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drondskaath · 10 days
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Misotheist | Vessels by Which The Devil is Made Flesh | 2024
Norwegian Black Metal
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I just recieved an advertisement for religion and I am... amused (/derogatory).
Ah yes, let's give the demonic alter with religious trauma a message praising the thing that helped form it (/sarcasm).
It isn't any of my business what others do or believe in; I do not care as long as it doesn't hurt my headmates.
But I am... displeased with the irony.
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rosasappho · 2 years
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Post more shlav
what’s shlav i’ve never heard of such a thing
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prokopetz · 1 year
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Everything Tumblr has told you about Moby-Dick is absolute bullshit, and everything that Tumblr has told you about Moby-Dick is 100% true. It’s a travelogue fantasy. It’s proto-science fiction. It’s cosmic horror. It’s shockingly original and it’s shamelessly plagiaristic. It’s a misotheistic Christian parable in which the whale is the mask of a cruel, uncaring God and Ahab is Satan himself, not as trickster or as tempter, but as doomed hero. It’s the most gripping thing you’ll ever read. It’s boring as shit. But above all else – and I cannot emphasise this enough – it is filled with Facts About Whales.
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azurescaled-arch · 1 year
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“Oh good, someone else who hates gods.”
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y-rhywbeth2 · 3 months
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Still haven't decided what I think of Gortash's relationship to his religion (or how to word it), but I'm going to try and babble about it anyway. For narrative reasons, I kind of want him to be the middle ground between my interpretations of my Durge (absolute blind, desperate fanaticism) and Ketheric (misotheist, in this for purely transactional reasons).
Like his ties to Bane are based in both transaction and faith: Bane's dogma is correct - or it's the gist of how the world "really works", at least.
"The world is made stronger by mighty and ordered rule" "Tyrannize and destroy the weak, so that all in time become better and stronger." "Laws and rules, not wanton chaos, should reign."
Yay, industry, let's get the giant machine that is society improving and running to standards. The gears of the world do indeed move according to the interactions between the powerful and those who serve. Uncontrolled chaos is undesirable; a firm hand with a death grip on society's jugular is genuinely for the best. You can't trust other people to be competent tyrants so you'd better do it yourself. etc.
Besides, Gortash's worldview appears to be "fuck those born rich for their unearned privilage; also screw the poor who are too weak to better themselves; only people like me who worked themselves to the bone from nothing deserve the power and respect that we/I demanded and took." Bane, the slave from another world who tore the spark of divine power from his former masters, made himself a god and made his former master kneel? I think Bane probably counts as worthy in from that view. Ultimate self-made jackass.
It's transactional, and coloured by his stay in the outer planes, where gods are not as much of a Thing. Having Bane for a boss brings benefits that I suppose outweigh the downsides. Everyone serves a master, whether they blind themselves to it or not, and he picked this one.
But he entered Bane's service with open eyes. He requires Bane's approval because he wants the rewards that come with good service and to avoid the punishments that come with failure. Bane merely compliments Gortash's world, unlike Durge whose entire world is Bhaal.
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pocketslook · 6 months
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SCREW IT
FUCKING SCREW IT .
WHAT IF
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ONFNDHAHAHS I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS THEY WOULD BE SO CUTE
Fucking demon x misotheist canon real..
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optiwashere · 2 months
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As much as I could listen to the same albums over and over again, Fridays are the best because it means an avalanche of new music.
Svdestada's new album Candela is giving me more post-hardcore vibes than their previous albums' punky black metal, but in a fun Shai Hulud metalcore-adjacent kinda way with a dose of Kvelertak.
I'm only on the first listen, but the new Chainsword feels better than their (already good) debut. Bolt Thrower worship is my religion.
Speaking of, the new Misotheist album is a violent flurry of black metal and it's icy, mean, and has some solid riffs. Not too sold on the song lengths, but I could use more listens on this one.
NEW MANTICORA. Dark, heavy power metal my beloved.
A new Spectral Voice record after seven years is leaving another big, silly smile on my face. Cavernous, eerie, otherworldly. God, it's just so for me. It's not the death-doom that really enchants me - the gothic, florid, melodramatic My Dying Brides and Theatres of Tragedy - but I still love it.
Not a new release, but I'm also listening to the Bodies Bodies Bodies soundtrack because Disasterpeace and also because I really should rewatch that movie. After having seen it once a rewatch is probably really fascinating.
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lily-orchard · 1 year
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Hi, Lily! I‘ve been a big fan of your writing for a while now and I wanted a writing tip from you. In my story, I want to introduce a Muslim character. But how can the story acknowledge her religion without shoving it in the audiences faces and without making it her entire character?
I‘m a Muslim Woman of Color myself, but I have no idea what to do.
DISCLAIMER: Without knowing what the actual story is about, I'm not sure anything I say will be of use.
If you're worried about a character being defined by one thing... well most characters are defined by one thing when you think about it. Most character traits are usually an offshoot of one or two core elements of the character. I mean Alie has, ultimately, two defining character traits: Pride in her heritage, and Loss. Everything about her splits off from those two things. This is not a bad thing.
Too many times people define characters by lists of tropes, none of which can really drive a character on their own.
Faith is a pretty defining character trait, it influences a lot about a character. It's one of those fundamental character traits from which a ton of others spin off. It's one of those things that fundamentally influences what a character thinks and believes. And it does so in ways where it doesn't necessarily trace back to it unless you're looking really hard.
But a lot of religious characters tend to be part of a religion and that's it. Their feelings on the matter, their personal relationship to that faith, is often left unsaid. Maybe hinted at, usually derisively (Cough-georgeconstanza-Cough) but otherwise it's just a stated fact and left there.
And for most religious characters, they're usually raised that way so it can't NOT influence most of what a character thinks and believes. It often permeates not just what they're taught but their relationship to their families and the people they love because those things are influenced by faith. And that means their relationship to that faith can change based on how their family behaved.
Hell I became misotheistic partially because I grew up with a Catholic father who abused me.
So I don't think this is a real problem as long as you think about these things. A lot of people don't. A lot of people make a character religious and then... that's it. Throw in some turns of phrases, a few holiday references, and congratulations you're The Nanny.
But if it's a real concern, I understand that. I personally would love to read about a character's relationship to their faith. But to get the point:
Just... give her a second one. A second core element to build her character off already makes her infinitely more complex. I would suggest a memory. A moment in her life that fundamentally affected her and influenced the way she thinks that is separate from her faith. Maybe that and her faith are at odds with each other sometimes. Everyone gets conflicted, even if that moment ends with a self-reassurance that "Actually, I'm fine. I'm okay."
I've often said trauma is an interesting story hook because of the way it fundamentally alters the way someone thinks, but the same can be said for positive or neutral memories as well.
This all takes a while. Characters take a while to really percolate and come together. Oftentimes characters start on a basic, rather shallow level and develop from there and that's fine.
I mean not to degrade my own writing but Alie didn't start on the basis of "Here's a character who has a complicated relationship with heritage, family, and loss." Alie started on the concept that short, melancholy girls dressed in long flowing black robes with curly hair and covered in freckles... look cool. And you want to kiss them.
Yes you specifically.
Hopefully that helped.
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goodbyenorthernlights · 3 months
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Rezo has been running into a few people in-game who, when he mentions Cepheid being a god of things like order, and happiness, respond with a >:\ "SOUNDS SUS" and finding himself have to tamp down his own irritation and defensiveness at this, despite the fact he personally resents his god to the point of being borderline misotheist at times.
Which I find amusing. He's like "NONE OF YOU are REMOTELY QUALIFIED to criticize Cepheid. I'M the one who's been a part of this shitty religion for 120 slutty, slutty years, if anyone's gonna be calling Cepheid a two-faced prick it's going to be ME."
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solmints-messyocdiary · 7 months
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I haven't thought of nun/alt Odile for a while but... her becoming something of a misotheist would be something, huh?
People begging for their life to spare them. Asking God to save them and Odile very coldly looking down at them and very sharply saying that "I am God" before offing them?
People wondering how she knows so much and very smugly replies with a "It's because I'm Satan~" before laughing and saying it's a joke.
Her looking at the saints with disdain in private, but her face changes immediately to that of tenderness once she sees someone has entered the church?
Just being blasphemous and hateful, but she hides it behind a sweet smile.
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ftafp · 1 month
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Gnomish Religion
Gnosticism: The predominant gnomish faith. It is gnotable for being a misotheistic religion that encourages mystical pracitices and values inner gnowledge and escape from the material world above all else
Gnormies: A race of dimwitted and soulless conformists often equated the the idea of a philosophical zombie
Gnobody: A cunning folk hero who was born wit gno arms, go legs, gno head, gno torso, and gno hat. He used his invisibility to sneak up on and slay the mighty cyclops polyphemus
Ungnome: Either the spirits of letters said to have created the gods, or a gnomish bogeyman said to be a mad chocolate maker who lives in your walls. It depends on which sect of Gnosticism you ask
Gnomann: A legendary sentient island that could control the flow of time and the tides. Is said to be a lawless place that consumed the Witch-King of Angmar
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tobiasdrake · 7 months
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Okay but. Felt.
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Temenos is a misotheist after my own heart.
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sunder-the-gold · 1 year
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I really must wonder, what had you invested in the Brother Gods of RWBY? Most people I lurk seemed to just sign them "assholes to be kicked in the nuts" after the Ozma's task reveal. What matter brought you to be rooting for the Brothers, especially their feud, with GoL's side and why? Can you tell me about your insight on the characters of those Brothers and why you think so? These are very genuine questions with genuine curiosity have a nice day drink your water regularly
It never occurred to me to question your genuine curiosity. You’ve shown nothing but sincerity so far.
But you’ve asked a very difficult question, by asking me to compare myself to others. What a minefield.
Obviously, I think I am correct; else I wouldn’t think what I do, and I would change my mind to think something else.
So, if I think something different from the majority, and I think I am right to do so, how do I justify this without supposing myself wiser, smarter, or more compassionate than the majority?
Misotheism
You’ll find advocates who won’t tolerate hearing a single criticism of Team RWBY, and will dismiss any as misogyny. You’ll find critics who can’t say a single good thing about Team RWBY, and for all I know they might well be misogynist. Some of Jaune’s worst critics might be misandrist.
So, maybe the worst critics of the Two Brothers are misotheists -- people inclined to hate gods or any personages in godlike positions of power and authority.
I’m certainly not a misotheist, so I’m not predisposed to hate the gods. I try to judge the gods according to their own actions, as well as according to their perspectives and intentions.
Just Sibling Things
One factor of my sympathy towards the Two Brothers, and the Older Brother in particular, is that I myself am an older brother. My younger brother and I are “Irish Twins”, in that he was conceived relatively shortly after I was born, and so most of our lives we have been roughly equal in size, strength, and skill.
I know what it is like to disagree with such a brother, and to do everything in my power to bend him to my will, including the final resort of violence. I know the ultimate futility of changing someone else’s mind with appeals to reason, appeals to emotion, or even threats of force, and thus the importance of achieving a good relationship based on respect and compromise.
I was also the more creative one, and my brother the more destructive one, though my brother was nowhere near as terrible as the Younger Brother. Unlike the Younger Brother, mine was by far the more sociable of the two of us, so I have an inkling of how the Older Brother couldn’t bring himself to kill the Younger Brother and leave himself alone in the universe... assuming such a feat was even possible for the two of them.
“No” Means “No” (but it doesn’t mean “I hate you”)
I also grew up respecting my mother’s authority and trusting in her love for me. I learned early in life that my parents had limited resources and couldn’t give me everything I asked for, or even everything that they wanted to give me without being asked.
Mother would certainly try to explain herself if I asked Why, but she made it clear very early that she would never tolerate whining or tantrums. If I could not request for something politely or offer a polite counter-argument, the answer would automatically become “No”. Because she wanted my brother and I to know how to persuade other adults by the time we had become adults.
Thinking More Than One Step Ahead
Some people have what I think is called “Phase 1” thinking, where they can only imagine the immediate reaction to an action and they stop there, content that their goal is achieved with no consequences.
For example, they look at how the God of Creation, at best, only bowed his head and turned his eyes away in sorrow as his brother murdered the first humanity. (Some fans don’t even bother to remember that much detail, because it contradicts their headcanon that the Brothers are equally at fault.)
Their Phase 1 thinking is that the Older Brother should have intervened to protect humanity, and then the whole thing would just magically blow over with no consequences.
Phase 2+ thinking is recognizing that is a childish fantasy.
1) There is no way words would have stopped this war. Words didn’t stop the God of Destruction during the divine war; limited violence followed by words of reconciliation did.
2) The Younger Brother was rearing for a physical fight just from the Older Brother barging into his room to enforce the rules they had agreed upon. For his brother to assault him after humanity did, and to do so while actually breaking their rules himself*, there’s no way the God of Destruction wouldn’t fight back. *(At least, it makes absolute sense that their original agreement would include “If they ever choose Destruction to the point of trying to destroy US, then I win our Destruction versus Creation bet and I get to destroy them.” Followed by the canonical compromise “best two out of three; I get a second chance to show they will choose Creation”.)
3) A divine fistfight between gods who can casually destroy a planet is going to result in far more collateral damage than when there was no planet for the God of Creation to worry about. As Ozpin told Pyrrha “You’d only get in the way”, but Remnant had no power to flee from the fight like Pyrrha could.
4) This isn’t the first time the God of Creation has been helpless to save his creations from his brother destroying them. This isn’t the first time his heart has been broken. Sectors of the fandom live to talk about psychological abuse and the ways that abuse-victims try to protect themselves from more pain, and they’ll forgive Cinder’s abuse of Emerald because of Cinder’s own past of abuse, but somehow that doesn’t apply to the God of Creation who NEVER WANTED things to get this bad.
The God of Life has a pool of immortality just laying around waiting to be used, and his brother is the God of Death, and people place equal blame on the God of Life that his equal and opposite demands that people die.
Because the God of Death resurrected ONE mortal out of envy for his brother and for his own flattered ego, that somehow erases the fact that he’s logically the ultimate reason why Ozma died in the first place, and it means that Salem didn’t actually need to hear the explanation she didn’t want to hear from the God of Life about why he couldn’t afford to bring Ozma back even though he wanted to.
Phase 1 thinking. The next phase would be realizing that if the Older Brother hadn’t intervened, the Younger Brother would have found himself constantly inundated by humans begging for their loved ones back, and when he would inevitably refuse, they would begin shouting at him like Salem shouted at his brother, and like others certainly shouted at the Older Brother many times before Salem.
And I don’t think the God of Destruction would have responded to angry demands as gracefully as his brother.
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