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emblemxeno · 3 years

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If I may add to fates/three houses stuff. I think fates stuffers from character bloat and lacks letting us see some cool locations. Weak main/true villans. However, I do think fe3h suffers from similar/same issues. I think they have stand out characters that really work when focuses on. Varying success of the handling of the avatar character, trying to write them differently. I think it makes sense they have similar issues they both sold like crazy. They're messy but fun messes that I love.

Character bloat and bad villains I agree on. Corrin, Azura and the royal siblings alone make for 10 characters that have the spotlight at any given time. That’s more than most FE games have already, but Felicia, Jakob, Kaze, and Gunter also have their moments as well. That’s a lot of characters to manage for games that are only just a few chapters longer than Awakening.

As for the villains, while I have complimented them before, they were mostly compliments in comparison to other villains; mainly the Slithers, who tried to be the Loptr Sect but with none of the intrigue, threat (gameplay or otherwise) or major success that the latter had.

But that’s mainly in the case of looking at strictly the villains, which is more or less something I don’t focus on. The point of Birthright and Conquest’s plots aren’t so much that the villains are evil, but the tragedy of having to fight/kill actually good people in the process of eliminating the evil. So I don’t hold the weak writing of Garon, Iago and Hans against the game’s plot too much in that case. It’s the same with 3H, where for as much as I hate the Slithers, it doesn’t really take away from how (mostly) great a villain that Edelgard and the Empire are.

Locations I actually disagree on, as we do get to see pretty much every major location in the game that matters except for the Flame Tribe (but even then we see the tribe in a cutscene). So that part I don’t actually think is that weak.

I will agree with you on that last part though. In all honesty, part of my thoughts regarding my recent mixed feelings about “Are my posts actually worth it?” have been about whether or not it’s just me and the rest of the community taking the series and its plot too seriously for what it’s worth.

Because, let me be brutally honest here. I think saying “Every FE story is bad” is a really fucking weak excuse to get out of bothering to go deeper into each plot’s writing and where each story succeeds and fails. But do I think it’s worth it to get all uppity about “The quality of each FE story matters a lot because this is a distinguished and respectable series full of intrigue and subterfuge and complicated drama”? No. Because it’s not.

This is the same series where a guy got such a big headache from talking to a mage that he said he was gonna go “punch a rock until he feels better”. Where a girl who gets so hungry, so often that she started to eat someone’s boots. Where a girl outright punched her commander in the face because she thought that was a slap. Where a girl repeatedly lands her pegasus on people because that’s her main punchline. Where a guy recruits himself onto your team because he’s so obsessed with beauty and nothing else. Where there was a running gag of a guy using a famous swordmaster’s identity to get popular. Where the playable dragon characters are mostly young girls who live forever. Where there’s meta jokes about the characters and gameplay constantly.

I don’t know who convinced people to think Fire Emblem is this series that’s always serious and gritty and dark all of the time, because a) not only would that be fucking boring for a franchise like this, but b) it really just makes people out to be hypocritical when saying the franchise is “doomed” whenever it does the same things it always had.

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four-loose-screws · 4 years

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Chapter 9: And So, the Door of Fate Opens...

Part 5

Sigurd gathered his entire army in front of the castle and announced that the war was over.

He then went on to thank everyone for all their hard work, and stated that those who were not from Grannvale and wished to return home, should do so now.

That night, a huge celebration banquet was held at Velthomer Castle.

The next day, those who wished to return home did so. The Silessian soldiers and Orgahill Pirates traveled to the north, the Augustrian soldiers to the west, and the Isaachian soldiers to the east.

Before they left, Sigurd generously divided the army’s remaining funds between all of them.

There were less than two hundred soldiers remaining.

The next morning, they started their final march together.

They spent the night at a town along the way, and arrived in Belhalla Field the next afternoon.

There, the Roten Ritter was lined up and waiting for them.

When Lewyn saw them, he said to Sigurd, “There’s way too many people here, don’t you think?”

Sigurd nodded, stopped Farron, and turned towards his army. “If we move towards the palace in a large unit, then we will invite another misunderstanding. I’ve decided the army will stay here, and only a limited number of people will accompany me during my audience with the emperor.”

He then chose who would go with him - Lewyn, Claud, Lex, Azel, Brigid, Ayra, Jamke, Alec, Noish, Arden, Midir, Beowulf, and Chulainn. He left out Erinys and Lachesis.

Only less than twenty people joined him, walking slowly down the long path formed between the two lines of the Roten Ritter on either side of them.

Finally, they could see the Belhalla Castle gate.

Arvis stood before it.

When Sigurd’s group stopped in front of him, he dismounted his horse, and said, “Lord Sigurd, it is with joy that I officially recognize your return home. Congratulations.”

"Duke Arvis, we apologize for making you come all this way just to greet us. If I may ask, is His Majesty in the palace?"

"His Majesty is so gravely ill, that he cannot even leave his bed anymore. That is why I am handling all government affairs myself now."

"So that's what's going on. It pains my heart to hear it. His Majesty was very worried about me, so I will visit the palace after this to apologize to him."

"You will not be able to do that."

"Huh?"

"You will die here as a traitor. I cannot allow you to see the king."

"Wh-What are you… Duke Arvis, what do you mean?"

"Muah ha ha, you mean you haven't realized it yet? You're so soft! You plotted with Duke Byron to usurp the throne! There is no changing that fact. As the husband of the late Prince Kurth's daughter, I must punish you! Don't take it personally."

'He's such a good person, that it makes him a fool.' Arvis thought as he looked at Sigurd's face, dumbfounded in disbelief.

'Byron, Reptor, Lombard, Ring, Chagall, Dakkar… they were all such foolish men, and fools stand in the way of the utopia I am constructing. The nicer those like Sigurd are, the more of an obstacle they are. So there is no other option but for them all to die.'

The ideal Arvis had imagined was the construction of the Grannvalian Empire. The foundation of that empire would be equality. Everyone would be equal no matter which country they came from, the commoners would be protected from the self-centered orders of the nobles by law, and all people would be guaranteed freedom of religion. Of course, the followers of the Loptr Church would not be persecuted either, and would be able to freely worship Loptous.

The truth was, that on the night of his coming-of-age ceremony, Archbishop Manfroy of the Loptr Church had told him that Loptrian blood flowed through his veins. His mother, Cigyun, had been a descendant of Maira.

After he'd heard those words, Arvis was very troubled by them. He'd once witnessed a mother and child be burned at the stake just for being followers of Loptous, and realized there was a chance that something similar could happen to him. He worried and worried, and in the end, his conclusion was that all discrimination must be erased from the world.

'And this is something that only I can do. Only I, who has inherited both the blood of both a Crusader and Loptous, can truly understand the meaning of discrimination.'

To turn his ideals into reality, he would have to demolish the entire current structure of the world.

And to do so, he'd decided to use Manfroy.

Manfroy and the other members of the church stirred up the greed within the nobles across every region of Jugdral, while also planting suspicion in their hearts, causing every country to get involved in the war that soon spanned the entire continent. Whether the Loptr Church’s actions were good or evil did not matter. It was all about upheaving the old structure of society.

‘Anyone would probably think to use the Loptr Church. Yes, I used them. But I did not work with them. I said that very clearly to Manfroy. “I will acknowledge your existence, but I have absolutely no intention of reviving the Loptrian Empire.” When this war is over, I will subjugate all of the surrounding countries, and establish the Grannvalian Empire. My work will be the dawn of a utopia state, and my name will be forever etched into Jugdralian history. Arvis, the first Emperor of Grannvale, will be the most famous name in all of Jugdral.’

Arvis was in very high spirits, and wanted to show his new bride the world he was creating.

‘When she sees that I rule over everything, it should add to her good memories.’

She’d appeared in front of his villa looking confused and lost, yet he’d fallen in love with her at first sight. He hadn't realized it at that time, but it was because she looked just like his mother, Cigyun. She even had the same lavender hair as his mother.

However, while she could speak, she'd lost all memory of her past. At first, Arvis had been very curious about where she was from and what kind of life she'd led until they'd met. Once they'd married and vowed to love each other, though, it didn't matter to him much anymore. Still, whenever he saw her lost in thought, he couldn't help but remember that she had a past he knew nothing about.

At one of those moments, he'd gently rubbed her shoulders and said, "There's no need for you to push yourself to remember. The future is much more precious than the past. If we make lots of good memories from now on, everything will be fine even if you don’t know your past, won’t it?”

He’d said those words for himself as much as he’d said them for her.

Arvis stepped back to reach for his wife's hand, who he'd told to stay safe behind the soldiers, and gestured for her to stand next to him.

"Look, this is the man who killed your father! Sigurd, son of Duke Byron! His punishment will be execution!"

The moment Arvis finished speaking, Sigurd screamed, "Deirdre!!"

And she gasped when she heard his voice.

She felt like she'd heard it somewhere before. She furrowed her brows, stared straight at him, and tried her hardest to remember.

"So it was you! Wasn't it, Deirdre!? It was him!"

"Do you… know me…?"

"You are… my…"

Sigurd started to answer, but Arvis cut off their conversation by ushering her back behind the soldiers so roughly that he almost pushed her. "Escort my wife into the palace immediately."

Two soldiers each grabbed one of her hands.

"Wait, Lord Arvis… Just give me a moment with him…"

"Deirdre!!"

"I order the entire army to kill Sigurd, the traitor, and his accomplices! There is no need to bring any of them back alive. Execute them on the spot!"

"Damn you, Arvis!" Sigurd unsheathed Tyrfing and tried to attack, but Arvis' soldiers pushed him back.

He cut down all the soldiers, only for Arvis to attack him with a Valflame spell a moment later.

His body felt hotter and hotter with each passing second, yet he still took one step forward, then another, and another. 'Arvis!'

Valflame's fire hit Sigurd once again.

He could no longer continue forward, nor could he move at all…. 'Deirdre!!'

When the fire burned out, his charred remains were still standing proud and tall.

And in his right hand, Tyrfing was unchanged, emanating the same glittering light as always.

'Erinys, run!' Lewyn shouted in his heart, while casting a Forseti spell and walking north. 'I won't die. There's so much that I must do.'

When Erinys realized that things had taken a turn for the worse at Belhalla Castle, she yelled, "Run, everyone! Hurry, before the enemy reaches us!"

Then, she spoke directly to Lachesis. "Get on my pegasus!"

Lachesis climbed on behind her, and the two flew north.

'Lord Lewyn told me he won't die.' She repeated to herself over and over the entire way home to Silesse. 'Lord Lewyn told me he won't die.'

Beowulf jumped on his horse and started galloping in the direction he knew Lachesis was in, but standing in his way was a large group of enemy soldiers.

"Outta my way!" He yelled, and forced his way into their formation.

He thought nothing of defense, only swinging his sword over and over and over again.

However, their numbers were too great, and he couldn't make any progress.

'Run, Lachesis!'

A lance stabbed into his side.

As he fell from his horse, his last thought was, 'A noble knight like you needs to make it out of this alive…’

Chulainn stood still, not even unsheathing his sword.

The enemy approaching him thought that he wasn't going to resist, and rushed closer.

Suddenly, like a flash of light, he attacked the enemy. Then, he stepped to the side, and cut down another enemy. He jumped, and killed yet another enemy the moment he hit the ground.

But as he killed a fourth enemy, he was struck by a meteor.

'I don't have any regrets, Sigurd.’

Alec said to Noish, "Seems like this is the end."

"Yeah…"

"Shall we both charge at once?"

"Sure…"

"Alright, good luck."

"You too…"

They both shouted a battle cry, then charged their horses straight into the enemies surrounding them.

Arden followed along after them. "Hey, don't leave me behind!"

At the sight of Arvis' cruel strategy, Azel was finally able to overcome his inferiority complex.

'Attacking us like this makes you the loser, Brother.'

He countered a ball of fire that an enemy had cast with one of his own.

'I was happier than you'll ever be, Arvis.'

There were enemies coming at him from three different directions.

He cast two consecutive fireballs, killing two of them.

However, he couldn't take out the third one in time.

'Tailtiu, take care of the children…'

Midair and Brigid fought side-by-side.

They shot arrows one after the other, keeping their enemies from getting close to them.

But no arrow could stop a burning meteor that was headed straight for them.

It hit Brigid's right arm, and fell directly on top of Midir.

Brigid knew immediately that her arm was now limp and useless. Midir died instantly.

'We were so happy together.'

She endured the intense pain coursing through her body, held Yewfelle under her left arm, and waited for the enemies to approach her.

"I am Princess Brigid of Jungby! Go ahead, kill me!"

Ayra and Lex fought back-to-back.

They no longer had any idea how many enemies they'd killed.

Suddenly, Ayra heard Lex scream in pain.

She stepped back, and realized that he'd collapsed.

'Lex, we're in the middle of battle, so I can't hold you. But I will die with you.'

After that, she continued to fight, but didn't budge an inch.

Finally, lance that she could have dodged if she had moved pierced her side.

She fell atop her husband.

'We will never part ever again, Lex.'

Jamke focused on attacking the enemy general.

He jumped out from behind Sigurd's charred body and aimed an arrow right at the space between Arvis' eyes.

The arrow missed its mark, instead hitting Arvis' left shoulder, but still caused him to stagger.

Then, a fireball slammed into Jamke from behind.

'Aideen, take care of Lester…'

Claud witnessed the events that the Valkyrie Staff had not shown him in utter disbelief.

'This is so terrible. ...Gods, are you really allowing this to happen?’

He prayed to the staff, but it didn't respond.

'This must be wrong.'

The moment he had that thought, he realized what his duty was.

He tightened his grip around the staff, and prayed again.

'Gods, I accept what is happening. But no matter how I look at it, I know it must be wrong. Please do what you must to right this wrong, for the sake of our future. I exchange my life, so that justice and love may win…'

A light shot out of the gem in response.

'Ah… thank you for accepting my prayer. With this, I have fulfilled my duty. Please accept my offering of my life.'

Not even a second later, a meteor fell on top of him.

Lewyn suddenly felt a strange power course through his body.

'I will not die. There's so much that I must do.'

At first, he'd just been trying to convince himself, but now, he really believed he would survive.

He walked forward and cast Forseti spells in rapid succession, without pausing even once.

Each spell caused an explosion front of him, blowing his enemies up into bits and sending their dismembered body parts flying.

'I will not die.'

Lewyn kept walking.

He cast spell after spell, and continued forward...

-End of Fire Emblem Genealogy of the Holy War: Sigurd’s Story Book Two-

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aboutnorsemythology · 5 years

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Loki: The Lord of the Dark Flame and his misinterpretation through History.

The original article is written in Spanish, I hope I translated it well.

It has been the subject of discussion for an infinite amount of time, a discussion that leads to originate such coarse texts and that want to sound very academic or bombastic, but that lose their meaning when wanting to integrate the UPG (Unified Personal Gnosis) or Unverifiable Personal Gnosis, because if is more than true there is no excellent translation of the Eddas into Spanish as well as the Sagas.

Undoubtedly this type of articles cause influence on those who start on the path of the Nordic Tradition, in this case we will take the path of Ásatrú of which we have already mentioned before and its great differences with Odinism (a thing not is the other and vice versa).

Within the Ásatrú the debate has been whether it is correct to worship Loki that son of Laufey (leaf on flames) and Farbauti (The one that hits hard) here we must point out that it is his parents who are known as the Leaf and the Spark that Starts the Fire, being its quality that of the Incessant Flame, of course it is very easy to want to assimilate the name Loki with the word "logí" of which only those who do not understand the epithet of their birth will want to use it as an argument to deny their Closeness to the primal fire of the Múspellzheimr, the origin of the Nordic / Germanic multiverse must never be forgotten, which is often suppressed in order to be more erudite when making baseless denials.

Loki is also known as Loptr (The windy) this name is more than obvious to be received by the qualities of his Father who is known as the Hurricane Giant (Farbauti) and also receives the name of Lóðurr (the one that produces Fire [in the Hulgar Saga the mention is made that Loki is the same Loðurr]) who without a doubt is the BROTHER of Óðínn, but this is omitted since in the Edda Snorra the name of Vili and Vé is given to his brothers. Undoubtedly the one who does not know the facets of Loki, does not know God well and does not know his position at all, arguing that Loki and Óðinn are brothers simply by an oath that is not even mentioned as having been misinterpreted in the Lokasenna, which makes mention of Old Norse textually.

Loki:

"Mantu þat, Óðinn,

er vit í árdaga

blendum blóði saman?

Ölvi bergja

lézktu eigi mundu,

nema okkr væri báðum borit."

Óðinn:

"Rístu þá, Viðarr,

ok lát ulfs föður

sitja sumbli at,

síðr oss Loki

kveði lastastöfum

Ægis höllu í."

Translation:

Loki:

"Remember Odin, who in distant times

we unite our blood;

You said you would never taste beer

if we did not drink both "

Óðinn:

"Get up, Vídar, leave the father of the wolf

seat at the feast

that it does not happen that Loki throws us insults

in the rooms of Aegir "

In these lines of the original language and its translation he never mentions that his oath was to be united, much less so as not to cause harm to someone, so if a fierce follower of the Eddas, whether Odinist, Ásatrú or Nordic Path traveler, could not leave pass, but this is left aside because of the lack of interest to go deeper into something we say we love and of which we want to come to teach. In my opinion (sic) the cult to Loki was suppressed by wanting to give a duality to the Gods, showing an aspect of good and evil, black and white, evil and goodness, but this idea comes from the change of meaning that was given between the years 1200 and 1300 AD that the Edda was written as we know it today, knowing that Scandinavia was Christianized between 1000 and 1100 AD How reliable could the text of the Edda be?.

How reliable could it be that Loki - Loptr - Lóðurr is "demonized / demonized" in a way that is denied worship or given (sýmbel) during a Blót How can we perform Blót to Óðinn sin, Loki ? the total incongruity in forgetting the phrase:

"Without Óðinn he does not drink Loki and without Loki he does not drink Óðinn!"

Within this theme I would like to add as an additional fact that Loki searches among the ashes of Aurboða her heart from which the three monstrous sons he has are generated, Jörmungandr (Who when growing up disproportionately was thrown into the Sea that surrounded the Jörmungrunð), Fenrir (Who was raised by the Áesir and then received care of Týr [who I pull the hand with which the Baugeiðr is held to betray him]) and Hela (Who receives the word of Asýnjur by Óðinn and was the same who grants the Helheim to it)

Invariably taking the Snorra Edda or Minor Edda as an absolute source of traditional Nordic knowledge would be a mistake, but when you can find mentions such as the one Snorri points out in the Gylfaginning:

"And this is my belief"

In Denmark was found the stone Snaptun, stone that showed the face of Loki with the marks of when the dwarfs sewed his mouth, this story is told in the Skáldskaparmál, currently the stone is in the Moesgård Museum and is dated with 1000 years of antiquity, in the same way can also be signaled the stone Kirkby Stephen that is in Cumbria, England, this stone has a chronological order linked to the ninth century.

Within other details is the Faroes poem that speaks of Loki called Lokka Tattur dating roughly in the thirteenth century even though this is an inaccurate data but that is known was made within the Medical Age, its appearance within the current literature was in 1822 and later in1851, it mentions Loki as the friend of men among some other epithets addressed to Farbautisson.

In this same story is where we talk about the kidnapping of a boy at the hands of a giant and it is here where a family of farmers called Óðinn, Hoenir and Loki so they could help the boy, being Loki the only one with his cunning to achieve solve the problem and causing the Giant to lose his life. If it is not about Loki, son of Farbauti and Laufey, brother of Helblindi, then who are they talking about?

I like Goði if I worship Loki, because of his origin, I know his lineage, who are his brothers and who are his attributions and contributions, I do not keep the Christian image that has been given after the adaptation of the Edda Snorra and his evident and undeniable cultural distortion.

Those who do not detach themselves from Catholic / Christian monotheism after their migration to this Tradition, will continue to see everything in a Dual aspect and following the taboo that Loki is bad, when Loðurr / Loki is one of the Three Gods creators of the human being and who As we mentioned earlier, he is the father of Hela, with whom we will one day arrive after our death (we must suppress that absurd idea that we will die and go to Valhalla).

✔️The þursatrú honor Loki.

✔️The Ásatrúar of Allthing Ásatrú México we honor Loki.

✔️The Odinists of the Odinist Brotherhood of the Sacred Fire of Mexico, Argentina and Brazil honor Loki.

And if 20 years ago he was not honored, then now we have those who honor him.

If there are ignorant people who omit Loki in a Blót, there are those who confuse Gullveig with Freyja

#loki #my edit #Ásatrúar #aboutnorsemythology.tumblr.com #norse mythology

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lokinewbiewitchy · 5 years

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From a FB page:

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Loki ( or rather Loke/Loptr/Hveðrungr) as in the original Norse god, was many things you might not know. Here are a few of them:

-gender fluid -pansexual -a mother -intersex

These things are not tumblr inventions, or Marvel inventions. Marvel doesn't acknowledge most of these points. This is the original mythology/Edda Loki.

Gender fluid: He loved to transform and transcend between genders. He also practiced magic, which was seen as ergi/womanly ( Ergi might loosely translate as "gay", in the sense of being "unmanly -__- . though Odin did the same and used magic, he wasn't seen as ergi ). There are different accounts of him walking around as a woman for pure fun, enjoying male attention etc. - transformation was very much his "thing"!

Pansexual: Loki had a lot of sex, with any kind of living being ( and trees, and rocks 👌🏻). He didn't care if it was man, woman or in between or neither. He was known to be sexually hungry, adventurous and daring. He had several affairs, casual sex and two devoted wives, over the cause of his life.

A mother: Loki fathers children, but he also gave birth to officially one, but potentially more. In different versions of the myths, he might have given birth to a few of his monster children ( he is known as the "mother of monsters"). They are most commonly told to be his giant wives children, but there are very old untranslated poems and stories where he is giving birth to a few of them. While that is debatable, he did birth Sleipnir the horse. While people try to say Loki was raped by the stallion, the original Prosa Edda and early poems actually never say he didn't enjoy being a female horse or the interaction with the stallion. It's said that him sand the stallion had "such dealings" that he fell pregnant. That's open to interpretation in my opinion. He wasn't "raped by a horse", he was a female horse himself at that point. If you see Loki as a cis male, it might feel odd to think he might not dislike what happens with the stallion. But if you know Loki was gender fluid and sexually very adventures, it's suddenly a lot less weird or unimaginable. He might not have planned for that encounter, because he only wanted to distract the horse, but there is no real statement that he totally hated everything that happened. I mean, being in a mare-mindset and all? BUT it's all up to personal opinion, and it's fine to believe one thing or the other.

Intersex: Loki as a giant ( or half giant) was most likely intersex. The Jotnar of Jotunheimr were giants known to have both male and female genitalia, according to many versions of north mythology ( not just the Edda, but other myths and retellings too). They birthed an sired children alike, so when speaking of Lokis mother or father, it doesn't mean them being male or female, rather if they had given birth to him or not. There are different giants in the Edda with strikter gender presentation. But when it comes to the Jotuns/Jotnar of Jotunheimr, they were intersexual beings. There are different versions of Lokis origin ( we ignore marvels silly attempt to make him Odins adopted son. They were blood brothers!), in some he is presented as a half-Jotun, in other just as a normal giant. But half or full-giant, he was most likely just as intersexual as the other giants in the myths. Most likely!

These are some points people might not know about him. I researched a lot over the years, even talked to a danish Loki-expert who works with Viking museums in Denmark and Sweden. If you never heard of these things about him, please don't just disregard these details about Loki and his rich history. It's what MAKES him Loki.

Loki is a character that's very often debated in depth, to the point where some people even debate if he was truly a Norse god, or if he was later written into the Edda by Christian translators to create a negative character like the devil/Lucifer. Or if he was real, but twisted to appear in a more negative light. ( I chose to believe he was an original character in the myths/religion of the Vikings, not a Christian invention )

Ps.

Excuse typos, or that I didn't post sources. This was a passion-post. Sourcing all the research I did for over 6 years, back before 2011, mostly offline , with experts/professors, as well as online, would mean I have to find really old links, scan books and articles I don't have near me and call back people. HOWEVER, all this is 100% based on actual sources and not on tumblr or fan-canons or Marvel.

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-pasted from FB group “ True Trickster - Norse Mythology Loki research Group“

#Loki #myth Loki #Myth!Loki #Loki*

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exalted--zealotry · 6 years

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Have you thought about doing a verse where Anri's alive in Awakening? Like he survived with amnesia or something, or stayed away once he realised Ylisse was better off without him?

( ooc. FYI, everybody, don’t expect answers like these to be common at all– it’s just a topic I thought to be interesting. It’s very long, I feel, and there’s going to be some spoilers for Awakening, Shadow Dragon/Mystery of the Emblem, Echoes and the Jugdral duology, with major spoilers for Jugdral, so it’s going under the cut; if you’re not interested, or haven’t played either Awakening or the Jugdral games yet and want to play those games as blind as possible, feel free to skip this post! You have been warned.

Oh, and this is also an experiment to see whether or not I’m making a fool of myself by trying to add in HTML to certain places where it may not work– )

In all honesty, anon? No, I hadn’t; not until I saw this in the inbox, and I did a little bit of pondering. It wasn’t too much, and not for too long, but I’ve come to the conclusion that it would be better off for Anri to be dead prior to and during the events of Awakening, unless it was an AU that heavily altered the timeline to the point where the events of Awakening never took place to begin with; while it would be easier RP-wise to have such a verse, I think that would betray some of Awakening’s themes. It’s been a while since I last played Awakening, so I may be somewhat rusty when it comes to the plot, but I have two main points for this:

1. In Awakening, Chrom’s father was stated to be a warmonger, which is why he’s remembered poorly by pretty much the entirety of the game’s cast who remembers him. In a Skype conversation with a few friends of mine– names won’t be named, but they’ll know who they are, with one person in particular hopefully helping me out if I missed something or got something wrong– it’s mentioned how eerily similar some of the actions Chrom makes after the game’s timeskip are to actions Anri would take, with the most notable I feel to be Chrom’s utter lack of hesitance to Robin’s plan to burn the ships during chapter 14 of the Valm arc; after all, they are Plegian ships. Even before chapter 14, this is present– either in the cutscene before before chapter 12 plays, or the cutscene after chapter 12, Chrom absolutely refuses to go to Plegia for assistance; he only goes to them for help when he realises that there’s simply no other option in the fight against Walhart. And do I really need to mention Chapter 9? I won’t for the sake of not spoiling those who haven’t played Awakening yet– which is probably like 7 people or something– but I will mention that in Chapter 10, Chrom is absolutely unwilling to surrender to Mustafa, who was essentially Awakening’s Camus archetype and deserved so much more screen-time. Chrom makes it absolutely clear early on that he aspires to be like Emmeryn, but the way he acts throughout pretty much the entire game goes against that goal, and from what I remember, it’s not until near the end of the game where one of the Khans– either Flavia or Basilio, but I think it was Basilio– calls him out on it. With these details in mind, I think it would be better if Anri stayed dead during the events of Awakening– the man is remembered as a hated warmonger by his own children, Chrom specifically, IIRC; if Chrom were to find an amnesiac Anri, or an Anri who became a hermit, then I feel it’d be a detriment to Chrom’s character, as he’d be able to confront the man himself and air his feelings and grievances– but he can’t. Chrom would never get those answers; based on the Art of Awakening artbook, Chrom is 6 years younger than Emmeryn, and 4 years older than Lissa, as revealed by an illustration with an age 14 Emmeryn, age 8 Chrom, and age 4 Lissa. It’s stated in-game that Emmeryn was crowned Exalt at the age of 9, close to 10 IIRC, making Chrom only about 3-4 years old when Anri died, and making it highly likely that Lissa was born after her father’s death, so Chrom and Lissa would’ve grown up hearing so much hatred and vitriol said about their father– it’s likely that’s how they’ve known him their entire lives.

2. IIRC, it’s never exactly stated why Chrom’s father went to war with Plegia in the first place, although I imagine the most likely belief among the community is that the Exalt was made aware of the Avatar’s birth and the implications of that, so he rode to war to stop that; for this point, I’m going to go a lot more subjective and headcanon-y, which is why I’ll refer to Chrom’s father as Anri from this point on– this goes slightly into detail about the Grimleal breeding programme, but if you want more depth about that, I recommend reading the post(s) written by my close friend Jessica, over at @i-nsubordination; this is also where the spoilers for Marth’s games, Echoes/Gaiden and the Jugdral duology come in, so if you want to stay unspoiled for those games, please stop here. Given that I imagine Anri to be a deeply religious individual, who’s incredibly devout to Naga, I believe that his war on Plegia was, more than anything else, crusade, if you will– a holy war, if you catch my meaning; specifically, the part of Plegian religion revolving around Grima– I’m, of course, referring to the Grimleal. For those who have played or know the synopsis behind Genealogy of the Holy War’s story– referred to as just ‘Genealogy’ or ‘Jugdral’ from here on, even though the latter would like infer both Genealogy and Thracia 776– then you should be aware of the Grimleal’s method of producing an Avatar for Grima through a breeding programme is very similar to the Loptr Sect/Loptyrian Cult’s method of creating a vessel for Loptyr– even though the Grimleal almost certainly would’ve done theirs entirely internally, as Arvis worked with Archbishop Manfroy to make his ideals a reality; Manfroy blackmailed Arvis with his knowledge of Arvis’s minor Loptyr blood, most likely to ensure Arvis’s co-operation. Then Deirdre’s kidnapping and mind-wiping by Manfroy happens in/during Chapter 3 of Genealogy, where she’s left in close proximity of Velthomer castle… where she’s found by Arvis. This is not a coincidence.

“So what?”, you may ask. “What does the story of Genealogy have to do with Anri?” Well, for my interpretation Anri, such stories– alongside the rest of the story behind Genealogy, the tale of Marth’s granduncle, the original Anri– and Anri’s namesake– alongside the tales of Marth himself, and the first Exalt– were all stories he was raised upon, and stories he obsessed over growing up, as these all involve his bloodline; from Tiki and Robin’s B support in Awakening, it’s stated that Chrom is less like Marth and more like ancestor who lived a millennia before Marth; due to the lack of confirmation that the Elibe and Tellius games exist in the same timeline as Jugdral, Archanea/Valentia and Ylisse/Valm, it’s highly likely that this ancestor mentioned by Tiki is none other than Sigurd. This support also confirms that Marth is a distant ancestor of Chrom, dating back two millennia before the events of Awakening– then again, Falchion and the blue probably should’ve done that already, alongside the fact that the Halidom is located roughly around where the various different incarnations of Archanea were, alongside Pyrathi and Caeda’s home, Talys– ironically, Anri and Marth’s homeland, Altea, became part of Plegia instead. The Exalted bloodline also means that, of course, Anri would grow up hearing the stories of the First Exalt, from the previous millennium– just to make that crystal clear, Marth is not the First Exalt. How do we know that the First Exalt lived a millennium before Anri and the events of Awakening? Simple: Grima, and the length of time Grima has slumbered before awakening– that is, before he woke up, hence the lack of capitalisation. Gaiden and Echoes are stated to take place a year after the events of Shadow Dragon; the canonicity of Echoes’s Act 6 is questionable at best among some, since Echoes would seemingly have you believe in the cutscene after finished Duma that the Valentian Falchion remained lodged inside Duma’s skull. However, if the entirety of Act 6 is canon, then that means Alm, Celica and co. managed to ( seemingly ) slay Grima at the bottom of Thabes Labyrinth, likely using Falchion in the process. The stats of the Falchion obtained in Act 5 of Echoes matches the FE1 and FE3 versions of it’s Archanean counterpart in terms of might, while forging it gives it stats equal to the Archanean Falchion from Shadow Dragon DS ( the actual Falchion, not Nagi’s Falchion ) and New Mystery– 12 Might, 100 hit and 0 crit; of course, the Falchion used to seal Grima away by the First Exalt was once the Archanean Falchion, not the Valentian Falchion, but this could imply that both Falchions could get the job done, as both Duma and Mila are sealed in the Valentian Falchion, making it likely that the Valentian Falchion could also seal Grima away. However, in order to reach Grima, the Sage’s Shield must be removed to open a door; it is almost guaranteed that, a thousand years after Alm, Celica and co. leave the Thabes Labyrinth, Grima awakens to wreak havoc across the world, until put to slumber once more by the First Exalt, a thousand years before the events of Awakening.

What’s the point of Anri waging war against Plegia, you may ask? Simple: Anri wages a holy war– a crusade– against Plegia, much like Sigurd and Seliph, in order to combat the still-slumbering Fell Dragon– this time, with the intention of slaying it for good; a way to not only live up to the legacy of his ancestors, but perhaps even surpass them, and ensure his place in history– Anri wanted to be remembered as a hero– but, even more than that, Anri simply wanted to fulfill what he believed to be the will of Naga; he went to war with Plegia because he believed that wiping out the Grimleal was the right course of action– Anri simply would not have an epiphany, and lead a hermit’s lifestyle. But he failed to stop Grima’s return, and he died, which allowed for the events of Awakening to take place. It is for this reason, and I feel for the better of Chrom’s character, that Anri is one of the most important characters in Awakening not seen in the game, alongside Robin’s mother. And it’s why I don’t plan on making a verse where he’s alive during the events of Awakening.

If you’ve stuck with me this far, thank you so much for reading! I have one last thing to say– nothing concrete, but still something interesting; in The Sacred Stones, during Eirika and Saleh’s B-Support, Saleh mentions an important figure in the history of Caer Pelyn– Nada Kuya, the warrior princess. Saleh states, “I’ve been told she was a strong woman, beautiful and proud. She spoke with the voice of nature, and she lived at one with the earth,”; “well, in ancient times, Caer Pelyn was invaded by a foreign nation,”; “ and leading the charge against the invaders was Nada Kuya. She carried a narrow sword made from a fang gifted to her by the dragonkin. With her dragon blade in her hand, she drove Caer Pelyn’s enemies away.” A princess who fought back against an invading force wielding a sword made from the fang of a dragon… If that doesn’t sound like Marth, I don’t know what does. While this doesn’t confirm that they’re related, or that Magvel is also a part of the Jugdral, Archanea/Valentia and Ylisse/Valm timeline, it’s food for thought. )

#headcanons #( I believe I shall retire for the night... [ooc.] )#fe4 spoilers #echoes spoilers #fe13 #fe13 spoilers #Chrom's Father #( Wow this got long )

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