#Glaciator 2 spoilers

[geekgirles]

Kagami to Félix: You're not very good at social interactions.

Also Kagami:

#kagami baby I love you #but you're one to talk #then again #you've never kidnapped anyon— #wait no #never mind #there was that time back in Glaciator 2 when you trapped Marinette in your car #miraculous ladybug #ml #mlb #ml spoilers #ml season 5 spoilers #ml season 5 #ml s5.19 #ml pretension #pretension #ml pretension spoilers #kagami tsuguri #félix fathom

[zaaaras]

marichat in love YESS but i’ll miss this dynamic sm

#rewatching glaciator 2 to watching elation like Live Slug Reaction #THEY’VE COME SO FAR 🫶🫶 #miraculous ladybug #miraculous #ml #ml spoilers #kinda i’m not really sure #marichat #ml s5 #glaciator 2 #marinette dupain cheng #chat noir

[adrinoir]

I don’t think Adrien is super oblivious

I wrote about Adrien not being oblivious of Marinette’s feelings before, but I think just as a whole, he’s not as oblivious as you may think. Let me break down why.

1. It’s never been some big revelation to him that Marinette is Ladybug - who he likes as more than a friend

Think of all the “what if” episodes: Chat Blanc, Oblivio, and Ephemeral.

Something that happens in all of these episodes is Adrien realizing Marinette is Ladybug and being so happy with them being the same person.

But notice how it isn’t some huge revelation to him. Like, he figures it out and is pretty much like “that makes sense. No wonder I love you.” He was never like “wow! I would’ve never guessed! I don’t know if I like Marinette like that.”

Those episodes aside, in Heroes’ Day Pt. 2, he accepts Marinette’s kiss and compliments her, calling her “their everyday Ladybug.” And, in Multiplication, he remembers the advice she had given him about confronting his father, and wastes no time calling her and telling her how special she is to him. It’s not even like Adrien told Plagg to shut up or defend himself when he said Adrien would be a fake if he thinks he doesn’t like Marinette romantically.

Adrien definitely seems well aware that he likes Marinette, but he’s in denial because he’s infatuated with Ladybug. Plus, he says the one time, “besides, there’s Luka.”

He doesn’t know how to juggle having feelings for two “different” girls (he’s never had a crush on anyone prior to), but it’s never been a big shock to him when he figures out they’re the same person and that he loves them both.

2. He won’t open up to his father

Gabriel is abusive…also the sky is blue.

It seems a lot of the time that Adrien isn’t aware of how abusive his father is, and lets him manipulate him. But, I think he’s got some idea of this, honestly. He’s caught onto more in comparison to season one.

The biggest sign was in Glaciator 2. When Gabriel says he’s been distant ever since Emilie’s passing but Adrien can talk to him if he needs to, he’s unfazed by the reason he’s distant, says, “if I needed to, father, I would…” and then walks away.

Adrien didn’t even want to talk to him, despite him offering. That says a lot right there.

Throughout every season, Gabriel doesn’t even bother to do things like eat dinner with him, take him to the movies, help him practice piano, etc. and it thoroughly disappoints Adrien.

Adrien also admits in Risk that his father is forcing him to be this “perfect” model but all he wants is to be his son. He doesn’t want to be a model. He just wants a good relationship with his father, and it’s a really good thing he realizes that.

The sad thing is that there’s a 99.9% chance not going to improve, considering he just created an AI version of Adrien, which he’ll be able to use to his advantage. Adrien realized something was very fucked up about that after he saw this version of himself.

3. He never claimed to love Kagami

Okay. So, Adrien definitely had a bit of an attraction to Kagami originally, I’m not saying he didn’t. However, he never openly says he loves her or even tries to woo her like does with Ladybug. Adrien very obviously shows his feelings through his actions and behavior - keep this in mind.

There’s probably Adrien salters who think he lead Kagami on, but the truth of the matter is that he really didn’t. He wanted to try to be with her, but he never admitted having feelings for her and he consistently showed discomfort while they were together.

Kagami caught onto this and saw the charm from Marinette he’s always carrying. She tried to make the relationship work, but she noticed problems (aside from just him lying to go run off on patrols), and dumped him for that. And Adrien didn’t try to fight her on that, so I feel like he knew he didn’t feel the same way and that the breakup needed to happen.

4. He keeps flirting with Ladybug despite her saying she likes someone else

Okay, okay. I’ve seen this being debated about in the fandom a lot. There’s people who think he’s being too pushy, to a point of assault. But, I don’t really feel that’s the case. Lemme explain.

Ladybug will sometimes flirt with him back. She’s kissed him a number of different times. Similar to him, she’s also in denial of having feelings for him and trying to sort out these romantic feelings she has for Cat Noir.

Cat Noir/Adrien definitely notices this seeing as how much he loves her, which is why he still flirts with her here and there. He sees there might still be a chance for him. Especially seeing how she’s kissed him a number of times, twice that he can’t even remember, he’s going insane trying to figure out how that happened in the first place.

I think he should cut back, which honestly he has since the first season. If Ladybug directly tells him to stop, he does. It’s just a matter of him thinking she might just feel the same, and the episodes rebooting him flirting and Ladybug having a different reaction every time. (She also doesn’t get super uncomfortable and incredibly mad the way she did when Felix tried to kiss her).

Conclusion

Adrien isn’t completely clueless and oblivious. That’s that.

#miraculous ladybug #tales of ladybug and cat noir #miraculers #miraculous #adrien agreste #chat noir #ladybug #ml season 4 #marinette dupain cheng #adrienette #ladynoir #ml season 1 #adrigami #ml season 5 spoilers #ml glaciator #ml glaciator 2 #ml oblivio #ml ephemeral #ml risk

[bvgxboo]

this episode single handedly changed the course of my life.

you all left but i stayed HERE.

#marinette dupain cheng #miraculous ladybug #adrien agreste #adrichat #love square #ladynoir #marichat #maribug #marinette #miraculous ladybug marichat #miraculous ladybug glaciator #miraculous ladybug spoilers #miraculous ladybug glaciator 2

[exhausted-pathetic-bitch]

im in love with these end cards~

《so simple yet they have a lot of meanings》

#mlbs5spoilers #mlbep2 #miraculous ladybug #glaciator 2 #multiplication spoilers #felix fathom #adrien agreste #chat noir #marinette dupain cheng #ladybug #lila rossi #gabriel agreste

[missjiru]

Mari: I need you to play my boyfriend who's not my boyfriend yet... Just... act like you're a little interested in me... Chat: ... Mari: I'm declaring my love to you, isn't it obvious? Chat: Let's just say it could be more obvious... Mari: Alright, since you're so good at this, show me how it's done...

#t42art #artists on tumblr #my art #fanart #wip #miraculous ladybug #ml #ml spoilers #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #ladybug #chat noir #marichat #love square #dear buttercup #glaciator 2 #twilight in paris #miracle romance

[miraculouslycool]

this is like the third?? fourth time this grown man is coming after these children for not making his fanfiction canon??? bitch go back to scooping icecreams that are worse at being color-coordinated than gabriel agreste

#andre the ice cream fraud #ml spoilers #elation #glaciator #glaciator 2

[manikas-whims]

Thinking about Glaciator from Miraculous 🤔

The ice-cream guy was just a local shipper who lost it because his OTP (LadyNoir) didn't become canon 😂

#miraculous ladybug and chat noir #ladybug #chat noir #ladynoir #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #miraculous tales of ladybug and chat noir #mlb spoilers #marichat #adrienette #ladrien #miraculous ladybug #ml glaciator #glaciator 2

[yerimoonlight]

Glaciator 3 dropped and so did my jaw because WOW

#personal #ml s5 spoilers #ml spoilers #what even is this ep called #ml exaltation #exaltation spoilers #exaltation #elation spoilers #ml elation #elation #yes I did just call this ep glaciator 3 #miraculous ladybug #I literally was not expecting this ep?? #I feel like the past 2-3 days I’ve been catching up on eps back to back after work so I was not prepared #THE MARICHAT DROP OF THE CENTURY?! #STAR CROSSED LOVERS AND MONASS/GABRUN KNOWS?! #marichat #not me saying I was ready for marichat a couple of days ago bc I really was not ready😳💀 #the buildup to the kiss?! #y’all I literally was like 1) I have seen this scene play out before but I can’t remember from what show/movie #and 2) they really said if marichat is gonna finally have their moment it’s gonna be the best of the best #I was eating dinner dropping my fork covering my mouth #this season has me as expressive as season 2/3 did

[zaaaras]

andre the ice cream man when he finds out about aromantic people

#you know this newfound bashing… i am okay with it #he is a liittttle weird Sometimes #a lot weird sometimes #miraculous ladybug #miraculous #ml #ml spoilers #ml s5 #andre the ice cream man #glaciator 2 #elation spoilers #ml s5 spoilers

[hufflepotato-18]

i just remembered that in ‘glaciator 2’, marinette tells chat noir she has a crush on someone. is that going to deter adrien from going after marinette?? is it going to cause angst???

#miraculous ladybug #ml season 4 #ml glaciator 2 #ml season 5 #ml spoilers #mlb #marichat #marinette dupain cheng #chat noir #adrien agreste #OH MY GOD #THE POSSIBILITIES

[bvgxboo]

first post back on tumblr in the fandom and hOly SHIT.

LETS TALK ABOUT MARICHAT !!!!

season 5 as a whole has been pretty insane and the underground marichat shippers have been basically recognized as the new kings of the fandom but id like to take a step back and reflect on HOW we got to where we are and the significant turning points in their relationship. marichat is essentially the besties of the love square, their most true versions of themselves with adrien being able to be himself with no restraint of the rings that hold his amok, nor his responsibilities. we’ve seen in the past hes been afraid to be his true self (ie. in lies when he acted as cat noir and said “what if this is the real me to which kagami said no” ultimately showing even around close friends and at the time his girlfriend, had to hide parts of himself).

looking at marinette, we’ve seen shes afraid to express her TRUE self to really anyone. she hides parts of herself behind obsession of love or fear, but cat noir is the ine shes been MOST vulnerable with aside from alya whos the only one who knows shes ladybug.

now this is where episodes start to come in, im probably the biggest advocate for the first glaciator episode as its if not the most memorable in season 2 in terms of REAL development for the ships as well as characters individually with adrichat accepting that his love can be extreme and marinette knowing she has someone to confide in, learning more about the REAL adrien all be it even if she has no real clue. perfect example of this being the balcony scene.

even though adrien is the one suffering, the one hurting, he puts his heartbreak aside AS SOON as he hears marinette has been hurt. this all quickly gets brought to the side once the ladynoir of the episode comes in and the moon scene happens but this scene is exTREMELY significant as the only other time we’d seen marichat interact was in gamer in the same season and evillustrator in season 1, their first interaction really only taking place because ladynoir had been on the back burner.

to breakdown further id also like to point out tikkis reaction to cat noir being vulnerable to marinette saying such things as “i’ve never seen the sensitive side of cat noir before, theres a lot to learn about him” to which marinette, all be it confusingly, agrees. from this it shows that while marinette is bewildered by how enamoured cat noir TRULY is to ladybug, she pity’s him and wants to comfort that sadness even going as far as to accepting the rose he gives her at the end of the episode.

moving on from here, we go to glaciator 2. this episode is really interesting because from current events brought up in season 5, we now know adrichat was questioning his feelings for maribug in this episode. the confession scene at the wnd after their talk at the movies is the biggest kicker for me here because he not only caught onto the fact marinette was overwhelmed and decided to take her somewhere to clear her head but to ALSO work on it again with her with further encouragement. he constantly is attentive to marinettes feelings whether shes ladybug or not and to me, that says a lot about what will become of them as a fully canon relationship.

his eyes says it all. NEED I SAY MORE.

as a closing argument to all of this id just like to say, marichat has come a REALLY long way from season 1 being the only ship to have no attraction to each other whatsoever to becoming the supreme ruler of season 5 and what ultimately pulls the two together beautifully. i’ve seen a lot of hate for this ship come down throughout the years and of course this isnt the first rodeo, but to see their development come so far has been beautiful.

#miraculous ladybug #marichat #maribug #adrichat #adrien agreste #marinette dupain cheng #marinette #maricat #glaciator 2 #ml glaciator 2 #mlb fandom #mlb season 4 #mlb spoilers #mlb season 5 spoilers

[wield-the-mighty-pen]

Marichat is the only side of the lovesquare who has actually shared an umbrella in the rain. Despite Adrien and Marinette going under an umbrella together in “Mr. Pigeon 72″ they never actually venture into the downpour with the umbrella, marking an unfulfilled moment of vulnerability that rain so often represents in Miraculous. “Glaciator 2″ having the first fulfillment of this action, of this sharing of an umbrella in the rain, and by proxy vulnerability and emotional connection, foreshadows the eventual reversal of the lovesquare in season 5. A time where each side will learn to become vulnerable with each other and potentially start recognizing their feelings on the Marichat (the umbrella sharing) side of things. In this essay I will-

#maybe im just remembering wrong from like novermber #but i feel like nobody really talks about this #i mean yeah strikeback and risk were amazing #and will probably go down as the best ml finale to date #but the progress and lovesquare moments in glaciator 2 #just astound me every time #and the FACT that they shared the umbrella #its like the writers are toying with my heart #i just love these kiddos #yes i realize now that i wrote novermber instead of november #but im too lazy to fix it #glaciator 2 #season 4 spoilers #ml #mlb #miraculous #miraculous ladybug #love square #marichat #adrinette #ladynoir #ladrien #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #ladybug #chat noir

[tempests-bards-and-birds]

marinette dupain-cheng driving assorted vehicles the majority of which she probably shouldn’t be driving

#miraculous #ml #mlb #miraculous ladybug #miraculous tales of ladybug and chat noir #ml gifs #ml gif #mledit #ml edit #ml edits #marinette dupain cheng #ladybug #ml queen banana #ml s5 spoilers #ml season 5 #ml glaciator 2

[sparklingcubes]

When I first saw the Marichat kiss scene in Elation, I was very shocked. Like, not in a "omg finally they're in love with each other and kissed 😍" kind of way but more like, "holy shit I can't believe the writers just make Marichat, the Platonic side of the LS with capital P, where it consist of Marinette, who are obviously known to be down for Adrien, and Chat Noir, the biggest Ladybug simp ever, kissed lovingly and tenderly as if they have been wanting to do this since forever" kind of way.

#ml spoilers #marichat #ml elation #ml exaltation #maybe bcs I always see Marichat as a platonic comedic side #like how canon show the disaster brunch scene in Weredad #and the practice confession scene in Glaciator 2 #don't get me wrong the balcony scene in Glaciator was great but I love their feralness more in Glaciator 2 #i usually think Marichat as a romantic ship if it's post-reveal established relationship #but you know what #romantic Marichat and platonic Marichat are both good if they have done it well #be it post-reveal or pre-reveal #most ​fanon Marichat has lots of mischaracterization either about Marinette or Chat Noir #i trust canon way more when it comes to their dynamic and the characterizations #cubes talks