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agrippinaes · 9 months
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PERIOD DRAMA APPRECIATION WEEK 2023 day 3: favourite costume design harlots (2017-2019)
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damn-it-wynonna · 2 years
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"It was definitely an amazing thing having an all-female creative team. When the credits of Harlot were given to me, alarm bells started going off in my head. It was such an interesting, essential story and I was concerned as to who was going to tell it.” - Jessica Brown Findlay on BBC x
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meerawrites · 8 months
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Characters that are very me coded...
Characters that are my "so me" characters...
In no particular order — Lestat de Lioncourt (books, show and 1994 movie), Elphaba Thropp (books & musical), Kathani “Kate” Sharma (show), Merrick Mayfair (books), Rowan Mayfair (books and show, mostly books) and certainly not least Charlotte Wells.
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Tagged by: myself. Tagging: @covenofthearticulate, @aristobun & @dontbesylly (if you want) <3
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ladyannelister · 1 year
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I wonder what Nigel and Issac think of harlots the tv show?
OMG! You are brilliant, anon!!!
Harlots is one of my absolute favorite period drama tv series! There are so few 18th century-focused shows or characters that are distinctly queer -- but Harlots (Hulu) and Ghosts (CBS) really stand out when it comes to queer rep! And I absolutely love both for this reason!
To answer your question, I think they'd have different reactions. Nigel, being British just as the characters are in the Harlots TV series, he would be unfazed by the depictions of sex work in London (especially the queer sex workers, like those in the Molly houses). Whereas Isaac may be a little surprised by seeing such an open variety of sexualities featured in Harlots, but I think he's come to appreciate it.
As someone who studied early queer history in grad school, I can tell you that there's a fair amount of literature written about 18th and 19th century British queer history... but almost nothing written about queer sexuality in colonial America in the 18th century. Historians KNOW that queer persons existed during this time period, but no one has tried to write about it!
Anyways, I imagine this historical significance would play into Isaac and Nigel's varying impressions of Harlots.
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princelydisaster · 10 months
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not a fan of the “Charles and Charlotte are secretly biologically related” headcanon myself
but I indulge in the “Charles and Charlotte were kind of raised together at some point and Lydia would’ve dressed them in matching outfits and stuff” headcanon bc it’s cute and twisted and she’d eat that shit UP
I think Lydia probably suggested the name Charlotte anyway, and she would’ve been super nice to Margaret while she’s pregnant as a way to throw her off. Like calm before the storm.
And raising Charlotte kind of like her own in order to use her as leverage in case Margaret and Nancy were going against her.
Or all else fails, Margaret leaves the house with a little baby Charlotte who misses it, her “brother” but not quite, and old Miss Lydia comforting her.
(I do think Lydia is capable of love and genuinely loved or felt motherly affection for Charlotte… but that’s obviously not mutually exclusive with her desire to control everyone in her circle.)
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beatrice1010 · 1 year
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Charlotte Wells fanart.
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A little sketch of my favourite character, Charlotte Wells, from the 2017 British show “Harlots”.
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teawiththespleen · 1 year
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oh wow the mrs. harris actress played lydia quigley no wonder she looked so familiar
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isthisaportal · 29 days
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blackjedi552 · 11 months
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>watching a period drama set in an 18th century brothel
>scene of a constable raid on said brothel
>guy comes out of a room naked with a tricorne over his crotch, yells WHO DARES INTERFERE WITH AN ENGLISHMAN’S RIGHT TO GO WHORING
>i scream in delight at seeing arthur kirkland himself depicted so faithfully
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agrippinaes · 2 years
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Harriet Lennox + Costumes
requested by anonymous
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damn-it-wynonna · 2 years
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Lucy and Charlotte Wells Aesthetic
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meerawrites · 9 months
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So let's love fully and let's love loud and let's love now.
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ribbonsonmyghost · 6 days
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Harlots 2017-2019
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lady-of-the-spirit · 2 days
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I want to read a book (fiction, fantasy or historical if you've got it) where the main character(s) is a sex worker. Not in a way where they're tortured and have to be saved by their love interest or anything. Just. A character who's a sex worker the same way other characters are assassins, if that makes sense.
I've got a rec for the steampunk novel Karen Memory (main character plus all her friends are prostitutes in 19th century Steampunk Seattle, they're all very chill about it while also aware of their reality) and I've read the first 50~ pages, not super into it but I might give it a try again later and see how I feel then. If anyone else has recs lmk.
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princelydisaster · 8 months
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I have the inexorable urge to rant about a character I’m obsessed with that much of the fandom hates
Anyway fuck it.
I understand that a lot of people dislike Charles Quigley (for good reason) but I keep getting burned by finding fanfics and posts tagged with the character that only feature him to make fun of him or something
Honestly if you are writing a fanfic in the Harlots ‘verse and don’t want to include him, there is no shame in writing him out. (Or any other character for that matter.)
Have a throwaway line where someone says he went to visit a friend for a month or something.
That could also introduce things like more tension because Lydia might be more stressed / worried about having her precious baby mid 30s boy out of the house. Maybe she’s more prone to lashing out. Maybe she’s distracted and her rivals like Margaret get more bold about taking action against her.
It introduces a lot of interesting things that could work for a number of fanfic plots.
…Okay that’s it for people who don’t want to include him in fanfics, I’m gonna discuss things I think could be explored in fanfic below.
Note that because this show has a lot of interconnected characters I also talk a lot about Lydia, Emily, and Nancy for some reason.
TW: discussions of abusive relationships, incest, sex trafficking, kidnapping, murder (stuff that’s in the show)
I’ve seen someone say before that Charles is one of the few straight male characters on the show who’s important because of his part in fleshing out female characters via relationships.
I can see that. I think the nature of the show means that he as a man - a passive one at that - wouldn’t get a lot of screen time.
The point about him being important relationship wise is really interesting. Tbh, the early-mid season 1 interactions between Emily and Lydia remind me of the trope of a dad running to chase away his daughter’s boyfriend with a shotgun.
There’s that gender flipped part where women aren’t usually given as much sexual agency in tv/film etc, but also I like that it’s not played off as a kinda quirky “overprotective” parent thing, but the show recognizes how toxic this dynamic is.
You can argue in the gun toting dad example it’s sometimes bc the daughter is underage, but still, there’s often that undercurrent of a parent being threatened by their child getting a romantic partner and “replacing” them.
This is a big part of the Lydia and Charles relationship imo. I would characterize it as a nuanced depiction of an emotionally abusive relationship with elements of covert / emotional incest.
Emotionally abusive because she tends to manipulate him - isolate him from others, like potential partners.
When she feels he “replaced” her by choosing Emily - she immediately replaces him with Charlotte, a surrogate daughter.
Note: covert incest is not actual, literal incest. I do Not think their relationship has an actual sexual / romantic component to it. (but idk if you think that would be interesting to explore in a fanfic, go right ahead.)
I’m referring to unhealthy parent/child relationships where the child is expected to take on a role similar to the parent’s spouse. Such as where the parent expects the child to comfort them emotionally (even from a young age), or to prioritize their relationship over other forms of relationships, like friendships or dating other people.
I can definitely see that, especially with Lydia’s line to Rasselas in season 2 after he talks about losing his partner to an unknown disease. He says something like “I lost my precious boy”.
And she says, “so did I”.
This is due to Lydia being self centered as fuck, sure, but remember how she reacted to Charles nearly dying of an OD because of Emily? She was nowhere near this mopey about it.
(Ofc she had to make sure he was safe but once he was in stable condition she immediately struck.)
In that case at least she could react with violence and use Emily to boost her own standing.
In the case of Charles moving out to live with her, she’s kinda screwed, her old methods of dealing with a situation by attacking others to her own benefit don’t work.
It’s not really actionable. She can’t just go after Emily at the moment.
Lydia is finally stuck having to deal with the idea that her son - who she’s made part of her identity, especially if it means she can say she’s a Good Mother so she’s winning at Patriarchy - maybe chose someone else over her. Or doesn’t want to be close to her anymore.
Okay yeah I have talked about the relationships a lot but I could also talk about Charles himself.
Again, he’s a very passive character in a show about very active - or even aggressive - women.
I think his scenes in the show serve an important role of providing some levity or respite from the more intense drama (ie kidnapping, psychological torment, etc). It kinda breaks things up so you can fully digest how awful the other scenes are.
Not to say that he’s a totally innocent guy.
He’s still a shitty person, very self centered and privileged and willing to take advantage of others for his own desires.
I feel like sometimes I’m tipping the scales in his favor too much, as Charles is a morally grey character who likes to think he’s a good guy, but… it’s much easier for him to continue being awful or allow others to suffer for his benefit.
I think there’s a lot of interesting stuff at play with him, the ways Lydia’s parenting makes him see her as a role model and also a negative role model.
He starts off wanting to follow in her footsteps, to impress her. When Lydia starts intimidating Margaret for Emily coming to her, he backs up Lydia by remarking that Emily’s pretty bangable.
(Which is… kinda a stupid thing to add, but it still has an effect on Margaret, which is what they want.)
But once Charles starts to get into what it really means for Lydia to be a bawd - and him by extension - he doesn’t want to continue in the same way.
It’s not just, maybe he can keep Lydia from lashing out at the girls, or maybe if she does he can help them out by sneaking them food.
Once Emily nearly kills him via OD to escape, he doesn’t feel like going after her. Maybe he has a realization from that near death experience. Maybe he’s just too passive to want revenge. Maybe he knows that if he tried to get revenge Lydia would just take it to an eye for an eye levels of intense.
Maybe you could argue that he’s got some kind of guilt around what he did to Emily.
He seemed to almost have a moment of self awareness when (iirc) he told her he’d want to move out some place without Lydia, where she wouldn’t have to have sex with anyone… except him. Oops.
I think the relationship with Emily - because she’s a lot more pro active than he is, and she’s willing to talk back to him despite the power he has over her - forces him to realize his role in things.
And the development with the whole kidnapping people and giving them over to sadistic cultists to murder thing gets him firmly off Lydia’s side.
(Well, that and the line where iirc Nancy says something like “you can’t be on everyone’s side”.)
I think also there’s a lot that could be said about Nancy’s role in nudging him in the direction of a redemption arc in season. Maybe more like pushing him, idk.
Nancy is one of the only people who’s really patient enough to help Emily, even when she lashes out because she feels vulnerable.
She’s one of the first people who really treats Charles as an adult now that I think of it. Like even when Emily rocks the boat, she still plays into his childish side to keep his favor.
I think it’s largely because he’s the exact kind of guy Nancy is used to seeing - a rich dude who wants a dominant woman to take care of him and guide him - and the added history with his mother helps.
You could also argue that while Lydia fits patriarchal ideas of the ideal mother - being nurturing (unless you piss her off), delicate, feminine, lacking her own romance / sex life in lieu of caring for her child (usually) - Nancy is more like the reverse of all these traits, but she actually cares for and guides the people she takes under her wing.
When Emily lashes out at people she thinks are condescending to her, Lydia just doubles down on punishing her, but Nancy gives her the benefit of the doubt and offers her aid.
Was this post a Trojan horse for Nancy birch?? Maybe??
I think that the contrast is also interesting, with Nancy lacking all the conventionally feminine things that make Lydia appear to be a good person on the surface, but actually nurturing and wanting people to grow and providing good coping mechanisms and a shoulder to cry on. Often at the expense of herself.
(So basically Lydia is cloth mother and Nancy is wire mother? Yeah)
I realize I went way off the mark here but I think there’s a lot of potential in exploring the relationship between Charles and Nancy too.
Like he’s more used to seeing women who try to fit into social roles men place on them (whore, virgin, mother, crone etc archetypes) so seeing a goth butch lesbian who tells him to get his shit together… kinda breaks his brain.
It’s a really interesting dynamic I wish we saw more of.
There’s a lot more I could say, and maybe will say at a later date, but I’m getting kinda tired of writing this post. I tried to focus on the stuff that was touched on in canon + my own interpretation of it. Or different ones you could run with.
If you got this far… thank you for reading! I give you a sugar pig (whatever that is) for your efforts
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