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lineli225 · 4 months

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MHA IS / NOT / ENDING IN 2024

Ok so, MHA is definitely having at least more 50 chapters at the very minimum.

MHA is weekly, and 2024 will have only 52 weeks, so that plus breaks, if it has 50 chapters, knowing Hori takes at least a break a month, it'd need around 65 or 70 weeks to be completed.

So it can't end in 2024, maybe MHA will end around February or March 2025... Perhaps even June!

But why I think so?

The final war arc started on chapter 343, so the current arc has 66 chapters.

This final arc is the longest arc in the series, as Hori's arcs got progressively longer each new arc, the longest arcs being 24, 41 and 54, from the first big arc, it basically doubled in size, it can double again.

But i think of the traitor arc as part of the final war, starting with the Sns chapter, which is chapter 329

So to me the final arc has 80 chapters so far to put it simple.

Also Hori wouldn't just cut the end dry, I can easily see a last, short, epilogue arc showing what happened after and all the changes in society and everything.

MHA won't end in more 15 chapters, we still haven't seen: Aizawa/Mic/Kurogiri, Sero's role, the tie up to Toga and Ochako, Hawks being the light of hope, Spinner's demise, seeing what talk Compress had with the heroes, Hisashi finally appearing(hori did promise it!), Hori did mention Class 2-A briefly showing up, tie the quirk singularity theory plot, AFO finally inserting his quirk factor on Tomura, AND finally, Tomura vs Izuku.

Tomura vs Izuku is probably not being quick, giving they are the main characters, and the grand finale, the greatest mess and also what needs more focus, In these 60+ chapters of this arc so far, izuku barely showed up, you can't have a 80 chapters only arc and your MAIN CHARACTER show up just 5 or so!!!

Considering Hori made almost 50 chapters of ONLY people fighting AFO and other stuff, I'm confident we will have at MINIMUM some 15 chapters of ONLY Shigaraki vs Izuku, he is saving these two for last, so I'm confident it won't be that fast AT ALL!

Honestly, I won't be surprised if MHA have more 70 chapters left, I can easily see this arc being over 150 chapters, like, come on, Hori didn't take his sweet sweet time only to half ass rush the most important part! Hori won't rush now that he toke so much care to build up the climax

Honestly i personally think MHA might even reach 460/480 chapters total, I wont be surprised if we reach 500 chapters either! (Each volume have 12 chapters, so MHA ending with a total of 47 or 48 volumes. )

Like- there is way TOO MUCH to be seen! The final arc is only on the half way but already been 80 chapters so far! And we haven't even got to the main fight!!!

Anyways, mark my words

MHA is ending in middle 2025.

Update/Edit: Just realized MHA will have only 33 chapters released this year and only 2 volumes

First chapter of 2023 was 377- the chain thus far

33 chapters of only fighting AFO, togachako and tododabi

Even If MHA have only more 15 chaps it'll still take half a whole year 😭 MHA IS SO NOT ENDING TILL 2025

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pikahlua · 8 months

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[MASTERPOST] My Hero Academia Spoilers/Manga Translations Part 2

Continued from Part 1 here.

Ch. 359

Ch. 358

Ch. 357

Ch. 356

Ch. 355

Ch. 354

Ch. 353

Ch. 352 (full chapter)

Ch. 352

Ch. 351

Ch. 350

Ch. 349

Ch. 348 (clarification on Izuku’s response to Toga)

Ch. 348 (first three pages complete)

Ch. 348

Ch. 347

Ch. 346

Ch. 345

Ch. 344

Ch. 343 (full chapter)

Ch. 343

Ch. 342

Ch. 341 (first six pages)

Ch. 340

Ch. 338

Ch. 337

Ch. 336 Part 1

Ch. 336 Part 2

Ch. 336: The MHA 336 leak(???) translated

Ch. 335

Ch. 334

Ch. 333

Ch. 332

Ch. 330

Ch. 329

Ch. 327 (but only the first three pages)

Ch. 326

Ch. 325

Ch. 324

Ch. 322: What Katsuki needs to say

Ch. 322

Ch. 321

Ch. 320

Ch. 319

Ch. 318 Part 1

Ch. 318 Part 2

Ch. 318 Part 3

Ch. 310 Translation Notes

Ch. 302 Translation Notes

Ch. 290-291 Dabi’s broadcast translation

Ch. 284 Translation Notes

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cloudywithachanceofautism · 10 months

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MHA MANGA SPOILERS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVEN’T READ IT IDK MHA VOL 34. CHPT. 329

Just read Vol. 34 and LEMME TELL YA THAT I HAVE NEVER ATTACHED MYSELF SO FAST TO A CHARACTER ONLY TO WATCH THEM DIE RIGHT AFTER.

#bnha #mha #my hero academia #bakugou katsuki #bnha deku #bnha bakugou #boku no hero academia #izuku midoriya #star and stripe #mha star and stripe #star and stripe my beloved #boku no hero acedamia

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i4sgwr · 11 months

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MHA season 6 leaves off at Chapter 329! And it's getting real good, you'll have more Dabi content as well 😋

My beloved (Monoma) gets his time in the spotlight pretty quick after too 😌

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thank youuu !!! and trust me i’m well aware of all the Dabi content 🫠

#so the recent leaks huh ahaha 😃#i really gotta catch up #anons :: 🎀#[💬] convos

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claycatz · 1 year

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I posted 543 times in 2022

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Longest Tag: 92 characters

#imagine him having a full blown panic attack and then shrugs and calls it emotional hell smh

My Top Posts in 2022:

"Katsuki wonders how far those freckles go..."

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istg anyone who ever came across bkdk will recognize this sentence

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character in canon: *gets a paper cut*

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Aw isin't this adorable?

sorry im so sadistic

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The Holy Trinity?

more like the holy tragedy

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My #1 post of 2022

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niks-minion · 3 years

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The best frame of this week

Happy to provide, enjoy folks

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qkmlh · 3 years

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I just think she’s very neat ❤️🤍💙

#HER CONFIDENCE THOUGH PLEASE LET HER BE SAFE I LIKE HER AND I REALLY DON’T WANT TO LOSE HER ALREADY #Plus I think it would be lovely for Izuku to get to meet her 🥺🥺🥺#Star and Stripe #MHA #BNHA #My Hero Academia #Boku No Hero Academia #MHA 329 #BNHA 329 #Ani Rambles

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ignitification · 3 years

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no thoughts, only Shigaraki

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bat-eclecticwolfbouquet-love · 2 years

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mhacentral · 3 years

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MHA 329 Spoilers

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villainsandvictimsalliance · 3 years

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My opinion on bnha 329:

You can check in here my opinion about chapter 328, if you want the context.

I'm glad Horikoshi solved many of the things I pointed out last week. And I'm glad that I'm correctly reading into the manga, at least at some extent.

Let's see what we got this week: (long post)

After a long building up of relating Spinner to common citizens, mutants, people with weaker quirks and in general, the audience or the general public, we finally see this being explicitly acknowledged. He's on the end of his arc now, because the people picked him as their voice.

The last point is really important because Spinner now has great power. This is a direct parallel to the way Uraraka took control of the megaphone and spoke for the heroes. Now, it's Spinner's turn to speak for the villains, but because people wants him to do so.

On another note, we got an amazing graphic parallel of Stain and Spinner. While Stain is in shadows, Spinner is bright. And unlike Stain, Spinner has been chosen by the public. He was not there to be a leader, but people recognize him as one. This is very interesting because it shows how much Spinner has grown and how he is his own character, with his own achievements.

We saw Dabi back in a forest. This is a direct parallel to the way he stopped being Touya and got to be Dabi. It's a graphic reminder that we're getting the end of his arc with the Todorokis. What is his last step? We know he has his own plans and we know he wants to make Endeavor suffer, so could he be on a solo mission to achieve his vengeful desires? In which forest is Dabi? Are we're going to get more flashbacks? Are we going to see him back at Sekoto Peak?

Please note that when they mention Toga, it's exactly the way Curious wanted it. Toga is in front of a black background. She's being inserted on a narrative by force and not by choice, because someone else is putting her there. Alternatively, the white background tells us Toga's arc is still lacking definition and scenario for its end. Her fate is yet to be defined.

There's A LOT to say about AFO. Please look how the League of Villains is broken. AFO is using them as puppets. When referring to Spinner, he talks about him like he's a "bodyguard", not an equal or a friend like Tomura used to do. AFO clearly doesn't care about them and he won't stop to consider what they want, unlike Tomura. He has his own things to do and anything else must be forgotten and put aside.

AFO is still hiding behind Tomura. Please note how Tomura is treated like any other nomu. AFO took the throne of the king (Tomura) and made Tomura into a war dog.

Now, I've written some meta before about how Tomura never had an own identity until he met the League. Kotaro denied Tomura being himself, so much that the hand of Kotaro was still making Tomura faceless long after Kotaro's dead.

After Kotaro, AFO took away Tenko Shimura and imposed a new identity: Shigaraki Tomura. Please note that Shigaraki is AFO username, which means that even back then AFO was planning on using Tomura as an extention of AFO himself. And by naming him Tomura he pressured the kid to never forget his anger and sadness, caused by the tragedy of his family. It was AFO who repressed further the kid, all the hands being a physical reminder of such act. The hands were covering his entire face and because Tomura was unable to touch, he was only able to listen, just like the nomus. That's why Tomura scratches his neck so much. He itches for having an own voice, an own personality, an own identity.

If you pay attention to the panels in bnha 329, you can see how Tomura is wearing both a suit that resembles AFO's clothes and a cloak that resembles the one AFO was using on the world where Deku could see the vestiges. Tomura even has the white hair like AFO now. His pose and clothes are a direct parallel to Deku, but in a way AFO is a parallel to OFA.

Tomura has been stripped away of everything that made him himself. He doesn't have the hands, he doesn't have his clothes, people calls him AFO now, he doesn't even have his friends around. He's alone, a weapon and nothing more. I wrote another meta about how Tomura had no identity analyzing a panel from bnha 328. This is the direct consequence of that.

But this is not a separate case. It is pretty normal, in fact. When a system fails, when an entire country dives on a crisis, it's normal for everyone to question their place in that society and their identities.

Deku had an identity crisis and his friends for UA needed to rescue him and reminded him who he was. Toshinori had a crisis and Stain needed to helped him with it. Uraraka questioned too her identity as a hero and from there her speech above UA was born. Endeavor got a crisis, Shoto got a crisis, Toga needs to decide as much as Spinner does who do they want to be, Dabi is facing his old identity and his new identity conflicts...

This is actually pretty good. The narrative around heroes and villains are being questioned.

Who am I and why am I that person?

Do I need to be that person?

What is my role in society? Why?

What are my goals and why? Are they worth all the consequences?

Do I like the identity of my society? If not, can I change it? Can I change all the things before?

Bnha inner universe is walking towards a redefinition. What is a hero, what is a villain, who are they, why they are heroes or villains, etc. These characters were forced into certain roles or they assumed they needed to play those roles, according to what society told them. And now, they are free to decide. Time and time again, in every journey of any hero, the problems of the identity and the self vs the others is vital, and it shows through the decision making system.

On a final note, I'm a little sad that Horikoshi made a female version of All Might to fight Tomura, instead of giving her a more original character design in general. Women in the bnha universe tend to be seen as replacements of previous existent characters, or they are used quickly to further the plot and get forgotten. They deserve a better treatment, being honest.

The kids will get there rest time, because not all the cards are on the table yet. I love that it's the turn of the villains to play, because the final result of the next battles are going to be partially determined by what the members of the League of Villains decide to do.

Spinner will probably betray AFO, because he's not loyal to AFO's ideals but to his own ideas.

Dabi has his own thing going and he's also going to get rescued by the Todorokis. I really want to see Hawks, Endeavor, Shoto and Dabi all in a same fight, because parallels are going to fly around and I bet we're going to found out more about Dabi's heart.

I think Toga is still going to interact with the UA kids and help them somehow. I hope she gets to talk to Deku and make some good friends.

And for Tomura... He needs someone to reach for him. He has lost himself. His determination is gone, the sparks in his eyes, his fire. He needs a reason to fight, a reason to believe. He needs someone to believe in him, someone to call out his name and make him exists. He needs someone to see him. He's the same lost boy who walked on the streets asking for someone to rescue him. He's the same kid that asked for someone to believe he could be a hero. If Deku gives him that, if All Might helps him too, if the League is there to show them their loyalty, Tomura will be able to snap out of AFO's control and break free.

Nothing like a good villain chapter to make me excited about the future chapters. Let's wait and see.

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linkspooky · 3 years

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Spinner vs Deku - The Ordinary Everydude Protagonist

This post came about because I read somewhere, someone pointing to the fact that Spinner doesn't parallel any of the main class 1A kids. Shigaraki parallels Deku, Toga parallels Uraraka, Shoto parallels Dabi, then what about spinner? This is not true actually, though, because Spinner.... also parallels Deku. They are both green.

Beyond that though, the role of protagonist of the villain side has been split between two characters. Shigaraki is the main plot mover of the villain side, he's the character which the main conflict of the story, but also Shigaraki is a fully formed character with an incredibly specific and detailed backstory. The audience isn't really meant to find him relatable (though I do but, that's beside the point).

To use an example from super hero comics, Bruce Wayne / Batman is meant to be a character with a detailed backstory, he's not meant to be relatable because we are not all millionaires sadly. However, the point of spiderman is that he is just a kid from new york who randomly got super powers and patrols the block. We are supposed to see ourselves in spiderman, because, the entire point of spiderman is that he could be anyone. The best adaptations of Spiderman (Ie, the Miles Morales movie) stay true to this concept of the character.

So, for My Villain Academia, Horikoshi split the role of protagonist between two people, Spinner who is so far unimportant to the story, unrelated to the main conflict, an everyman guy but also a character whose perspective is important because the audience can find it relatable. Then Shigaraki who is Horikoshi's well-developed OC who the story revolves around. Therefore you have one perspective character who narrates, and helps the audience understand the other character who the story revolves around. If you want an example for literature, the book is called the Great Gatsby, the plot revolves around Jay Gatsby, but the story is told by some dude named Nick Carraway and filtered through his perception. The plot revolves around Shigaraki, but it's relayed to us by Spinner.

It's in this role that Spinner parallels Deku, and once you start thinking of them in that sense that they are both characters the audience is meant to relate to and see themselves in their similarities become even more clear.

1. Empty Cosplayers

Despite all the deliberate parallels between Shigaraki and Deku set up, backstory wise Deku actually has a lot more in common with Spinner. They are both members of a group affected by the prejudices of quirk society, Deku is quirkless, Spinner not only has a heteromoprh qiurk, he doesn't even have a useful one like a few of the other heteromorph kids in the hero course, he just sticks to walls.

They learn from a young age that society is unfair, and ti's also unfair towards them. They are also both victims of bullying. which society around them seems to deem as acceptable. Deku is tormented by the same kid for years and nobody stops him, Spinner lived in a backwater town and he just accepted everyone telling him he was worthless. They also both developed nerdy / fanboy personalities, and leaned into their interests as a response to being bullied. Spinner is a gamer, Deku is a fanboy of heroes, and it's been commented upon several times his desire to collect hero merch is a nerdy hobby.

The greatest thing they share in common however, is their main motivation at first is how much they want to become like the hero they idolize. Deku is sort of an empty character motivation wise, he doesn't have a backstory reason like Shoto, he doesn't really ever articulate why he wants to save others, he just wants to be like the hero he admires that always smiled while saving others. However, if you were tor read Spinner's foiling of Deku, because Spinner is much more articulate of his reasoning, you could say that both Spinner and Deku were so tired of being weak and helpless and unable to change their circumstances, they both admired someone who fought against the world with all their strength, Stain in Spinner's case, All Might in Deku's. Deku and Spinner are themselves people who are somewhat empty and lacking in internal motivators, but they are also moved by great feelings, to strive to do great things, even in circumstances where they are powerless. They are also, very specifically, moved to take their very first steps towards acquiring something by the desire to save others, Deku by his desire to save Bakugo which makes him move when he's powerless, Spinner by his desire to support Shigaraki which makes him fight an entire crowd of people with much more powerful quirks than he has.

They also both dress up and cosplay like their heroes. Spinner s costume is deliberately modeled off of Stain, he carries a bunch of knives around at first, because that's what Stain did. Deku wears the green outfit with the bunny hood, because it's meant to look like All Might. He copies a lot of All Might's moves at first, without thinking about how to adapt them to his body.

They also both started out as nerdy slash weak kids who were moved to get stronger by the chance to be like their heroes. Spinner just started doing sit ups apparently, Deku worked out for months until he could even inherit the quirk All For One. Most importantly though they are not only cosplayers they are empty cosplayers, Deku and Spinner don't really have a complex and nuanced understanding of both All Might and Stain they just both admire them as their personal heroes. Deku still to this point has a hard time seeing the flaws and critiquing All Might's mistakes. Spinner doesn't really think critically about whether Stain was right or wrong. They're both caught up in admiring both as symbols for what they represent. All Might as a hero whos aves everyone with a smile. Stain as a force of change for a society, that was for Spinner, stagnant and oppressive.

Which means they also repeat some of their predecssors mistakes. We just went through an entire arc of Deku doing the exact same thing All Might did, which was cut everybody off, and try to solve every problem of Hero Society alone, despite the damage it was doing to his body and his Mental Health.

Stain's failure was specifically because he tried to revolutionize hero society all alone, not only did his actions not result in the reform he wanted when he was stopped, but Shigaraki was able to use Stain's image to recruit other people into the league of villains who didn't really agree with Stain's idea of reform of hero society, and instead wanted destruction. Now we have spinner who has become the face of a revolution the same way that Stain was, that he is also quickly losing control of now that AFO has become the head of the League of Villains.

Spinner of course admires the idea of destroying the old society and replacing it with something new, but I think in these chapters he's quickly realizng that, what new thing they replace it with might not be better if someone like AFO who thrives off of control and centralizing power to himself has a say in it. That is once again, Spinner becoming his hero, but not realizing his faults. Spinner actually has a strength that Stain doesn't have, the ability to work with others, to sympathize with them and comprehend their motivations to the point where they can see the humanity in someone like Shigaraki. And it might be Spinner's specific strength over Stain, that allows him to retake control of the narrative that Stain lost control of, and AFO is currently trying to take control of.

2. You Looked Like You Needed Saving

Spinner and Deku are also connected because on the villain side and hero side respectively, they are the first two characters to verbalize that Shigaraki is someone who might be in need of saving.

Within two chapters of each other, while everybody else remarks upon Shigaraki as a god of destruction, or some kind of divinity, it is both Spinner and Deku who express concern from him as a person.

The reason they are both able to connect to the normal human side of Shigaraki, is because that is their role essentially, as the narrator / perspective character for each of their halves of the story. However, it is also because they are both essentially just normal people.

Now whether Deku is actually a good deconustrction of the chosen one myth or not, or whether he's actually a good protagonist isn't really the point here. Deku is set up by Horikoshi in his role as the story, as just a normal person, who got dragged into all of this mess. Deku is suposed to be Spiderman. Not a special chosen one, but a normal kid struggling along to keep up with everyone else. Deku doesn't immediately understand the complex nuances of the world around him, because he's supposed to be the audiences way of working out the complexities in what seems like a light hearted story about a super hero academy at first but then becomes a much darker deconstruction. The idea Hori is trying to get across again and again is that Deku is nobody special, just a normal kid struggling.

Spinner is also an everydude struggling to keep up with his peers who are all, more powerful, and also have much more specific motivations than him. It's Spinner's role in the story, to try to learn to comperehend the nuance of these people. If Deku is supposed to show us the more human and nuanced side of the heroes in the story and how they struggle, then Spinner is meant to relay to us the villains.

Which is why Spinner starts out with no motivation at all, and starts out as being the one to question and antagonize Shigaraki, only to change his mind once he sees other sides of Shigaraki. Spinner is a perspective character, his journey isn't about being the strongest, or working out a lot to get jacked, but rather to gain perspective of the world, and that was also supposed to be the intended purpose of Deku's solo arc.

Deku and Spinner are both characters who start out with no specific motivation except admiration for their heroes, and no direction in life, because they are supposed to gain some over the course of their journey. Their journeys also, are becoming less and less about being individually strong, and more about learning to reach out to others. Deku admired All Might's ability to save everyone alone with sheer super strength, but in his solo arc he couldn't live up to that image he crashed and burned. Spinner admired Stain's ability as just one man to change the world alone, but now in Stain's position as the face of a revolution, he's kind of powerless and in a position where he could be manipulated by AFO very easily.

He's on a tight rope right now. The solution to both of their problems, is to once again open up to the network people around them. Deku needed to reunite with Class 1A. Spinner's plotline is likely going to revolve around bringing the scattered pieces of the league back together, while AFO tries to keep them seperate and easy to control.

Spinner and Deku are also both characters who are motivated to go out into the world, and try to understand it, because of their desire to save people. This is also where they differ. It's actually interesting how they contrast, because they both even admit they admire Stain, Deku really early on in the story says he can understand Stain at least but not Shigaraki. Stain is also, as much of a fanboy of All Might as Deku is. See they admire different aspects of Stain, a character who is meant to be the first instance of blurring the line between hero and villain. A villain character, a murderer, who is explicitly a fanboy of heroes, and unlike Shigaraki doesn't want to destroy heroes entirely just make them better. There's a heroic side to Stain, and a villain side, and Deku admires his heroic intentinos, whereas Spinner admires the lengths Stain will go to to bring about change even if it means taking violent action.

Spinner will just kill people. That's an important part of his character, he is an empathy character, he's an everyman, but he's also very specifically an everyman who joined a terrorist cell to kill people. Spinner is able to make sacrifices for what he determines to be a greater good. He will even sacrifice the many for the few, he'll disrupt the safety of common people in order to get what he thinks is better. However it's because Spinner can empathize with the individual over society, that he's able to make connections with people like Shigaraki and may even become his salvation.

Beating up Shigaraki does not work. The heroes will try and try it again, but it just does not work. Gran Torino told All Might not to try even talking to Shigaraki, and he got worse. Deku got angry and beat the ever loving crap out of Shigaraki, and then he got possessed by AFO and got worse. Endeavor burned Shigaraki alive several times, and then learned his son was also a villain and the situation got worse. Violent suppression is just not going to work for Shigaraki, which is why Spinner's empathy which values individuals over society is being set up as important. Because, the world isn't strictly utilitarian. When an individual is being oppressed, sometimes you have to inconvenience the whole of society, in order to help that one individual. That's what heroes are supposed to do you know, go above and beyond?

I believe the story is setting up these two seemingly opposite points of view, Deku who values the peace of mind of everyone over the suffering of the individual, and Spinner who values an individual like Shigaraki over the whole of society who is also the story's biggest victim and someone in need of saving, in order to make them both compromise with each other. That is, the story is probably setting them up to work together, as people coming from both sides of hero and villain to save Shgiaraki. The pro-heroes just won't reach out to Shigaraki, their strategy again and again has just been to put him down. Deku is someone who wants to save Shigaraki, but his every method so far has failed, because he's very clueless as to how society works.

When they come together from different ends of society and work together their compromise will be able to bring out the strengths of each of their perspective. Spinner is much, much better at looking at the nuance of society than Deku ever will be, because he's been down in the muck fighting in the front lines to begin with. Deku is also someone who will be able to help Spinner direct his actions towards a more just cause, which is something Spinner wants to do, he wants to bring about a more just future like Stain wanted.

Spinner and Deku are probably going to team up, and my evidence for this is how woefully incomplete Uraraka's supposedly grand speech that's supposed to be a turning point in the story is. I think this is at least in part meant to be deliberate, because, Uraraka freezes up in the middle of her speech when she talks about how hard the heroes have it, and how the heroes and the public should be sharing the burden so everyone can smile together in the end, as she thinks about how she deliberately caused Toga to cry by denying her empathy, or even a chance to talk.

DUraraka's speech about how life is just as hard on the heroes and they're suffering right alongside of us, because they're people too, deliberately leaves out the most dehumanized members of society, the villains. Uraraka hasn't yet reached the point where she can tell the public that villains aren't symbols of hatred and fear the same way that heroes aren't symbols of strength, they are all just people struggling in a complicated and messy world because she hasn't reached that point herself. Therefore, Uraraka's speech seems to be only half the solution to the problem of the current society. Heroes have it tough, but, also what about the villains? I'm hoping, Horikoshi deliberately left that out, because the kids are not at a point where they can save their villainous counterparts, and they need someone with the other half of the answer to lead them there.

Therefore, if Uraraka parallels Toga, if Shigaraki parallels Deku, if Dabi parallels Shoto, all in the fact that while being villains on the outside, but also children who need to be saved, because they represent what all three could have grown up into had their lives been a little tougher on them then, what does Spinner parallel to? That's easy, Spinner is going to be the one to save them, because before even any of the kids got to that point of sympathy, Spinner was the one who was trying the hardest to comprehend the motivations of his friends and see them as people. Spinner is going to become the "My Hero" of the villain side and step up as a savior, rather than as a person who needs to be saved. Spinner parallels Deku in that he too, is just an ordinary every dude who can step up to become a hero.

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BnHA Ch.329 - Review, parallels & comparisons

The religious imagery in Ch.326 and Ch.328 wasn’t an accident. Nope, not at all. In 329, Horikoshi continues to use heavy religious language and imagery for AFO, Shigaraki, the PLF.... and Jeany refers to our newest hero ex machina as the heroes’ “salvation.” (Bless his Levi’s joke; I can't believe one of Japan's Top 3 is simping and thinking about vintage denim as the world burns.) All while AFO sits on his throne like Hades with his three-headed hellhound flanking him. And check out this great post on how the AFO quirk-stealing hand hole resembles stigmata.

This has been building up for a while, with Shigaraki in a literal “no man’s land” — he was reborn and “transcended” humanity, a miracle awakening, and we are told he is on a “crusade” to destroy. But he isn’t AFO; he doesn’t want to be an eternal demon lord. Shigaraki is unsure not just of WHO he is — as All Might was — but WHAT he is. Is he human? A god? A demon? Savior or destroyer...or both? Even Shigaraki’s clothes look confused. He has his old (red, I assume) sneakers back, but he’s also wearing what appears to be a suit and a tattered cape, iconic pieces from the stages of his awakening. (This is where I feel compelled to remind everyone that we’ve seen All Might talk about how justice is always born from evil.....)

We also see that the PLF is using Shigaraki and the LOV, with AFO’s encouragement. For example, the PLF holds up Toga as divine light and hope (a mirror of Ochako as the light of hope calling out to persuade citizens), claiming Toga’s tragedy continues because society won’t let her use her quirk freely. And yet, Toga wouldn’t say that her life was a tragedy. She DID use her quirk freely; that WAS her normal, and it’s what got her branded a villain. Toga's tragedy wasn’t an inability to use her quirk; it was other people not accepting her “freakish” quirk and not teaching her a positive way to use her quirk, because she wants friends and a place to belong. I suspect that Toga will not agree with the PLF’s philosophy.

Likewise, the PLF isn’t seeing Shigaraki as their leader, or the one directing their will or conviction. To them, Shigaraki is merely the destroyer so the PLF can “sow the seeds” of the future...specifically, the future where individuals are free to use their quirks. Who else associated Shigaraki with a seed of conviction that needed to grow? STAIN. But unlike the PLF, Stain would not pass judgment on Shigaraki until that seed blossomed. Stain wanted to see Shigaraki’s own conviction grow.

The interesting thing here is why AFO is getting involved with the PLF at all. He doesn’t care about politics. There is an argument he agrees with the PLF, and that explains why he forced a quirk on his "feeble" brother. But that doesn't feel right. We know AFO links quirks with personality, but that doesn't fully explain it either.

It's more compelling to think about how AFO cares about power and manipulation of the masses. In the PLF's ideal world, where strong quirks are what determines a person's worth, AFO is effectively a god and a kingmaker. He can give a strong quirk to the weak for the right price. He can take a strong quirk from someone who doesn't do his bidding. We also know the things AFO is afraid of tend to be collective -- heart, spirit, love. And we learned from Nighteye that a strong collective will can bend fate.

The PLF advisors say, “the cinders of liberation yearn to burn bright.” Hm, cinders sounds a lot like embers…a spark that can be cultivated into a roaring blaze. This is the ideological end battle for the citizens’ hearts — should society burn fiercely in service to others, as Stain says to All Might? Or promote individual liberation above all?

The battle of collectivism vs individualism has always lurked in BnHA, and I’m glad to see it come to the forefront. (It's extra fun in a chapter featuring a “big time maverick from the West” aka a symbol of individualism — the maverick — hailing from a country known for its individualism). Star & Stripe is such an individual, running off on her own to Japan without government approval, that Hawks jokingly wonders if the powers that be will "throw the book" at her when "this" lil apocalypse is over. Hawks also calls her "reassuring," so clearly she's putting Japan's Top 3 at ease, but when she runs into Shigaraki, she sure ain't smiling.

Her taunting line to Shigaraki also hints at the collective vs individual conflict, but in the sense of free will, which AFO loves to twist. I mean, he gave Nagant free will with his "contract" (as opposed to an order). But it does raise the question for Shigaraki -- is any part of him independent of AFO? Is Shigaraki an individual or a collective?

And now we come to Spinner. Spinner is, unlike the rest of the LOV, still of sound mind and body. He was a follower of Stain, a believer in true heroes, and a supporter of Shigaraki destroying the hero society status quo. But Spinner is NOT an AFO lackey. I suspect he stood bodyguard for Shigaraki, not AFO, and AFO’s ego made an incorrect assumption. Does Spinner, as a symbol of heteromorph discrimination who has “led a difficult life,” wish to help the PLF quirk supremacists plant their seeds? Is that really how Spinner will “do justice to his name”? I think this art is a big clue, because the left half sure looks like Stain. And if Stain thinks that even feeble and mortal souls can be heroes...if Stain believes in the collective, well……

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