#I've always felt like this abt Fat Jim posts but it just bothers me more now that my bros tell me how much fat shaming guys experience

[narcissusneverknewme]

I love that people are against depicting Jim as skinnier than he was, but

I think we're missing the point here. Jim is not fat, and that's the point. James T. Kirk is fit, agile, and athletic; our standards for men have just gotten a lot worse :(

Jim doesn't need the body of Chris Hemsworth to be beautiful (bc let's all agree Mr. Kirk is a lovely man), but Chris Hemsworth does not need the body of Chris Hemsworth either. The idea that a single ounce of fat, carried anywhere on the body, makes a person Fat is insane. If you met Jim on the street instead of the screen you would think him of average build, somewhat muscular.

As an older man when he is a bit heavier and has gained some weight he is, for his age, a man of average build, somewhat muscular.

I have never seen a picture or video of him where he appears chubby for a human person. Maybe for a bodybuilder, which is what we seem to have decided actors all have to be.

I just feel like it isn't actually body positive to call someone who wasn't even chubby a fat man

Fewer actors should be on celery-and-tuna-only diets, not just women but men (and especially children!!!) too. They shouldn't be working out for 5+ hours daily and actors who are should be the exception not the freaking rule.

Now, you're fully welcome to draw/write him fat! It's totally ok to imagine your fav character gaining weight. It's just that we should recognize that he was not in fact fat during TOS and wasn't chubby for his age in the movies.

I just hate the idea of people seeing comments - as loving and well meant as they are- calling young Bill Shatner fat. Bc when they compare Jim to themselves, most people (and all fat people) are going to find themselves less athletic than he is.

Tl;dr : Jim is not fat. Please support fat people by not calling Jim, a very fit man, fat. It's bizarre, unhelpful, and unhealthy.

#star trek original series #star trek #jim kirk #fat #as someone whose has low self esteem since i can recall i can tell ya #most of the stuff ppl say that's meant to be helpful or nice for ugly/fat/shy/awkward people #it almost always makes you feel worse #bad body positivity is worse than no body positivity #bc at least of you said nothing I wouldn't be feeling worse abt myself atm #the jim thing doesn't hurt me personally btw bc I've never compared my body to mans at all #I just have brethren by law and a young nephew now so I've been paying more attention to male-focused sides of issues like this #I've always felt like this abt Fat Jim posts but it just bothers me more now that my bros tell me how much fat shaming guys experience #I guess that's gotten a lot worse in the last few decades #again pls don't think this is an attack against Jim being depicted as fat #it's just talking about him in the contexts of the show as already being fat that is a problem #he is fat of ass and of heart tho and his thick thighs have literally saved lives #i would never claim otherwise