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#Harvey is such a underrated character in Batman comics
somereaderinblue · 7 months
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So, recently I've been rereading the Batman Beyond tie-in comics & one of @theycallme-ook fics, which brought me back to a character that's criminally underrated: Julio "July" Jimenez.
(You can read the full story using this link. Sadly, it's his first & only appearance.)
I really wished the writers had utilized him more bcz good lord, he has so much potential as a character. We know Terry once mixed with the wrong crowd. However, Charlie's the only character from that part of Terry's past who made an appearance. Now, he was a pretty good antagonist (esp how he paralleled & subverted Bruce & Harvey's friendship) but at the end of it all, he's, again, the only character from that part of Terry's past that a wide audience got to see.
It would've been refreshing if July got to show up on the screen too bcz he would've been a perfect foil to Charlie in these 2 words.
Charlie -> greed July -> hope
July is one of the people Terry managed to successfully save. Whereas Charlie remained alone & went back to crime for personal gain; July was one of many who was pushed into it to support his family. However, unlike Charlie who manipulated & betrayed Terry's trust, when Terry offered July hope, he took it. He accepted Terry's hand & found himself standing on better ground with his own two feet.
If writers wanted to take it a step further, July could've been brought into the loop, having been inspired to pick up a Red Hood-esque mantle to help other ppl in his place (or remain a family guy, that works too. Man has a wife & 3 kids after all). Maybe Melanie & Jack could've bumped into him after they left the Gang, sensing kindred spirits in each other.
(Maybe he, Jack & his wife could've become a throuple bcz god knows that guy deserves love & a chance at a decent family after what his bio one put him through but that's a rare asf ship for another post on another day.)
Anyways, yeah. Batman Beyond has an amazing cast but this is one side character that has sadly remained unrecognized. I hope this post can change that.
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twistedtummies2 · 4 months
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Year of the Bat - Honorable Mentions
Welcome to Year of the Bat! In memory of Kevin Conroy, Arleen Sorkin, and Richard Moll, I will be counting down my Top 31 Favorite Episodes of “Batman: The Animated Series” throughout this January Before we get to that, though, I decided to take today to present a few Honorable Mentions. These were Twelve Terrific Episodes that ALMOST made the Top 31, but didn’t quite cut it for me.
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A Bullet for Bullock.
One of the more unsung things the Animated Series did was bring the character of Harvey Bullock to the spotlight. Bullock is, in my opinion, one of the more underrated characters in Gotham City; he’s not exactly one that’s a household name, and only a few adaptations of comics utilize him to any great degree, if at all. The Animated Series was among them. In this episode – based on a comic of the same name – Bullock becomes the main character, as he is forced to get Batman’s help in order to find out who has been making frequent attempts on his life. The episode sort of riffs on the ideas of film noir, and rides a fine line between dark comedy and mystery thriller. Seeing Batman and Bullock – two constant rivals throughout the show – work together, however begrudgingly, is also quite interesting.
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2. Beware the Creeper.
The first episode to be mentioned from “The New Batman Adventures,” and another inspired by a comic. (In this case, the story is very, VERY loosely inspired by “The Last Ha-Ha,” from the Joker’s nine-part miniseries from the 1970s…yes, that was a thing.) “Beware the Creeper” gives us the origins of a new vigilante in Gotham City, the Creeper: a journalist named Jack Ryder, who goes completely insane after being thrown into a vat of chemicals by the Joker himself. Ryder – his skin dyed yellow and hair dyed green by the chemical bath – goes on a rampage of chaos and revenge, seeking to get back at the Clown Prince of Crime, while also becoming smitten with Harley Quinn. The episode starts off honestly pretty dark, but then goes into something that feels more like an episode of “Freakazoid” than your typical Batman adventure. (The fact he’s voiced by “Freakazoid” alumni, Jeff Bennett, probably isn’t a coincidence...although the fact Bennett would, himself, later play the Joker probably is.) It’s easily one of the funniest episodes of the entire series.
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3. Deep Freeze.
Ever wanted to see Batman battle Walt Disney? Well, tough luck, I don’t think that ever happened…but this episode KIND OF scratches that itch. “Deep Freeze” was the second appearance of Mr. Freeze, a villain who was truly revolutionized by the incarnation found in the Animated Series. While the stuff with Freeze is, of course, really fantastic – tapping into the gray areas of the character’s morality in a very interesting way – I personally find this more interesting because of the ACTUAL main villain of the story: Grant Walker, a corrupt theme park mogul. Walker is a very direct and obvious parody of Walt Disney himself: the character is an amalgamation of urban legends and rumors about Walt’s life (and even Disney’s death), with a philosophy to his villainy that is essentially a twisted and warped version of Walt’s own ideals. His evil lair is a straight-faced parody of Disneyland! Being the Disney fanboy I am (and also being someone who will concede that, for as great a man as he was, the real Walt was not exactly a flawless person), it’s really cool to see a character like that in a Batman cartoon, and spot all the references and homages. Even if you don’t get all of it, Walker is just a great villain, and makes a fantastic foil for both Batman AND Mr. Freeze. I feel this episode often gets overlooked, but it’s definitely one worth checking out.
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4. Double Talk.
This was the final episode to feature two of my favorite, more underrated villains from the Caped Crusader’s Rogues Gallery, the Ventriloquist and Scarface. While I will come right out and say their designs in “The New Batman Adventures” are a bit…odd (which, to be fair, permeates many of the redesigns here), the actual story is so good, it almost doesn’t matter. For those who don’t know, the Ventriloquist – Arnold Wesker – is seemingly mild-manner gentleman whose dark alter ego, Scarface, is expressed through his ventriloquist dummy. In this story, Arnold is seemingly cured of his dual identity crisis, and tries to go back into society to live a normal life. However, after a while, he starts seeing Scarface everywhere, and hearing his voice when he shouldn’t. No longer sure what is real and what is not, Wesker struggles to find a way to escape his darker half once and for all. The twist of who’s behind all this, while admittedly somewhat expected, was still pretty neat, and seeing poor Arnold fight to keep his sanity and stay on the straight and narrow was naturally an engaging setup, and led to some creepy and intriguing visuals. The series did a lot of “Villain Reform Episodes,” which have all become famous in their own right. I personally think this is one of the best.
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5. Harley’s Holiday.
Another villain reform episode, and quite possibly the funniest of them all! This was the only appearance Harley Quinn had in the Animated Series where she did NOT get backup from other major villains, like the Joker or Poison Ivy. Her only solo starring role, and it’s definitely a memorable and delightfully zany experience. In the story, Harley is released from Arkham with a clean bill of health, but she very quickly grows frustrated with the real world and turns back to crime, her sanity slipping away once more. This culminates in her taking wealthy socialite, Veronica Vreeland – a friend of Bruce Wayne’s – on a wild joyride, which sees both of them pursued by not only Batman, but also a group of gangsters, Harvey Bullock, and an overzealous army commander IN A TANK. The episode is something of a superhero sitcom, and it’s got a lot of funny moments and lines. The only reason it isn’t in the Top 31 is that I sort of wish this one had been a two-parter. I feel it could have gone even further with both the comedy and Harley’s return to lunacy if it had been given more time. But for what we got, it’s still a fun story that shows why Harley is so well-loved today.
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6. Joker’s Millions.
So, fun fact: this episode is based on the very first Batman comic I ever read. Seriously. The first Batman story I ever read was the late Golden/early Silver Age comic, “Joker’s Millions,” in which the Clown Prince of Crime inherits an apparent fortune from a recently deceased gangster who was one of his rivals in crimedom. With all the money in the world at his fingertips, the Joker abandons crime in favor of just living the good life…but it eventually turns out that the gangster has pulled a joke on the Joker from beyond the grave. Most of the money, you see, is actually phony, and with so little of the real stuff now left to his name, the Joker has to figure out a way to gain more, or else he’ll be in trouble with the one foe even HE won’t dare take on head-to-head: the IRS. The episode follows this basic premise, but takes several new detours of its own that makes it really its own beast, such as bringing Harley into the mix and spending more time with the Joker as an apparent millionaire (most of the original comic focuses on the Joker’s attempts to salvage his reputation and fortune after realizing he’s been hoodwinked). I know a few people who feel this episode is almost out of character for the Joker, especially in light of so many recent versions that REALLY push the “who cares about money?” angle, but considering the Joker is canonically strapped for cash at the start of this story, and throughout Season 4 in general, I think it holds up. Plus, being based on a comic so near and dear to my heart definitely gives it a big boost.
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7. Judgment Day.
This is one of two episodes in the Honorable Mentions I feel particularly bad for not including in the main list. One of the final episodes of the show, “Judgment Day” focuses on a new, deadly vigilante who comes to Gotham, the Judge. The Judge is hellbent on destroying the lives of all of Gotham’s supercriminals, using much nastier means than Batman ever would. Several famous villains, including Penguin, Riddler, and Killer Croc are all severely injured and nearly killed by this new menace. Batman must figure out who is behind the Judge’s cloak and wig, and stop this deadly threat to his own rogues gallery; the irony abounds. I think part of the reason I don’t like this episode AS much as other people is simply because I’ve seen this idea done before and since in ways that I personally enjoyed more, with some new enemy coming to Gotham to threaten the criminals rather than the innocents. It was, however, interesting to see which specific villains got targeted and how, and the twist ending behind who is truly the Judge – widely considered one of the best twists in the entire series – definitely made the whole journey worthwhile.
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8. Mudslide.
This is often considered one of the more gut-wrenching episodes of the show…and since it involves Clayface, that’s saying quite a lot, since he honestly had a LOT of really messed-up and emotional stories throughout the series. In this one, Clayface’s nasty condition worsens, as he is finding it difficult to keep his clay-like form together in one piece. At best for him, this makes him sluggish and more vulnerable; however, the worse it gets, the more likely it is that Clayface will just melt away into a formless mass of goo, and thus perish. Desperate to regain his humanity, or at least keep himself alive, Clayface infiltrates a Wayne Enterprises Biomedical branch to try and find the cure he needs. I’ve always had mixed feelings about this episode, personally: on the one hand, it’s a very gripping story, and has some great visuals in it…but on the other hand, by virtue of the story focusing on a slower, less powerful, more pathetic Clayface, it feels like the character loses some of his punch. Then again, I suppose that WAS the point, and he still does manage to prove a threat in several necessary places. Of course, there’s one particular moment that’s ESPECIALLY notable, and if you’re a Clayface fan (I’m talking kinks here, so you know), you’ll know what it is…but I digress. Regardless, it’s still a great episode.
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9. Paging the Crime Doctor.
This episode introduces us to Matthew Thorne: the brother of nefarious gangster Rupert Thorne, who was a recurring antagonist throughout BTAS. Matthew is a former surgeon, who was disgraced due to his connections to his black sheep of a brother; he now works underground as "The Crime Doctor," the finest underground physician any hitman or thug with an injury can go to. Matthew hates the work, but he has no choice, he feels, other than to keep doing this, serving under his brother's thumb. When Rupert requires a very dangerous life-saving operation, Matthew is forced to turn to an old friend for help. The events that transpire reveal secrets about Bruce's family history he never expected, and the story ends on a surprisingly sweet and hearfelt note. This is a more down-to-Earth story than many others in the show, and the Crime Doctor is a great character: it's a pity that he never really showed up again, because between his own issues and his connections to Bruce and the Waynes' past, he could have made an amazing recurring figure in the series.
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10. Second Chance.
This episode is both a bit disturbing and yet also weirdly uplifting at the same time. It's an episode that provides a rare spot of hope and friendship in the dark world of Gotham City. The plot focuses on Harvey Dent - a.k.a. Two-Face - getting ready to undergo a surgery, which will hopefully give him the normal, handsome features he once had, and help his therapy along as he tries to become a sane and wholly good human being again. Bruce Wayne, of course, is eager to see this done, but Dick Grayson is less sure things will go the way Bruce hopes. Sure enough, Two-Face gets kidnapped from the hospital, and Batman and Robin both take separate paths to try and figure out what's really going on. The twist on who arranged Harvey's abduction is one of my favorites in the show, and a sign of what made Two-Face episodes so great. I love how the relationships between Bruce and Harvey AND Batman and Robin both get a lot of spotlight here, as both sides learn the value of never giving up hope and listening to those you trust. For all the dark moments in the show and the episode, that's a surprisingly heartwarming message.
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11. See No Evil.
Not all of the best episodes of “Batman: The Animated Series” focused on him facing his famous rogues or going on grand, epic adventures. Sometimes, smaller adventures with smaller enemies and smaller problems could be just as interesting. “See No Evil” is a great example of this. Inspired by the H.G. Wells classic “The Invisible Man,” Batman is brought into a case of a seemingly invisible jewel thief. It turns out the thief is a man called Ventrix, who has stolen some of an experimental material that renders him invisible. Why is he doing this? Well, Ventrix is the estranged father of a young girl named Kimberly, and he’s using the invisibility suit to give himself a way to see his daughter, masquerading as her “imaginary friend,” known as Mojo. The problem is that the material is not fully tested, and is steadily eating away at the man’s sanity. With both father and daughter in danger for different reasons, Batman must find a way to stop Ventrix and end the invisible man’s reign of terror. While the gimmick of invisibility makes for some great moments, it’s really the core struggle of the episode that makes this story so haunting and so powerful. Ventrix is probably one of the more complicated villains in the series, since all he really wants is to be with his daughter again. However, the methods he uses to try and be with her make him the antagonist, and his attitude ranges from borderline sweet and pitiful…to genuinely REALLY freaking creepy, which makes his exact intentions more ambiguous. It’s a story that blends real world problems and gray areas with a more fantastical side befitting of superhero fiction, and makes for one of the most unsettling and memorable one-off stories of the show.
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12. The Worry Men.
This episode mostly gets into the Honorable Mentions because of its villain of choice: Jervis Tetch, a.k.a. The Mad Hatter. Anybody who knows me knows that I love the Batman version of the Mad Hatter, and that I’ve always considered the version from B:TAS to be the very best imagining of that character. In “The Worry Men,” the Hatter decides to retire from crime…ironically, by committing crimes to fund said retirement. A bit backwards, but hey, they don’t call him the MAD Hatter for nothing, you know. Anyway, to achieve this, the Hatter kidnaps an African Shaman and has him create a bunch of “Worry Men” – small dolls that supposedly remove a person’s worries and help them have good dreams at night. In reality, the dolls are filled with the Hatter’s patented mind control technology, which causes anybody who gets one to deliver their most prized possessions to the madman’s henchmen. When Bruce Wayne gets victimized by accident as a result, he is put on the Hatter’s trail, which leads to probably one of the most wild showdowns of the program, in terms of imagery. I won’t go into details on what happens, but suffice it to say, it’s more than worth a watch. While by no means one of the most complex stories in the series – it’s a fairly straightforward action/adventure superhero tale – it’s one of the best animated and one of the most visually memorable. Top that off with the villain being a character I enjoy so much, and it’s more than worthy of an Honorable Mention. Tomorrow, the countdown begins with earnest with Number 31! I’ve decided that, for hints in this event, I’ll be providing quotes from each episode featured. With that said… Hint: “I am the cat who walks by herself.”
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Just wanted to say how refreshing it is to see someone being so welcoming to new Harvey Dent fans (via Misha Collins)! Thanks for being one of the cool ones ☺️
Ah! Well you're very welcome then! And thank you for the compliment!
I'm actually a relatively new fan of Harvey Dent myself. I'm pretty new to comic fandom in general, my brain deciding to hyperfixate on Harvey around the start of the new year. But the way I see it, Harvey is an underrated character. He's surprisingly not popular when it comes to the Batman fandom. He's been underutilized as a character even though I do love him dearly. So I say, the more fans, the merrier! The more fans that stick around, the more good content we can get out of it! So let's enjoy these things together!
You Misha stans seem to be nice folks! You've all been perfectly courteous in your time thus far in the Harvey space. So long as that continues, I see no reason to be anything but welcoming to you all!
And I'll be honest, most of my fellow Harvey enjoyers are pretty swell folks for the most part! They're wanting to be tentatively welcoming towards all of you as well! But there are less of us than you might expect, honestly. Harvey tends to be a second most liked character rather than an absolute favorite. So the influx of new fans is very much deserved in my book!
In any case, I'm all for sharing my love of Harvey! So Misha lovers are perfectly welcome here in my book. Just be careful not to step on the flowers while you're staying here!
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kevin-day-is-bi · 21 days
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Embarking on watching all the live action Batman movies pt 7: The Dark Knight Rises (2012):
I actually enjoyed this movie. The plot was comic accurate, I like how much focus is on WE and Gordon and Blake. It makes it feel much more like a Batman comic. I love Anne Hathaway's Catwoman, and I love that the movie starts with her mouthing off to Bruce. She has her own story line, her own motivations, and her own enemies, which I deeply appreciate.
I like the fact that they used Bane, cause he's underrated and fun, but by making him just be Some Guy, without any of the Venom serum, I feel like they didn't use him as much as they could have. Tom Hardy does a good job with what he's got, and they still manage to give him some super strength vibes, but it just didn't make him feel as convincingly un-deaftable. Also making him be connected to the League of Shadows was a weird choice, and it didn't work. This trilogy seems to run into the problem of not mixing their villains well, and just sort of grabbing whoever they think seems cool.
Bruce's little hissy fit/self imposed exile was fun and comic accurate. I know this sounds weird but I liked that they kidnapped him. He gets kidnapped a lot in the comics for so many reasons.
I enjoyed how much Harvey haunted the narrative. That was really neat, and having his name be said so much without him actually being here was a nice touch. There are a lot of characters that are basically their storylines/themes, and I feel like up until this point they haven't been focusing on that given the people they chose, but Harvey is one of those people and I thought that they showed that well this time.
Overall, it still reads less like a tale of hope and human perseverance and more like a white guy power fantasy, but it's better than the other two. I LOVED the Talia reveal! Petition to stop casting white people as al Ghuls, but the fact that she was in there at all was fantastic and bumped it up a whole point. The Robin hint was cute.
7/10
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11, 12, 13, 15!
11. So...Batman has been my favorite superhero since I was a small child, and I've always been equally obsessed with his villains. I think we can all agree Batman has the best Rogues Gallery, lol. When I saw The Batman in March, it reignited my Batman obsession.
I've always liked Harvey/Two Face and felt he was a very underrated character. I love his tragic nature. So many comics just depict him as a raving madman/cartoon villain with no depth (I'm a comic noob but I did my research!), and that really annoys me. I wanted to write Harvey the way I think he SHOULD be written- as the old saying goes, if you want something done right, do it yourself!
12. Ooooh, that's a hard one. I actually have 2 other muses on my sideblogs: Selina Kyle (from Batman Returns), and Dolores, Harvey's mother. But if I had to choose someone besides them? Maybe Mr. Freeze. I've always loved the tragic love story aspect of his character.
13. Harvey's favorite childhood book- and one he still loves today- don't tell him I told you that! is The Velveteen Rabbit, by Margery Williams.
15. Aww, thank you! ;_;
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ultrahpfan5blog · 2 years
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Retrospective Review - Batman: Gotham by Gaslight
If TDKR was a perfect example of how to adapt a story faithfully, and The Killing Joke is an example how not to adapt a story, Gotham by Gaslight is an example of how an adaptation can successfully change the source material for the sake making it more suitable for the movie format. In all honesty, Gotham by Gaslight is one of the most underrated Batman movies in animated form. Having rewatched it, it definitely is one of the more compelling and entertaining adaptations.
I will admit, I have never read the source material for this, so I don't have a huge requirement for faithfulness here. Per my understanding, there are a lot of changes and the movie adaptation is basically just taking the basic hook of the story, which is Batman vs Jack the Ripper in Victorian era Gotham. That is a very compelling hook to the movie and the movie very cleverly integrates people from Batman comics into the victorian era. We get characters like Poison Ivy, Selina Kyle, Harvey Dent, James Gordon, Hugo Strange, Leslie Thompkins, Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake etc... all with victorian era modifications. The film is also brave with its changes and isn't afraid to kill off characters who wouldn't die in modern Batman mythos and some of the changes are genuinely clever, like Dick, Jason, and Tim being street kids who are taken in by Alfred and Bruce as helpers, Selina Kyle being an actress who is handy with whip and sympathetic to strays, and Harvey Dent as a two faced attorney who is a bad friend to have for Bruce, and Leslie Thompkins being a nun who rescues helps orphans. The film's plot is genuinely intriguing and the final twist regarding Jack the Ripper's identity is something I didn't see coming. The fight scenes between Batman and Jack are exciting and the deaths are actually fairly bloody.
There aren't many issues I have with this film. I genuinely think its one of the best Batman animated movies out there and is constantly underlooked. The film doesn't resolve a few plot issues, like how Bruce would get his name cleared from being implicated as Jack the Ripper and there are a few characters that could have gotten a bit more depth that the movie affords. The film could have fleshed out the world of Victorian era Gotham a little bit more outside of just the clutter of characters we see, but I understand that there is a limitation to the length of these animated films.
The voice acting is excellent. Bruce Greenwood as Batman is always welcome because he has a sense of gravitas in the role which is my favorite apart from Conroy. Jennifer Carpenter as Selina Kyle is a highlight. Scott Patterson as Jim Gordon does really well as well. John Dimaggio as Bullock, Anthony Head as Alfred, Grey Griffith as Leslie among others, round up the cast. Sam Liu directs the film well. Its a well paced film that never feels overlong. I feel its in the upper echelon of Batman movies. An 8/10.
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titusbias · 4 years
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Sometimes I think I would've liked to see John Blake as Robin in more than Nolan's movies. Maybe in a comic, because if Terry got his miniseries of comics after Batman Beyond animated series, then it isn't impossible. Maybe it can't happen because Christopher Nolan didn't have that in mind when he created John Blake, but guys, we can't deny the character has potential.
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I mean, he found out by himself, like Tim, that Bruce was Batman. He admired the Dark Knight since he was a little kid and knowing that Bruce became what he became after the death of his parents, being John himself an orphan, motivated him. That's why he decided to be a policeman in the first place and then to make justice by his hands and quite the GCPD.
He believed in Bruce and everything that Batman represented even after the big scandal of Harvey Dent and bla bla bla, which for me is great. He went as far as to go to Wayne's manor to make Bruce wake up and face the world they were living. He's the one who pulled Bruce out of his shell after all those years.
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«I figured it out too late. You got to learn to hide the anger, practice smiling in a mirror.
It's like putting on a mask»
Genius line, btw.
They don't show us too much about his past, but he had a hard childhood. Moving to a foster home till his foster parents get frustrated and sent him to an orphanage, all of this after his mother died in a car accident and his father got shot. He felt angry, but never understood. And when he met Bruce Wayne for the first time, he knew he was like him. That he understood. And that he was Batman.
In the movie this is not explain, but John said:
«Right when I saw you, I knew who you really were. I'd seen that look on your face before.
It's the same one I taught myself»
So leaves it to your own interpretation, pretty much the same Nolan does with all his movies. But still a genius line.
John actually cares about the children of Gotham, being a volunteer in his former orphanage and trying to support them in any way possible. He even knows all the names of the orphans and is happy when he learns that Bruce transformed the manor to be the Martha and Thomas Wayne home for children.
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At first he is a loyal follower of the law, saying to Jim that he betrayed everything he stood for and showing himself disappointed with what Gordon did. But as the movie progresses, John begins to understand the point of view of the Commissioner, that sometimes you have to break the rules to catch the bad guys. The scene when he becomes aware that he just killed two people is underrated. Also, from the start of the film, we see that John is not exactly an obedient cop, often trying to do risky moves and things he considers necessary. He's reckless and his priorities are far away from the ones of his colleagues. He obeys his own rules.
So Blake leaves the GCPD the moment he realizes, in that bridge, that Batman is gone and Gotham has no one to protect it in a way the police couldn't. He takes the responsibility that Bruce left him.
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«You know what you said about structures becoming shackles?
You were right, and I can't take it, the injustice»
That's a character development I enjoyed. Wtf all his lines are genius
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John has a lot of things that makes me remember all the other Robins. These are a few I remember.
He's an orphan, like basically half the batfam.
John knew Batman's secret identity from the beginning, like Tim.
He's a person motivated by his past, the anger and the desire of justice. Like everyone.
John called out Bruce on his bullshit, like all his sons do.
He has black hair (???
He killed people, oof.
He looks hella good in a suit, the most important requirement to be a bat.
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He often disagrees with the law.
John admired Bruce since he was a child and grow up trying to follow his path. Tim vibes.
Well, he gives all the vibes. With Dick, specially the cop part and the 'I love kids' thing, Jason and his anger when he was a teenager and ofc Tim, cause he trained his skills to achieve a goal. I can't think of things he has in common with Damian (?
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Reasons I wanted more of John Blake:
Because his official name is Robin, that's freaking cool.
Bruce trusted him with his legacy.
His story is promising. DC get a whole plot from the 'Dick get shot' thing, I'm sure they can do anything.
He would be a refreshing character, like Terry.
We didn't get the chance to see his trajectory as Robin and that's something I will regret the rest of my life.
Idk I have curiosity of what sort of story it could become. One without a Batman and a new and inexpert Robin having bittersweet adventures. Saying that Bruce is really death or not going back, which could be another reason to make it a series.
Assuming that a comic about Nolan's universe would follow the original storyline. Like Batman Beyond.
Did I already said all his lines are epic af?
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The last three draws kinda look like Nightwing symbol more than Batman's
Only reason I don't want more of John Blake:
Because Christopher Nolan ended it there and he's my lord (???
But then, I love Joseph Gordon-Levitt and all the characters he plays and John "Robin" Blake is no exception.
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Yeah, I did this because I was rewatching the Dark Knight Rises and it suddenly came to my mind.
I wrote it in 5 minutes I don't even know
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daedalusdavinci · 2 years
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batman for the blorbo ask meme. who are you sending to superhell today
send me a fandom and ill tell you my...
blorbo (favorite character, character I think about the most)
obviously its jason. obviously. hes perfect and has no flaws and i need to like. catch up on the rest of his comics. harvey is a close second tho i am in love w him
scrunkly (my “baby”, character that gives me cuteness aggression, character that is So Shaped)
DAMIAN :sob: i want to pinch his little cheeks and swing him around like a toddler manhandles a cat i go crazy every time i see his tiny little face hes so fucking baby
scrimblo bimblo (underrated/underappreciated fave)
oh fucking.fuck. idk that anyone in batman is underrated just bc the fandom is that. wild. everywhere. ykwim. i think duke is underrated tho i love him and he deserves better im working my way thru his comics rn
glup shitto (obscure fave, character that can appear in the background for 0.2 seconds and I won’t shut up about it for a week)
slkjfnlsdjglsjdg god i dont know again i dont think there are Obscure characters in batman like literally everyone knows about stupid randos like condiment king for fucks sake. maybe talia? shes also underrated af and rarely makes appearances and everytime she does im so <333
poor little meow meow (“problematic”/unpopular/controversial/otherwise pathetic fave)
riddler lol eddie is so fucking stupid and lame and i love him but hes like a poor little meow meow that needs to be given a flea bath you know what im talking about
horse plinko (character I would torment for fun, for whatever reason)
aLSO EDDIE LOL slkjfgsnkdjngsdg but ALSO. bruce. im gonna throw bruce in the plinko. i think it would be funny.
eeby deeby (character I would send to superhell)
joker.
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DCU/Batman universe for the fandom ask? (tell me abt your blorbos, etc!)
thank youuuu!
blorbo (favorite character, character I think about the most):
the true answer here is “the exact Bruce Wayne I played in the Telltale Batman series and any Bruce that reminds me of him” but otherwise comics/video games: Joker, non-Gotham tv shows: Poison Ivy, Gotham: Penguin
scrunkly (my “baby”, character that gives me cuteness aggression, character that is So Shaped):
The Penguin from Batman the Animated Series, who is not only adorable but also goes around saying stuff like “Harvey, my dichotomous friend!” Impossible not to love.
scrimblo bimblo(underrated/underappreciated fave):
Clock King, in his various incarnations--he’s the main villain in one of my WIPs
glup shitto (obscure fave, character that can appear in the background for 0.2 seconds and I won’t shut up about it for a week):
genuinely I do not think I have consumed enough DC media to have a truly obscure fave
poor little meow meow (“problematic”/unpopular/controversial/otherwise pathetic fave):
most of my faves are villains but I’m putting the Riddler here bc he’s a gamer
horse plinko (character I would torment for fun, for whatever reason):
SORRY BRUCE
eeby deeby (character I would send to superhell):
jason todd for the very mature and considered reason that we have the same hair and he’s prettier than me
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A, H, K, N and T :)
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T (Hard and Fast Headcanons) - Oh, lots. The first that comes to mind right now is that Penguin ultimately outlives all of Batman’s other villains - and a good chunk of the Batfam - and his memoirs become one of Gotham’s leading authorities on the rise and general history of costumed crime. Being needlessly melodramatic at best and outright fabrications at worst, these memoirs are of course rigorously fact-checked and opposed by the next generation of Batfam and non-crooked GCPD, but all those poor souls have on their side is reality. Illusion has always been so much more powerful when it comes to chronicling history…
Oh, and before I forget - The Killing Joke was actually about Joker trying to get Batman to acknowledge the fourth wall, and I brook no other interpretation.
H (Favorite Source Text for Fandom Stuff) - As of right now? Comics all the way - though I admit a good chunk of what I’m reading is more out of a sense of obligation (all Real Fans™ are able to recite issues 1-150 of Fantastic Four by heart!) than anything else. Still, the content remains reasonably enjoyable for me, especially since I’m finally starting to make headway into the ‘70s and ‘80s, where the Really Good Stuff (hello, “Born Again”) is supposed to be.
That said, non-comic books have also managed to stake out their own little claim, in the form of my one-Discworld-a-week marathon. We’ll see how long that lasts…
A (Ships I Like) - Hrm… well, my first approach to anything even resembling a love triangle in my usual fandoms is to go OT3′s solve everything!, but for something less flashy than that I’m still curious to see if Bruce X Zatanna could ever work outside of a few teases (survey generally says no, but when has that ever stopped the Shipping side of my brain?).
N (Things I Could See More Of In Fandom) - Myndi Mayer fans, Justice League skeptics, people who acknowledge the existence of The Batman.
K (Favorite Development Arc) - Overall answer, I believe I gave in a previous meme. For something DC-specific… I suppose Two-Face, which is to say, the Platonic Two-Face who probably doesn’t exist in any one story except the excellent and eternally underrated ‘90s newspaper strip. Seriously, I continue to maintain that Harvey Dent has the potential to be the richest character in all of Batman, and nothing infuriates me like seeing legion after legion of writers chop up his development arc when they’re not porting it onto their OC creations instead.
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DC Rebirth In Review - The Batman Family
With Doomsday Clock just around the corner and with the Rebirth branding ending too, i thought i would look back at how Rebirth has done for each and every on-going that has come out.
So here’s the next chapter in the series, the previous chapter on the Superman family can be read here, but in this chapter we will be talking about the Batman Family of comics.
Batman - I am a fan of Tom King, his work on Vision, Omega Men and Grayson are amazing, but i am not a fan of Tom King on Batman. His story telling feels muddled at times with what is going on on the page, take the I Am Suicide story for instance, was Bruce and Selina telling each other how they feel really the right back drop for a prison escape plot? It also feels like King likes to tell rather than show, which is the wrong attitude to have in a comic book. The War Of Jokes & Riddles was hit and miss at most when the potential it had was immense, and that seems to be the trap that King is falling into right now. Can’t fault the artwork on this book at all, Finch and Janin provide some of the best and most consistent work for a bi-monthly book, but it’s a shame the writing isn’t doing it justice. - 6/10
Detective Comics - For me, Detective Comics is the definitive Bat-family book of Rebirth, Tynion has managed to turn the long running series into a team book with relative ease. The first issue of the series sees Bruce reveal himself as Batman to his cousin Kate Kane AKA Batwoman, to which she laughs and says she always knew. Together they recruit Tim Drake (Red Robin), Stephanie Brown (Spoiler), Cassandra Cain (Orphan) and Clayface to form a team and set up a new base called The Belfry, which stands in the middle of Gotham. The premise alone is worth the buy but the characterisations are fantastic too, particularly with Clayface. Traditionally a villain, Basil Karlo joins the team with the promise from Bruce that he can get his life back, and its his ascendance from a villain to a hero in his own right that shows what this book is capable of doing. Tynion is onto something with this series and i hope he is on it for a long time to come. The only downside is that inconsistent art teams on the series, Eddy Barrows and  Alvaro Martinez provide artwork for the first dozen or so issues but on an inconsistent basis that makes it jarring if you read in trades. - 9/10
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All-Star Batman - I really enjoy Scott Snyder’s work, he likes to tell big stories and isn’t afraid of rocking out in the process. The first story revolves around Bruce and Duke trying to transport Two-Face to a location for a cure to his mental illness but being stopped along the way by all manner of criminals looking to collect on a bounty put up by Harvey’s bad side. The back up story about Duke is rather interesting because it reveals for the first time that Duke is in fact a meta-human, the story ended but is going to be picked up in Metal at some stage i believe as well as the upcoming Batman: The Signal mini-series. The artwork of the series has been surprisingly experimental in places but it’s also been very good. A very good series, any time Snyder writes Batman you’re in for a treat but the series did feel like it had ran out of steam a little bit with the last arc. Still, a must-read for Batman fans, especially those who loved the New 52 series. - 8/10
Batgirl - A so-so series thus far, Hope Larson falls into the trap of having to serve up Barbara Gordon a love interest in each arc and it becomes predictable when a single young male turns up on the scene that Babs is going to have feelings for them. Was not a fan of Albuquerque on art, it felt very rushed, but Chris Wildgoose stepped up and brought a sense of the familiar when Batgirl returned to Burnside. There’s lot of work to do to get this series to be a must-read. - 5/10
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Nightwing - The book picks up from the end of Grayson as well as Robin War with Dick Grayson returning to his classic blue Nightwing costume in order to go undercover at the Court of Owls, and later he returns to his pre-Flashpoint home of Bludhaven. Writer Tim Seeley takes on Dick Grayson minus his Grayson cohort Tom King and he brings a sense of stability to the series that some will find comforting if they’re moving over from Grayson to this book. Seeley hasn’t been afraid to take risks with Nightwing and it pays off with some really personal story telling later on in the series that will call back to the days of Grant Morrison’s Batman & Robin run. Coupled with the nice artwork from Javier Fernandez, Marcus To and Minkyu Jung, Nightwing has been one of the more consistently enjoyable books of Rebirth and is well worth checking out. - 8.5/10
Batgirl & The Birds Of Prey - In stark comparison to the other Batgirl title, this one is incredibly well written by the Benson sisters (who are also writers on the excellent TV show The 100) and while the artwork hasn’t been the best, it’s still perfectly serviceable and doesn’t spoil the book at all. The writing almost makes me feel like the Benson sisters are acting out the script of each issue because the conversations between Barbara, Helena and Dinah feel so natural and funny too. This book is easily one of the most underrated of Rebirth, it should just be Birds Of Prey though. The recent additions of Catwoman and Poison Ivy to the line up has been refreshing to the series too, so hopefully the Bensons are free to be a bit more liberal with the line up. - 9/10
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Red Hood & The Outlaws - If someone told me in January 2016 that i would be recommending a Scott Lobdell series i would have laughed in their face, but here we are and i’m about to eat some serious humble pie. RHATO is not only one of the best written series in Rebirth but also one of the best looking ones too. Pairing Jason Todd with Artemis (not the one from Young Justice) and Bizarro was a stroke of genius. Artemis challenges Jason to be a more moral man and Bizarro brings out a side of Jason that can only be described really as fatherly. Their moniker of the “Dark Trinity” is not very accurate as there’s not much dark about them, except that they are willing to do things that the classic Trinity are not. Lobdell strikes a great serious tone with a funny one too but he doesn’t overdo it like he has with his other works. Perhaps the only complaint i would have is that he’s yet to have that big storyline just yet that makes you go “fuck yeah!” but i’m sure it’s coming. The artwork by Dexter Soy and colourist Veronica Gandini is so incredibly well done too, with fantastic detail and colour and an almost anime feel to it. Just like New Super-Man, this book flies under the radar for most people but it is well worth reading. - 9.5/10
Batman Beyond - My first big exposure to Batman Beyond was via the Futures End series so some of the references and characters are a little lost on me. The story telling beats are solid though and the art is very nice. Probably one for the die-hards though. - 7/10
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Batwoman - This was one of the first Wave 2 books and is only a handful of issues in, but so far i really like it. I’m not sure how the writing duties work with Marguerite Bennett and James Tynion on the title but it’s clear the book is well plotted. Steve Epting on art duties provides a moody backdrop to the series that suits it well, but i wonder how it would translate to other locales. Solid so far, can’t wait to see where Kate Kane goes from here and teaming her up with Alfred’s daughter Julia is a big plus too. - 7/10
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Conclusions
The Bat Family of books have always maintained a high level of quality and that continues into Rebirth. It’s strange but the only two books i have problems with are the ones that were very popular in the New 52 era, Batman and Batgirl. I don’t see changes happening any time soon though, Batman is still DC’s biggest selling comic and Batgirl is still popular in her Burnside guise too, but i would like to see a change in writer for each book to change things up a little bit.
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Just like with the Superman Family of books, the big winners from Rebirth are the ones who were let down by the New 52 era such as Tim Drake and Jason Todd. A real sense of legacy is coming out of these books right now and it’s a great time to be a Batman fan.
Thanks for reading!
Next up: The Justice League!
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