#Jon knows nothing

[amber-laughs]

so lyanna brings home from college this platinum blonde twink who got her name tattooed on his arm after the second date but they’re polite about it (not brandon!) like ned thinks maybe it’s just his older brother bias and is trying to see him from lya’s perspective “hmm this guys handsome i guess, he’s older, he’s rich, passionate. sure we’ll give it a go i mean she’s young they’ll break up soon right? right lyanna? RIGHT??” brandon’s disgusted. rhaegar actually went to an adjacent high school that always beat his school’s football team and brandon always thought his instagram poetry was ass. benjen, lyanna’s little pet dog basically, thinks rhaegar’s great and “you guys if you’re gonna date lyanna you should love her enough to get her named tattooed on you” until she brings benjen to one of rhaegar’s open mics and he has to sit there while they make out and listen to 3 songs about sex with his sister. she’s pregnant 3 weeks later btw

#brandon and rhaegar are not allowed to sit next to each other at thanksgiving #ned starts every conversation with ‘how’s jon?’ but come on now… ned knows how jon is. he knows better than rhaegar #lyarra’s all hippie dippie and thinks lyanna knows what she’s doing rickard’s a military man who’s gonna hate whoever lyanna brings home #benjen does NOT babysit. he’s bad at it. #asoiaf crack #valyrianscrolls #rhaegar targaryen #lyanna stark #rhaegar x lyanna #asoiaf #jon snow #ned stark #brandon stark #benjen stark #modern asoiaf #nothing more humiliating than tagging posts #it’s really just begging people to laugh at your jokes

[hazelcallahan]

i don't wanna have any adventures unless they're with you. / i am, and have been for some time, just totally, ridiculously, desperately in love with you.

#willow #willowedit #tanthamore #kit x jade #jade claymore #kit tanthalos #** #y'all mind if i. ahem. #every night in my dreams i see you i feel you that is how i know you go on far across the distance and spaces between us you have come to s #how you go on near far wherever you are i believe that the heart does go on once more you open the door and you're here in my heart and my #heart will go on and on love can touch us one time and last for a lifetime and never let go til we're gone love was when i loved you one t #rue time i hold to in my life we'll always go on near far wherever you are i believe that the heart does go on (why does the heart go on) #once more you open the door and you're here in my heart and my heart will go on and on YOU'RE HERE THERE'S NOTHING I FEAR AND I KNOW THAT M #Y HEART WILL GO ON WE'LL STAY FOREVER THIS WAY YOU ARE SAFE IN MY HEART AND MY HEART WILL GO ON AND ON #ok full disclosure i wrote these tags yesterday before jons tweets #but im keeping them bc i think its silly

[artist-ellen]

Happy Holidays everybody ~ We’re back in ASOIAF redesigns

I finally decided to start sketching House of the Dragon fashion…. Only to realize I hadn’t ever gotten back around to drawing the men of ASoIAF. So here we go! Fingers crossed this challenge can teach me how to draw men… buckle up? There’s a reason I avoided the dudes the first time around… so many legs.

We’re starting all the way back in Winterfell with a young Jon Snow. I’m leaning more into his book description so he’s a little bit of a young beanpole, brown hair, dark grey eyes, long face. A little bit of an Eddard Stark mini me by accident. It’s ‘Summer’ still so he doesn’t have on a ton of outer layers, just the trusty wool layering reminiscent of what his sisters were wearing if you can remember that long ago.

I am the artist! Do not post without permission & credit! Thank you! Come visit me over on: instagram.com/ellenartistic or tiktok: @ellenartistic

#Jon snow #redesigning game of thrones #asoiaf #historically inspired #valyrian scrolls #valyrianscrolls #ellenart #lnart #character design #costume design #digital illustration #redesigning heroes #you know nothing Jon snow #winterfell #winter is coming

[fuckyeahgoodomens]

#good omens #gos2 #season 2 #game of thrones #jon hamm #jon snow #you know nothing jon snow meme #good omens memes #jokes #sorry my brain is half asleep and thought it funny :D

[michaeljoncarter]

To this day, I can never figure out who is Jon and Kon when they're together on panel. Best chance I have is when the artist draws Kon with an open jacket in costume or they draw Jon as old or even older than Clark.

jon is such a crazy character because it's like i don't even know how it's possible for a character to be like this. he's been through the hands of like 12 different people at this point--including some incredibly talented writers & artists--but somehow managed to pick up not a single unique trait in terms of characterization OR design

there's just literally nothing identifiable about him personality-wise or appearance-wise that sets him apart, and in a medium like this that relies so heavily on characters having at least a couple traits that will be instantly recognizable due to the fact that they'll be drawn by a different artist like every other week & their appearance will be in constant flux, if you don't have some sort of through line (or, god forbid, you've made the through line that this character is EXACTLY like an already existing character), they are going to be literally unrecognizable and just make the already often confusing art of figuring out who the fuck is who on a page that much worse

the vast majority of the time, jon is literally only identifiable by the process of elimination. in the son of superman era, you'd have two identical supermans and have to identify which was clark so you could know the other one was jon. and now that that nonsense is blessedly over and they've mostly given up on making him clark 2, he's just "character who is identical to superman but is now wearing a tweaked version of the superman suit instead of the actual thing."

so now you have to look for kon, whose concept & personality are so distinct that he remains identifiable despite the fact that we've now turned every single super-character's design into a watered down ripoff of his, to be able to figure out which one jon is. because he's somehow less visually distinct than the guy whose whole thing is that he's a literal clone

#ask #anonymous #&& for blacklists: #anti jon kent #it's so insaneee ehgbkvnf #sorry for rambling & idek if im making sense but god yeah this has been bothering me so much #the epitome of go girl give us nothing #i know people get annoyed with me bitching about this character all the time but goddd #he's just so bad in every way it's WILD

[detectiveforfree]

supakids

#superfam #supergirl #kara zor el #superboy #kon el kent #jon kent #i know literally nothing about their timeline and relationship with each other i just wanted to draw those three flying ;) #scrambling to finish some doodles ive never finished for this year haaaah #me pounding ground with fist: im so sorry my fast babies. i cant believe i drew supakids together before i drew fastkids together #gotta rectify that haha

[sare11aa11eras]

Actually I think Jon coming to King’s Landing could have been incredible. For various reasons but like. He’d go to the Tourney of the Hand and watch Loras give Sansa a rose and at first he’d be like. Literally whatever. The Hand’s daughter got flowers at the Tourney of the Hand fork spotted in kitchen. But then all his brain alarms would go “!!!! Some southern fucker just gave flowers to a Stark girl at a tourney!!!! I have a working understanding of geopolitics of the last 20 years!!!” And he would Have to go wreck Loras’s shit in the training yard (since obviously Dad Isn’t Allowed To) and they would beat the crap out of each other and Jon would absolutely hiss and snarl at Renly too if he got mad enough and anyways that’s how Jon becomes like attached to Renly and Loras, like they are one shouting match away from becoming a toxic gay throuple of outsider youngest sons, and Ned is watching this sweating bullets waiting for either the Targ-Baratheon Grudge Genes or the Stark-Baratheon Attraction Genes to win out. Arya is highly dubious of everything going on and Sansa just wants people to stop kicking the shit out of each other so she can go back to not paying attention. Renly is trying to figure out whether letting his possible new boyfriend’s?? dad get fucked over by his sister in law is like. going to play well or not.

#asoiaf #valyrianscrolls #vi stop talking #like to be clear nothing about this is cute. they are beating the shit out of each other and it’s getting homoerotic is the thing. #jon snow #loras tyrell #renly baratheon #agot #the tourney of the hand #ned stark #sansa stark #arya stark #asoiaf au #admittedly I don’t know that Jon knows abt the tourney of harrenhal like. literally does he know abt the rose crown???

[longclawshilt]

I really don’t think we should be treating morality as a linear thing in ASOIAF because what often happens is that we start to stray from the actual conversations that we need to be having regarding the depths of making a moral choice and even the circumstances involved. To try and blankly paint any one character as the “most morally good” isn’t really taking us anywhere. And it certainly isn’t helpful when people in this fandom want to try and prove that characters are “grey” but not moral (what does that even mean??) because they did one “bad” thing. If ASOIAF stans were to have their way, then:

Jon is not a morally good person because he threatened Gilly

Dany cannot be considered to be compassionate because she sanctioned torture against the wine seller’s daughters

Arya cant be good because she has killed people

and so on, and so on….

But this is such a draining, and oft times frustrating, conversation to have because you see just how shallow the above listed examples are? Readers are listing only singular instances across a narrative that spans thousand and thousands of pages, and there’s absolutely no context involved. Why did Jon threaten Gilly? Why did Dany resort to torture and at one point did she do it? Who did Arya kill and why? And why do those singular instances negate everything else in their arcs?

What usually happens when we have the 12847647282th unnecessary conversation about who is the “most good” character in ASOIAF is that we start getting blanket statements with no elaboration. And the only people ever considered are Ned, Brienne, and Davos, and sometimes the children like Shireen or Tommen. Mind you, Ned and Davos are not perfect or without their own faults either; much has been said about Ned’s abilities as a father and it’s implied that Davos was not entirely faithful to his wife. And based on her current arc, Brienne will surely have to make morally tough choices regarding oaths and knightly honor. Plus theres the irony of including literal children when they have not been put in situations where they actually have to make morally difficult choices and live with the consequences.

ASOIAF shows us that people who are capable of incredible kindness and compassion are also capable of doing unpleasant things.

Jon threatened Gilly….because he was trying to save another child whom he believed to be at risk of human sacrifice(!!) and was stuck between a rock and a hard place. But why does that singular instance negate the fact that his arc has been about him standing up for the “lesser than”? Why does that negate the fact that he stood up for Sam against a superior when there was nothing to gain for him? Why does it negate the fact that he went out of his way to equip Arya in a way that society would have deemed inappropriate? Why does it negate the fact that he dedicated the entirety of his time as Lord Commander to fight an institution that had upheld racism/xenophobia for millennia? Why should we filter out all those moments of kindness, compassion, and deep empathy that Jon has even without him thinking?

Dany sanctioned torture….but she was trying to solve the murder of an innocent victim AND this brought her no joy. But why does that negate the fact that when she gained unimaginable power, she could’ve high tailed to Westeros to use it to her benefit and become queen, but instead chose to stay in Essos where she has no personal responsibility just so she could fight the institutional evil that is slavery? Why does it negate Dany who went to personally treat plague victims at great risk to herself?

Arya has killed some….but it’s in self defense or in defense of others who are disenfranchised. But why does this negate that she is one of the few people in the series how goes out of her way to show kindness and friendship to those who are not as economically or politically advantaged as she is (e.g., Mycah)? Why does it negate that she took fellow slaves under her protection when she herself had little power to fight for her own survival at Harrenhall? Why does it negate that when she saw those caged soldiers whom she was angry with for their actions, instead of leaving them to die instead offered them the only kindness she could at the moment: a drink of water?

Trying to have arguments about morality but stripping everything down to ‘x character did y bad thing (regardless of context) and that’s why they can’t be good’ is, to be blunt, ridiculous. And it isn’t a particularly interesting way to engage with the text. Character journeys, especially well written ones, are rarely ever in a straight line. There’s amazing highs and terrible lows. GRRM gives us so many characters like Jon, Dany, Arya, Sansa, Ned, etc. who even in their lows, have gleams of compassion and exceptional kindness. It doesn’t do anyone any good to filter those moments out to make the books more digestible; and I’m being a little generous here, because so many readers have a very shallow level of engagement with the series and it shows in conversation. And we also shouldn’t pit these characters unfairly against those who have never been in similarly difficult situations that required them to make hard choices. Because when we do, we start to completely miss the point all together.

#asoiaf #valyrianscrolls #yeah this came out of a particular thread on Reddit and I was just like….🫠 those people can’t be serious fjsnsnssjsb #trying to argue that jon is not a good person because he *checks notes* slept with ygritte and broke his nw vows #yeah let’s crucify a FIFTEEN YEAR OLD for not conforming to absolutely ridiculous norms that have absolutely no bearing to his true purpose #asoiaf stans when a literal child isn’t happy about dumb rules set by a penal colony that’s akin to indentured servitude: #surprised pikachu face #and the audacity to say garlan Tyrell is a better person that Jon or Dany or arya #what books are yall reading???? #what has he ever done that’s remotely comparable to these people that proves he is the height of honor or selflessness?? #nothing #we know literally nothing about this guy I’m- #tagging #jon snow #daenerys targaryen #arya stark #because it’s relevant in context

[chelseasdagger]

JON BERNTHAL as FRANK CASTLE

Season 1, Episode 2: Two Dead Men

#chelsea attempts to make gifs after months #i know the coloring sucks shhhh just look at the beard i promise nothing else will matter #frank castle #jon bernthal #the punisher #frankcastleedit #jonbernthaledit #marveledit #beardthal bash 2023 #BeardthalBash #fun fact! any time someone says “frank castle” this is the version of him that comes to my head #this is my frankie down to the outfit n everything #*mygifs

[fromtheseventhhell]

Why are we always getting described as cartoon villains? The way they swear we're sitting around doing nothing but shit-talking Sansa or hyper-sexualizing Arya is so weird, just making things up so they have an excuse to talk shit about us unprompted 😭

#anti sansa stans #fandom nonsense #/half of everything they say/ literally what Arya stans are constantly talking about Sansa being raped or killed by Jon?? #leave us alone fucking weirdos! #this is such a nasty thing to accuse someone of doing and you know they don't have any evidence of it #literally doing nothing but making shit up cause they want a fake sense of superiority over us

[eyeballsoup7310]

jonmartin-centric TMA au where the archives crew are actually the tech employees at magnus co. and it’s called Eye Tea

(I’m still trying to figure out how to draw everyone so if they look wildly different in each drawing that’s why)

#I know absolutely nothing about IT so I probably won’t do much with this au but I still wanted to post it #my art #the magnus archives #TMA #TMA au #TMA spoilers #Jon sims #martin blackwood #tim stoker #Sasha James

[lyrker]

#i hate how the only options are 1 day or 1 week. #don’t just vote for your blorbo vote who you think would kick ass the most #I know little to nothing abt Homestuck btw #i do know Egbert can just fucking retcon shit tho ??? #which was the main Well Ok argument #however jonathan sims is the fucking antichrist #and john doe is a fragment of an eldritch god of madness #so. #have fun #malevolent podcast #malevolent #john doe #john doe malevolent #john malevolent #homestuck #john egbert #john egbert homestuck #john homestuck #jonathan sims #jon sims #tma #the magnus archives

[swordsandarms]

There's nothing more self-inserting in this fandom than the people who actually hate Rhaegar Targaryen (and sometimes by extension Lyanna and Daenerys and other Targaryens).

But with Rhaegar it's very peculiar. With either Rhaegar positive or neutral fans, you can discuss things like connections he has with characters in actual canon, by actually canon references, that give him some depth whatsoever in turn. Love RxL shippers with all the actually newer clues highlighted compared to your typical "Jon's parentage" checklists because it gives more character interiority. Love the Jon and Dany fans who've given more attention to the connections clearly drawn on purpose by the author that are also doing that.

But people who outright hate this tertiary character? The emotionally driven rants as if this man was their own boyfriend or father and wronged them specifically and that's all the focus of it? Only ever writing in "depth" about him in scenarios that are clearly made up and can only be explained as projection from some baggage none of us trying to read some book are interested in? Very odd behaviour.

#asoiaf #lyanna stark #rhaegar targaryen #jon snow #it's also how you know #people like me come and go onto the topic #write something when there's something to add to whatever actually useful discussion there is in that sense #but those people #they just keep re-popping up to screech a variation of the same enraged broken record statement #and just keep doing that over the years #never getting over it #like idk #you've clearly got something to unpack #but it's definitely not about this small fantasy character #and as I said also with Dany or Jon or Arya or Lyanna etc #there's usual the self inserting people in Sansa or Catelyn or such #with veeeeeery weird opinions about things in general (aka women or children) and an opinion about the character they self insert in #that have nothing to do with their canon depiction most of time #or only being interested in that side of it they self insert in if that makes sense #so like Sansa is somehow a representative of girl next door suddenly cause she's not relevant to magic in a magic book #or Catelyn is some ever suffering wife who needs to feel validated in taking out her frustrations as some stressed out #21st century local mother with a shitty husband and stressed by taking care of children on her own #like hm #I see you and what you're doing but also #I don't care #I'm here for a book not for your personal shit

[thewafflescientist]

just started the magnus archives recently (have only finished up to ep 32 so far) and i like to think that one day jon just sat down at his desk one day like wow! time for a lovely day of recording statements! and then he just went entirely grey all at once instead of gaining grey hair over the course of time. like idk i think it's funnier if he just sat down and went from black hair to grey in a mere second from dealing with martin being pantless in his archives

#tma #the magnus archives #jon sims #jonathan sims #jonathon sims #what is jon but a paradox of his name being spelled differently each day #my friend is using me for tma theories bc i know nothing ab it diving in other than there's weird gay people #and not to trust books

[dirtytransmasc]

idk man, whatever Jon and Tormund had going on.... pretty gay, if I do say so myself. I can't find a single hetero explanation for anything that happened between them.

#jon snow #tormund giantsbane #jonmund #'my little crow' #the fact they literally don't stop touching each other (Tormund touching Jon specifically) #that they literally have separation anxiety #????? #does this all mean nothing #nothing at all #I say no #I say they're fruits #(for my moots/people who know me. I finally got around to watching got. will probably start posting about it eventually) #love my bi (jon) queer (Tormund) kings #(thats just the vibes I got from them) #(I don't think Tormund gave two fucks who he was fucking pre-jon)

[cupcak3bak3r]

feeling so unwell today thinking about a timeline where jon and damian would be each other’s prom dates.

damian was so serious about it (as he is with everything) he planned everything down to the smallest details like how their colognes should compliment each other’s, while jon would let damian decide on pretty much everything except for who’s gonna pick who up.

“you don’t even have a car.”

“i’ll find a way out, just- just let me pick you up, yeah? i wanna look bruce in the eyes and tell him ‘look who’s here to take your son to his senior prom’.”

#dc comics #jondami #damijon #damian wayne #jon kent #jon is a little shit he just hides it really well #bruce knows and he can do nothing about it