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#Izaya and welcome to the Internet is literally him
xox-hitorabu-xox · 7 years
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|| I’d just like to say that ENTP(NeTiFeSi)s may often come off as loners, but in truth, they NEED other people to bounce their ideas off of, ideas to discover, things to observe(whether they use the internet to do such a thing or not), unlike INTJ(NiTeFiSe)s who thrive in solitude, and can remain off the internet and to themselves in their rooms for months, and be absolutely fine. As an ENTP, I can stay to myself for a long time, but will most definitely get ansy if I have no connection to the outer world whatsoever(and I do crave see other people discuss ideas. Too much introversion can be harmful for Izaya, considering how he punched a telephone pole when he was left to think for himself too long. He’s really good at denying feelings which is in relation to inferior Si. For instance, this scene from novel 4 also:
——— Shinjuku lay itself bare before his eyes as Izaya began to think to himself.
-Peaceful everyday life is something I decided I could do without since long ago.Though it’s far from necessary for me, I do understand why it’s desirable for most people.
Izaya, jealous of the other participants of the chatroom who seemed to be enjoying the peace of their lives, felt like he was jealous of the city Ikebukuro itself as he looked up at the sky through the window. ———- Despite being jealous, he still tried to deny that he wasn’t. He also understands that when he acts on a high mood, things never turn out well, but even so he still acts impulsive sometimes, and he just can’t stop. When things bottle up, and Izaya gets angry, he often gets rather reckless.(And as the narrator, he even admits, “I understand that if I take action when my mood is high, it won’t turn out well for me in the end. Although there are many times I cannot control myself and lead myself into terrible situations.”) Namie says something like “People often say the only ones who can kill are those prepared to be killed, but Izaya was the kind of man who was ready to be killed just to punch somebody in the face.”
Sure, novel 9 says that Izaya thought being left out was natural, and that he didn’t really mind, but that’s more likely a reflection on not having any friends or proper emotional support, because it also says, “He liked this place called ‘school’ where time was spent in groups.”
This scene from Durarara!! Light Novel 11(translation by Mizaya) shows Izaya’s mental extraversion(I will bold the important parts):
——– After getting a checkup at the hospital, Izaya was walking down the street trying to see what was going on in the city.
Although a couple of members of Dragon Zombie were following him in the distance, if he were attacked by a hostile group, it would be lethal.
However, Izaya was smiling as if he were enjoying such a thrill.
The results of the MRI and CT scan proved that his brain is neither damaged nor bleeding even though there is a scar on the surface of his skin. 
Actually the reason why Izaya was in such a good mood was not because he was in good health.
But there was no sign of any abnormality in my brain at all.
That means my personality is not a creation by anyone but myself.
While he was thinking those things, Izaya remembered an incident before his checkup — the conversation with the “otherworldly creature” called Sonohara Anri.
What would happen if Karisawa hadn’t taken care of the scene?
Would I have been attacked by Anri? Or would Anri’s mind break before that could happen?
Izaya cannot help but to find it amusing even though he had confronted the otherworldly creature that hurts humans. However, the reason why he found it amusing was not because of Anri’s otherworldliness but Karisawa saying she was friends with Anri.
Aa, as I expected, Karisawa-san and Yumasaki-kun are interesting.
I can’t help but to enjoy this world thanks to humans like them.
Izaya further thinks about it while chuckling.
But what would happen if most humans on the earth accept otherworldly creatures like they do?
If the world accepted these otherworldly creatures living a normal life, would I be able to observe these otherworldly creatures in the same way I do to humans?
It is certain that I have hatred towards “people who stop being human” like Sonohara Anri.
However, I am hardly interested in Celty Sturluson except for her “head”.
Izaya’s only interests are all humans and the afterlife.
If being dead means emptiness, there is nothing sadder for Izaya. That is because he will no longer be able to observe humans.
Even if after death people couldn’t do anything for eternity, if it were possible to become a spirit, that would be like heaven for Izaya.
That is the best finale for me.
However, the existence of Celty Sturluson showed Izaya new value.
He never believed in heaven or hell although spirits existed. After only reviewing the difference of beliefs of the afterlife for various cultures, he came to realise that there is no such standardised “new world” that continues from this life.
However, Dullahans just like the legend have been existing in this city of Ikebukuro.
Assuming that she is an authentic otherworldly creature, like the legend —- there might be a battlefield called “Valhalla” as per Norse mythology or “Heaven” or “Hell”.
It’s not like Izaya wants to go to heaven by himself. 
If there is only heaven and hell, I am aware that I’d most likely go to hell.
What he is hoping is to be able to see how those humans that became spirits or souls behave in the “consecutive world”.
If I told the suicidal spirits that were hoping to see “emptiness”, “It’s too bad, your belief is incorrect. Your consciousness and suffering will continue forever,” what kind of reaction would they show me?
If I told humans who were killed by the death penalty and believe that it’s the same if you kill one person or massacre thousands, “It’s too bad but it’s not the same,” what kind of face would they show me?
On the other hand, if I told a dead person who didn’t want to leave their family behind and died with fear, “Congratulations, you can keep an eye on your family,” what kind of expression would they show me? How long would they keep watching their family? One year? Two years? Ten years? Forever? Or would they get bored in a few hours once they knew that they could see them anytime?
The world of the afterlife is unknown to anyone.
How would humans who are pushed into such an unknown world think? How would they behave?
He was in a state of ecstasy by imagining these human’s reactions, like a daydreaming child.
Izaya took out his cell phone, trying to search the internet for information on the movement of these police cars while daydreaming and smiling.
Suddenly, the cell phone vibrated and brought him completely back to reality. ———
There, he is considering a whole bunch of whatif scenarios of the external world, of possibilities, to the point of fanatsizing about it(both ENTPs and INTJs have been known to be in their heads a lot, but it is for different reasons.)
That aside, there’s something else I’d like to mention. INTJs also tend to plan everything out more thoroughly, whereas an ENTP is liable to not be too thorough with their planning. From my own experience, I can organize things if I really want to, but I’m honestly too lazy to stick with many things a lot of the time, unless it’s something I’m interested in and am enthusiastic about in which I’ll go above and beyond to express my enthusiasm. But when I don’t have the interest, sorry to the hundreds of people that were following me, I just lost interest and probably won’t ever be back. I will very often completely abandon projects, if I get bored or just lose inspiration. There are very few things I’m that enthusiastic about and those few things make me more happy than I could ever imagine(to the point of it being unhealthy in a way..) Also, I don’t know if I’m the only ENTP like this, but there are also very few things I feel that strongly about. I do have ticks and such(like people not giving me space to be flexible, or people not seeing all possibilities, or others being really closed-minded, and when people don’t welcome creativity, or especially people giving me rules that don’t make sense or seem arbitrary.), but I tend to be flexible to a fault, not wanting to take true sides on things(I bet a sound like a hypocrite, don’t I…? I guess it’s because I expect people to be as open-minded as I am, but if everybody was, this world would most certainly be doomed.). Being the most introverted of the extroverts, it’s also understandable that one would see me as introvert, as I didn’t really interact with people too much back in school during free time, though I would often end up dragged off by kids to eat lunch with them, before being forgotten again in a sense afterwardlike literally not noticed sometimes while others thought I was a little odd, but still ‘nice’, and they found my art skills astounding which was quite amusing and made me feel some what significant as I loved to charm people and recieve praise and feedback just like I crave questions from anons and comments on my posts, but it was fine because sometimes I prefered to sit back a little and observe. But that aside, INTJs and ENTPs often can also seem a lot alike on the outside, but down deep, the direction in which they process information is the exact opposite.
I also think Izaya’s bluntness and harsh way with words isn’t because he is INTJ, but because he is an ENTP with an unhealthy and underdeveloped Fe, due to lack of emotional nurturing from his parents and positive people.
I asked Funkymbtifiction, “could an unhealthy ENTP have an underdeveloped Fe? And how could such a thing effect them?” and this is what they said: —– Under developed Fe means one of two things:
1) You’re a jackass to everyone about everything, because you fail to realize that people’s feelings are valid, as are yours, and that you need to care how they feel, in order to win friends and influence people
2) You’re so “needy” that you must have everyone think you’re the smartest person in the room, all the time, and become insufferable; you spend a great deal of time trying to impress others, sometimes over-worrying that you insulted them, or through expressing your own emotions in awkward ways at the wrong time.
Healthy tert-Fe means: hey, we’re all good here, let’s have some fun, I talk, you talk, we share the floor, nobody gets too upset, how’s that sound?
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Here are some things Shinra has said about Izaya:
“What those so-called ‘prophets’ are good at is in fact just exaggerating rumors to frighten people. Though, I’m not saying there are no real prophets among them. For instance…consider Izaya. He’s sort of like a prophet isn’t he? Isn’t he always saying mysterious things as if he could read your mind? He’ll appear like a ghost everytime something happens, and act as if everything’s happening the exact way he had expected, but he is actually as clueless as everyone else beforehand. Everything is obvious with the benefit of hindsight. Just like those self-proclaimed prophets, all he does is talk about things that have already happened as if he had expected them long in advance.” - Novel 5
“If Izaya were to debut as a prophet on television, he’d get pretty high ratings. Of course, when his following has reached a certain size, he would probably get tired of it, toss out a big prophecy such as “Japan is going to be submerged” and simply disappear into the commotion it would cause.” - Novel 5
“Just because he outwardly does work with the layout of human lives, he doesn’t like managing all other people’s lives. He’ll manipulate events from behind the scenes, but he’s not that assertive kind of man.
Although, no matter the result he would happily accept it with a face that ‘it was all according to my calculations.’
And everyone gets easily fooled by that.
He sees through all that. Everything up until now was in the palm of his hand.
They misunderstand that and despair arbitrarily. He enjoys seeing those expressions on people.
Only looking at his personality, he would only be an ’evil spirit,’ a ‘mysterious existence the world has not seen.’
I wonder if there are people who remember him with those sort of images. In actuality, it’s not impossible mistake him as such.
I want you to try and imagine it.
The man who suddenly appeared in front of you knows more about you than you yourself.
That fact in regards to the field of information should make him be called someone with an ‘adaptability’ or perhaps someone ‘broad minded and free in disposition.’ If it is something connected with life and death rather than being broad-minded then it is the ‘power of life and death,’ but anyway, if there is a human has been troubled by him, Izaya Orihara has that type of image.” - A Standing Ovation With Orihara Izaya (translation by Kaedesan721)
I think way too many people want to look at the stereotypes, don’t know the entire definition of introversion and extraverts.
Well, here’s a thought in regards to the ENTJs:
ENTJs can be a better leader in the sense that they enjoy the process of managing people and things and getting jobs done. ENTPs, on the other hand, only like to introduce ideas to the mass, whether or not things get finished is of second concern.
ENTJs can be said to be a little more stable and reliable in being a leader of a group. ENTPs are more or less like a wild card, or a black horse if you like.
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ENTPs are inspired innovators, motivated to find new solutions to intellectually challenging problems. They are curious and clever, and seek to comprehend the people, systems, and principles that surround them. Open-minded and unconventional, Visionaries want to analyze, understand, and influence other people.
ENTPs enjoy playing with ideas and especially like to banter with others. They use their quick wit and command of language to keep the upper hand with other people, often cheerfully poking fun at their habits and eccentricities. While the ENTP enjoys challenging others, in the end they are usually happy to live and let live. They are rarely judgmental, but they may have little patience for people who can’t keep up.
ENTPs are energized by challenge and are often inspired by a problem that others perceive as impossible to solve. They are confident in their ability to think creatively, and may assume that others are too tied to tradition to see a new way. The Visionary relies on their ingenuity to deal with the world around them, and rarely finds preparation necessary. They will often jump into a new situation and trust themselves to adapt as they go.
ENTPs are masters of re-inventing the wheel and often refuse to do a task the same way twice. They question norms and often ignore them altogether. Established procedures are uninspiring to the Visionary, who would much rather try a new method (or two) than go along with the standard.
ENTPs are typically friendly and often charming. They usually want to be seen as clever and may try to impress others with their quick wit and incisive humor. They are curious about the world around them, and want to know how things work. However, for the ENTP, the rules of the universe are made to be broken. They like to find the loopholes and figure out how they can work the system to their advantage. This is not to say the Visionary is malicious: they simply find rules limiting, and believe there is probably a better, faster, or more interesting way to do things that hasn’t been thought of before.
The ENTP is characteristically entrepreneurial and may be quick to share a new business idea or invention. They are creative, and typically excited to discuss their many ingenious ideas. The ENTP’s enthusiasm for innovation is infectious, and they are often good at getting other people on board with their schemes. However, they are fundamentally “big-picture” people, and may be at a loss when it comes to recalling or describing details. They are typically more excited about exploring a concept than they are about making it reality, and can seem unreliable if they don’t follow through with their many ideas.
“ENTPs tend to be independent, analytical, and impersonal in their relations with people, and they are more apt to consider how others may affect their projects than how their projects may affect others.” – Isabel Briggs Meyers
- https://www.truity.com/personality-type/entp
And for Izaya to say, “I honestly can’t even read my next move. In the end, what I want to see is humans other than myself. How they react in the situation that cannot be expected, to observe that is the biggest motive of my life. In order to achieve that, I will both cause trouble and help as much as I can.” That sounds like what an Extravert would say and do. If an INTJ didn’t know what they were going to do in a situation, they would most likely take a step back and self reflect on the numerous things they could do, and pull back to themselves for a while, instead of letting things escalate. A lot of Izaya’s schemes are extremely spontaneous and all over the place, and there’s always certain level of uncertainty and spontaneity in them in my opinion. I think personally that the INTJ thinks far more ahead for their own plans than the ENTP who considers other people’s possible positions, but they tend to ignore their own physical needs sometimes and get themselves into reckless situations for whatever reasons.
Perhaps… a way to look at it. (not that I like the stigma attached to these types, but) if we’re talking about ‘bad’ INTJs and ‘bad’ ENTPs, bad INTJs are the Machiavellian genius types that come up with intricate plans to take over the world, whereas bad ENTPs often just like messing with people’s heads for shits and giggles. A bad ENTP is less dangerous in the fact that he's very unlikely to pull off enslaving all of humanity, or even be inclined that way. We lack the discretion and self-control to do so. The Joker (bar Heath Ledger’s Joker – that one was ENTJ) is a perfect example of ENTP gone horribly, horribly wrong, while Batman would be a good INTJ).
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