#Jack Horner

[animatorrader]

Funny little doodle.

#big jack horner #jack horner #puss in boots #puss in boots the last wish #puss in boots 2 #dreamworks fanart #dreamworks #fanart #myart #sketch #ethical bug #i want the bug to say the **** word

[ganglemanva]

man this scene from puss in boots the last wish goes so hard

#pussinbccts #puss in boots #jack horner #meme #wwe 2k22

[swanpit]

so something i just noticed today, looking back :  you know lots of animated characters, they can get very animated with their hand gestures, in puss in boots the last wish, it’s no exception, we saw various character doing it except somehow, this guy

like he got lots of long dialogue shots but very rarely i saw his face and his free, empty hand doing whatever on the same frame? also some examples below under readmore so it’ll be a long post

meanwhile with other characters, it's business as usual

but i also noticed that his hands seems to do more movement/gesturings when he's holding an object, like the mug/coins/mainly his weapons

yeah so interesting detail that separate him from others there but i'm still not sure if this is more just for personality trait (as in the lack of hand gesturing isnt bad because in this case it's supposed to be something in character with him) or if there's deeper meaning i'm started to think about this because when i was drawing him sometimes i was thinking what pose i should give him when he's talking and i was like....huh have he ever done this kind of pose? not even normal people pose you see often other people/characters do?  especially the ones you saw during conversations?

 and turns out, he never did. 

 so yeah, that was a "huh" moment right there

#puss in boots 2 #puss in boots the last wish #puss in boots death #puss in boots wolf #kitty softpaws #perrito #jack horner #goldilocks puss in boots #goldilocks and the three bears #tldr death's whole body language gets more expressive the moment the sickles are out #but at the same time he makes doing normal people pose looks weird

[starleska]

i think ‘Big’ Jack Horner is Disney, and here’s why

many of us have had the pleasure of seeing the incredible Puss in Boots: The Last Wish by now, and were blown away by its clever writing, enchanting animation and emotional character arcs. yet there is one character who booted the trend of having a reason for his behaviour, and outright refused to experience any growth whatsoever.

let’s talk about ‘Big’ Jack Horner, and why i think he’s supposed to represent Disney:

‘Big’ Jack Horner isn’t just an antagonist in The Last Wish - he’s a villain. a self-obsessed, exploitative, murderous, petty, cruel bastard of a man whose awful behaviour isn’t just motivated by personal slights or childhood trauma: he sincerely enjoys hurting other people. whether it’s cheating his goons (’The Serpent Sisters’) out of a fair payment for their services or being excited about shooting a puppy in the face, there’s no denying that Jack delights in causing others pain and suffering. but what does he have to do with Disney?

let’s answer that question with another question: do you think that Jack, when placed next to the other antagonists - Goldi, The Three Bears, even Death - sticks out like a sore, plum-coloured thumb?

of course he does! but why? well, let’s look at Jack on a surface level. Jack is a monolith of a human being. not only is he physically huge and intimidating, he is the inheritor of an enormous pastry fortune and operates in the manner of a mob boss, with countless resources and a whole variety of powerful magical items at his disposal. indeed, Jack employs a crack team of bakers/assassins called ‘The Baker’s Dozen’ to carry out many of his tasks. although Jack does harm others himself, it is because of these resources - including the people who work for him - that he is able to bypass many of the obstacles faced by our protagonists in an honest and character-developing way (e.g., the Pocket Full O’Posies in The Dark Forest). Jack doesn’t need to have a character arc the way the other characters do, because he is so wealthy and owns so much.

but Jack’s reason for owning so much and being obsessed with magic and magical items isn’t through intellectual curiosity, or a traumatic backstory where he needed to learn how to wield magic. do you know what Jack’s covert motivation for owning all of the magic in the world is?

it’s money.

when we get the flashback of Jack’s childhood, dancing for the entertainment of an audience using his nursery rhyme, we see him becoming jealous of Pinocchio - and we see Gepetto in the back, absolutely raking in the cash. if we consider this flashback as that crucial moment within which Jack decided to become what he is today - and the presence of our off-brand Jiminy Cricket inclines us to think so - then we can understand that Jack decided that from that moment forward, he would own all of the magic. 

let’s go back to The Baker’s Dozen for a moment. this team of highly-competent, multidisciplinary artisans do everything for Jack, whether it’s baking the pies which make him rich, or laying down their lives at his service. we aren’t given an in-universe reason for why they do this. yes, Jack is feared, but he is still the subject of mockery due to his humble beginnings as a nursery rhyme character. it certainly isn’t due to being treated or paid well. however, if we view the Baker’s Dozen as a metaphor for overworked, exploited artists whose views are routinely dismissed by the money-hungry, powerful corporation who owns their craft...things start to add up, don’t they? considering historic allegations of worker abuse at the hands of Disney, having Jack Horner literally step on their spines and encourage them to flex takes on a whole different meaning. 

it doesn’t end there. do you recognise the items that Jack pulls out of his Mary Poppins bag when his Baker’s Dozen are being destroyed by the Pocket Full O’Posies - the items that he calls ‘the big guns’? it’s the broomstick from Fantasia, the spinning wheel from Sleeping Beauty, the size snacks from Alice in Wonderland, and a knock-off Jiminy Cricket from Pinocchio - all references to some of Disney’s earliest and most famous films.

still don’t believe me? well, let’s recap more of the items Jack has in his repertoire:

a hook-hand (referencing Captain Hook in Peter Pan)

a trident (referencing King Triton in The Little Mermaid)

poison apple bombs (referencing The Evil Queen in Snow White)

a glass slipper (again referencing Cinderella)

remember what happens when the knock-off Jiminy Cricket (interesting that there are so many Pinocchio references specifically, huh?) is horrified that Jack is losing so many men? Jack says he isn’t worried about losing the manpower, because he has a bottomless bag full of magical weapons. Jack literally gets his power off of the backs of his workers. sounds a lot like a big company justifying worker layoffs and exploitation because they have so many properties and are too big to fail, doesn’t it? 

hell, Jack doesn’t even know what half of these items do! when he’s using the unicorn horns as ammo, he is surprised that they cause people to explode in a shower of confetti. viewing Jack through this lens, it’s difficult not to think about enormous corporations gobbling up properties and churning out content with little to no regard for their artists (looking back at The Baker’s Dozen - some of whom do perish in the fight with the unicorn horns) or what the properties are about. we haven’t even touched on Jack coveting the Wishing Star, a recurring motif in countless Disney movies as representing magic, dreams, and boundless creativity. 

now, i hear you saying, ‘but Star! why would DreamWorks bother writing their bad guy as a metaphor for Disney?’ believe it or not, this isn’t the first time that DreamWorks have done this. in case you didn’t know, Lord Farquaad is a caricature of Michael Eisner, former chairman and CEO of The Walt Disney Company. the production of Shrek was actually quite troubled; animators who were perceived as having failed on other projects were ‘Shreked’, or sent to work on Shrek, instead of working on other (presumed to be more lucrative) films. of course, DreamWorks was co-founded by previous Disney CEO Jeffrey Katzenberg, hence the animosity towards Disney and its works evident in the Shrek franchise. this is what formed the story of Shrek: an ugly, crude outsider character taking on the clean-cut moralising of a dictator hell-bent on a so-called ‘perfect’ world, all created against the creative backdrop of a painful separation from Disney and a great deal of pent-up rage. 

the irreverent, crass and sometimes adult humour of Shrek was a middle finger to Disney’s high-censorship control on animation. this is why Lord Farquaad (which you may have noticed sounds a bit like ‘Fuckwad’) is so obsessed with Duloc being ‘perfect’, and why he couldn’t stand the freedom of the fairy tale creatures who are the heroes of the first Shrek movie.

in fact, this kind of meta-commentary permeates the Shrek franchise: 

The Fairy Godmother from Shrek 2, despite being a fairy tale creature herself, is highly prejudiced against characters who break out of their perceived social norms: i.e., Shrek marrying Princess Fiona and getting his Happily Ever After. she is an expansion of the control left over by Lord Farquaad, and rich because of her monopolisation of fairy tale creatures and their stories. 

Prince Charming in Shrek the Third fails miserably to capitalise on these themes, but we’ll get back to him! 

Rumpelstiltskin from Shrek Forever After tackles the gluttony of franchise reboots, and how soulless and rooted in corporate greed attempts to reboot often are. whilst not necessarily Disney-specific, Shrek Forever After follows the box office bomb that was Shrek the Third: a movie which noticeably fails to write a compelling narrative approaching any of the themes of the previous two films. the writers learned from their mistakes and wrote a movie which satirised their own selling-out of the franchise, becoming hollow and unnecessary and ‘perfect’ - the very thing they were making fun of in the earlier Shrek films.

there is one more area i’d like to touch on: Jack Horner’s source material. we know that Little Jack Horner is quite obscure: an 18th-century English nursery rhyme involving a boy who pulls a plum out of a pie with his thumb, and congratulates himself for his fortitude. but did you know that from its earliest conception, Little Jack Horner was associated with foolishness and dishonesty?

it’s true: the simple yet inexplicable nature of the poem was lambasted for being infantile, and quickly became the subject of revision, moralisation, and even political satire. it is no mistake that to ‘be under one’s thumb’ (as many of the characters in The Last Wish are to Jack, both literally and figuratively) means to be under one’s decisive control. the choice of Jack Horner for the villain of The Last Wish is a clever one, because we could easily have ended up with a sympathetic Jack, whose ostracisation as ‘not even a fairy tale’ may have led to a justifiable motive, even for his specific brand of cruelty. but instead, the writers of The Last Wish have gone one step further; they’ve transformed a source affiliated with idiocy and deception into a metaphor for a global multimedia conglomerate...all while portraying him as simultaneously terrifying, powerful, and ridiculous. 

it has been over a decade since Shrek Forever After was released, and Disney has changed dramatically in that time. a global giant, Disney now owns more enormous money-making properties than ever thought possible, and consistently capitalises on nostalgia for its early properties to make more money and accumulate power. since breaking out of its exclusive licensing agreement with Disney in 2016, DreamWorks has had no official connection to Disney, making the ground for mockery and satirisation of the company which spawned the studio all the more fertile. ‘Big’ Jack Horner is not just a glamorous return to form for the dreadful, unapologetically evil villain which Disney has eschewed in modern times - he’s a hulking, egocentric monster whose avarice rivals that only of the corporation he’s inspired by. 

and those are my thoughts on ‘Big’ Jack Horner! of course this is by no means the definitive interpretation - we should all just have fun with the movie and come up with whatever theories we like 🥰💖 i’d love to hear your thoughts on him and The Last Wish in general - he’s definitely one of my favourite bad guys to be released in the past few years!

thanks so much for reading, and have yourselves a wonderful day 🥰

#big jack horner #jack horner #puss in boots: the last wish #puss in boots #shrek #disney #puss in boots: the last wish spoilers #starleskatalks

[snovyda]

I have seen a lot of reviews for Puss in Boots: The Last Wish mention Jack Horner in the context of how refreshing it was to get a villain who is just bad, for once. Without any tragic backstory or anything.

I think it is actually deeper than just "refreshing" though.

I think that when we contrast him, in particular, with Perrito, who has an incredibly dark and tragic backstory and yet is still kind and caring to the world around him and other people he meets, we get an important message that we don't get enough of: kindness is a choice. And so is cruelty. No tragic backstory should excuse your horrible conscious actions. Your choices and your actions are your responsibility and your alone.

In an era when we have popular characters who commit mass genocide on planetary scales and their actions are somehow excused because their parents had gotten a divorce and their uncle was mean to them once, this is a crucial message to get. And a refreshing one indeed.

#puss in boots the last wish #puss in boots spoilers #puss in boots #jack horner #perrito

[illusioncanthurtme--art]

MR. MAGENTA HIMSELF!!! 💜🥧💜

Another sticker in the works. I drew this maybe a month ago, and just recently added the plums to the bottom, and colored it. I kind of surprised with how much I like this! I think he looks really good. He's kind of got Chef Gusteau vibes from ratatouille, when he's the illustration in the book smelling the cake. Except evil lol :'D

#jack horner #puss in boots #puss in boots the last wish #puss in boots fanart #jack horner fanart #puss in boots jack horner #jack horner puss in boots #traditional art #traditional illustration #traditional drawing #digital art #multimedia #art stickers #stickers

[lilith-91]

Everyone: fighting and trying to not get into the vaporizing barrier

Death:

#puss in boots #puss in boots the last wish #death puss in boots #puss in boots death #the last wish #lobo puss in boots #bitch please #he was like #lol watch me #the bear family #jack horner #perrito #kitty softpaws #death wolf

[nevertoomanyspiders]

inspired by this and this.

#doodles #comics #puss in boots #big jack horner #jack horner #jack horner having a ''i can't believe i ate the whole thing'' moment

[maddisandy]

we need to talk about jack horner

y'know, since everyone is here.

i think there's something to be said about the new puss in boots movie that i haven't seen discussed yet and thats the real big bad, little jack horner. the found family and mortality and mental health discussion is wonderful but i just gotta bring attention to the antagonist for a second.

it's the fact for me that the movie didn't rely on the tragic villain trope for him at all. so much so they didn't even leave room for doubt, they directly stated he had a loving family, grew up in a mansion, and inherited his family's business.

it is such a breath of fresh air to one, not have trauma seen as an excuse or a cause for evil. but two, it's also a good wake up call to some real existing people in our world. to show that someone could have everything they could ever need and more and yet they can't stop until they have all the power in the world.

ring any bells? a couple billionaires out in the world? yeah i thought so. it feels like the biggering of the lorax we didn't get years ago but finally get now. and in a time where callouts like this are needed most

thank you dreamworks for literally everything about the last wish because god i am going to be brain rotted over this for quite awhile. there are so many things that can be discussed and not enough air in my lungs to say all of them.

#puss in boots #puss in boots the last wish #the last wish #puss in boots last wish #puss in boots spoilers #jack horner #jack horner puss in boots

[jorongbak]

This is how I remember Namek saga now

And throwing Death in it can maybe explain that scene

I guess Frieza and Jack Horner have a lot in common:

they are both purple crazy villains who know very well that they are evil, don't care they are evil and have so much fun living their merry evil lives destroying everyone else's... and they are also both looking for the thing that grants wishes

#frieza #goku #vegeta #jack horner #death the wolf #dragon ball z #dragon ball #dbz #dbs #puss in boots #puss in boots: the last wish #puss in boots the last wish

[punster-2319]

Has this been done yet?

#oscars 2023 #oscars #best animated feature film #guillermo del toro’s pinocchio #netflix #puss in boots: the last wish #pinocchio #jack horner #disney #pixar

[thehmn]

Look! I thought of the worst ship ever! I was incredibly uncomfortable while drawing it but my housemate’s horrified face and loud “No!” every time I showed her my progress made it all worth it and I hope you will experience the same joy by exposing unsuspecting victims you love very much to it.

#it would never work #they’re too selfish #cut they’d probably have fun being unapologetic villains together #for a short time #shrek #big jack horner #jack horner #lord farquaad #puss in boots the last wish #jacquaard

[one-time-i-dreamt]

The main characters of The Golden Girls were hanging out with Jack Horner from Puss in Boots: The Last Wish.

And in that dream Jack was Dorothy’s nephew.

#dream #text #golden girls #jack horner #puss in boots #the last wish #puss in boots the last wish #queueueueueueueueueueueueueue

[das-sena]

É o Joãozinho de novo, isso mesmo

#puss in boots #puss in boots the last wish #big jack horner #jack horner #jack horner fanart #big jack horner fanart

[illusioncanthurtme--art]

CAN’T BAKE A PIE WITHOUT LOSING A DOZEN MEN! 🎉

I am SO happy to finish this drawing and share it with you!! Some bigass paper was necessary to fit Big Jack Horner in all his glory :’) (and a bigass photoshop document, rip my laptop) Also, I’m planning on making this into prints! I’m working on setting up a store as we speak, and I am super hyped about it!

#jack horner #puss in boots #puss in boots the last wish #puss in boots fanart #jack horner fanart #puss in boots jack horner #jack horner puss in boots #traditional art #traditional illustration #traditional drawing #digital art #multimedia

[diabloindigo]

#puss in boots the last wish #puss in boots wolf #goldilocks and the three bears #Death wolf #jack horner #Twitter