery assailant to reveal himself to be... AN IMPOSTER DRESSED LIKE HAWKEYE??
Hawkeye: "'Dressed as Hawkeye...??' I am Hawkeye, an' I'm here to find out what you so-called 'Avengers' think you're up to! In case you don't know it, buster, the Avengers' name isn't up for grabs by any ol' Tom, Dick, an' Harriet!"
So Mr Immortal kicks him in the face for impersonating an Avenger. That's rude, y'know. Probably not a felony BUT MAYBE IT SHOULD BE.
Mr Immortal: "You think you can defeat the Avengers by pretending to be Hawkeye? The real Hawkeye would have blocked my attack easily!"
Mockingbird shows up and repays the favor by kicking Mr Immortal in the face for kicking Hawkeye in the face.
She explains that Hawkeye sucks ass at close quarters combat. I don't think that's entirely true but I like to think Mockingbird isn't above being a little petty.
Mr Immortal is alarmed that there's a woman impersonating Mockingbird now!
It turns out that Mr Immortal is almost current with superhero gossip.
He knows that Mockingbird and Hawkeye have split up, he knows that Mockingbird quit the Avengers. He doesn't know that Hawkeye recently also quit the Avengers.
So you can see where the confusion comes from.
You might not see why Mr Immortal decides his next move is to backflip off the roof.
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Maybe he wanted to see how the "imposters" would react to it.
Well, not personally. He'd have to rely on someone else telling him how they reacted to it. He's temporarily dead from hitting the ground really hard.
But Flatman saw the whole thing and realized that Mockingbird sounds sincerely distraught that a dude just died.
Hawkeye: "Flatman?? I don't believe it! You got a partner called 'Ribbon?'"
Its funny that DC comics is apparently fictional within Marvel because the Avengers have also met the Justice League.
Silly comics.
Mockingbird berates Hawkeye's joke for being inappropriate. A man just died!
Flatman awkwardly explains that Mr Immortal doesn't really die.
So at Mockingbird's request, they all convene at Great Lakes Avengers' HQ... er... Big Bertha's place.
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It's a fancy place.
Hawkeye asks how she can afford such nice digs but it turns out that when Big Bertha isn't superheroing, she's supermodel Ashely Crawford, darling of many Vogue covers. One of the highest paid models in the biz.
So Hawkeye asks what a successful model is doing "playing super hero."
And again, at this point the West Coast Avengers are silly. They're comical. They're not a joke.
Big Bertha: "I don't think of it as... playing, Hawkeye. None of us do. We're all just as serious about this as you are."
Yeah, Hawkeye!
Mockingbird asks how the group got together... and why "Great Lakes Avengers"?
We don't get the whole story now but it's implied that Mr Immortal go them together and stated that the name was his idea. He wanted to maintain the coastal theme but there's no north coast so...
But the real question that Mockingbird is getting at is who do the Great Lakes Avengers think they are, using the Avengers brand without permission? The Avengers are pretty fussy about who gets called Avenger! Says the lady who is not currently an Avenger!
I don't think she actually cares. But she assumes Hawkeye cares and she's here to get his mind on anything but fuming about US Agent or her.
Annnnnd Hawkeye has changed his mind!
Hawkeye: "I'm startin' to think maybe this Midwest team isn't such a bad idea. Your powers are kinda funky, and your code names stink... But with the proper management... my management... This could be a heckuva team!"
Ah, dammit, Hawkeye! You ragequit one team so you're going to force your way onto this one, huh?
I don't know how it will be handled immediately in this book but after the fact, in the later Dan Slott series, the Great Lakes Avengers view the whole thing pretty cheerfully.
The big league came down to coach their team. It gives them credibility and helps them be better at superheroing, which they're all pretty serious about.
I'll have to see how it unfolds as it goes though.
Current team lead Mr Immortal is still regrowing his brains and hasn't expressed an opinion on Hawkeye's pending takeover.
It is so funny though! Hawkeye gets forced out of the West Coast Avengers slash quits so his rebound is to just take over someone else's team!
He does the same thing when he accidentally screws himself out of a spot on Busiek's Avengers! Tracks down the Thunderbolts and goes 'my team now.'
It may be his real superpower.
Anyway, the other B-plot.
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Wanda seems to be doing better after the whole husband robot thing and dropping a cliff on Wonder Man. Maybe. Hard to say. She's had a good swim, at least.
And then Roberto Carlos of the Avengers Compound Support Staff brings Wanda a letter from the Absolon College of Robotics.
Remember Absolon College had that big list of mutants to do Something With and Wanda is the one they settled on?
The letter claims that their research into artificial intelligence may be able to restore Vision back to his good ol' self.
Is... is it public knowledge that Vision was taken apart by the government and had his brain FUBAR'd??
Because if not, that's a red flag!
The other red flag is that the letter is from Jeremiah Random, which sounds like a made-up name!
This is going to end badly! And I'm not just saying that because the next time box says THIS ANCIENT EVIL!
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extraordinary-heroes · 10 months
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Great Lakes Avengers #1 (Cover art by Will Robson)
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365 Marvel Comics Paper Cut-Out SuperHeroes - One Hero, Every Day, All Year…
June 26th - Flatman
Val Ventura is a Mutant possessing the X-gene.  His Mutant abilities manifested in late adolescence whereupon he discovered that his body possesses an extreme flexibility enabling him to flatten his form to a mere half inch of width and stretch his limbs and torso over great lengths.  This malleability additionally bestows Val a high degree of resistance to injury.
Val grew up in a suburban area of Wisconsin and he rarely found himself in need of using his special abilities.  His boyfriend gave him the idea of becoming a Mr. Fantastic impersonator where he would be hired to go to parties and use his powers to pretend to be the renown hero.  This proved a successful venture and, having associated himself with Reed Richards, Val managed to avoid much of the anti-Mutant sentiment that pervaded much of the country.  Indeed he enjoyed being treated as a hero so much that he decided to become one in ernest.
Dubbing himself ‘Flatman,’ Val joined together with other Midwestern heroes in creating the Great Lakes Avengers, an unofficial subsidiary of The Avengers that attended to whatever superhero-style crises that might occur in the Midwest region.  These tended to be few and far in-between, but Flatman and the Great Lakes Avengers have nonetheless proven their valor against foes both large and small.  
The hero first appeared in the pages of West Coast Avengers Vol. 2 #46 (1989).  
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They barely put up a fight.
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Big Bertha (Ashley Crawford) . What is your favorite story featuring Big Bertha and the Great Lakes Avengers? . 1st - 4th slide is from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe v3 3 (1991) by Keith Pollard and Josef Rubinstein. 5th - 9th slide is from West Coast Avengers vol 2 46 (1989) by John Byrne and Mike Machlan. . #Marvel #bigbirtha #greatlakesavengers #avengers #johnbyrne #mikemachlan #doorman #misterimmortal #flatman # https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd1n5ziq8NC/?igshid=NGJjMDIxMWI=
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(Slott, Dan. GLX-Mas Special. New York: Marvel Comics, 2005)
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The Tournament of X
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thebibliomancer · 3 months
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Essential Avengers: Avengers #309: To Find OLYMPIA!
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November, 1989
Namor looks like he's got some negative things to say, in the zone.
And it is canon sometimes that the Negative Zone makes a person feel negative. Its the Bad Vibes Place.
I have no idea why dead Gilgamesh was drawn with the What's Going On He-Man face. Or why She-Hulk is in her Fantastic Four duds.
So, lets get into it.
Last times, in Avengers: Captain America held a meeting to declare that all the Avengers teams were one team and he was in charge of the Avengers. Also, the Avengers got kidnapped by Lava Men. And so did Namor. They were taken to the Last Lava Man, a priest called Jinku, who accused the Avengers of genociding the Lava Men, which they kinda sorta did do by killing a random demon named Cha'sa'dra during Inferno. The Avengers don't beat Jinku and the giant monster he summoned so much as run out the clock. Some of the dead Lava Men turned out to not be dead so much as incubating. They hatched into golden men and told Jinku to knock it off. Alas?, Gilgamesh got fatally slapped while fighting the lava monster and is now exceptionally dead. The Avengers take Gilgamesh to Sersi who can't help and suggests they take him to the Eternal city Olympia. Except Eternal Sprite managed to blow it up like ten minutes before they get there. The whole city.
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Just a big, steaming crater now.
Thanks Sprite, you screw-up.
Sersi: "It is... gone! All of fabled Olympia! Snuffed out as a flickering candle flame! How can this be??"
Captain America tries to offer any help the Avengers can do. But Sersi just dramatically faints after psychically scanning for any trace of Olympia.
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She murmurs about emptiness and enormity and the loneliness of endless space.
Such a dramatic person.
There's also a weird bit of choreography where Captain America caught Sersi when she fainted. So he's clearly not holding his shield. He tells She-Hulk to hold it for him but she's already holding it and must have grabbed it when he dropped it to pick up Sersi, since she's right behind him in that panel.
And she gives it right back to him as soon as he's put Sersi down.
So why was it necessary for Cap to tell She-Hulk to do something she was already doing? Did Byrne worry that the choreography wouldn't stand on its own?
Ah well.
The Avengers wonder if there's something wrong with the Eternals lately. Because, well, Gilgamesh is mostly dead despite being Eternal and the Lava Monster didn't hit him THAT hard.
Gilgamesh should have been able to heal himself, since all Eternals have the power of molecular manipulation over their own bodies.
Sersi drifts back to consciousness and explains that "all Eternals an sense the minds of all other Eternals no matter the range" so she tried reaching out.
She sensed them near but not on Earth.
Which Cap finds baffling. But Thor has an idea what she means.
Remember how his hammer used to be able to create dimensional portals and then it couldn't? Well, it can again.
He figures that near but far probably means another dimension. And he doesn't have to be precise. When all you have is a hammer, it helps if its a really, really cool hammer.
Thor just wills "let the powers that split the raging heavens now be focused here, into a single place, a single purpose... and let any barrier betwixt us and Olympia... be SUNDERED!"
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And bippity boppity boo, a portal is opened through.
To the Negative Zone, apparently. Well, the cover spoiled that. You're not special for realizing it on sight, She-Hulk.
Sersi confirms that Thor hit the nail on the head. In the Negative Zone she can indeed sense Olympia.
She-Hulk: "In the Negative Zone? But... how the heck did it get there? I thought the only access was through the portal in the Fantastic Four's headquarters." Thor: "Nay, green one. That is but one way to reach this parallel dimension. Mjolnir hath opened this small gateway by drawing on the residual energies of whatever force dispatched Oympia hence."
Namor says that the time for discussion is over. If Olympia is in the Negative Zone, the only hope for Gilgamesh will be to find it.
Sersi agrees.
Sersi: "We must go now where Olympia has gone... into the Negative Zone!"
"Meanwhile, elsewhere" we check back in on old guy who blew up his own house subplot.
Professor Harker takes the blueprints for his fantabulous new invention to the Polydyne company and blows them away!
A guy in a tie: "It's absolutely amazing! Something like this is going to make cold fusion seem as antiquated as rubbing two sticks together! Why... the kind of power that could be harnessed from a single such device would be enough to supply the needs of the whole world for centuries!"
Professor Harker himself prefers to think of it as more the power to re-shape the whole universe maybe. But the Polydyne peeps warn him the money men won't understand that so maybe stick with the 'makes cold fusion look like a joke' sales pitch.
Meanwhile, elsewhere, the Great Lakes Avengers!
Huh, I guess Byrne really is writing three teams in two books since the GLA is showing up in East Coast Avengers now.
I do worry that it's going to be hard to balance between the needs of the book's actual team and whatever Great Lakes Avengers content is showing up this month.
Hawkeye tells the Great Lakes Avengers that they did okay against the Absolom University chumps but they could have done a lot better.
I mean. They were only in action for a few pages so I don't know how you can tell.
But anyway, Hawkeye and Mockingbird have come up with carefully tailored training for the team!
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Carefully tailored until they ran out of steam halfway and decided Mr Immortal and Doorman's powers were too weird to train and just have them training in athletics.
Didn't even try with Flatman. Hawkeye just tells him to do whatever he wants.
Pretty amazing how quickly Hawkeye goes from Tough Coach to half-assed.
So they have Dinah Soar flying while dodging hay bales, Big Bertha doing track and field, Mr Immortal and Doorman doing an obstacle course, and Flatman also doing an obstacle course but with more wiggling.
Hawkeye decides to throw a wrinkle in the training by shooting a grease arrow right in front of Big Bertha.
She slips, bumps into a fatphobic Mr Immortal, and he falls into Doorman.
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Literally into.
This is weird because Doorman's powers are only supposed to work if he's against a door or a wall. Y'know, so his body can function as a door?
He's never had someone go through him when there wasn't a through.
Dinah Soar doesn't wait around for them to talk through the situation.
She flies right into Doorman. Literally into. And soon after flies out carrying Mr Immortal.
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She cradles him against her chest as he shivers that it was so cold inside wherever he was.
Y'know... Next time the Great Lakes Avengers gets a miniseries or whatever, they should resurrect Dinah Soar. She missed out on a lot of the modern fleshing out the team got because her death basically kicked off the plot of the Dan Slott miniseries.
A new Great Lakes Avengers thing could have a lot of fun bringing her back and making it a whole thing about comic book resurrections.
C'mon, do it.
Anyway, Hawkeye decides they're gonna do a bunch of tests on Doorman, until they figure out how he works.
I was going to joke about Hawkeye trying to do science but I did then remember that Mockingbird does have a Ph.D.
In biology which may or may not wholly cover whatever is going on here. But in comics, a Ph.D. can do all the science.
Look at Hank Pym, revolutionizing robotics (derogatory) when his degree was in biochemistry. Almost as far from robotics as you can get.
Meanwhile, the A-plot.
I've missed it so.
... Actually, its the Save Gilgamesh plot so I didn't miss it so much.
Byrne is blatantly pushing to make the Great Lakes Avengers a thing but the main plots in both the Avengers plots are so blah that I don't actually mind the Great Lakes Avengers panel-time takeover so much.
Anyway, instead of just walking through the portal, the Avengers stopped to go get their Quinjet and are flying it through the Negative Zone.
I guess this is one of the space capable ones.
They're relying on Sersi's psychic connection with all other Eternals to guide them and she says they're on the right track.
Although the Avengers are doubtful about that since they just passed themselves.
I didn't know the Negative Zone did that.
Sersi insists that they're going the right way but she doesn't sound sure.
Cap agrees to keep going the way she's indicating but only for another hour or so! After that, they'll presumably have a very serious conversation about trying something else!
But Sersi was leading them right. Because right after that interaction, they find Olympia.
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Just floating in the Negative Zone.
(Dammit, Sprite!)
The place is deserted - although most of the population was already gone before Sprite blew the place up so grain of salt on it looking deserted when it practically already was.
But it also looks decrepit, like its crumbling into ruin.
Sersi still senses her fellow Eternals... somewhere. So they land to look.
Namor flies off on his little ankle wings to scout around the city. And soon returns reporting he found nothing but a vague sense of unease.
He didn't see anyone in the city but he felt a presence all around.
Cap echoes his unease. The place feels haunted. Which Sersi dismisses since Eternals can't die.
Namor: "Yet that is precisely what is happening to Gilgamesh."
Acksually, he's only mostly dead.
Sersi wonders whether Olympia being lost in the Negative Zone and the Eternals being missing might somehow be related to Gilgamesh's advanced case of being sorta but not really dead.
Cap suggests they Split Up, They'll Cover More Ground That Way.
Thor is sent off on his own because he's a big, tough guy. She-Hulk and Sersi are sent off as a team. And Namor and Captain America make up the last team.
=_= Like. Did he put all the girls (all two girls) on the same team on purpose? Did he just want to hang out with his Nazi-punching World War II buddy, Namor?
Because. They discuss World War II as they're hopping and flying around the city. So it could very well be the second reason.
Captain America and Namor discuss how Olympia feels similar to Berlin in the last days of World War II. How it feels like there's an emptiness of spirit or the bitterness of "the death of dreams."
Cap worries that all they've accomplished on this journey is bringing Sersi to witness the end of the Eternals.
BUT NAMOR DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO CARE ABOUT THAT.
He re-steers the conversation back to how cool it is to hang out with an old-Nazi punching buddy. He misses the old gang.
Cap mentions that hey, recent revelations are that Vision wasn't made out of the Human Torch which means the Human Torch is maybe, probably, still around!
Namor: "Aye, and aye again! If he could be found... reactivated! The Invaders might well live again..."
Ugh.
I assume that was a huge part of Byrne's reasoning to do the VisionQuest plot.
He was big mad that robot Human Torch got tied up in Vision's origin and he wanted to peel him away so he could bring the Invaders back as a team again.
Either as a third book he'd be writing or as a fourth team he'd be writing in the two books he already had.
Every so many years, Marvel tries to bring the Invaders back.
I assume due to trademark reasons.
And it never lasts. Because the team doesn't make much sense outside a war. And any modern wars they've been shoved into are... just fraught with issues.
A new Invaders book was spun off from the Avengers way down the line to deal with the War on Terror and it was not great.
Anyway, a mystery off-screen person also agrees with me that reforming the Invaders is stupid as fuck and blows up Captain America and Namor.
Alas.
Meanwhile, She-Hulk and Sersi (designated lady team not cool enough to hang out with the Nazi punching boys) walk through the High Tower of Olympia, toward the Great Hall.
She-Hulk tries to mention she heard a far-off distant sound like thunder and also muses on how weird it is that the Negative Zone has breathable atmosphere but Sersi tells her to shut up.
THIS IS THE HIGH TOWER OF OLYMPIA, HUMANS DON'T USUALLY GET TO WALK THIS PASSAGE. BE IMPRESSED BY THE GRANDEUR, SHE-HULK.
Sersi: "This is the High Tower of Olympia -- the seat of our government, the holy of holies. No human has ever walked this passageway... Ahead lies the Great Hall, the central meeting place of all Eternals. Tread softly now in this hallowed place. Choose every word with care. Beyond these doors lies the very heart of Olympia. Draw your breath in awe at what will now unfold..."
Then she walks into a door.
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Honestly, that's a funny gag.
Presumably the doors are supposed to swing open when an Eternal approaches them.
But, obviously, that's not happening.
So She-Hulk just shoves the doors open and strides on through.
She-Hulk: "Excuse me if I don't pay this place quite the respect you seem to think it's due, Sers... but let's try a more direct approach to opening these doors."
I hope She-Hulk sticks with the team whenever Sersi ends up joining. These two seem like they would have a hilarious dynamic.
The Great Hall seems to have been through a war, of some kind.
There's holes in the walls, pillars are shattered, the stonework is cracked.
In shock, Sersi declares no force on Earth could do this kind of damage. Especially not the Deviants. Not that there are any on Earth, since they were all launched into space as a cube. Probably.
Also, they're not on Earth. There's a lot of things in the Negative Zone that are heavy hitters. It's why people don't go there for fun. That and it makes people depressed to be there.
Weirder than the damaged state of the hall, Sersi can sense her fellow Eternals here, somehow! Here in this room! Everywhere around She-Hulk and Sersi! Despite the two seeming to be alone here!
Still angered by the idea of the Invaders reforming, someone blows up the Great Hall.
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She-Hulk and Sersi are sent flying by the explosion.
And despite being gamma strong, there's something weird with gravity, so the fall knocks She-Hulk out despite cannonballing through seventeen stories of building in Avengers West Coast. Gravity is to blame.
Thor is aggroed by all these explosions. Like She-Hulk, he assumes that its the sound of thunder and this is a man who loves thunder.
He flies to the central tower and finds the place in ruins and Sersi in a weird intangible state.
Then Thor must have been thinking about the Invaders or something because he also blows up.
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Nahhh just kidding.
It's Blastaar. He's been blowing people up.
He's incorrigible.
Unsurprisingly for a guy designed by Jack Kirby, he looks incredibly like a Kirby character. I think he goes to the same tailor as Darkseid. And the same beard barber as Highfather.
Anyway, Blastaar being the answer of 'what happened to the missing Eternals' sure is something. Not very satisfying as an answer but maybe him getting his ass kicked will be cathartic.
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