#Fred Thursday

[sircolinmorgan]

"The captain I would have followed into Hell."

#endeavour #itv endeavour #endeavour itv #endeavouredit #endeavour morse #fred thursday #shaun evans #roger allam #perioddramaedit #will i ever not be completely insane about them? the answer is no #my gifs #endeavour1

[perioddramasource]

ENDEAVOUR (2012 - 2023)

#endeavour #itv endeavour #endeavour morse #shaun evans #fred thursday #roger allam #ours #*gifs #kraina #userrobin #usertreena #tuserhan #userhayf #tusereliza #endeavouredit #perioddramaedit #periodedit #weloveperioddrama #onlyperioddramas #periodedits

[terribleoldwhitemen]

endeavour - 802 / 903

#itv endeavour #fred thursday #endeavour morse #originals #gifs #made this days ago. just now remembering to post it #I'm sure I had meta to accompany this at one point but it's the brain scrample egg hours and it's simply not happening #anyway the thing is rather self-explanatory I should think.

[kitmarlowe]

#endeavour #itv endeavour #shaun evans #endeavour morse #roger allam #fred thursday #endeavour spoilers #gif #aaaahhh #shaun never got the recognition he deserved for this role

[galen-the-technomage]

beginnings and endings

#endeavour #itv endeavour #endeavour spoilers #endeavour morse #fred thursday #not entirely pleased with this but whatever #WEIRd to say his name #but i am still having so many feels #okay that's it for now #shall be watching the doco later #my gifs

[endeavourfiles]

#fred thursday #roger allam #thursday thursday #endeavour #endeavour morse #itv endeavour #Fred means business #so does Shaun’s back 😍 #shaun evans

[mywingsareonwheels]

I was just thinking that one thing I adore about the Endeavour fandom is that I don't think I've seen a single person in it who insults Fred Thursday's intelligence or fails to recognise his intellectual interests. Even people who don't like him (or at least judge him more harshly than I do)!

And in this we're following on from the show, which recognises that while Thursday lacks class and educational privilege[1], he has not only some considerable astuteness as a detective and a lot of worldly-wisdom, but has taught himself Italian, enjoys a lot of poetry, can identify various trees that almost certainly weren't around in Mile End when he was growing up, knows at least a little about opera etc.. And is, especially in the early seasons, always interested in learning more. As @morsesnotes very wisely observed in a recent post, poetry is part of what Morse and Thursday bond over! It's Strange who's the odd one out when it's the three of them, not Morse.

Thursday's own confidence in his intelligence I think is variable, but the show never questions it, and neither do we. :-)

I sometimes wish Endeavour had a larger fandom because it really is so good (even if very flawed in places) and deserves more attention. But then at other times I go... eurgh, if it did though, the opportunity for Fail would be so much worse. And I think that's one of the things we'd lose, because some of the less thoughtful fans would take one look at this middle-aged, working class ex-NCO with PTSD and sometimes spectacularly poor decision-making and go "he must be Morse's opposite" and ignore all of his intellectual curiosity and self-education. (And his reciting poetry at/with Morse in Colours which is one of my favourite moments ever. ;-) ) Right now I love that as far as I know the whole fandom Gets This about Fred. <3

(And with my late, beloved paternal grandparents having been working-class (rural rather than urban) and born in the same decade as Fred and also both having left school at 14 and both having a huge range of interests and being very into self-education (fiction, theology, natural history, geology, art...)... Yeah. This is part of why I love Fred so much, and part of why I love that he's allowed to be so smart and intellectually engaged. <3 )

[1] Given his generation and background, it's most probable he left school at 14, and certainly university would never have been an option.

#itv endeavour #fred thursday

[upthelagan]

Endeavour. Confection.

#endeavour #itv endeavour #endeavour S06E03 #confection #such a stunning scene that #so sad though #simon harrison #ronnie box #shaun evans #endeavour morse #roger allam #fred thursday #tv #actors #utl seen in 2023

[just-here-for-the-whump]

Endeavour 1x2 Fugue

#itv endeavour #endeavour morse #whump #exhaustion #fred thursday #blood #sweet caretaking #cared for #so adorable

[marosii]

Just Morse ‘pursuing lines of inquiry’

#the ball pit was my favorite to draw #love when he follows extremely random clues that make people think he’s insane #very blorbo of him #itv endeavour #endeavour morse #my art #art #fanart #digital art #marosii art #max debryn #peter jakes #jim strange #fred thursday

[sircolinmorgan]

Sir, don't. Show them who you are. This is who I am. No, it never has been. We hold the line, if you cross it now then there's no way back.

#this show is just 9 series of fred telling morse exactly who he is and morse refusing to accept it until it's too late #he has this unwavering misguided faith in fred and tries *so* hard to keep him on the right side of the line #but when he doesn't have morse around him fred crosses that line and we end up with 'i know thee not old man' #this show man #these characters #endeavour #itv endeavour #endeavour itv #endeavour morse #fred thursday #shaun evans #roger allam #my gifs #endeavour1

[mindhowyougo]

Thursday in Game

#itv endeavour #fred thursday #i just love his everything okay

[too-antigonish]

This is the Fred Thursday Endeavour prequel I dream about...

Sure 1960s Oxford had a lot to work with, but it’s got nothing on post-war London.

Picture it: The whole country is in the midst of social upheaval. Men are returning home after years away. They’re dealing with massive trauma and having difficulty readjusting to civilian life. Their families have spent years learning to live without them. The reunions don’t always go well. 

Constant shortages have led to thriving black markets and a rise in organized crime. A huge influx of working-age men leaves many unemployed and vulnerable to the worst temptations.

Neighborhoods, especially in the East End, are still littered with the rubble of the Blitz. Evidence of destruction is a daily fact of life and death is still a presence. Children playing in the ruins encounter unexploded ordnance on a tragically regular basis. 

Into all of this walks a young Fred Thursday....

As a soldier he saw brutal action in North Africa and worked with the partisans in Italy.  He had a passionate affair with a woman he now believes to be dead. The rest of his wartime service remains a mystery to us.

Now he’s back near where he grew up—one of three brothers in Mile End. Billy didn’t make it back from the war. Charlie is now running the family’s warehouse business—and dating some girl named Paulette.

He’s been reunited with his wife Win (he doesn’t tell her about the affair) and is just learning what it’s like to be a father to Joan. The three of them are living with Win’s parents over the ironmongers and it’s not easy rubbing along together, not with so many people in tight quarters.

Fred is trying readjust to civilian life, making the shift from soldier to the policeman he once was. The lines blur easily in the brutal world of the East End but Sergeant Vimes, his governor at Cable Street,  does his best to keep him on the straight and narrow.

Those are just the basics of Fred's story from canon! I look at it and ideas for episodes just start spinning out in my head. It would be such an amazing series!

And then...

Eventually Fred moves up, takes young Mickey Carter under his wing—and makes the mistake of going after Vic Kasper. When Carter gets himself killed and is then falsely accused of having been on the take, Fred has to get his family out. He takes Win, Joan, and now Sam, and leaves everything and everyone they’ve ever known. 

Oxford is a whole new world. The kids have never seen so much green. The house is bigger than they ever could have imagined. His new boss, DCS Crisp, seems nice enough...

Ahh! If I weren't horrible at imagining casting I'd already have a list!

And then I think, maybe the whole thing’s got a framing device. Maybe the older Thursday from Endeavour, from wherever he sits in exile, is writing this all down. He’s recording these stories of what it was like when he was a young copper.

I’d like to think that in the end he puts it all together to send to Endeavour (not Morse, but specifically Endeavour) as a sort of memorandum of understanding. He's telling him, "I saw what made you into you. Now I'm telling you: here's what made me into me."

Happy Thursday Thursday!

#itv endeavour #fred thursday #roger allam #endeavour morse #thursday thursday #just making things up

[terribleoldwhitemen]

a hand on the shoulder || overture - quartet - prelude

#itv endeavour #endeavour spoilers #endeavour morse #fred thursday #originals #gifs #chucks these into the ether.

[morsesnotes]

I think one of the reasons S7 rubs people the wrong way is that S6 Morse is written so sensitively (even with all his snark) and has such a pitiful vibe about him. Then in Oracle he's suddenly full of confidence and is off in Venice having a random fling with a beautiful Italian woman. He's ragging on the team and engaging in adultery. He's like S5 Morse ramped up to 100.

And it's like...how did that happen? Who is this guy? I remember when I first saw it, I was still new to Endeavour and only had S6 for context. My parents put it on and we were so confused, wondering if we'd missed an episode.

I think giving him that development was an interesting concept and made sense if you think about the unresolved tension between him and Thursday in S6, but there was too much of a jump between the two seasons. Usually the new season starts with everybody recovering from the previous finale. With this one starting on New Years Eve and then ending a year later with three episodes it felt frustrating missing out on a huge chunk of these people's lives. Especially since the joy of watching Endeavour is how it takes its time. Even though S8 and S9 were also three episodes they felt much better paced.

I'm not sure how they could've made a more natural transition though. Maybe the talented fanfic writers here might have some ideas?

#endeavour #itv endeavour #endeavour morse #fred thursday #thinking thoughts

[gjdraws]

a thousand years ago I tried to draw some Endeavour and *gestures vaguely* this happened

#itv endeavour #endeavour morse #apologies to bal and lauren and whoever else watches #fred thursday