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silversnowblossom · 2 years

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mdzs and qzgs crossover idea and notes

In this world, given that lineage isn’t as important, sect heirs would be appointed and become sect leader if the sect leader dies

inner and outer disciples - trainees, guild members are outer disciples, and the actual main line-up, the pro team, are the inner disciples - inner sect disciple - or maybe make it senior disciples instead

All the “old guard” (Sect Heirs) - Ye Xiu, Han Wenqing, Lin Jie, Wei Chen, Zhang Jiale, Sun Zheping, Lin Jingyan, Huang Shaotian (but not Yu Wenzhou) - are friends, know each other from night-hunts together back before the tension got really bad - think, like jl, lsz, ljy, and ozz’s group - this is the equivalent of them knowing each other in-game, back before the glory pro alliance

ee as wen sect - Tao Xuan gets greedy for even more land and power, despite ee already being the most powerful of the great sects

Great sect (before war): ee, tyranny, blue rain, tiny herb, hundred blossoms

After war: tyranny, blue rain, tiny herb, samsara

Blue Rain would be like the Lan sect - place of knowledge, etc etc except without the million rules. Everyone thinks Huang Shaotian’s going to be appointed sect heir, that he’s Wei Chen’s intended heir, so everyone is super surprised when it’s Wenzhou instead - Everyone knew Huang Shaotian was going to be the Sect Heir. Wei Chen hadn’t actually confirmed anything or made the official announcement, but it was only a matter of time, really.

Huang Shaotian is def their generation’s best/strongest swordsman. Ywz is prob better at talismans and formations - his golden core is slightly weaker than the other sect heir/leader’s, but he more than makes up for it w/his knowledge - think wwx after being resurrected w/mxy’s weak golden core

Huang Shaotian lived on the streets like wwx before Wei Chen took him in at around age 8-ish?

Inner disciples - Yu Wenzhou (Sect Heir and eventual Leader), Huang Shaotian (Head Disciple - eventual Sect Heir, though before ywz everyone expected him to become Wei Chen’s successor), Zheng Xuan, Yu Feng, Song Xiao, (eventually) Lu Hanwen (Huang Shaotian’s adopted kid/younger brother)

Fang Shijing is Acting Sect Leader, the way Lan Qiren was, after Wei Chen dies - he’s standing in until Yu Wenzhou eventually officially takes the position

So burning of the Blue Rain/attack on Blue rain - ee comes to burn blue rain, huang shaotian tries to stop them and get a leg broken like lwj; ywz is like lxc and flees with some of their great library’s priceless books. Just like how in canon, lxc escapes and lwj is captured when the Cloud Recesses is burned, ywz flees and huang shaotian is captured? Or maybe not. Maybe EE just leaves him behind with a broken leg. huang shaotian insists on staying at Blue Rain and not fleeing with ywz, not only to (try to) protect the sect but also to cover ywz’s retreat. ee (liu hao, maybe) kills Wei Chen through underhanded means during the sacking, and hst hasn’t spoken a word since (kind of like how he is in canon after wc leaves)

So, yeah, wei chen’s dead

Hst doesn’t speak, not until he’s reunited with Yu Wenzhou again

Or, idea 2 - this is before hst respects ywz, so he’s quiet bc wc’s dead, and then he and this no-name low-ranking (but surprisingly, startlingly intelligent) blue rain disciple defeat the Xuanwu of slaughter and so starts their close bond, because there’s nothing like taking down a legendary beast together to make friends

Huang Shaotian hasn’t spoken in fourteen days. Because—

Wei Chen’s dead, and Blue Rain has been burned to the ground. He’s been sent off along with nineteen of their disciples to EE’s indoctrination. And where before he might have burned in indignation at EE’s arrogance, now, all he feels is numb. He passes the days in the haze, only vaguely aware of the EE overseeing them—some arrogant brat named Liu-something—berating him (probably wanted to recoup some pride after the utter thrashing Huang Shaotian gave EE in the Discussion Conference a couple weeks back, the small part of him not frozen in grief thinks smugly).

Wei Chen had died for him; that hit had been intended for him, and even as the blade hurtled towards him and he wanted nothing more than to wipe the smirk off Liu Hao’s face—that EE bastard—he’d known he wouldn’t be able to dodge in time, not with the broken leg hampering his movements.

He’d braced himself for the pain, but— It never came.

(The sight of Wei Chen, bloodied and dying from taking a hit meant for him will be forever burned into his mind, he thinks.)

His fellow disciples are worried, he knows, has seen them shooting him concerned looks when they think he’s not watching. Even Zheng Xuan has approached him. And he’s the head disciple, should be there to rally and reassure them now that Wei Chen and Yu Wenzhou are gone, but— Every time he tries, the words get caught in his throat/lodge in his throat and not a sound escapes.

I think Liu Hao would take Wen Chao's place - so with the Xuanwu, the whole Mianmian situation still happens only Zhang Jiale and either ywz, wjx, or szp take the place of lwj and jzx and refuse to stand aside - ee uses this as excuse to attack hundred blossoms - 'they led the rebellion/incited resistance to our sect's authority' - so zjl feels guilty, like wwx in canon, even tho it's not his fault and szp would never blame him for the destruction of hundred blossoms the way Madame yu blamed wwx

Also, in Xuanwu cave - Huang Shaotian would be like canon wwx, capitalize on opportunity to turn tides by taking Liu Hao-as-Wen Chao hostage

And then like Yu Wenzhou would show up later - he’s running, has been for a while, with the books he’s safeguarding, taken from the library so that they wouldn’t be destroyed. It’s his duty, he knows, even as he worries about Huang Shaotian. He’s heard no news of Shaotian’s condition, on whether or not he was injured, not when he’s busy evading EE. And that’s when he runs into the disciples of the other sects, fleeing the battlefield that the indoctrination has become, and his blood goes cold when he hears that Shaotian’s still in the collapsed cave. With the Xuanwu of Slaughter.

He doesn’t think. The books are entrusted to him, Blue Rain’s knowledge and heritage and they should be his first priority, but— This is Shaotian. His best friend. His partner. And there is no way he won’t go back for him.

So he does. He gives the books to Zheng Xuan, who he knows he can trust; for all that he is lazy and unmotivated, he’s still a brilliant cultivator, and as loyal as they come besides. He and Shaotian have that in common, so loyal it hurts. And then he braves EE territory. For the first time since he fled the flames and Blue Rain, Yu Wenzhou unsheathes his sword and flies. He hadn’t dared to, before, hadn’t wanted to be caught by EE when he’d had the books to protect. Too conspicuous, he’d known, too easy to spot. But walking all the way to the cave the disciples had been in, all those li, would take far too long, and he doesn’t know how much time Shaotian has. “He was hurt,” Zheng Xuan had told him, a protective frustrated worry?anger lacing his voice, “but I don’t know how badly. I didn’t get a chance to see.”

He has to believe Shaotian’s still alive. Still he flies as fast as he can, fast enough to strain his golden core, though not fast enough to deplete it completely. He’s not that far gone; he knows better than to leave himself vulnerable, in the extremely likely chance that he runs into the Wen.

He’s lucky that the sky is cloudy, a storm brewing in the distance. The cover is a boon, and miraculously, he’s not spotted. Ye Xiu’s not organizing the patrols, then, he realizes, because if the Battle God had, there’s no way he wouldn’t have been caught by now, cloud cover or no. In the corner of his mind that’s not currently preoccupied by Shaotian, he wonders what this means for Ye Xiu’s relationship with his sect. He’s not blind; he’s noticed the burgeoning tension—they all had.

Hundred Blossoms would be like the Jiang Sect - EE shows up with an army, Hundred Blossoms is razed to the ground, all of its disciples killed - only 2 survivors: Zhang Jiale and Sun Zheping - szp loses his golden core (or has it weakened bc of qi deviation induced by sx), tho, and unlike wwx, he can’t exactly hide it or make up for it - so, like his hand injury forced him to retire and no longer be a pro player, here, he can no longer be a cultivator. he disappears, bc losing a golden core is traumatizing + he’s just dead weight now and doesn’t want to drag down zjl now that they’re in the middle of a War

Zjl’s not jc, doesn’t burn and burn with hate and anger - he can’t single-handedly revive his sect - Hundred Blossoms is no longer one of the Major Cultivation Sects, are decimated by the burning. eventually zjl joins Tyranny and becomes one of Tyranny’s Four Heavenly Kings

Samsara was originally a minor sect, but they grew to prominence during the war, and would take hundred blossom’s place as a Major Sect

Bc honestly, the fact that Jiang Cheng was even able to revive his sect at all, nevermind making it remain a Great Sect, is nothing short of astounding. Sure, the war probably helped with the recruitment, but still. And anyway, zhang jiale’s not a leader the same way jiang cheng is

Zhang Jiale’s pretty much running on spite and revenge during the war, using the singular goal of taking EE down to distract himself from his grief and his feelings of abandonment from Sun Zheping leaving. And he’s damn good, earns himself a reputation and a name during the war. And he’s doing okay for a while, rebuilds Hundred Blossoms, but it’s never what it once was. All those generations of knowledge, of cultivation forms and traditions—lost. And he’s only twenty-four years old and running a sect by himself, all his friends dead or in other sects, and the only one’s left from the remnants of what Hundred Blossoms once was are Tang Hao and Zou Yuan and he can’t burden them with his troubles, they’re children, and the pressure keeps building and the burden grows ever-heavier, until the days comes where he just. Can’t do this anymore. It’s too much pressure, too much stress, and he’s never been meant to be sect leader, had always thought that he’d step down when Sun Zheping did, that they’d hand over the reins to the next Blossoms duo, and certainly not on his own—he’s always thought he’d have his partner by his side—they’d promised to always have each others backs—and he aches with the knowledge that Sun Zheping had never cared for him nearly as much as Zhang Jiale cared for him. He has a duty to his sect but—he’s too weak, it’s a burden he’s crumbling/crumpling under

zjl can use a sword, obvs, but he prefers the bow - is the best damn archer of their generation

kind of like Jin Ling, now that I think about it, and how he favors a bow but is obvs good with the sword too

Tang Hao and Zou Yuan survive the massacre, by sheer virtue of not being in the sect when it happened - though, like the Wen, EE ordered the sects not to night-hunt, even in their own territory (and so pretty much every disciple was at Hundred Blossoms when the attack came), Zou Yuan was out visiting his family and Tang Hao was sent w/him - because it’s dangerous to travel alone now, and Zhang Jiale wants them to travel in pairs, at least, to be safe - they’re actually on their way back when they hear what happened

Tang Hao is furious at Zhang Jiale (and, to a lesser extent, Sun Zheping) - not for causing the attack, the way Madame Yu blames Wei Wuxian, but for not rebuilding the sect afterwards - how could you abandon Hundred Blossoms? he wants to demand. His lips twist into a sneer. Coward. — for leaving them behind and joining Tyranny

Tyranny is like Nie sect - militaristic, have been preparing for war against ee for ages. Zhang Xinjie is like Meng Yao, the ultra-capable deputy/administrator. Only, of course, w/out the whole “bastard-child” and “backstabbing” thing. zxj is as capable as meng yao, but minus the huge ambition - he’s content to remain in tyranny under hwq

hwq as nie mingjue - both super powerful and strong - the “head general” of the war/campaign

su mucheng and ye xiu as wen ning and wen qing - only, of course, ye xiu is a powerful cultivator in his own right - battle/war god - plus, they both clearly defect early on, tired of ee’s posturing and bullshit and arrogance. this is not the sect they once knew. muqiu wouldn’t want them to stay and let ee continue to commit their atrocities

“We’re leaving, Ye-ge,” Su Mucheng says, resolute. “I know you love Excellent Era, but this is not the sect we once knew.”

She expects resistance, protest, because EE is where it all began, is what Muqiu died for, and the sect holds Ye Xiu’s loyalty fast, but—

Ye Xiu doesn’t. Dips his head, and says softly, “I know.”

They leave the sect that night.

They don’t tell Tao Xuan, because he would try to stop them. Not that he could have, not when Ye Xiu’s Head Disciple and the best cultivator in the sect, but if he set the rest of the cultivators on them, it would wear Ye Xiu down. And, neither of them want to leave with the broken and injured remains of those they were once loyal to lying behind them. There’s time to fight EE later; now, a quiet exit is infinitely preferable.

Or maybe instead, Tao Xuan still kicks out Ye Xiu - “Ye Xiu disappears in the second year of the war” - ooh, a disappearance, and then han wenqing and su mucheng look for him, just like wwx’s three-month disappearance and how lwj and jc looked

And then when they find him again, he’s cultivating differently - figure out a way to transfer the whole unspecialized/Lord Grim thing - maybe it’s sort of like wwx’s demonic cultivation?

Maybe in this world, Ye Xiu’s losing credence/respect from EE because he keeps stepping in when they act against the other sects, because Ye Xiu’s a good person — for all that he bullies people shamelessly in glory, I highly doubt he’d do the same if it meant their deaths for real - because that’s not shamelessness, that’s cruelty - ex in the Indoctrination, Liu Hao’s in charge of them, like Wen Chao, but Ye Xiu keeps popping in, and stops him from going too far (i.e. branding anyone or other permanent injury)

ee falls, ofc, but it’s still a bloody war

hwq/yx is like lwj/wwx - ye xiu def is as oblivious as wei wuxian, plus just like wangxian, hanye has that whole everyone-thinks-they’re-rivals/enemies/hate-each-other thing going on

They meet when they’re both head disciples of their respective sects, at the discussion conference hosted by Excellent Era.

Han Wenqing fights using a saber, straightforward and blunt

only, no internment camps, or if they do happen, it’s not on the orders of any of the major sect leaders

Not rlly sure how Tiny Herb fits in here, but rest assured, they aren’t as corrupt as the Jin

After the war, the EE land is given to yx, and he creates a new sect - Happy

Huang Shaotian adopts Lu Hanwen, a war orphan, after the war - kind of like how lwj takes in sizhui, except ywz would be the wwx in this scenario - minus the whole ostracization and death thing, of course. lhw adores hst and absolutely always listens to ywz

Of the juniors - lu hanwen of blue rain (as lan jingyi maybe), gao yingjie + liu xiaobie + qiao yifan - yifan as zizhen, who’s not as powerful as the others but is still damn good - plus, they’re both very sweet; gao yingjie as sizhui, very polite, so that leaves liu xiaobie as jin ling - haughty but insecure

and yeah that's it. still working on the who yuhuang and blossoms duo threads. kind of got stuck halfway, so i figured i might as well post my au notes in case i never end up posting the actual story

#mdzs #qzgs #crossover #cultivation #ye xiu #han wenqing #huang shaotian #zhang jiale #yu wenzhou #sun zheping #qzgs characters in mdzs #story ideas #drabble

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