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Norman on Emily’s Podcast

Okay, I said I’d do a writeup about Emily’s podcast, on which Norman was a guest. So, here it is.

So, the first thing I’ll say is that, over the course of the interview, especially in the stories they both told, they mentioned lots of things that COULD be interpreted as TD symbols. I highly doubt that’s what they’re all meant to be. So, for example, they talked about hummingbirds. Norman recently posted a hummingbird on his IG and Emily said she saw it and that’s a spiritual symbol for her.

Now, hummingbirds, specifically, aren’t something we’ve seen in the show that I can recall, but birds in general are and birds are heavily associated with Beth. So we technically COULD point to that as a symbol.

But is it really? Or is it just coincidental to the story they were telling? Probably the latter. You get the idea.

So there are just a couple of things I thought felt like they were purposely brought up or inserted into the interview that have to do with TD. But they talk about a lot of other things that could be, but I don’t want to go to overboard in reading into this interview.

First, there’s the picture Emily used to promote the podcast. It’s obviously from Coda, and reminds us of all things Coda and Bethyl. That in itself is just another way promotion/reminder of her character and story line, and we all know we’ve gotten hundreds of these in the past year or so.

But even more telling is that she used this picture at all. It’s never been seen before, one of Emily’s personal pics, and she used it to announce that he’d be on the podcast. If you look back at other former castmates she’s had on—like Lauren—she didn’t use a personal pic from the set like this to promote it. This is the only time I can think of that she’s done this. Hmm.

As to the content of their conversation, the first one that jumps out at me is how they mentioned animals. Norman talked about how there are so many monkeys where he lives. That alone I wouldn’t have latched onto, but just keep in mind that he talked about it extensively and kept mentioning it.

Then, a little later in the convo, they were talking about how Norman is always creating things and Emily said she admired that because it always takes a little longer for her creation process, to get her vision straight in her head. And she said—exact words, guys—“I’m more like a turtle.”

Not only are turtles and monkeys both symbols we’ve seen associated with Beth/TD in the show, but Emily’s song that was featured in the show this past season was called The Turtle and the Monkey. Not. A. Coincidence.

And let’s not forget that on the night they filmed the missing scenes from S5, Emily posted a monkey picture on her account. (X) Yeah, most definitely a hint toward TWD.

That was probably the biggest, most definitive thing.

The second big thing is that they talked about Norman making an album. He said it’s more spoken word than him actually singing and he didn’t write any of it like Emily does hers, but still. I get that this is something Norman actually did, but I felt like they talked about it purposefully and extensively. I just couldn’t help but think about Daryl’s “I ain’t never sang out in public” reference.

Similarly, he talked about a book he’s written. And again, this is something real, so maybe take this with a grain of salt. Norman said it’s a collection of different stories of people trying to find themselves that all intersect.

Okay, cool. But the ones he mentioned and chose to talk about all had interesting ties to TWD in them. He talked about a man who’d LOST HIS WIFE and had to run away. I think it was that same man who put on MUSIC on the street and just started dancing. And then there were kids who jumped TRAINS.

See what I mean? Maybe I’m reading too much into it. If so, I can accept that. These symbols just kept catching my ear as I listened.

Closer to the end, Norman kind of randomly brought up his mom’s dog. And then he talked about meeting a guy in an igloo (snow reference) and they talked about different musical groups. They kept mentioning ones with “dinosaur” and “lizard” in the titles. The dinosaur is still something of a mysterious symbol for us, but it’s there.

And finally, just before they ended, Emily brought up the TWD family. Again, I probably wouldn’t have read much into this one except for the way in which she brought it up. If you listen, it sounds like they’re going to sign off. She starts thanking him for being on the podcast and saying how much fun it was to catch up, and then she kind of goes, “oh, you know…” and launches into this discussion about her relationship with the TWD family.

So, it almost felt to me like she just about forgot to bring this up, and then remembered. And that may be something or nothing, but it just made it feel like she really wanted to include this in the podcast and it had been planned.

And what did she say about it?

She talked about how when she first left the show, she wanted to move onto other projects and kind of shed her TWD identity. But then she said, after a year or a few years, she’d sort of come back to it and was embracing it again.

Think about that. A discussion about leaving her TWD family and then, after a few years, returning to it. I’m just saying.

A few other symbols you can take or leave: the butterfly coffee (butterflies at the prison in the mural), honey (Dwight’s wife’s nickname), Emily saying she’s become more spiritual over the past 5-6 years (she’s been gone from the show for 5 seasons and 6 years), etc.

So yeah. That’s pretty much what I have. Again, it’s very possible not all of these were meant as TWD symbols and were simply personal stories. If that’s the case, cool. You guys know I just can’t help but have my TD cap on all the time. 😉

But given how much promo there’s been for her lately, and that PICTURE she used to promote it, I think at least a few of these were purposefully talked about.

But putting all this aside, it was an adorable interview and a really fun conversation to listen to. I thought they were both great on it and I really loved it.

Thoughts?

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