#Loki and Thor relationship

[galaxythreads]

Loki had no right to envy thor and praise the ground frigga walked on when odin was a shitty dad to all three of his kids

Alright! Time to talk about something that is not discussed enough: jealousy between siblings that grew up in parental abuse/neglectful situations.

As someone who grew up in an abusive/neglectful environment and has siblings, + knows many people who have the same set of parameters, jealousy between siblings is sort of natural byproduct because guess what!

Parents never, never, never abuse/neglect every kid in their family in exactly the same way.

My parents were awful to my siblings in ways they weren't to me, but I'm jealous of the good things they did to for them because they didn't do that with me (i.g. when I was looking for a job last year, i got yelled at every time I failed; when my sister was looking for a job, my parents were very present for her emotionally and assured her she was doing the best she could when she didn't get the job. Their patience was absurd to me) Stuff like that + bigger things. If we were neglected/abused in exactly the same way, my sister would have gotten yelled at, too, or I would have gotten support, but it didn't happen like that because parents don't DO that, even in healthy environments, parents are never the same parents to their kids.

Likewise in ways they were awful to my siblings, they were LESS awful to me, so my siblings are jealous of that. when you're raised in an environment where you have to fight for love and scraps of affection when your parents are in a parenting mood, you are always jealous when someone manages to get the scrap. Like yes, your siblings (often) become your closest friends and confidants in that situation because there's no one else who understands it like they do, but because the abuse/neglect is so different for everyone, it causes resentment.

So here's the thing: Thor, Hela, and Loki were not abused in the same way. Loki can have an amazing, healthy relationship with Frigga (he does not, but we can pretend for a moment) and Thor is fighting for scraps of love from her. (Parents and their parenting moods are weird) and Thor can resent Loki for that because he needs a mom too. Thor can get all the attention from Odin and have a healthier (it is not healthy) relationship with Odin, and Loki can resent him for that, even though he has a "good" relationship with Frigga, because he still needs a dad. Hela can have been banished and raised as Odin's sword and have NO good or even good-ish relationships with Frigga and Odin and she resents Thor and Loki for that because she needed parents.

But is all their trauma valid even though the WAY they were traumatized is different? Yes. Can we look at them and objectively choose the "worst" victim between the three of them? No. We can't. Because different things traumatize people differently. And why should we? it's not a competition. Even though parental abuse/neglect has a tendency to pit siblings against each other despite (usually) said siblings best efforts otherwise, it is NOT A COMPETITION.

Loki has every right to be angry with Odin over what he did to him even though Odin was terrible to all his children because IT! IS! NOT! A! COMPETETION! ABOUT WHO WAS ABUSED MORE! The most suffering victim doesn't "earn" the right to be traumatized. everyone was traumatized. Everyone gets therapy. They're just going to talk about different things in therapy and THEY ARE ALL STILL TRAUMATIZED.

I guarantee to you that if they were real people, Thor would absolutely be jealous of Loki and Hela. Loki would be jealous of Hela and Thor. Hela would be jealous of Thor and Loki, EVEN THOUGH all of them are being abused, it's just the fact they're not being abused in the same way.

And this is WHY I am always in awe of their relationship in canon because it is one of the best written sibling relationships under abuse I have ever seen because it is REAL. (The Umbrella Academy s1 did this spectacularly, also, btw) Sibling relationships under abuse are so so so messy because everyone is in survival mode and it causes SO MANY issues.

and guess what! Everyone IS jealous of each other

^ Thor's resentment that he wasn't taught anything by Frigga (listen to the way he says this, he is very jealous and bitter, i WISH they had poked this more)

^ hela jealous odin replaced her with Thor

^ loki jealous that Thor got more attention than he did from their parents + people in general (all this attention wasn't a good thing) (funnily enough, for someone who is said to be SUPER jealous, this is the only time in canon I can think of Loki actually admitting that he is)

so anyway, sibling resentment HAPPENS but everyone is still abused/neglected and it all sucks and EVERYONE deserves therapy. And hey, if Frigga decided to actually be a parent to one of her kids (she didn't) then I am HAPPY because at least SOMEONE got a parent, even though Thor deserved a mom just as much as Loki did.

#thor meta #loki meta #hela meta #hela #loki #thor #odin's a+ parenting #child abuse #we do not talk about sibling relationships and abuse enough #it would have helped me so much when I was younger if I knew any of this instead I just thought i was a monster #turns out i was just 13 and exhausted

[lokavisi]

Y'all, Thor is so great. If you need just a solid buddy, he's your guy. We just shot the shit for a while tonight, and it was just lovely. He really gives a shit about us, about humanity. (I mean, protecting us is kinda his Thing™️, after all.) Having spent a little more time with him, I see why he and Loki share so many stories with one another. Neither of them is dumb or weak, but their respective strength and cunning pair really nicely when you wanna get up to some shit. Even if your partner in crime has a slightly different agenda than your own. Add Odin into the mix and you've truly got a sitcom on your hands. Earlier this week I was talking with Thor and Loki together, and Odin just showed up like, "Who the fuck was gonna tell me y'all were hanging out?" What a kooky fucking bunch. I love these dorks. 10/10, would hang out again. ❤️

#odin #thor #loki #loki deity #norse loki #norse thor #norse odin #þor #oðinn #lokean #heathen #heathenry #upg #deity relationships #10/10 #we have fun here #we experience love here

[bardicious]

I will only accept X-Men in the MCU if Cherik is canon. These are my demands.

#Between Rage and Serenity #xmen #cherik #xmen movieverse #xmen dofp #xmen first class #xmen apocalypse #The Adventures of Loki and the Other Ones #Marvel #Loki #grrrrrrrr - fuck this marvel bs #also there was a weird moment with carol and valkyrie #like are yall trying to allude to a relationship but didnt commit or????? #I really think thats what they did #fucking cowards #rolled my eyes when i saw her tho - cant take that character seriously at all after the last thor especially

[moondustinfj]

Jegulus is basicly loki x fandral but with even less canon content

#epiphany #sunshine x grumpy #best friends brother #overprotective older brother #black cat x golden retriever #secret relationship #jegulus #fandroki #dashingfrost #loki x fandral #loki laufeyson #loki odinson #fandral #james potter #regulus black #wolfstar #marauders #thor

[worstloki]

does anyone else think it's really funny that MCU Loki has such a lack of genuine friends that to pretend there were some at some point involves creating original characters

#and it's usually women characters too isn't that hilarious #like 'uhhh yeah Loki had friends pre-Thor 1. such as.... uhhm. Amora. Sigyn. Lorelei? Angrboda!' #and then Sif and Loki end up with the most complex relationship out of Loki and the other warriors 3 #bro was so friendless everyone agreed to carry over characters not even in the MCU just so he can have some

[rocksanddeadflowers]

BEGGING on my hands and knees to ANY MECHANISMS FANARTIST to draw TBI Thor and Loki in that myth were Thor's hammer was stolen and to get it back he had to pretend to be Freya and dress up like a bride and Loki was his bridesmaid i think it would be a great bonding experience for those two pre-bifrost

#(yeah i know in TBI canon Thor had got a random giant hammer on the train but PLEASE #understand my vision: it's cute and funny) #pretty sure there's fanart of MCU Thor and Loki doing this out there #so a TBI Thor and Loki version would be beautiful #the mechanisms #the bifrost incident #tbi #loki tbi #thor tbi #they're relationship is very important to me okay #across the multiverse of norse mythology based fiction thor and loki's relationship will always be one of my favorite things ever #norse mythology is the only reason i got into the MCU way back when lmao #so TBI has my whole heart

[nonbinarylesbianherb]

my view on the relationship between loki and sylvie-

I believe their bond is a deeply misunderstood sibling one. I think Loki didnt really comprehend how he felt and labelled it as romantic. The thing about Loki and Thor, is whilst Loki loves his brother very much, theres always been that sort of pressure and competition that he’s felt, that he needed to prove he was good enough to his parents and others. He’s always felt on such a different level to thor in a lot of ways (usually feeling less superior) and it doesnt help as well that Loki is the notorious bad guy whilst thor is the good guy. I think meeting sylvie, someone who does understand him at least in a loki way, and someone he doesnt have to try harder with to be better, I think he immediately developed a kinship with her, one he never really had with thor. And I think that because thats the first time he’s felt like that, he thought it was romantic interest- especially since for marvel loki we’ve never seen him in a serious romantic relationship, its safe to assume that maybe hes never had one, and therefore also not too used to or understanding of how romantic interest feels either.

#loki #loki series #loki season 2 #loki laufeyson #loki show #sylvie #loki sylvie #loki and sylvie #loki and thor #how i saw their relationship #no shade to slyki shippers though #thought I will admit Im a lokius enthusiast sorry #mini rant #about loki #and his relationship with sylvie (how i see it)

[tyrannuspitch]

every so often i remember the proposed childhood flashback scene in TR in which loki would have bullied thor and i get so angry steam starts coming out of my ears. mhm yeah that's totally the power dynamic at play and would not be retconning anything significant at all, that's why the scenes that made it into the movie include one where thor casually threatens to murder loki using the symbol of his superiority in the eyes of their father, one where thor bulldozes over loki's protests about "humiliation" and uses him as an inanimate weapon by physically throwing him across the room, and one where thor just straight up tortures loki while giving him a smug speech about how LOKI needs to do more self-reflection 👍 i know it's literally not real and can't hurt me but jesus christ the amount of victim blaming you have to be doing to even come up with that concept...

#space viking tag #constructive complaining #TO BE CLEAR i don't think pre-TR thor is actually a bully EITHER #and i don't think their relationship is quite as simple as one victim one perpetrator #but still. IF one of them had bullied the other as a kid. it wouldn't have been loki. it literally COULDN'T. #bc socially speaking thor holds ALL THE POWER #s: t3 #ch: loki #ch: thor #r: loki + thor #th: abuse + empire

[adriengraye]

Unnamed Loki variant art [although inspired by a specific comic Loki]

L8157 AKA Loki Friggason [She / They / He]

This Loki accepted their inability to inherit the throne long ago, even going so far as to renounce Odin. While they have every right to the throne of Jotunheim, they don’t wish to rule.

they travel across the realms instead, more often than not creating chaos in their path. Ofcourse they never stray away from Asgard too long, despite their appearance I promise they aren’t terrible! As far as Lokis go anyway.

Although [amongst others] they do still have a rather nasty scar on their back; a direct hit from Thors lightning during a fight. [don’t worry, they’re over it now .. mostly.]

That’s all the info I’ll put into this post as to not make it too long, here’s the uncoloured / line art version too!!

#Loki friggason #Loki doesn’t want a throne #this Loki needs a Don !!! #considering dashingfrost for this au too though #dashingfrost grew on me #did I mention this loki and Thor have a healthy relationship? crazy I know #loki laufeyson #loki odinson #genderfluid loki canon #Loki variant #Loki fanart #fanart #Loki art

[youlackconviction]

[above quote by chris odinson hemsworth about thor ragnarok]

stuff that happens in our LOKI discord server when we remember bullshit like that exists:

#in defense of loki #relationship dynamics in serialised fiction #loki deserves better #thor is the worst brother #2011-2013 brodinson supremacy #chris wanting thor to be more like him was the worst self-own

[p4nishers]

im rewatching thor and who do i see on my fucking screen?? DONALD BLAKE ON A FUCKING PIECE OF PAPER. i cant escape him he's haunting me

#'good with patients bad wiyh relationship' see RIGHT THERE that is NOT my mobius he's be the best partner out there #donald blake quick question to u are u haunting my ass bc i called u lil bitch to tj answer truthfully 🎤🎤 #mobius m mobius #donald blake #loki series #thor

[theangrykimchi]

For River on twt who asked for #7 - to shut them up 🥰

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The sliding doors opened with a whirring sound, letting Loki enter the captain's quarters along with a billow of steam from the bathroom, light spilling onto the brown patterned carpet for a moment before the doors closed behind him again.

He was bone tired from the day's events, dragging his feet under him as he made his way to the soft bed where Thor was already sprawled upon. Loki yawned, big and loudly, hand rubbing a towel through his hair. Thor stretched luxuriously in all of his naked glory, equally exhausted with Loki.

Loki tripped.

“Fuck!” he exclaimed in surprise, trying to regain his balance.

Turning his head, Thor looked at him while Loki looked down to find a linen shirt tangled around his foot.

“Maybe you should start watching where you're going?” Thor murmured, yawning and turning to his side to look properly up at Loki who was bending down to retrieve the shirt .

“Maybe I wouldn't have to if you tidied after yourself.”

Thor laughed. “You're one to talk,” Thor said, making a waving motion to indicate all of Loki's stuff taking over every available surface.

Loki crossed his arms over his bare chest, standing before his brother's legs that were dangling from the bed. “You aren't back in Asgard where we had dozens of servants to chase after you and clean your messes,” Loki snapped, knocking his knee lightly into Thor's when he wouldn't look at him.

Sharing such a limited space after centuries of being used to each having their own sprawling chambers was hard and it had started getting to them after a few months of it, raising arguments between them that got more and more frequent.

Thor braced himself on his elbows, raised an eyebrow.

“You really want to get into it right now? When we're both this tired?”

“I don't know, Thor, I'd like it if I didn't endanger myself every time I walked in our bedroom.”

Thor laughed and grabbed Loki's hand, trying to pull him in the bed with him, but Loki wouldn't budge. Thor pulled with more force, making Loki drop inelegantly on top of him with an <i>oof</i>. Raising himself with his palms braced either side of Thor's head, Loki glared at him.

“Don't try to seduce me, fool, I'm ang–”

Thor shut him up with a kiss, his arms wrapping tightly around Loki's trim waist. Loki growled in frustration, ripping his mouth away.

“You extremely irritating, oafish bas–”

Thor surged after him, knocking their teeth together as he captured his mouth again. Loki's hand slapped on Thor's pectoral, trying to push him away. Their legs tangled, their bodies slotting together seamlessly as Thor rolled them over. Unwilling to give in, Loki turned his head on the side, but that only gave Thor easier access to all the sensitive areas of his neck, turning Loki into a moaning mess soon after.

“Fuck you,” Loki cursed, pulling at Thor's hair, pulling him closer to where Thor was mouthing on his tendon. “This won't change anything. You know I can let you fuck me and still be mad at you.”

“I'll clean up tomorrow,” Thor promised, his voice hot in Loki's ear, his hand tight on his lean thigh. “Will you give in now and forgive me for causing you to almost break your neck?”

Loki looked at him silently for a few moments, his expression furrowed into a scowl. Finally, he sighed and relaxed back into the rumbled covers.

“Fine. Yeah. Okay. Sex me up. Come–”

This time, when Thor cut him off with a kiss, Loki melted into it without resistance, holding on tightly to Thor's shoulders and chasing after his warm tongue.

The next day, Thor excused himself from his morning Kingly duties and made sure to clean up the entirety of their living space, even going as far as to tidy up Loki’s books, documents and scrolls into neat clutter piles. The soft kiss he received as a thank you when Loki entered their rooms late in the evening, was the best reward he could get.

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#thorki #thunderfrost #thor/loki #thorki fic #my stuff #my fic #post Thor Ragnarok #on the statesman #established relationship #kiss prompts #thorki ficlet #kimchi writes #ao3 link #kimchi.writes #loveisakiss

[taw-k]

My life will never be complete until I see more Bruce and Loki interactions.

#i feel like they became freinds on the statesman #and maybe bruce realised the whole mind controll thing #definitely chill with eachother #lokis gonna show and and everyones like GAHHAHHHH LOKI! Meanwhile bruce is like “hey loki #“hows that plant i got you?” #loki #loki laufeyson #marvel #loki laufeydottir #loki laufeychild #bruce banner #hulk #A MARVEL SHORT ABOUT THE STATESMAN WOULD BE AMAZING #Itd go into all thr shenanigans that hapoened with the group #thor and loki rekindling their brotherly love and relationship #val adjusting to non hulk bruce #val and thor being besties #Val probobly beating up loki #loki becoming friends with bruce #bruce definitely taught him some meditation techniques #isnt bruce kind of a mental health doctor too? #loki of jotunheim #loki of asgard

[unapologeticallypippo]

“Do you truly think so little of me?”

“Loki, I thought the world of you.”

I watched that Thor and Loki edit from End Game and it reopened some old wounds (´°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥ω°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥｀)

#marvel #loki series #loki x reader #thor odinson #I LOVE A ANGSTY SIBLINGS RELATIONSHIP #CAN U TELL????

[worstloki]

Thor 1 has so much banger dialogue and visuals that are that way because of the very specific context they’re in and I love that for them despite all the tilted angle shots 💯✨👍

#the movie is actually so so good for analysis for a bunch of narrative reasons which is cool #I’m still smitten by the use of colours alone #the way so much is implied but through proper integration into the setting #it’s very evident with the relationship establishment especially and I love that #because it does so much in a small amount of time??? #a lot of the movie is slow but the meaning of what’s going on happens pretty concisely #like oh Thor is on Earth thinking he’s stuck for the foreseeable future and is becoming less arrogant and more aware of consequences #and how he is able to make mistakes #and ah maybe the way I interact with others should be more considerate to their perspective #and there is knowledge and stories that can and should be learnt and shared #etc. #the COLOURS #I love the use of cool and warm tones so so so so so so much #it’s so clever #the entire movie is colour coordinated #forget the camera angles Thor’s fall from grace STILL landed him in a golden desert albeit in the middle of the night #while Loki on Asgard had the blue tones EVERYWHERE #like BROOO #the times he had gold it was when he was in the room with Odin/Frigga and trying to ‘save’ Asgard by killing Laufey #he went to meet Thor when he was captured by SHIELD and things were WHITE #THEY WERE WHITE

[nostalgia-tblr]

Six Some Sentences Sunday

Doing the meme (late) this week with a bit from the latest of a totally normal number of MCU Medieval Adultery AUs. Thor has gone off to war, leaving his pregnant wife behind with Loki who has promised to "take care of her" and obviously he means that and won't just seduce her as soon as Thor is out of the way.

Here's a snippet of him seducing her as soon as Thor is out of the way:

To test this apparent naivety he takes a berry from the bowl himself and carries it all the way to her lips, and without any hesitation she lets him feed it to her, and he is careful to squeeze a drop of juice from it so that he can brush that from her lip with a fingertip just to see how she reacts. Her tongue sweeps over the spot when he draws his hand away, seemingly unaware, her expression too serene to settle the issue of whether his brother’s wife is an idiot or a whore. Which would be worse? he wonders. Either way, it’s a little disappointing; there’s no real challenge there, all it would take is a little persistence and he could have her. Still, this isn’t about how difficult the task is, it’s about tarnishing something that Thor treasures, about being able to take something from him even if it’s only for the duration of a furtive fuck or two. Or more, he amends, as he watches Alfrida suck another stain from her fingers.

#i might end up tagging this one as Loki/OFC if it grows any longer and especially if it grows any filthier #it's a pairing tag i don't venture into often but they seem to be very into pornography? more than seems to be the average. #the chick in the thor-gets-bethrothed fic wasn't central to it enough to deserve the Relationship tag (or so I assumed) #& i would not want to lure in the Thor/OFC fans only for them to have to read about [spoiler] [spoilering] that OFC on a [spoiler] u kno? #six sentence sunday #fic snippets #btw pls feel free to stage an intervention before i tread too far down this dark path and develop an adultery kink of some sort #PLS FEEL FREE #fair alfrida