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rainhadaenerys · 2 years

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So apparently they made Rhaenyra say "dracarys" to her dragon. It's the first episode of the show and they're already disrespecting Dany. To make things more clear, this is the origin of the command "dracarys":

"I was not sleeping, ser. Come and watch." She took a chunk of salt pork out of the bowl in her lap and held it up for her dragons to see. All three of them eyed it hungrily. Rhaegal spread green wings and stirred the air, and Viserion's neck swayed back and forth like a long pale snake's as he followed the movement of her hand. "Drogon," Dany said softly, "dracarys." And she tossed the pork in the air.

Drogon moved quicker than a striking cobra. Flame roared from his mouth, orange and scarlet and black, searing the meat before it began to fall. As his sharp black teeth snapped shut around it, Rhaegal's head darted close, as if to steal the prize from his brother's jaws, but Drogon swallowed and screamed, and the smaller green dragon could only hiss in frustration.

"Stop that, Rhaegal," Dany said in annoyance, giving his head a swat. "You had the last one. I'll have no greedy dragons." She smiled at Ser Jorah. "I won't need to char their meat over a brazier any longer."

"So I see. Dracarys?"

All three dragons turned their heads at the sound of that word, and Viserion let loose with a blast of pale gold flame that made Ser Jorah take a hasty step backward. Dany giggled. "Be careful with that word, ser, or they're like to singe your beard off. It means 'dragonfire' in High Valyrian. I wanted to choose a command that no one was like to utter by chance." - Daenerys I ASOS

Dracarys is not a word that every Targaryen used to command their dragons. It was a word specifically chosen by Daenerys to train her dragons, because it's not a word that it's likely to be said by people in their daily lives (people only really speak bastard Valyrian in their daily lives, not High Valyrian), so her dragons won't be breathing fire every time a stranger says something. It's also not some magic word that makes dragons in general breathe fire: Dany has to train the dragons herself to make them respond to the word. So it's a word that shows Dany's intelligence and resourcefulness when training her dragons, it's something that she came up with herself, despite the fact that she had no knowledge of how to train a dragon, it's not something anyone has taught her.

No other Targaryen has used dracarys. It's a word that Daenerys herself chose, it's a way to train dragons that Dany came up with. Making Rhaenyra say it cheapens it, both because it takes away the fact that using dracarys was something Dany came up with, and also because it makes it look like dracarys is just some magic word that makes dragons breathe fire, which takes away from the hard work that Dany must have had to train her dragons to respond and breath fire when they heard the word.

#daenerys targaryen #asoiaf meta #got meta #books vs show #my meta #anti got #anti hotd #this show barely started and i already have things to complain ugh

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witchthewriter · 4 months

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who do u think is faster? meleys or quicksilver?

Oooh I love these types of questions!

Before fulling answering (because even I don't know straight off the bat) -

Neither were forced into the Dragonpit; meaning they had freedom, fresh air, room to grow and food to hunt when they pleased. If one had been in the dragonpit longer than the other, then the scales definitely wouldn't be balanced.

Although Quicksilver was always a bit of a small dragon, her size gave her great benefits. Sometimes being quicker is better as you're a smaller target.

However, Meleys does hold the title of fastest dragon (in her prime) in Westeros.

Ultimately, I think it comes down to the rider. Who is the most skilled? Who is bonded with their dragon so well that they can maneuver as one?

The answer has to be Meleys. Her riders were always fierce and committed.

With a rider who upheld the title of dragon rider with ferocious responsibility, Quicksilver would easily be my answer. But she never got the chance to be with someone for a long time.

If anyone has other opinions, I'd be happy to hear them!

#quicksilver vs meleys #dragon dictionary #witchthewriter #headcanons #dragons #got #asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #meleys #meleys the red queen #quicksilver #quicksilver dragon #house of the dragon #hotd #dragon directory #house targaryen #house velaryon #dragon riders

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hotcupofdragons · 1 year

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Elliot Grihault talking about his initial reaction when first reading about Luke’s death!

#house of the dragon #elliot grihault #Harry Collett #game of thrones #lucerys velaryon #Jacaerys Velaryon #aemond targaryen #Ewan Mitchell #aemond vs lucerys #ASoIaF #A Song of Ice and Fire #got #hotd

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zae5 · 9 months

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Bracken | Blackwood

#house of the dragon #asoiaf #fire and blood #house blackwood #house bracken #blackwood vs bracken #outfit aesthetic #got house aesthetic

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adaptationsvs-polls · 9 days

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Which version of this do you prefer?

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marsconer · 1 month

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chasingthedragons · 1 year

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The Black Council

THE QUEEN & THE ROYAL FAMILY

ALLIES

HOUSE VELARYON of Driftmark [Lord Corlys Velaryon]

HOUSE CELTIGAR of Claw Isle [Lord Bartimos Celtigar]

HOUSE STAUNTON of Rook’s Rest [Lord Simon Staunton]

HOUSE DARKLYN of Duskendale [Ser Steffon Darklyn]

HOUSE MASSEY of Stonedance [Lady Ellinda Massey] [Lord Gormon Massey, mentioned]

HOUSE BAR EMMON of Sharp Point [mentioned]

QUEENSGUARD [Ser Steffon Darklyn, Ser Lorent Marbrand & Ser Erryk Cargyll]

MAESTER GERARDYS

DRAGONS

CARAXES SYRAX MELEYS VERMAX ARRAX TYRAXES MOONDANCER

WAR TABLE

from north to south | at the tip we found CLAW ISLAND home of HOUSE CELTIGAR [one of the three houses that came to WESTEROS escaping the curse of VALYRIA.] | on land and among the hills we find ROOK'S REST, seat of HOUSE STAUNTON. | In the waters of the NARROW SEA we find the island of DRAGONSTONE, ancestral home of HOUSE TARGARYEN in WESTEROS and base of operations of THE BLACKS. | Next to DRAGONSTONE we have the island of DRIFTMARK [with the castles of DRIFTMARK and the seat of HOUSE VELARYON, HIGH TIDE.] | On the coast of BLACKWATER BAY, northwest of KING'S LANDING we find the city of DUSKENDALE ruled by HOUSE DARKLYN. | across the KINGSWOOD and at the tip of MASSEY'S HOOK peninsula, just below THE GULLET is SHARP POINT home of HOUSE BAR EMMON and a little further south we find STONEDANCE seat of HOUSE MASSEY.

STRATEGY

The army of THE BLACKS and their allies is abysmally inferior to THE GREEN forces, unable to match even the HOUSE HIGHTOWER. The strategies proposed by the Queen's allies included the use of dragons to take the capital, KING'S LANDING, an idea discarded by Queen Rhaenyra as the civilian casualties would be too great.

It is then that Lord Corlys Velaryon [Lord of DRIFTMARK] proposes a different strategy, after six years of war the Velaryon fleet finally took full control of the STEPSTONES, securing one of the most important sea trade routes not only for WESTEROS but also for the FREE CITIES of ESSOS. Lord Corlys' plan is to make a sea blockade of KING'S LANDING, blocking not only the STEPSTONES but also the BLACKWATER BAY, the only sea entrance to the capital.

In addition to this, the Prince Consort Daemon proposes to cut the roads on the north side that reach the capital, seeking to ally with the great houses of that sector, which are; HOUSE TULLY of RIVERRUN, HOUSE ARRYN of the EYRIE. To the south the HOUSE BARATHEON that surround the CROWNLANDS and the great army of the north with HOUSE STARK of WINTERFELL.

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eddieheart · 7 months

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This scene will forever be one of my favourites.

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There’s Arya, who since leaving home has done nothing but try to get back (Along the way going in a side quest to becoming an assassin.) and Brienne who seems to be the only other female fighter this side of the wall, having an absolute fanfiction moment.

Arya just gets to totally be herself, using the sword her brother gave her and showing off her new skills to some of the only people who’d truly be impressed. I just love it.

#Youtube #sansa and arya #arya stark #brienne of tarth #Arya vs brienne #fight scene #game of thrones #GoT #asoiaf #bamf Arya Stark #bamf Arya

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ilynpilled · 1 year

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i have only seen this drama from the periphery bc im not in servers but honestly if you are that uncomfortable with book purists this fandom is not for you lmao

#like if u dislike this phenomenon #which is ur right #i would keep out of most asoiaf circles #this is about the show braime vs book jb thing #like im sorry but since GoT is one of the biggest pieces of media of all time #and it butchered the canon characterization of like every character #people will likely die mad i fear #and want to keep the two separate #this is not a personal attack against you if u like the show thats fine but some pp #l r not interested in that interpretation at all #like this is not exclusive to us u see entire subreddits that ban any mention of the show #it is not like u r in an actual minority bros most people have not read these books #my discord password 💔💔 lost

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horizon-verizon · 10 months

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What do you think about tyrion?

This ask has been sitting in my inbox for MONTHS!

*Post is Edited*

As a character from the book, not the show? Beyond interesting, as he feels grimy and decadent while also desperate for power/gaining an advantage over others. Liked his sarcasm when it's not trained on less fortunate, lower classes people or women/misogynist. Endlessly entertaining, his pain is compelling when he's vulnerable, and his darkest moments are repulsive. Enhanced and inspired by that pain and need for love or respect, by his pain.

As a person, he and I wouldn't be friends nor would I like or trust him ten feet away from me. I more semi-pity him than admire him.

There is a post/set of reblogs starting with black swallowtail butterfly expressing their hatred for how GRRM wrote out Tysha and her rape, using it mostly to highlight Tyrion and Tyrion himself not really valuing Tysha enough to really ever work at knowing her or looking for her years after she was gang-raped and sent off who knows where. Regarding how Tysha haunts him, I think that he uses sex and power imbalances (layered over that) to self-affirm. Sex and the ways they handled their sexual partners and why it opens both characters' secrets to their own detriment. They both think that they have much more control over those partners than they did or overestimate their own vulnerabilities and weaknesses or inattention to their partners' changing emotions and feelings regarding them, or what elements their partners are exposed to that would turn against them. Like Cersei, who loved/was obsessed with Rhaegar and being his wife, Tyrion is envious and in awe of the Targaryens and their primacy, their freedom of practice, etc. Again, because he has always felt stunted of freedom and love since childhood. Sex and emotion, the intimacy and exchange made within that dynamic, is as much a motivation or weakness for Tyrion as it is for Cersei. While Cersei uses sex and men's desire for her to gain their supposed loyalties and resources--sometimes giving up her sexual agency for her children--and (with Taena) perform "masculine" power, Tyrion uses sex to act at being vulnerable & deny his monstrousness without it turning into dangerous vulnerability.

While Tyrion is far more capable of critical thinking and willing to use it (than Cersei), I think that, much like Cersei, Tyrion depends on his class to offset the societal and family aspersion/indifference against him, wants his family's respect and affection, and with each flout of his importance based on his dwarfism from those he finds attractive (and not just because they are attractive physically but the allure of the access to power [Sansa] elsewhere or to his ego alone [Shae]). Like Cersei thinking that she has Tywin's intelligence as well as his ruthlessness, Tyrion thinks that he has more emotional control than he actually has. Control and mastery over his emotions could help him see the outcomes of some strategies or some people's behaviors to anticipate before making a move.

Both he and Cersei aren't that self-aware and use the external perceptions of them and the need to control them to make excuses for themselves often. This also leads them to not understand themselves in relation to others outside of Tywin and Jaime/the Lannisters-as-made/supported-by-Tywin.

Meanwhile, he has Bronn kill Symon Silver Tongue (a blackmailing singer) and had little reaction to news of his corpse put into a "bowl of brown", which implies forced cannibalism on unsuspecting consumers. Which is very evil, and unnecessary, tactically but speaks to his need to have control over the "smallest" of things that affect the human body itself. (Perhaps the transformation from man to food itself satisfies Tyrion's need to transform himself and change out of the undesirable body he was born with.)

He believed that he surpassed Tywin's cunning and competence, but Tyrion--before killing Tywin -- was still stuck in the Lannister knot of trying to please and gain the love/respect of their father who defined and compressed their sense of worthiness to his own expectations and directions. And he's actually very much like Tywin and Cersei in his disinterest in anything but image or power, over the smallfolk's long-term needs for those themselves. Like most aristocrats. The problem is, again, he thinks he's better than Cersei as a person, that he is inherently better because he is smarter. It partially feeds into and leads to his peculiar blindness to the most obvious things about what makes people outside of his family truly tick, making him think he can go without considering that.

Femicide and intimate partner violence: Shae. An indication of his losing himself in that Lannister-loveless-knot, and we're left off not knowing whether Tyrion could come back from that (as the text encourages us to feel). Personally, once he killed Shae, I thought him irredeemable.

Killing Twyin? Don't care about that, even with kinslaying considered more heinous than killing a woman/a sex worker/a mistress in Westeros. Tywin was one of Tyrion's demons and though patricide is particularly...hard to get through without looking at the actor without some sort of side-eye, I think when one continuously harms their child they open up a slew of consequences they've made for themselves, and they are the ones to scrape and whittle down that bond in the first place.

No, killing your dad isn't "right"...neither is it to force a 13 year old child watch as a group of men rape someone they cared for and force her away from them, make that child feel like they are a blight but then steal the glory of their adulthood accomplishments...etc.

Going back to Shae, even with her betraying him:

(I forget, so anyone could correct me on this) We don't know what pushed Shae to betray Tyrion, but their relationship has never been truly close nor brought into a certain understanding of two people who thought themselves equals, whatever that could have become in a relationship like theirs. From the get-go, Shae seemed more into Tyrion for the protection, money, and being close to the court for exploration and a bit of excitement. Yet Tyrion kinda fools himself into thinking there was a love/intimacy that bonded them while treating her as a more sexual companion who makes him feel good than a true partner. What's interesting about Tyrion is that In that sense, Shae treated him as the "the deal" between them always was -- a means to an end.

*EDIT* Shae had been bouncing from one place Tyrion hid/lead her in KL to another to keep her from Cersei's hands. At one point, she was going to land in them or be killed, yet Tyrion refused to let her go. So it's likely she went to Tywin to really get away from danger, as Cersei wouldn't seek to mess with the very man she is always been both scared of and desperate to "please". *END OF EDIT

(if one argued she was forced) Especially when she's up against someone like Tywin Lannister, who could have had her out and degraded like Tysha (which Tyrion is aware of, so ironically he's keeping her in the same space as the man who destroyed his first love as well as his own sister, and "protecting" her poorly). While past the Westerosi age of majority AND at the age of consent for U.S. society, Shae is also much younger than Tyrion, and even younger than Tywin. With either man, Shae didn't seem to stand much of a chance, and Tyrion took her betrayal as JUST a personal affront, which while I get to a certain extent, I see is also solipsistic.

his killing her was not about justice, but the precursor to the revenge that he plans against every single person who did him wrong (and with how he handled Symon, there's reason to believe that he wouldn't discriminate about who he hurts or kills to get this end...similar to Lady Stoneheart, except scarier to me since Tyrion is trying to utterly destroy even Jaime, who though acted badly by keeping the Tysha 's feelings for Tyrion secret and thus is partially responsible for Tyrion's misery, was also the only one to ever look out for him or try...that shows a particular hypocritical blind anger at the entire world that spells disaster)

*EDIT #1* Going a little back to the element of us not knowing if he will "come back" from him killing his father/Shae, the answer for me is no and unlikely. Because him killing his father slices through the Lannister "knot": the biggest motivation for why Tyrion has always done what he's done, fatherly love, familial regard and respect, power through that acknowledgment, acknowledgment from society THROUGH becoming something like this father which had brought them the prosperity and prestige the Lannisters enjoyed...seeing as the Lannisters became the way they became thru Tywin's actions and connections. Tywin himself, they all learned, only gave them some sort of attention or regard when he felt they would be useful for politics and their house's further aggrandizement. Which is itself only possible through wealth, a great (by skill or fuel or size) army, connections, self-supply through agricultural resources, etc. You know, the feudal way.

Despite his thinking, Tyrion technically doesn't emotionally need his family, while he very much desires their love, because it was never given in the first place. That lack of love, or at least respect, kept him an outsider, which does give him a separate perspective that made him capable of killing his father in the first place.

*END OF EDIT #1*

Despite him thinking he's handling Shae and her feelings well, he's not and actually is led by his need for her to love him, or to continue to act as if she does and bring him some assurance of companionship.

His last act in KL with his family: hurting Jaime by telling him that Cersei fucked many others, lying about killing Joffrey, and silently vowing to revenge himself against even Jaime along with Cersei. Kinslaying is an extreme taboo in Westeros and he'd be person non grata, vulnerable to anyone wishing him harm (another reason why he skips off to Essos). And he doesn't even have access to the Lannister reputation, protection, or wealth. He's on his own, he's burnt every bridge.

Tyrion is a case of the abused turned/turning into a monster. He is also the repackaged/"subverted" "Fool" (not Tarot) and Trickster capable of the greatest evils, selfish, capable of bringing about good (but for selfish or inadvertent ways/reasons), but far from that. He's eternally out of line, he's eternally hungry for "more", he enjoys himself and hates himself simultaneously, he's both blind and observant. Tyrion's a fucked up paradox.

As for show Tyrion, at surface level, a lot more genial and easier to root for. His wit and insecurity combined, plus the whitewashing, makes him a far more charming character than he is in the books, and again, I DO think book!him is charming in a very paradoxical bestial-blasé way.

But he still kills Shae in the show, so show!Tyrion still is not one of my favorites in terms of personhood. That will never be something he can be redeemed for in my eyes. The show allows him that grace where there is none, another point of detrimental whitewashing, especially in his assessment of Dany's supposed evil being seen as actually evil to the audience of seasons 7-8. And the show subsequently makes as if Shae deserved her death, that Tyrion had the right to kill her, that she owed herself to him and his subsequent "claim" over her, etc....because he fooled himself into thinking this was ever a real relationship/a relationship where he had all of the advantages and that his Tywin/Cersei wouldn't cross lines against him.

*EDIT #2* (8/27/23)

And to him, relationships are made up exactly of cold exchanges bc no one ever wanted him for him and they saw that his dwarfism was excuse enough to not try to love him or to drive in how unloveable he was. Because he has learned that he was a disgusting creature and love will likely always be out of his reach/denied to him, he is both pushed towards & seeks out what appear to be low-risk relationships. Aside from the fact that commonborn women are more within his reach than noble women as they are kept away from being virgins--ideally--on their wedding night and thus are very restricted i their overall interactions with any man/boy who aren't their fathers or brothers AND who like Sansa have probably dreamed of a handsome lord or a knight to be their husband, common-born women--esp. sex workers--do not require/cannot ask more of him than money or some protection. Because they do not invest in him emotionally or are unlikely to BUT also seek him out for protection and a living AND can never seemingly hurt him bc they lack the standing & genitals (aristocratic male privilege or just being of a house that could trouble the Lannnisters), he can theoretically slake his thirst for intimacy while maintaining his lover's ability to actually control him. Because he is their cash cow. However, his need for more love, real love, and a love for self eventually pushes him into looking to this person he designated as his new partner. She was his only means of intimacy, he could not feel like he'd get it anywhere else, so he convinced himself (despite his trie not to) that she eventually fell for him.

END of EDIT #2

In terms of character (adding to what's already said), he also made less sense bc of that whitewashing. Tamer and less angry than he should have been, a seemingly better person even though he was supposed to feel righteously dark retribution for Jaime, Tywin, Cersei, and all of King's Landing. Anyone he felt had wronged. Him. This emotion drives him to kill Shae, which gives that motivation seemingly more justice bc we barely get to see Shae's vulnerability & Tyriaomn's actual neglect of her as we should have seen in the books, too, so his progression after that made no sense to me.

ADDITIONALLY

A post by blankwhiteshield HERE really shows us the Lannister siblings and their relationship with love. This is what they conclude about Tyrion:

To Tyrion, love is unachievable, a right that he is not granted. The unlovable son that is viewed as broken from birth.

#tyrion lannister #a game of thrones #agot comment #agot characterization #tyrion lan's characterization #the Lannisters #character comparison #book vs tv comparisons #got comment #game of thrones 2015 #game of thrones #got #agot #asoiaf

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