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#Mage Class
cringefail-clown · 4 months
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so ive been writing out a more indepth analysis of TB!Hal for an ask and its,,, long, but i wanna share this one tidbit about the mage class ive got cooked up on its own:
I’ve got an ask once where someone concluded that Mages are the pathfinders of Homestuck classes, and I really like the implication of it. In the same ask, they summarized that Seers, as the passive counterpart, understand their aspect and steer others with that understanding, while more active Mages experience their aspect and steer others with that experience. (Slight tangent but fr if you’re the person who send this ask (sadly it was from anon) i want you to know that it’s been such a based take i think about it daily, and also i’m kissing you on the lips rn.)
When i was doing research about the classpects, people often concluded that Mages must suffer from their aspect and gain knowledge through that suffering. While both Mages we were introduced to in the original comic, ie. Sollux and Meulin, could steer people into believing that to be the case, i want to propose a different explanation: Mages job is to experience their aspect, and through experiencing it they gain a vast understanding of it. A big part of learning about a new subject is the act of failing at it.
Let’s make an example: if you pick up a pencil and decide to learn how to draw, you won’t produce the next Michelangelo masterpiece on your first try. Or your ten, or one hundredth. But, if you fail and identify why you failed – your proportions were wrong, your shading didn’t match the lighting scenario – and start to consciously avoid making those mistakes again, you’ll start to see the improvement. But the process is slow, and the results often don’t meet our expectations, which is what makes people give up and decide that drawing is just not their thing. Or sometimes people get stuck, frustrated with the lack of improvement, because they haven’t identified what mistakes they’re making and simply keep on making them again and again, instead of steering away from them, which also drives them into quitting.
The art of learning about any subject is a steady stream of constant failures, identifying what went wrong, remembering to avoid it, and at last realizing that you’ve improved and succeeded, and this is what the Mage experience is about. We keep on seeing miserable Mages because they either get overwhelmed and give up on learning about their aspect, instead avoiding experiencing it at all costs, or they gain the knowledge of why they failed and try to guide others with it, but they themselves are unable to apply that same knowledge to their own life, instead falling into the same fucking potholes again and again.
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shopwitchvamp · 6 months
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Mage Skirts 💜✨
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nekropsii · 11 days
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what are your thoughts on the mage class? i think ita really overlooked which sucks bc it sounds cool :(
If you're referring to fans overlooking it, that's because we have little to no solid knowledge of what a Mage actually is. If you're referring to canon overlooking it... Classic Hussie moment. Hussie never really elaborated much on Classpects as a Magic System.
In Sovereignstuck at least, Mage is the Active counterpart to Seer. Defined simply as this:
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Mages have a very unique understanding of and relationship with their Aspect, and they very much so utilize it on purpose. Seers tend to try to explore their Aspect through the opposite one - Rose seeking Void, Terezi seeking Heart - but Mages are much more steadfast and linear in their approach. Base Aspect all the way, baby.
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What's the difference between a mage, sylph, muse, and knight of void?
Mage knows how to screw in a lightbulb but won’t tell you.
Sylph goes around unscrewing lightbulbs humming to themself.
Muse preaches about the value of darkness but doesn’t actually unscrew anything.
Knight slingshots every lightbulb in the house.
None of them can change a lightbulb.
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alicesoinions · 7 months
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Seers and Mages
I think the Homestuck fandom has latched too hard on the idea of powers when trying to determine if Classes are active or passive.
We think of Active Classes as having big, grandiose, self-centered powers, and we don't see Rose or Terezi doing much of that, so we figure Seer is a passive class.
I think it might make more sense to look at what players do, powers or no powers.
Rose and Terezi are always fucking around. Rose was the driving force behind the Beta Kids playing Sburb, she wrecked toilets, she destroyed Sburb's gates. Terezi got a player from another session killed just by screwing around. Both of them are very active; always zipping around and doing things. (and while we don't see much of Kankri, the Signless was one of the more active Ancestors).
And you look at Mages, and... they never act on their own. Sollux and Meulin (and the Disciple) are always acting for someone else - be that Aradia, Kurloz, or the Signless. They never do anything on their own; they're court mages, acting on the beck and call of who they choose to follow. They're very passive.
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jbcrochetwizard · 2 months
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Black Mage amigurumi, warlock beings from the Final Fantasy universe.  Crochet doll measures 8.5” tall.
Amigurumi pattern:  Etsy | Ravelry
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insufferable-homestuck · 10 months
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mages got that slenderman built to em
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dreadedender · 1 year
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Rage Aspect Thoughts
Rage inspires revolution. Rage breaks rules.
Rage knows negative emotions intimately, how to destroy from the inside, how to get under people's skin.
Rage can calm and rage can infuriate. Rage can make the enemy mindless with fury and can pacify betrayers in a session.
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A Witch of Rage is the ultimate destroyer.
They can make anything possible with enough self-justification. Meaning, as long as they stay feeling negative emotions strongly (fear, disappointment, anger, sadness), they can do anything in the moment. Think of it as their flight or fight senses kicking in at extremes, letting them teleport away if they're too upset / too scared, or giving them immense strength and whatever powers they can imagine to fight off what's bothering them. Their powers are handy, but dangerous as they feel negativity so passionately, it can literally destroy them. They have to be careful.
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An Heir of Rage is especially susceptible to feeling rage and is receptive to other's upset emotions. They would able to shift people's rage through showing them how ridiculous their anger is (by mirroring it) or joining them in their anger/dejection and doing so helps them both deal with it together. Once god-tiered, an Heir can embody their aspect, so this could mean an Heir of Rage can shapeshift to what someone fears the most, or become the very bad thoughts that infiltrate their enemies' brains, like entering their minds to create a tailor-made hellscape they can't escape.
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Don't mind me getting a bit personal as I try to describe my thoughts on my Classpect, lol. With how apt Mages of Rage are in sensing negativity, they are able to distinguish who is trustworthy and who isn't, essentially being able to sniff out intent. They have the most potential to be the group therapists. They understand all aspects of Rage, both the good and the bad, and treat it with compassion. They can understand anyone's troubles and be the perfect person to come to for help on what should be fair and how to deal with conflict. On the other hand, the classpect is also stubborn, and when their advice isn't taken, they can take it as a personal affront as their views on an injustice are unbreakable.
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A Thief of Rage hoards all negative attention. They like taking all the blame; wants noteriety to be their brand. It can be a kindness that helps calm others and bring peace to the group, to have someone that's always taking the brunt of everyone's emotions so that they may pass, or it can be disastrous as they cause conflict by hogging all attention, concern, and energy that shouldve been given to the bigger picture problem. They make for a great distraction in battle, able to dodge attacks as enemies can't take their eyes off them, even zapping the very motivation to fight out of them the longer they chase and using it to make their movements faster. They can be the biggest detriment to a session or the biggest surprise asset.
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A Prince of Rage works to soothe. They want things to stay calm and for everyone to work together in harmony. They would never want to rock the boat, never giving in to their anger with an ocean of pacience and understanding. They prefer doing everything they can to motivate people to see the bright side of things, lulling anger and fear into the background. They're the most comforting of people, knowing just what to say to make you wipe away your tears and giving the best hugs.
In god-tier, I can imagine them having the strongest pacifying power out of any Rage player. Just by being in the battlefield, their opponents start feeling chiller and forget what they're even fighting for. Like a teabag seeping in hot water, the effect can slowly take over and turn the tide.
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classpect-tailor · 2 years
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id love to see mage of void, mages already are kinda lackluster to non-existent and i love seeing what people do with them
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Epic Nightlight
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fluttervixen · 1 year
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hello hello!!!! sorry to bother!!! i was wondering if mew could do a classpect edit of a mage of space with a bat or moth theme?? thank mew dear!!!!!
Here you are! Let me know if you'd like any changes ^_^
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bluefoolmadness · 1 year
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Sooo Homestuck day! I made some drawings of my sona with my friends ✌🏻
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en8y · 7 days
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jollysunflora · 1 year
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How I see the Homestuck classes
Tagging @golgothas-terrorr because they inspired me with their own post...
capslock ideas under the cut
THIEF -> TO STEAL YOUR ASPECT FROM OTHERS FOR YOUR OWN GAIN ROGUE -> TO STEAL YOUR ASPECT AND GIVE BACK TO OTHERS
BARD -> DRAINING YOUR ASPECT TO CAUSE THE UNPREDICTABLE AND SUPERNATURAL PRINCE -> YOU DESTROY THE EXCESS AMOUNTS OF YOUR ASPECT HEIR -> TO BE AIDED BY YOUR ASPECT WHEN NEEDED PAGE -> SLOWLY LEARNING TO LEAD USING YOUR ASPECT SEER -> YOU TEACH ABOUT YOUR ASPECT TO OTHERS MAID -> TO SERVE UNDER YOUR ASPECT, USING IT AS A GUIDE
SYLPH -> YOU HEAL USING YOUR ASPECT IN A MAGIC WAY KNIGHT -> TO PROTECT OTHERS BY USING YOUR ASPECT WITCH -> YOU SHAPE AND RESHAPE YOUR ASPECT LIKE IT WERE CLAY MAGE -> YOU EXPERIENCE YOUR ASPECT AND IN RETURN IT UNDERSTANDS YOU
MUSE -> TO BE YOUR ASPECT, THE SPIRIT OF YOUR ASPECT ITSELF LORD ->TO RULE YOUR ASPECT AND ALL IT ENCOMPASSES
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giftofclasspects · 5 months
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Could I have an analysis of a derse mage of rage pretty pleaaaaaaseeeee :DDD ?
you absolutely may!
thoughts on a derse mage of rage below the cut...
so, rage is quite the interesting aspect. in homestuck, the only canon examples we have of rage players are prince and bard, which, surprise surprise, are both destruction classes. it's always difficult to pinpoint what different classes involving rage will be like....
well, looking at mages, we know that they experience their aspect uniquely. they suffer from their aspect, and this leads to them having a knowledge of their aspect that no other player might have.
with that in mind: a mage of rage will suffer from rage in some form. rage also represents chaos, so, perhaps their life is out of their control. perhaps they can only watch their life spiral into madness, with no real grasp on how to fix it for themselves. they might suffer from literal rage, an uncontrollable anger for some reason that they can't seem to fight back.
however, i feel like this will lead them to become a guiding light for their team. they might not know how to help themselves, but they can use what they went through to help others within a chaotic session or situation. maybe they can use their anger to guide another angry player to making choices that're better than what they made in a similar scenario.
in a weird way, when i think of mage of rage, i kind of think of aki hayakawa from chainsaw man! haha
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vis-ku · 3 months
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feeling
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mystae · 6 months
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Stop looking at me with those big ol’ eyes
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