I'm about to ramble like I've never rambled before.
Season five is going to have the most well executed displays of affection and romantic moments not only because byler will be happening but also because this show has always been about LOVE. Love has been constant throughout the entire show. It's always been about love saving the day. Which is why we see what happens when love is unwavering. When it's hidden. When it's suppressed. We see the consequences of believing there is a "right way" to love. We see the consequences of performing love. And we see the rewards of just loving. No matter what other people say. No matter if people think you're crazy. If you love someone you fight for them even when everyone tells you it's wrong. Or that you shouldn't. Or that you should give up.
That is most prevalent in season one and two.
In season one the whole town thinks Joyce is crazy. But she says it herself "Maybe I'm crazy! Maybe I'm out of my mind! But god help me I will keep these lights up until the day I die if I think there's a chance that Will is still out there!" Jonathan and Nancy team up to kill the demogorgon because they love Will and Barb respectively. Mike, Lucas, and Dustin continue to search for Will even when it will get them in trouble. Even when it's dangerous. Even when everyone believes he's dead. They keep searching and they keep fighting because they love him.
In season two Joyce, Jonathan, and Mike do not stop trying to reach Will. Even when he appears to be gone, they keep reaching. And once they reach him they keep holding on. And even when Will tells them to close the gate, likely knowing it will kill him, they don't accept that. Joyce finds a way. Mike, Lucas, Dustin, Max, and Steve find a way to give El and Hopper a fighting chance. All of their actions are fueled by unwavering love and loyalty for each other.
This show has always been about love. It has been the lifeblood of the entire series. It has been a constant, so much so that you almost become blind to it. Because unwavering love is the baseline, you don't really notice it until something changes. That's what seasons three and four did. They made us notice that the baseline existed in the first place. We started to see fluctuations.
In season three, Mike and El are constantly off in their own little world, they aren't considerate of their friends. Will is feeling completely and totally isolated and like the group is falling apart. Dustin is separated from them for the entire season. Will says it best in the rain fight "where's Dustin? See you don't know and you don't even care! And obviously he doesn't either and I don't blame him!". The Party has their good moments in season three, but gone is the shameless love and unwavering support that they once offered each other. Lucas and Mike leave Will out and make fun of him. Which is so unlike them. None of them actually believe Suzie exists, and they humor Dustin in a condescending manner. Dustin isn't an idiot, he knew that they were being condescending. But he chose to give them the benefit of the doubt and tolerate them because it was so unusual for them to be so mean to each other. In conclusion, season three shows us the consequence of the loss of that unwavering and unselfish love.
(color code for this point on: genuine love / performance / something that is not loving)
In season four, there is even more fluctuating. The season starts off with El lying in her letter to Mike. Ending a letter of lies with "Love, El". Which is an interesting juxtaposition to the concept of "true love". Will's feelings are spotlighted by the mention of the painting and the "girl" he might like. Mike and Dustin are not supportive of Lucas, and they are not there to celebrate his accomplishments. Will is supportive of El and tries to comfort her in the face of her "failures". (Not that I think her class presentation was a failure, she did amazing. But she felt like she had failed.) Lucas continues to reach out to Max and pay attention to her even when she continuously pushes him away; even when she's mean. We see Mike and El putting on fake smiles, it's clear that they can't be themselves in this relationship. They're once again ignoring Will. Mike and Will fight again. Mike and El have their fight about Mike's inability to say "I love you" and about how he makes El feel like a monster. Joyce and Murray go to FUCKING RUSSIA to save Hopper. Mike and Will begin to patch up their relationship. Will gives Mike the painting and along with it his veiled love confession. And although it's hidden behind a flimsy lie, it is such a beautiful act of love. Because the lie is not selfish. He's lying because he believes it is what's best for Mike, not himself. He hands over his heart on a silver platter for Mike and tells him that it's someone else's because he believes that's what Mike needs. Although it is dishonest, it is closer to the concept of "true love" than El's letter from the beginning of the season. (Not a lot of consistency. Well, there's consistent inconsistency. This season is so far from the baseline)
And then we have Mike's monologue. Mike's monologue that brings the concept of "love saves the day" to front and center stage. And for the first time we see them completely and utterly lose.
(I'd like to say that I hate the way people say that the deaths in season 4 are Mike's fault because of the monologue. They are not his fault, he is 14 oh my god please stop putting that on him. But the loss is crucial to understanding why that baseline I was talking about is so important.)
In the first two seasons, when we were at this "baseline", the show never told us that love was going to save the day. It didn't have to tell us. It was obvious, but not in a dramatic and cheesy way. The monologue is dramatic and cheesy. It uses romance tropes that no one actually likes. It doesn't line up with any of Mike's behavior throughout the entire show. This is the first time that the show states over and over again "love is going to save the day". It's this big dramatic moment that falls flat on its face because we have never needed them to tell us this before. So why are they telling us now?
"Forced conforming. That's what's killing the kids."
For the first time, stranger things conforms to the usual dramatics of the "love saves the day" trope. And a kid literally dies.
In season one, when they find Will in the UD, we know what has led to this moment. We know that Joyce has fought her way to this moment fueled by nothing but unwavering love and an unyielding belief that her son was out there. That he was alive. Then they find him dead. But Joyce and Hopper fought for Will for that entire week, why would they stop fighting now. So Hopper starts cpr, and it's an intense moment. But it's not dramatic. It's just real, and raw. It's a mother desperately begging her son to come back to her. And Will lives.
Compare that to the dramatics of the monologue while Max is being murdered? It doesn't take a genius to figure out what happened there.
El brings Max back in a quiet moment. She finds her resolve and she says "No. You're not going." And this moment feels similar to when Will was resuscitated. Lucas is sobbing and desperate for someone to help. And El helps. That moment is not a performance. No one is there to see what she does. That moment is an act of true love. It's not fueled by a dramatic monologue. It's just love. For this one moment, we come back to the baseline.
Season four was about the performance of love. And conforming to the "right way" to love. That is why they failed.
I believe that season five will see the return to this baseline that I talked about. For all the types of love we see in the show, but the one I'm focused on is romantic love. (This is not me saying that romantic love is more important, it's just the one I'm thinking about the most right now)
Because not only has the show always been about love, it's also always been about Will. It started with him; it started with the group's love for him. If love is the lifeblood of the show, Will is the heart and soul of the show. And now there has been so much attention drawn to Will's romantic love for Mike, and his desire to be loved in that same way. He is so so sad because he believes that this form of love just isn't for him. His love being requited is a satisfying ending to his arc, but is also the perfect opportunity to bring the show back to its "baseline". Will's arc concluding with his love being requited is the perfect way to drive home the message they've been sending this entire time. The heart of the show deserves to receive the love it has inspired.
Will has loved Mike. Mike has loved Will. They don't need a big dramatic confession. They just need to be honest with themselves and honest with each other. True love.
This was just a ramble so I don't really have a conclusion and I don't know if anyone will understand what I'm trying to say. But this is an aspect of the show that I absolutely adore and I am so passionate about it and I just had to talk about it.
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my very long, incoherent, unedited, unnecessarily rambly throughts rewatching utsukushii kare s2 ep. read at your own expense 👍
I find hira’s beginning monologue so interesting, how he says saying I like you is hard to say out loud and yet he so easily says things that are way bigger than that and show so much more commitment and devotion, and he gives it away in his actions too. idk if it’s that he separates them in his head, like kiyoi being his king and kiyoi being someone he likes are two separate things of he thinks those things don’t give away his feelings, again maybe bc he doesn’t connect them. it’s just so interesting. god I wanna know how his brain operates.
also what he says about greed, being content to just watch from afar but people are greedy, and courage, ‘the sin of touching god, pretending that it’s courage’, god I love that line. the sin is his greed, that he thinks he disguises as having the courage to… confess I guess? like he wasn’t actually, in his mind, brave enough to say he likes kiyoi, instead he sees it as his greed winning over. he sees touching kiyoi, being with him, as something bad, sinful, something he doesn’t do, as it breaks his established king and servant dynamic. he shouldn’t have the right, and yet he wants it too much to listen to himself. that’s the whole hypocritical, paradoxical thing about it. he’s set the rules in his mind and he’s the one breaking them and telling himself it’s bad, when none of that is true, it’s all just cooked up in his head. the sin is the lie and the courage is the reality, he really was brave enough to show his feelings even just enough for them to register with kiyoi, that there’s real love there thats not religious devotion, and the bravery will keep coming as he chooses to let himself live in that reality instead of a world in his head that punishes himself.
I just love that kiyoi’s inherent love language is ‘ew you’re gross’, bc it’s so easy for hira to take it literally but also still love it and understand what it means. and I love that kiyoi only truly gets mad when he perceives hira to be unsure about something between them or regret it or want to take it back. like when he says ‘I was too persistent’, that’s what angers kiyoi, the self doubt, bc what they did isn’t something kiyoi views badly at all. it only makes him mad when he things hira views it that way. you can even see the difference between that fake and real anger, when hira calls him cute and he goes back to calling him gross, which we know is a sign of affection, kiyoi just gets too blushy to compute and has to bail before his feelings get out. also, you can see there’s no real fear, that it’s all more playful, bc when kiyoi threatens, hira doesn’t cower, he loves it more, and isn’t afraid to say that, no matter what kiyoi has threatened to do. he can’t help it, he just finds the threat of murder too cute when it comes from early morning, sweater paws kiyoi
the fact hira says ‘every day wanes and waxes’ only to at the end talk about how he feels stuck on that 14th stage of the waxing moon. again, it’s contradictory. he knows time passes, he knows that phase will end, but he doesn’t see that kiyoi. maybe he finds comfort in being stuck in his familiar place, the role he set for himself, maybe he can’t imagine making progress, having a reality where he is with kiyoi, for real. but the moon is already full, he just needs to step into reality and not be stuck in that picture.
also I love that the people in his photography club don’t give him a chance to explain it’s not the full moon and just talk over him, but kiyoi gives him the space to speak and explain himself. it shows kiyoi’s understanding of him, and hira’s comfort to be more confident and let himself speak. and there’s something nice about how everyone else is just gonna see a full moon, but hira and kiyoi will see that piece missing, that bit of imperfection. I think that’s quite a nice analogy for their relationship.
love that they say hira was teasing them and koyama just looks like ‘??? hira??? yeah, sure jan’
huh?? im watching this on Viki whereas I watched it previously on gagaoolala and the subtitles here are different. the meaning hasn’t been too off so far, but here it changes the meaning completely. on gagaoolala it says kiyoi was supportive of hira staying in the club, but on viki it says hira wanted to support kiyoi so he stayed. does anyone with some kind of grasp of Japanese know which one of these is right?????
apart from viki subtitles being weird (super calm instead of super cool???) I absolutely love this line, where kiyoi says how much he wants to try and be better and improve and he’s called cool for it. as someone who always had to hide that ambition and desire in him, to see him not only pursue his dreams but also be told that makes him so cool, i fucking love that. at school, it’s cool to mess about and not care, but actually caring is the coolest thing you can do
I. fucking. LOVE. possessive and protective kiyoi. it’s just one of my weaknesses, the whole i can shit on him as much as I want but if anyone else says a word against him there will be blood. it’s just. agh it’s so good. hira is someone who no one ever cared about or stood up for, and yet here’s this big, cool, popular, hot guy that sees red whenever someone says anything slightly bad against him. I just think it would send hira insane if he knew just how possessive kiyoi can be.
again there’s something so contradictory about how hira obsesses over kiyoi on screen and is not shy about it, he doesn’t try to hide what he was doing or anything, and yet he still remains so careful around kiyoi. as he said, he’s happy to watch at a distance, and it’s like he almost doesn’t realise what his reality is. he has kiyoi right there, he can see him, speak to him, touch him whenever he wants and yet he not only consumes him at a distance but actively maintains the gap. it’s like he just doesn’t get the truth that is right there. kiyoi is his, he doesn’t need to keep this separation up, yet somehow he does, either consciously or unconsciously, it’s his brain written rules that he needs to get over.
this bit!!!!! when kiyoi wants to be fed and hira just holds up the plate and gives him chopsticks. you can tell that kiyoi wants hira to feed him, it’s cute and romantic, and funnily enough it’s an act of service which fits in with hira’s perceived role, and yet he still doesn’t see himself worthy of doing so, as if touching the food his king will eat is something so impossible he doesn’t even consider it.
behind it all, this is just kiyoi dressing his boyfriend up to look cute and hot and model clothes for him and I love that.
also I love this small moment where kiyoi goes to put the hat on him, the kind of hat hira wears when he’s in his stalker mode with the glasses, the height of his subservience, and instead takes it off and pushes his hair back. it’s like he’s saying you don’t need to be that, you can be you, and let everyone see that. it’s so small and subtle but the meaning of it, that he wants hira to have the confidence to be himself, to let that out and show it off, that he thinks he’s cool and hot and amazing and wants to show him off. agh. I just can’t.
and the way he says nothing could ever bring me this much happiness, but all it also brings me fear (I think the gagaoolala subtitles were ‘all I remember is fear’ which I like more), it shows that this should make him happy, the happiest he’s ever been, having kiyoi this close, like this. so why does it terrify him? hira’s fear running throughout this ep is kiyoi leaving him, breaking up with easily him at the drop of a hat, so it’s as if, by being this close to him, that fear consumes him, is all he can think of. but I think that fear is only there bc of how he views their relationship, still stuck in their king and servant roles. he knows he shouldn’t be doing this, that this should be impossible, almost that he’s lucky and should be grateful for this but not expect it to last, bc he should never be allowed near the king for long, it’s not right. again, his brain is saying one day he’ll wake up and see you for what you are, below him, and leave you. but hira, and only hira, puts himself in that place. the truth is what hira really is is human, on kiyoi’s level. and what’s more, kiyoi is the one that we see later doesn’t want hira to leave him. he has this fear too, but for him it’s a fear of loneliness. it’s so interesting that their fear comes from these two different places but manifests the same. hira thinks kiyoi is always on the edge of leaving him, but kiyoi begs not to be left alone. they’re both terrified of it ending, when neither one of them ever would.
kiyoi’s face at 12:12 exactly. the disgust. the anger. the ‘how dare you’ of it all. and then he gets hira to feed him (still not physically touching his food) just to flex, to show ownership. man, that’s my shit.
I also find it interesting that hira is so afraid of an end, even death, that is so far away, and so unlikely in the moment, that it consumes him to the point that he can’t actually live and enjoy the moment, the fact he has kiyoi. again, he’s right there but, despite all his devotion, it’s like he doesn’t actually see kiyoi, and I can see how that would get to and annoy and hurt kiyoi the most. and he even says it. ‘Don’t live in your own world. We’re hanging out in this one’
also that he says a world without kiyoi is like death but after high school, when they didn’t see each other, he did not in fact die. but I can’t expect hira to be logical at all.
this is the bit that underpins how they are so good for each other. kiyoi wanting to support hira, not for support sake but because it’s true. that doesn’t reach hira, he thinks it’s just kindness and charity, that it’s not sincere. but kiyoi is sincere, and continues to be, but when it goes over that point, when kiyoi gets close to saying he thinks hira is handsome, and that he likes that, and hira starts to see that for what it is and not just comfort, that’s when kiyoi bails. he can’t face being that honest, but the honestly is what hira needs. they need each other. it’s right there.
and it’s there in that line too. when kiyoi calls him cool, but hira doesn’t believe him. kiyoi asks if hira thinks he’s lying, which of course his answer is no. his king would never lie, that’s bad and he’s not a bad person, he could never be. which means hira’s only feasible option is to believe him, but that goes against everything he thinks of himself, and that’s where it all starts to crumble. hira can’t love and adore kiyoi and think he’s a bad person, so when kiyoi says good things about him, he has no option but to believe them, but to believe them means he’s not the person or role he’s set for himself, so the king and servant think falls apart and hira has to face that he’s a human being equal to everyone else. that’s where the whole thing collapses, and that’s why no one else can do that for hira but kiyoi.
the same thing happens! kiyoi being flirty and suggestive only for hira to unknowingly shut it down which makes kiyoi upset. and I love this bit about him not being desperate anymore, bc hira really is so wrapped up in his head thinking kiyoi will abandon him at a moments notice to realise the real reason kiyoi is mad is bc he thinks hira doesn’t like him as much anymore, isn’t desperate, he’s grown accustomed and bored, which is so the opposite. if anything, kiyoi here accidentally fosters that godly worship, like you used to fall at my feet before and do whatever I wanted, what’s changed? And hira easily reassures that’s nothings changed, that he’s exactly that, which keeps them stuck. but the thing is kiyoi almost needs that devotion, needs hira to sacrifice himself to him for him to break down his walls. Kiyoi is the only reason hira can bring himself out of his comfort zone, so he’s simultaneously keeping hira locked in his head but pushing him into the world. it’s interesting, and I can’t wait to see how it turns out, and which one wins over the other
‘I gotta do my best’. I screamed. Again, it’s the crux of why they’re good for each other. Beneath all the panic and anxiety hira is feeling, what pushes him through is I’ve gotta do my best. Why? For kiyoi of course. He has to do his best so kiyoi doesn’t look bad, bc kiyoi brought him here so he doesn’t want to disappoint him. As I said, it’s his devotion to kiyoi that gives him the courage to go out of his comfort zone.
What’s great about this scene is how they characterise this woman and what she says, how she comes onto hira. It’s almost like she voices all the worries hira would have in a social situation like this, ‘you made them mad, they don’t like you, you were rude’. And then she tries to pretend she understands, that that’s what makes them similar. But it’s not true, no one thinks that, and Hira isn’t like that at all. she comes onto him with falsity, which is a great parallel for Kiyoi, who does understand, who gets him, and knows him. She voices everything Hira would think about himself while Kiyoi is the one encouraging him, complimenting him, trying to make him think better of himself. The way he does it is more hostile to the naked eye, but the intention, the meaning is anything put.
Hira is right. Kiyoi is about to murder someone. It’s just not him.
Also again it’s classic nonsensical hira to see Kiyoi get jealous and possessive and think oh god he’s gonna leave me.
I’m sorry, I just love pouty Kiyoi stamping through the house with Hira rushing after him. He’s a baby. I love him.
And then when they talk about it, Hira believes that woman, bc of course he would, bc it’s what he believes of himself. And to see Kiyoi, that is so mad with his possessiveness, and mad that Hira doesn’t get it, still try to correct him, even reassure him that he is wrong, he wasn’t out of place. It’s like he’s doubly mad that the woman came onto him and that she made him think like that, or even triply mad that Hira believed her and cared what she thought. She shouldn’t matter, he matters, how he feels seeing a woman coming onto hira matters, but hira doesn’t think about that bc he doesn’t see himself as important, let alone someone that could affect kiyoi’s feelings that much. I can see why it’s maddening for Kiyoi, to care and want to get mad while hira just doesn’t get it, knowing it’s bc he thinks so little of himself. how can you be mad when it’s not someone’s fault they lack self worth? agh it all just stacks on top of each other and I can’t wait to see them unravel it all.
And I kinda love that it’s not even possible for Hira to think of himself as someone that can flirt, or someone that can even be come on to. It’s like Kiyoi wants Hira to be himself and be confident, so he dresses him up to make him look cool, then he gets flirted with and he instantly regrets it. He simultaneously wants to show him off but keep him to himself, which is fantastic bc Hira just sees himself as a burden or a stain on the kings image. It’s impossible for kiyoi to think of him like that but he does and he just has to figure out how to compute that.
This. MOMENT. Kiyoi just saying ‘I went a bit far yesterday’. Like… idk that just really gets to me. Bc I so see where he’s coming from, I see how he can be frustrated with Hira, and he has every right to feel what he feels, he can be jealous and possessive, that happens in relationships. yes, it’s classic Kiyoi, so of course everything is more dramatic, but the fact he has the heart, the guilt, the maturity to admit that he went too far, I just love him for that. His patience with Hira is something I so appreciate, bc it comes from a place of such love and care. Hira is someone hard to be patient with. He has a lot to overcome, especially in terms of how he views their relationship. Kiyoi does too, but the fact he says this shows he’s consciously taking steps to be better. His feelings can be a lot sometimes and they don’t always manifest well, but recognizing that is such progress for him, and it’s the first sign of real maturity in their relationship. It’s what makes me love them and this show. The mess, the dramatics, all of it, it’s not for show, it’s not to heighten, instead it has this basis that grounds it of two people struggling and learning to express their feelings, and at least one of them now acknowledges that struggle. And I’m so proud of Kiyoi for that.
And when he says ‘I get weird when it’s about you’. Yeah. That’s kiyoi language for ‘I care about you’. Plain and simple. Bc what’s evident is that nothing can send Kiyoi into madness like Hira can, Hira himself or anything concerning or to do with Hira. And it’s bc he cares. It’s bc he loves him. It’s the old ‘ppl act crazy when they’re in love’, i just think Kiyoi is still getting to grips with just how huge and deep his feelings for Hira are.
Oh, and another thought about the moon thing. Maybe it’s not about what’s missing, maybe it’s about Hira feeling like he’s always on the edge of something complete, like just before a full moon. But he stays connected to screens and pictures and cameras and still images, when in fact life is moving around him, and the moon is already full.
Or as Hira says ‘I love him so much, it’s never enough’. Maybe that’s the basis of his construction of Kiyoi comes from, someone so deserving of love that he can’t possibly give it all himself, he’s not capable of giving him all the love he deserves, it’s too much. But again, just like how he’s stuck in the image, in the real world, his love is enough, it’s more than enough, it’s all Kiyoi needs. Just him, the full moon.
And we see that Kiyoi is getting through. Hira says ‘you’re teaching me things about myself I never knew’. Hira really is finding himself. And with any discovery, you kinda have to go on the long, messy journey before you get there. I just love that this scene acknowledges that within that mess, there’s progress being made.
And right there at the end. Kiyoi’s fear of being alone. But the thing is it’s not about Hira being a lifeline or that single person. Kiyoi has always been surrounded by people that gravitate towards him, he’s naturally popular, yet he’s always still felt lonely. But what makes him act weird, what’s foreign and new for him, is that with Hira, he’s not lonely anymore. He’s never cared about who was or wasn’t there, but he cares when it’s Hira. He needs him, specifically, to be by his side. The one that, somehow, for some reason, quenches the loneliness. Where everyone else gives him unfounded, excessive love and praise, it’s not that he cares about, it’s love from Hira he wants. And he wants it less almost, doesn’t want that unfounded devotion, he wants real love, not another fan or blind follower, but a friend, a partner, a lover.
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