#I AM gonna make a tag 4 this stuff; dont u worry gjhkhvkhvk

[mifhortunach]

CANADALAND - ep289

Sorry, its all just a buncha quotes/1/2-assed transcript of diff parts ig

SP [wrt the image that bnl originally sold themselves as ‘kids from scarborough’, etc]: And that was really hard to deal with later, like, we knew we’d dug our own grave in a way, and that that was what [had helped to make us] successful, the way we presented ourselves. We were so uncomfortable presenting ourselves in a way that could be seen as pretentious, and I think we just didn’t believe it [about] ourselves, but then, what it meant was; you could fill an album with songs that were not necessarily, ‘novelty songs’, and critics, writers, wouldn’t see that, or wouldn't be able to see past the image, and the goofy songs. [...] We always, felt like ‘well The Beatles could put [that octopus song on the same album as ‘she's so heavy’]’ [...] It took us, it took me - a long time to get [my] head around it - the fact that it’s okay for people to like the music however they want to like it, y’know. I struggled [with that], as we got more successful [...]. 

SP: [...] “the way that we loved you embarrasses us” too, there’s also that too.

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HOST [on changing ‘your’ image as musician]: You’re always just one song away, right? [...] Like, I don’t know if the world has to be ready, if all the stars have to align, but it’s always just like... to see you in a different light, or for something else to happen, it’s just [a single] song away.

SP: Well, and I feel like, I kinda tried that, and I kinda tried that a bit too hard. Page One, which was my first kinda ‘real’ solo record out, after I left bnl. A lot of it was like, “See I’m different from bnl!”, but then also part of it is like, me saying “See I’m the same! I’m that guy who does that thing that you already know from bnl!”. It was conflicted that way. I’ve stopped thinking about it, and just made music [...] I think I make better stuff because I’m not thinking about it. Like, we talked about how, ‘Brian Wilson’, which I wrote when I was 19, even then, I was thinking about like, “Where do I fit” “Who's gonna like this”. I remember making Gordon and thinking like, “This is gonna be like, a mix of Frankie goes to Hollywood’s ‘Welcome to the Pleasure Dome’ and ‘Sergeant Pepper’”, “It’s gonna be like, ‘Welcome to the Pleasure Dome’ for the indie kids!”. Like, I’m trying to market this in my head, which is... They’re ridiculous references, but they’re awesome references, but it’s like, why even think about it. Now, when I know there’s almost no chance, like who [is going to be like], ‘I’m gonna go see that 49y/o from that band I liked when I was 10′.

HOST: And you’re imagining that it’s that same listener, who you have [catch up with what’s changed, what’s tased the same]. Like, I appreciate what you’re saying, “just do what you’re doing and don’t think about it”, but if it does happen, it'll probably be somebody who would've probably heard your music in the past, but it wouldn't matter.

SP: That’s what I’m waiting for, so the baggage is gone for people, I think. I think there is a lot of baggage... and that’s unfortunate, ‘cause we did some good stuff. I don’t look back and go, “God...”. Nah, theres a couple things where I think “God, I wish we didnt do that”, but not that many.

HOST: And now I have to ask, what are they?

SP: We probably shouldn’t’ve released ‘another postcard (with chimpanzees)’, as a single, but we knew that then at the time too. It’s still fun to listen to. 

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#ppp #oh god oh christ #when I first listened to this interview/whatever there was a VERY specific part where Iwas like 'fck gotta get that down!' & im not sure if #*this is actually //it// #ykwim? my LIFE for him 2 be on a podcast/interview thats actually interesting lmaooo or more ABOUT The Work(tm) #rather than a repeat of the same fckn stuff again & again - which I get!! but cmon like #im trying 2 live my semi-embarrassed truth w these posts ykwim? which was the purpose of those tib posts I was doing yonks ago 2 #I AM gonna make a tag 4 this stuff; dont u worry gjhkhvkhvk #also found my notes from that 2019 clown lecture so... ;0 wink wonk etc #uuuuuhhhh otherwise idk.. I listened 2 & read a transcript of a little interview he did on a fan pod? & BOY did that rly make it more clear #*to me how much power Actually Hearing tone has 2 change perception/reception ykwim? like. reading it it seemed.. alright but mabs a little #*whatever/terse/smth.. /nice/ but not comfy 4 want of a diff descip - but hearing the thing was like 'this guys coming across Well(tm)' & li #*like. idfk 'generous/kind' ig.. w the (obvs a little frazzled/nervous/star-struck) host of that pod - warm like ig is what I mean #the HOST of that came across exactly the same in both tho! so maybe its truly all in the power of word choice or me misreading shit #bnl #my GOD I cannot WAIT 2 get back 2 DRAWING #& if u have tag suggests.. hmu #- && HERE IT IS~: #'the best you can do is make the art you are driven to make and in the end I know [this] sounds like me'