#RWBY Remembrance
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I'm hearing secondhand (so someone correct me if I'm wrong) that the "Don't Come Back" is directed at Ironwood and I'm really just trying to wrap my head around this? First of all, there appears to only be one large gravestone, so I assume this is a list of all the names of those known to have died in Atlas—Ironwood included. That would explain why Winter's internal dialogue is talking to Team RWBY right before she uses her powers (I think?) to write the message and the animation note that Qrow is (lovingly) wiping dust off of the names. It looks like there's a list and, after most everyone else has left the ceremony, Winter is just desecrating Ironwood's name.
Which is... really something. I don't use the term "desecrating" lightly. Putting aside the fact that Ironwood was an ally, friend, and mentor for years vs. being a villain for a matter of hours—I always think back to how Ozpin still wanted to protect Lionheart's name despite his betrayal. That love doesn't just up and disappear—that's a HELL of a disrespectful act. Contextually, I'd feel different if this message had been left by some random Mantle citizen who has neither the full story nor any personal connection to Ironwood, but as said, it looks like Winter is leaving it. I'd also potentially feel differently if this clip didn't a) re-frame Clover as worthy of a fond remembrance despite his own (supposed) fall and b) if Willow and Whitley weren't traipsing around the city their family has historically screwed over, with Whitley talking about how he refuses to hide. The recent implosion of the Titan sub has sparked a lot of conversation about whether billionaires deserve to be mourned post-death and, more generally, when suffering hardships. I'm not going to try and hash out my own complicated feelings on that in a RWBY post, but suffice to say I'd better understand it if the show had taken a clear stance on whether powerful, obscenely wealthy, military-aligned characters as a whole deserve compassion. Winter the emotional center of the epilogue, Willow is meant to inspire sympathy when her charity leads to accusations, Whitley should presumably be praised for his courage in embracing who he is, Clover is mourned by Qrow and implied to be the source of his miraculous self-improvement, Marrow is now a friend, all these characters who embody all that RWBY despises are granted that forgiveness... but the man who no longer can try to improve himself isn't? This feels like the most egregious example of RWBY's moral double standards since Ruby herself started repeating Ozpin's lies.
So there's this level of disrespect towards Ironwood as a character that, really, is no surprise given how he's been treated since Volume 8, but even beyond that it's a weird moment. How did Ironwood's name end up on the tombstone if Winter—who as the Maiden leading these refugees into Vacuo and continuing to take point in these "meetings" must surely have had a say in these memorials—was just going to desecrate it? It feels like the writing included Ironwood there not because any of the characters actually fought to properly mourn him, but because they wanted the setup for the message itself; the actual implications of him being on the tombstone at all go unacknowledged and, as a result, are unimportant. The only takeaway is that circumstances provide the perfect opportunity to insult his memory. On top of all this, what does that message even mean? As said, it's a weird-ass moment because who blasts their enemy with their magic powers, watches him get crushed and drowned under the destruction of an entire kingdom... and then tells him not to "come back"? It's such a specific, seemingly illogical insult—within the context of what Winter knows—especially when other, more generic insults would have gotten the point across. If I were to visit someone's grave to desecrate it (which, you know, I don't lol) I wouldn't write "Don't come back" because they're dead. Of course they're not coming back! Why would that even enter my mind as something to warn them against?
All of which is to say I worry that, like Penny, RT is planning a resurrection for Ironwood. The writers have a well-established habit of writing scenes based on what they know, not what the characters know or what's been established in canon, so there's a part of me that wonders if that message was chosen because they're planning a miraculous survival with, unfortunately, Villain!Ironwood 2.0. They already know they plan for him to return if Volume 10 is greenlit and thus that influences Winter's actions.
Regardless of Ironwood coming back or not, it's just a disappointing scene on every front for me. I understand that a lot of fans despise Ironwood and, much like with Adam, are inclined to accuse others of not getting the story they want (a version that is framed as objectively bad + morally wrong), but can we just acknowledge that regardless of how you feel about him, the writers haven't treated Ironwood well? You can make Ironwood a villain. You can kill him off. You can even have the other characters despise him so much that they desecrate his part of a communal grave. But when you consider that many fans really like his character and then compare him to how others are treated in the series, how RT talks about him, how the community responds to anyone who enjoys his long run in the show... it's staggeringly clear that, no, his character has not been treated well and that's what people remain upset over. Not that any of these plot points occurred, but that they've occurred with none of the setup and nuance and respect needed to make them compelling for anyone who doesn't just want to rail against Ironwood as a matter of course. That should be understood for any character, but Ironwood's unique status as a triple amputee with PTSD and a semi-canonical mental illness-based semblance makes that lack of respect all the more galling. RT doesn't have to do anything specific with their story, but if they're going to go this route at least do it with purpose and do it well.
It doesn't help that Ruby, the one who actually destroyed the Kingdom and whose message was logically supposed to bring deadly waves of grimm and who started this whole divide by perpetuating the secrets she despised Ozpin for, is given martyr-like murals. Like, it's a strong visual contrast. I'm not saying Ruby doesn't deserve to be mourned and celebrated—I want Qrow to actually act like he lost two family members!—I'm saying the show continues to treat the protagonists as ethically separate from the rest of the world and the rules that everyone else must adhere to.
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probably my silliest, "what does it mean???" obsession in rwby is, well. mistral / anima has bunch of towns named after flowers in japanese, which all come with a meaning in japanese language of flowers. this already comes up in few ways in V4: rnjr arrive in shion (remembrance) in an episode called 'remembrance', and the town qrow and raven have their meeting in is called higanbana (never to meet again, abandonment).
one of those towns—or, well, a city—is called kuchinashi; secret love. the city itself isn't mentioned by any character in particular, the name only shown on a signpost pointing towards the same direction as mistral. that alone wouldn't be much, but then... one of the posters on argus movie theater is for "tryst in the mist" with mistral as a background and at that point it's like. okay. is there something going on or am i going too deep with this?
who knows, but it's silly and fun, so i'm going to keep thinking about it until the end of times.
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RWBY Volume 4 Episode 2
Remembrance
The Schnee family decorates like an entire clan of Ice Type Gym Leaders from any given Pokemon game.
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Do you know Any rwby fanfic writers who avoid the Jaune harems and all the weird male power fantasies?
Brace yourself! I've compiled a lot!
www.archiveofourown.org/users/TaiyangTooLong/pseuds/TaiyangTooLong
www.archiveofourown.org/users/AnnyGomez/pseuds/AnnyGomez/works?fandom_id=767851
www.archiveofourown.org/users/mylordshesacactus/pseuds/mylordshesacactus
www.archiveofourown.org/users/y8ay8a/pseuds/y8ay8a
www.archiveofourown.org/users/Patcho418/gifts
www.fanfiction.net/s/13780626/1/Heart-of-Glass
www.archiveofourown.org/users/Patcho418/pseuds/Patcho418
www.archiveofourown.org/users/chaoticevilspacewitch/pseuds/chaoticevilspacewitch
www.archiveofourown.org/users/Weikwriter/pseuds/Weikwriter/works?fandom_id=767851
www.archiveofourown.org/users/Gearbox_Sys/pseuds/Gearbox_Sys/works?fandom_id=767851
www.archiveofourown.org/works/47226424/chapters/118994818
www.archiveofourown.org/users/0Walpurgis0/pseuds/0Walpurgis0
www.fanfiction.net/s/12153942/1/RWBYond-Hope
www.archiveofourown.org/users/SapphicSnow/pseuds/SapphicSnow/works?fandom_id=767851
www.archiveofourown.org/users/ElCuervo/pseuds/ElCuervo/works?fandom_id=767851
www.youtube.com/@kaleidoarms
www.youtube.com/@CrumblingCube
www.youtube.com/@AliAvian
www.youtube.com/@MarkZschiegnerII
www.archiveofourown.org/users/ASociallyAwkwardDuckling/pseuds/ASociallyAwkwardDuckling/works?fandom_id=767851
www.archiveofourown.org/users/hadesisqueer/pseuds/hadesisqueer/works?fandom_id=767851
www.archiveofourown.org/users/LloydWallace/pseuds/LloydWallace/works?fandom_id=767851
www.archiveofourown.org/users/eviestevie/pseuds/eviestevie
www.tumblr.com/ao3feed-bmblb
www.archiveofourown.org/works/12290085
Secrets of the Rebound Queen and the Blonde Bastard by TheTrueOverlordBear
www.fanfiction.net/s/12285595/1/A-Day-of-Remembrance
www.fanfiction.net/s/13432171/1/Hair-Tai
www.fanfiction.net/s/13780245/1/Teaching-Qrow
www.youtube.com/@rwbyab7423
www.archiveofourown.org/users/Battlecruiser/pseuds/Battlecruiser
www.archiveofourown.org/users/I_Dance_2_Silence/pseuds/I_Dance_2_Silence/works?fandom_id=767851
www.archiveofourown.org/users/scham__2001/works
www.archiveofourown.org/users/lesbug/pseuds/lesbug/works?fandom_id=767851
www.archiveofourown.org/users/Mikotyzini/pseuds/Mikotyzini/works?fandom_id=767851
www.tumblr.com/rwbymixedhings/674165555358564353/rwvy-fan-fiction-recommendation-list
this contains a list of various crackships. Not necesarily my cup of tea, but its still likely to be something you're interested in.
www.archiveofourown.org/users/smearglexd/pseuds/smearglexd/works?fandom_id=767851
www.tumblr.com/justharoo/723459625401401344/im-building-a-list-of-a-fanfic-writers-in
www.archiveofourown.org/users/1shotwriter/pseuds/1shotwriter/works?fandom_id=767851
Magewrites94
SchneeDoTTy
Power_Taco
Eva_96
noonetofake
xxwhiterose
Golden_Boy_The_Ladykiller
Mikotyzini
www.archiveofourown.org/users/Remnant_Bardock1991
www.archiveofourown.org/works/33285073/chapters/88776874 one last patch before the war
www.archiveofourown.org/series/2473513 of black feathers and white petals
www.archiveofourown.org/works/31044632/chapters/76689932 thus kindly we scatter
www.archiveofourown.org/users/Kablob/pseuds/Kablob/works?fandom_id=767851
Well? Will these do?
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If its no problem can i get kali x ghira x willow?
SFW RWBY Headcanno Tropical Snow (Kali x Willow x Ghira)
Willow was very unfamiliar with foreigners culture, she had no idea the two Belladonna’s believed in polygamy, so was very taken aback when both showed up to her date with ghira.
Kali couldn’t stand to see Willow destroy herself with alcohol. And put her on a self-help diet and therapy plan, Willow has never looked in better shape, and not just physically.
Ghira has found Willow’s shrewd and slightly cynical personality to be helpful with his job of running menagerie.
Willow seems to almost always be cold at night, which the cat faunus love; they can often be found at night, snuggling up to her to cool off.
Although a culture shock at first, moving to Menagerie, Willow has found it very pleasant change of pace. Especially when Ghira and Kali took her to the nudist beach~
When Kali and Ghira decided to add Willow to there marriage, she had one request. She wanted to keep her name in remembrance of her father, which the two understood, even though most peoples associated it with her late husband. 
(I assume you meant wholesome, so that’s what I did, if you want the other type don’t be afraid to asks again 😇😈)
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a WIP fanart of allura from @scattered-winter's RWBY AU!
Im so excited to ramble about the rest of KPHL's designs :D when I get them done (AND WEAPONS I CANT WAIT TO GEEK OUT AND DRAW WEAPONS WHEN I GET THE TIME!!!)
i used pink a lot more as an accent color cuz I thought it would be cool if the altean color of remembrance was part of her motif since it kinds works for the in cannon reason of color being used to express teams/individuals
I wanted to add more white since her last name is snow in this AU so that should be her main color scheme... but dang I really like Wesis's V8 outfit THE BLUE SUITS HER OKAY?!?!!?
so sorry if I got anything wrong, i might change the boots later(no clue if I'm allowed to tag u srry about that)
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#rwby#rwde#ruby rose#weiss schnee#blake belladonna#yang xiao long#jaune arc#nora valkyrie#pyrrha nikos#lie ren
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Now I’m so curious as to the Paths of the rwby characters omg. You said they’re gonna be mostly The Hunt, but that some are gonna change?
Yeah they’re all almost entirely The Hunt/the Path of their home nation with some exceptions.
For reference, Atlas follows Erudition, Mistral follows Harmony, Vale and Vacuo follow Hunt, White Fang follow Nihility, and the Grimm come from Propagation and Finality
Each character and their Path is what they are as of their most recent appearance in RWBY canon, whether that’s time of death, last scene, or as of the v9 epilogue. Some minor characters have not been included as I don’t believe they are necessarily Pathwalkers/forgot about them when this list was made. It’s safe to assume that any non-mentioned Huntsmen follow the Path of The Hunt
Additional note, the line in my post about there only being 4 Emanators in Remnant outside of Ozpin and Salem is still technically true as of the information that Ozpin knows. All other Emanators are mysteries to him and were not intentional. The wills of the Aeons is strange…
Team RWBY
Ruby Rose, The Hunt, wind
Weiss Schnee, The Erudition, ice
Blake Belladonna, The Harmony, formally Nihility, quantum
Yang Xiao-Long, The Preservation, fire
Team JNPR -> ORNJ
Jaune Arc, The Preservation, physical
Nora Valkyrie, The Destruction, lightning
Pyrrha Nikos, The Hunt, physical
Lie Ren, The Harmony, formerly The Hunt, physical
Oscar Pine, The Trailblaze, imaginary
Beacon Teachers
Ozpin, The Hunt, Emanator, formerly Permanence, Emanator, imaginary
Glynda Goodwitch, The Erudition, quantum
Bartholomew Oobleck, The Erudition, fire
Peter Port, The Erudition, physical
Beacon Alumni
Qrow Branwen, The Preservation, quantum
Raven Branwen, The Nihility, Emanator, quantum
Taiyang Xiao-Long, The Abundance, physical
Coco Adel, The Beauty, physical
Fox Alistair, The Hunt, physical
Velvet Scarlatina, The Hunt, imaginary
Yatsuhashi Daichi, The Hunt, formerly Remembrance, physical
Salem’s Circle
Salem, The Finality, Emanator, formerly The Propagation, Emanator, quantum
Cinder, The Destruction, Emanator, fire
Leonardo Lionheart, The Finality, formally Harmony, physical
Mercury Black, The Finality, formerly Nihility, physical
Emerald Sustrai, The Nihility, imaginary
Hazel Rainhart, The Nihility, formerly Preservation, lightning
Arthur Watts, The Finality, formerly Erudition, quantum
Tyrian Callows, The Finality, wind
Tock, The Finality, imaginary
Atlas Citizens
James Ironwood, The Abundance, Emanator, formally Preservation, physical
Winter Schnee, The Erudition, Emanator, ice
Clover Ebi, The Equilibrium, physical
Harriet Bree, The Equilibrium, physical
Vine Zeki, The Equilibrium, imaginary
Elm Ederne, The Equilibrium, imaginary
Marrow Amin, The Equilibrium, quantum
Robyn Hill, The Preservation, imaginary
May Marigold, The Preservation, quantum
Fiona Thyme, The Preservation, imaginary
Joanna Greenleaf, The Preservation, physical
Jacques Schnee, ew.
Willow Schnee, The Erudition, ice
Penny Polendina, The Erudition, Emanator, ice, formerly physical
The White Fang
Adam Taurus, The Nihility, fire
Ghira Belladonna, The Harmony, physical
Kali Belladonna, mother of Blake
Illia Amitola, The Trailblaze, formerly The Nihility, lightning
Fennec and Corsac Albain, The Nihility, fire & wind
These Two
Roman Torchwick, The Elation, physical
Neo Politan, The Elation, Emanator, quantum
Team SSSN -> SSSNN
Sun Wukong, The Trailblaze, imaginary
Scarlet David, The Hunt, wind
Sage Ayana, The Hunt, physical
Neptune Vasilias, The Preservation, lightning
Nolan Porfirio, The Hunt, lightning
Other Huntsmen
Arslan Atlan, The Hunt, physical
Bolin Hori, The Hunt, physical
Reese Chloris, The Hunt, quantum
Nadir Shiko, The Hunt, physical
Brawnz Ni, The Hunt, physical
Roy Stallion, The Hunt, physical
May Zedong, The Hunt, physical
Nebula Violette, The Hunt, physical
Dew Gayle, The Hunt, wind
Gwen Darcy, The Hunt, physical
Octavia Ember, The Hunt, fire
Maria Calavera, The Hunt, Emanator, quantum
Book Only
Carmine Esclados, The Beauty, wind
Bertilak Celadon, The Nihility, physical
If you’ve got any further questions about this AU, feel free to send them my way!!
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Requiem
He ripped his sword from her chest. Blood trickled from the blade’s scorched edge. Crimson leaked out of a long cut across his forehead. White and gold tainted by charred black and liquid red.
The Maiden’s final expression had been one of horror. Dried tears remain dormant. A red sash tied around her throat, incarcerating her to a jutting piece of metal.
Even now, she infuriated him. He wanted to stab her again and again and again and again until she was an unrecognizable mound of flesh.
Her cowardly, childlike terror made him shake in rage.
But… it didn’t matter.
Nothing mattered anymore.
Raggedly, he clawed at oxygen, trying to force it into his lungs. The knight stumbled backwards and fell to his knees.
His mind should be racing, should be panicking, but he wasn’t. No, only two voices reached his bleeding ears.
Everyone’s gone.
We won.
The longer his eyes lingered on the growing puddle of blood reaching for him, the closer he slipped.
It didn’t matter.
His scream built deep in his soul. A guttural, shaky cry of torment. It shaped into sobs. His chest heaved violently, surrounded by his friends.
Burying them was torture. Pure hell.
It hurt.
God, it hurt.
It hurt so bad that his physical wounds went numb and all that remained was the crushing emptiness.
His final straw… Weiss.
Her cold, beautiful face… pale. He thought if he cried hard enough the universe would pity him and somehow, someway… bring them back.
Each excruciating toss of the shovel, each layer slowly sealing her body forever.
And he prayed he went with them, that he could join her in eternity.
He shut her eyes permanently with gentle hands.
Their graves were marked. In order. By team.
‘Heroes of Remnant.’ That’s what the carving in the oak read.
It cradled them, sheltered their souls. Large and full of life.
The sun soaked him in warmth. It’s counterpart fell below the horizon, making way for a new day.
He sat alone by the cliff, watching a miracle color the sky in cool yellow. If one studied him, they could tell no difference between his gaze and a corpses gaze.
Wind caressed the field of plush, emerald grass, weaving in between blades and branches, tenderly dancing with nature.
Below him, crystal blue waves washed over sand, overtaking the shore as it the tide came in.
He closed his eyes and felt…
Alone.
“Cleanup efforts continue as more injured and deceased are unearthed from debris. The death toll climbs every day, now reaching 200 with 500 more missing. But, today, a discovery was made. Nine named graves and a message: ‘Heroes of Remnant’. These heroes were the members of huntsman teams RWBY and RENO. Heroes… valiant and courageous… All of us, everyone; we should be thankful brave souls such as those men and women gave up their years, so we could live out ours. There is a missing marker, however. Jaune Arc is noticeably absent. Authorities mark him MIA and plan to begin searching in two weeks.”
Two years later.
A cloaked, bearded figure stands atop a hill overlooking Vale. Cranes and maintenance crews rebuild the city brick-by-brick. Wooden structures towering like skyscrapers, fields of rubble cleared in one fell swoop. Past the new buildings and heavy machinery, proudly displayed for passing travelers paying their respects… murals.
Decorated in ornate designs. Flowers cloaking the courtyard around their dirt beds. A rainbow assortment.
Pictures of the fallen behind their tombs.
The figure bent down to removed topsoil and placed his remembrances. A blooming memory for each. He looked on with a hard gaze and straight mouth.
In his hand, an edelweiss. Full of life and compassion. Strong, regal, beautiful.
Pale as the winter landscape.
His eyes glistened as the sun set. He placed her gently, curling his finger around a petal for the last time.
The figure allowed himself a solemn, ghostly smile.
And he left.
#rwby whiteknight#rwby volume 9#white knight#jaune x weiss#jaune arc#Wanted to write a depressing ending cause that would go hard#Weiss Schnee x Jaune arc#jaune arc x weiss schnee
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hey! how r u? i was wondering: in ur au, what are you planning to do with dust? there's so much to do with it but we dont really get like... an in depth look on it in the show. b/c think about it...... salami makes this huge speech in the begining about mankind, and hope, and dust and whatever with ozpin countering her speech. and then there's the whole "lets rob the dust shop!" thing with roman in the beginning. But like how are there different kinds of dust? what are their normal uses? etc etc.
So my entire conception of Dust is based on one, one fanart I saw ages ago on this very site, but for the life of me I could never find it again, and it fills me with regret. It was all the way back in the Volume 2-3 era.
It was a GIF of Team SSSN lying together bloodied on a field, and as they were dying, their chests were glowing before their bodies faded away and all that was left were Dust crystals. If anyone ever finds it and the artist again let me know.
That one image kickstarted an entire headcanon: Dust as literal fossil fuel.
The basic idea I worked with was that all living beings had Aura, even plants and microbes. When they die, traces of their Aura remains and undergoes a crystallisation process, becoming Dust after a few months-years.
There's been many a doc and draft written about the mechanics of this and how each Kingdom treats Dust as a philosophy. This my current system, though it might still need some tweaks in regards to figuring out their cultural impact on the setting:
There's also a (tentative) mechanic called Remembrance, where given the origin of this Dust, it gains and refills power from remembrance and people recalling memories of loved ones - which is why historically Dust has a strong religious/spiritual connotation and were often placed in shrines and memorials.
As for Dust types and what elements combine into which... I'm not touching that - that shit's scary, lol. The amount of headaches a bunch of us in the server had to figure out the complex ways Dust types interacted were too much and sort of strayed into lore bloat territory, which didn't really match RWBY's more simplistic, individualised approach to its power systems, so that's still a question mark for me.
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the bad defenses to korrasami or bb ( the but there arent many canon lgbt rep ships defense) and other things
with korrasami I recall one person going korrasami is the only same sex ship in lok claiming that if you arent alright with that you dont care about the lgbt community
sorry you can still carea bout lgbt rep and lgbt community and still say that korrasami shouldnt have happened even if it meant there were not examples of lgbt rep in legend of korra because good writing is more important then lgbt rep
for korrasami was just a last minute retcon that came at the cost of breaking the narrative ( which pointed to makorra) by throwing korrasami in at the last two minutes at cost of korra being ooc ( her going on a vacation is completely ooc) korra and asami were barely friends they barely interacted with each other you cant claim censorship prevented them from even interacting that much
while narrative pointed to makorra ( heck in the very finale itself when they talked about not finding korra they focused on makos worry not asami )
mako was the one who went with korra to confront zaheer while asami did nothing and would have no reason not to go) mako was the one who supported her
korra in remembrances asami tried to help her going of course we need you youre the avatar which failed (because korras whole problem was focusing on her being the avatar)
mako got a speech about what korra meant to him as a person tenzin helped korra by focusing on korra the person.
asami and korras personalities were incompatible with each other and barely friends
(you have to wear shipping goggles to see any evidence like the car scene claim in v3 which was the first time they were friends ( or the but the letter argument ( one letter which korra sent as venting doesnt mean closeness )
it doesnt really matter that korrasami not being canon would mean there wasnt any lgbt rep (its funny how people try to act like we should be okay with makorra not being canon because there are other shows where the hets hip becomes canon as if thats all we care about the genders involved which comes off as projecting they are focused on the fact there arent many same sex ships htat are canon they would be upset at it not being canon just based on the genders involved
) sorry but it doesnt matter that there arent many canon same sex ships good writing is more important this reminds me of a post about the argument people try to make for blackwashing white characters that there are way more white characters available when there is the option of just making new characters and doing your best so they will get attention/popularity the work that characters like peter or wolverine got they werent popular from the start but they got more popular overtime due to people falling in love for those characters even if at first they dont get that much attention this happens with all types of shows
rather then forcing a same sex ship at the last minute make a show with the canon same sex ship which got buildup , development etc that it should get ( even if you have to be subtle about it. ( lets say if mako was a girl and asami was a guy or if korra was a guy from the start I would still ship makorra and korra/asami ship would be almost nonexistent I feel like part of the reason korra and asami was popular was due to irrational hate for mako and the fact they are two attractive girls the whole you would ship it if it was a het ship accusation comes off as projection
( to be honest I hear people bring up censorship with sailor neptune and uranus but one of the things I hear was that they didnt change anything else about it so people still found it weird that just cousins were that close ( coincidentally from what I hear in japan cousins dating isnt considered weird so in japan a same sex couple who involved 2 cousins wouldnt be weird ) I dont mean anything by putting it hear its just a thought I had)
and same thing with rwby ( the accusation that if you dont support a specific same sex ship say its forced in favor of a het ship you somehow dont care about the lgbt community or that we have t osupport that specific same sex ship because of lgbt rep is a idiotic argument especially when I hear the same people who claimed ilia being gay was bad because she was on the bad guys side by their logic they should be happy just because its lgbt rep you shouldnt care about anything else besides that its rep
of course the claims of psycho lesbian was bs but their logic is that all that matters is lgbt rep adn that we have to support it no matter what when they try to act like we have to support bb because its a same sex ship that its lgbt rep
when it reeks of direction change
they gave blacksun years of teasing mutual attraction and development since v1 to v6 goodbye scene while bb didnt get anything
sun was very important for blakes character development and followed her to help her out not caring about getting anything out of it
( I find it funny when they try to call blake and yang beauty and beast played straight as romantic ship when it fits blacksun more given the above mentions) with adam being an inversion/subversion ( people try to claim that it was planned from the start if it was then why was it done so badly why didnt they start teasing it until v7 at worst ( last two eps of v6 at best though nothing there was inherently romantic moment all of it could be considered platonic moments ( I have seen some bb shippers try to use the other romantic moments for a different ship as a stepping stool for bb ignoring the context , the way the characters acted etc were different
like the argument that since renora got a plane scene that means that blake and yang having a moment on the plane scene where their hands touched is romantic when the way the characters acted and the scenes were portrayed were different not to mention renora being flagrant since v1
renora: plane scene focused solely on them and nora did lay head on shoulders thing as the music about noras love for ren is brought up and the scene is solely focused on them
the blake and yang moment: a moment where blake was feeling pset yang holds her hand to comfort her reciprocating the motion blake did when yangs hand shook ( which blake also did when weiss was facing jacques ( she held her hand in the same way ) and ruby also proceeding to comfort blake it was more like a team rwby scene
there is no doubt in my eyes that if sun and yangs genders were swapped or blakes gender was swapped their would be crys of queerbaiting people would say it doesnt matter that the songs had the words black the beast or yellow beauty in them.
(lets be real here the songs arent canon in rwby and the fact that blake and yangs songs include those lines doesnt = them being planned from the start
its ignoring the idea that blake and yang could both end up in relationships with different people with someone representing the beast or beauty etc with them just having a platonic relationship and those lines being there to emphasize the partnership ( I mean adam had multiple allusions to beast but he ended up an enemy they have no problem pulling twists on allusions or not retelling the story due to that being too predictable )
there was even a post talking about sun being the yang to blakes yin and the beauty to her beast and there beign someone who would need to be yangs yin /beast ( there wouldnt be anything wrong with this )
lets be real here with bumbleby you cant even whine and go there woldnt be any lgbt couples
there is also freezerburn ( I know a good number of anti bb people who either out right ship it or say they should have just done that if they wanted to have a same sex ship involving two girls in team rwby) or possibility of yang being paired up with a side character etc ( if we are focused on yang) if you want a mc to be lgbt
ignoring the lgbt side characters like jaunes sister
its funny how they would complain about a lgbt characters being on the bad guys side even if they are meant to have redemption nad change sides
then they will talk about just wanting a lgbt character for another show when it comes offf as them just wanting a specific character to be lgbt or specific characters to be in a same sex ship
It reminds me of a post someone made complaining that when there is a popular same sex ship they either pair them up with men
or have one of them end up in a same sex ship with someone else which just illustrates that its not about lgbt rep its their specific same sex ship they ship. like imagine this scenario instead of yang being with blake she would be with weiss)
it shows that they jst use the fact its a same sex ship as a shield from criticism or claim it should happen just because its a same sex ship if that was all about they should be happy about their being a same sex ship period a typical ship war only their defense is colored by lgbt rep ( not to mention some people fetishizing that stuff)
I even recall hearing about bb shippers attacking freezerburn shippers saying it would be better for freezerburn to be canon while blacksun happens given that blacksun got years of teasing mutual attraction and development that it would be bad writing to throw it out.if it was just about wanting a same sex ship they should be okay with freezerburn.
or to use this regarding lgbt characters they should be okay if the first lgbt character ending up being with the villain side or say its wrong to criticize any faults with the lgbt character )
if all that matters if itsgood writing
it reminds me of this statement
‘Final Fantasy XVI’ Producer On The Game’s Alleged Lack Of Ethnic Diversity: “We Simply Want The Focus To Be Less On The Outward Appearance Of Our Characters” ( the notion that its wrong or racist to make a game with a lack of ethnic diversity rolls my eyes)
people should be allowed to focus on the characters in the ship , the characters relationships etc rather then filling in a quota which doesnt need to be met the notion that there needs to be a quota for a lgbt characters is bs it doesnt matter that korrasami is the only same sex ship still shouldnt have happened there wouldnt be anything wrong with that
caring about lgbt people doesnt mean you have to demand or think there should be a quota for lgbt relationships in a show writing a show where there isnt a same sex ship doesnt make you homophonic and the but korrasami is the only same sex ship put having lgbt ships canon above whether or not you think its good writing. and will baselessly try to use the genders involved as a shield by claiming homophobia which means nothing its just a ship
and the fact they go route says to me that deep down they now korrasami was nonexistent but because of desire for lgbt rep either fetishizing it or due to a genuine desire for lgbt rep and having a bs idea that because there were tons of canon het couples it would be okay to throw away one het couples buildup for a last minute retcon is annoying
that they are the ones who let genders involved blind their view of the ship
same thing applies to bb it was popular from the start because they were two girls they were friends but didnt get anything hinting at romance till v7 while they took any postiive interaction even the most minor as evidence for their ship wearing thick shipping goggles like v3 finale trying to claim adams statement about destroying everything blake loves which includes friends and family. to try and claim it means yang is a romantic interest when it doesnt while trying to do the best to ignore the actual teasing mutual attraction and development blacksun got since v1 finale to v6 ep 1 goodbyee scene which wasromantic in portrayal)
like someone trying to turn him into a wingman when he never was he tried to get blake sent to her friends Ihave seen people try to bs and claim there was anything about the scene he saw in v3 that would point to blake having romantic feelings when it was blake being upset that her friend lost her arm because of her
I even saw someone try to claim that sun not getting injured permanently is evidence which is bs
or going well blake didnt got shield sun from ilia after he got hurt ignoring that ilia immediately focused o nher while adam went towards yang to hurt her more .
( adam knows nothing about blakes relationship with yang
( none of the v6 finale moments were inherently romantic I have seen people argue that since renora got a plane scene that means blake and yang scene must be romantic no it doesnt and the way the characters were acting were different basically framing and context are different
which points to renora being romantic and blake and yang being platonic moment
sun winking at blake in v1 being viewed as ship tease doesnt mean we have to view yang winking at blake like that yang asking blake for the dance isnt romantic friends can dance
the framing and context for blacksun scene pointed to ship tease angelic choir the slow motion and focus on blakes face while nothing about yang winking was treated as special if you were to remove the names and genders and showed these two scenes two someone they would pick blacksun for romantic ship not to mention yang winked at many people before
while blacksun dance got actual focus
to quote something I have seen before
I think my initial disdain for the way Sun and Neptune are written came from how sick and tired I am of straight ships being forced on the audience when lots of us are in the lgbta community. Part of it was because my gay ships were sinking I’ll admit but honestly I’m just sick of forced straight ships especially in one of the only shows with enough well written female characters to /actually/ have believable gay ships. I don’t think I hate Sun and Neptune but I do hate how forced the ships are.
I think this is all the explanation needed(and all you need to dismiss people trying to take moral superiority over liking Bumblebee). Something the toxic side of the fandom loves to do is project and project hard. They cannot understand why someone would not think like them or like the things they do unless there’s something wrong with them or they contextualize it through what they themselves would do.And that’s one of them accidentally explaining how that relates to Bumblebee: wasps like it because it’s a gay ship. They thought Black Sun was forced because it was not a gay ship. Therefore, since everyone must either think like them or be defective, clearly you think Bumblebee is forced because it’s not a straight ship. You don’t like it because it’s gay.“
basically they are just calling blacksun forced because it was a straight ship if sun was a girl they wouldnt make that claim so I cant take anytime I hear someone try to pull the you would ship bb if it was a m/f pairing or wouldnt be calling it forced if it was a m/f pairing for if sun was a woman and yang a man they wouldnt be shipping bb and would call bb forced
the idea that its possible
( the idea that if you had two possible same sex ships to make “believable” ( in the opinions of the guy above ) then you should make them happen is bs the writers should make the ships that they want canon (as long as its well written and has proper buildup throwing away the buildup for another ship like in a last minute retcon or sudden direction change will earn my annoyance because with korrasami it was just a publicity stunt with bb it comes off as either an attempt for ratings boost or due to it being popular with certain vas ( even if it was originally planned from the start I would think its best to scrap the old plan given all the buildup they put in for blacksun like how how i met your mother people should have scrapped the original plan its a mix of doing what is best for the story and when they come up with ships do what they want but if the writing points in a certain way they should go in that direction ( I do not think blacksun was ever a red herring you dont give a red herring that much build up)
if they chose not to make any same sex ships involving rwby that would be fine its projection when they accusse people of saying bb is forced based on the genders involved when they detested blacksun because it was a het ship.
the idea that because team jnpr got paired with each other and were a team of m/f partners its obligated to have the same happen with rwby is idotic its not double standards to do that
adam has a hatred for humanity he is a racist he would detest two humans working together)
when it comes to ships the genders involved is just a minor part and should never overcome the other parts of the characters interaction with one another , the cues that went in , the focus that went into the characters , the actual ship tease for the characters etc
things like genders involved or diversity is irrelevent compared to that if say at the start of rwby you went I want bb and white rose to happen that would be fine there wasnt anything in the show that went against that the show was just about to start
but if you complained about the ships being teased because they were teasing the characters into het ships like blacksun instead of the same sex ship on the basis of it being a het ship (when there was nothing in the show interactions that hinted at bb the fact that there were feasible same sex ships is irrelevent as long as they werent actually hinting at those ships in the show ) or complained about people shipping them that is wrong like bb shippers who complained about people shipping blacksun after v1 when blake and yang didnt even interact.
and using the genders involved of a ship to shield your ship as criticism because people put writing as more important then something irrelevant like that
with lok case they could always hope for a canon same sex ship happening in another show
( korrasami was forced as hell)
and in rwby its not like bb was the only possibility for a canon same sex ship involving a member of team rwby
even if it was there were other lgbt characters if they chose not to have any of team rwby be into girls that would be fine ( you dont like to accept it or try to claim anyone who says this would be mad at 4 girls being into girls but no the only thing that would earn my annoyance is with bb case which feels forced and reeks of direction change due ot the buildup to blacksun while bb got nothing you have to twist any minor moment even the most platonic moment to see as evidence wearing shipping goggles) like going but yang was upset about blake leaving
its especially annoying when people try to use the popularity to claim its popularity means that there was actual things teasing it when no it really doesnt zutara was most popular ship in atla but there was nothing to the ship
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lok korrasami was just popular due the fact korra and asami were cute girls and to irrational hate for mako for daring to be flawed in a way that cant be romanticized and mishandled a love triangle ( korra was just as responsible for the kiss in b1 ( and the notion that mako needed to be punished for his mistake in b1 and b2 is absurd mako not being specifically punished and getting into a relationship with korra in b1 isnt him being rewarded for his mistake korra got what she wanted in the end of b1 lok always acknowledged makos mistakes and that he was in the wrong in b1 ) so they shipped korrasami out of spite doing that tumblr post says of pairing two girls in a love triangle together rather then the guy that got actual teasing
korra and asami were barely friends they barely interacted with each other ( people try to claim censorship prevented it but censorship wouldnt have prevented korra and asami from interacting which would actual show that they were friends that asami could support korra
bryke admitted they didnt even ask until the middle of the finale
but asami failed while mako succeeded mako was there when she went to confront zaheer asami wasnt and mako knew what he needed to do to support her letting her go on her own .
mako in remembrances got a speech about korra and what she meant to him as a person etc
asami just went she is the AVATAR of course we need you which failed korras whole problem was seeing herself as the avatar first it was tenzin who helped her by framing it as how she grew as the person says to me a nock against asami. asami and korras personality is incompatible with each other while mako and korra overcame the mutual flaws that led to the b2 break up ( that was framed in a way that said they would someday get back together that they still have feelings for each other
) neither of them were ready for a relationship at that time and wouldnt have worked with anyone
korra was ooc in the last minute of lok
and I find the appeal to popularity argument annoying because a ship being popular doesnt mean there is actual evidence for the ship it just means people like it and I dont think anyone who makes that argument has any right to condemn reylo or zutara etc
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Would it make sense for ruby to get green in her design or get one of penny’s swords as a way of honoring her?
I think that's an awesome idea! The swords probably wouldn't work because I think they were destroyed when her robot body died (plus, you know, the vault where that body is now lies underwater) and if I remember correctly she summoned new, temporary swords with her Maiden powers that likewise should have disappeared. But adding green? Hell yeah. Not enough to detract from the overall red aesthetic, but some nice detailing as a remembrance/way to forward Ruby's grieving arc. Plus, it fits aesthetically: she's Ruby Rose, with green stems and leaves alongside the flower.
Catch me also thinking about how roses have thorns and how the show never leaned into that metaphor, despite trying to make Ruby tougher as she aged.
Ideally I would have liked something like that back in Volume 4, post-Penny's first death and alongside Jaune's armor upgrade. That's another instance of him thematically getting more attention than the main girls: Jaune gets to incorporate a piece of his fallen friend into his wardrobe, but our title character doesn't get to do the same - for Pyrrah or Penny. I wouldn't mind quite as much if there had been some sort of logistical reason why he got that opportunity and she did not. Meaning, if Jaune had been able to get hold of Pyrrha's armor and circumstances led to Ruby failing to do the same... but in actuality Ruby held one of Penny's swords in her hand and the entirety of Pyrrha disintegrated, so the show really said 'Screw logic' on that one.
We're due for a wardrobe change in Volume 10 (if not sooner) so yeah, it would be cool if this second death actually impacted Ruby and drove her actions in ways Penny's first simply didn't. Especially if, as fans theorize, we're heading towards RWBY's endgame. If you're ever going to pull this large cast together and remind viewers of the many characters that helped the girls make it to the final showdown with Salem, now's the time to start doing that.
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Would you be interested in explaining the designs you've made for team RWBY?
The thing is with my own designs is that i am a self-admitted perfectionist. I'm really hard on my own designs, and even now I keep changing things around because it doesn't look as how I pictured it. So, the designs I'm showing might not be the exact same in the future save those I really love.
I thought it'd at least be fun and that to include the original attempt I made back in 2020, just to see how I changed and reasons behind it too. These designs are for AZRE primarily, which has different story plots to canon, so the later designs reflect that rather than being purely redesigns of any canon outfit.
Ruby’s first design really didn’t change all that much from both the original and her canon Beacon outfit. It didn’t need to since the original outfit was that good, but I just added a few details to help push the design more.
I added the red midsection and lace to her corset similar to her Mistral outfit so that that section stood out against her black dress, and just introduce some of her colour there. Similar reason with the red laces, especially since my 2020 drawings don’t have laces because I was very lazy and didn’t like drawing them.
Her Mistral outfit is honestly still my least favourite of my designs.
It’s changed a lot since I took inspiration from her V2 alt outfit. The black pinafore keeps the black on her chest, and so the red of her corset pops out and makes Ruby look better protected for the trip to Haven, which was the main inspiration for the outfit. Longer skirt, thick tights, and more armoured boots for long walks, while adding some details to show that time had passed in her tattered cape and longer hair.
Her shirt is a darker grey rather than the white, and I honestly prefer it that way. I do like the idea of Ruby wearing Weiss’ colour on her in Mistral, showing she misses her friend, but the darker silverish grey not only makes the bright read contrast more, but matches the cool colours pop with her tanned skin.
Plus, I added some design elements for Penny. The wrist cuffs aren’t the maroon colour they were originally anymore since the black works better with the grey, and she’s wearing the neckpiece that Penny wore too. Lil’ pieces just to have her close friend in remembrance, and works as something for her cape pins to attach to that isn’t her shirt.
I also really like her boots. They’re probably my favourite boots out of all the ones Ruby wears, which is funny since they’re on the outfit I like the least. The crosses stick out from the black, with the added leather parts just making them look more protective for Ruby while out of Beacon.
That being said, I think next time I’d widen the gap of her skirt to show more of the red petticoat underneath, and add some of the rose patterns I’ve seen on other designs too. Just so there’s something interesting there, since this outfit is honestly a bit plain imo. Also, I’d get rid of the red gloves, I just don’t like how they look with her outfit honestly, but I wanted to keep red on her arms with the removal of the red sleeves she had previously.
Ruby’s Atlas outfit hadn’t changed that much because I love it that much.
It’s obviously a big jump from her canon Atlas outfit. I kept the big skirt with additional fur to help make her look warmer, but I kept the look of her corset and dress underneath. The dress was changed to red and really helps with the colour, being contrasted with the black and white details to stop her from blending into the big red cape behind her.
I love the white trim on her hood, but I did remove the white fur at the bottom since it looks a bit too heavy for Ruby. Similarly, the boots have their shoelaces back to help introduce more red on her bottom half, since with the red dress she was looking a bit top heavy in terms of colour.
You can’t see with her hood on, but while she’s lost the wrist cuffs from her Mistral outfit, I still have her wearing the neckpiece from before, which I keep as a staple in the rest of her outfits.
Really, I just kept to her silhouette while adapting it for Atlas, keeping Ruby warm while trying to make sure her red was prominent, but not too much given the cape. I think the introduction of white is nice with the fur, but in the line up it’s a bit jarring that she doesn’t continue wearing it afterwards.
Really, this is still one of my favourite designs of all the characters, that’s how much I love it.
Similarly to the Atlas outfit, her Vacuo outfit hadn’t changed much besides a few colour changes and added detailing to the shoes. I guess I really just didn’t like drawing shoes years ago.
Since there isn’t a canonical Vacuo outfit just yet, I’m gonna go more into comparing the two here.
Really, I wanted to tone back the black for this outfit, as Ruby would be in a desert climate while wearing this, so I used the skirt/shorts combo that she had in Atlas and used it for here instead. I wanted a more lighter outfit look with the red taking over more, while still keeping some of the darker colours to temper it.
I pulled her corset up over the bust just so it looked more protected and support her bust more, but the shirt is something I’m still torn on even now. The cool silver grey like before pops with the tanned skin, works well with the warm red, and it carries the silver with her eye colour and metal parts throughout the outfit.
But I also really like how the pure white pops against the skin, and looks nice for a Vacuan climate. I think I’m leaning more towards the grey, but I also get if people lean towards the white more. Tis tricky.
Same as with her other outfits, the boots had been detailed more, keeping the red soles and laces to introduce the colour to her bottom half, and it’s the one time I don’t mind extra belts, since the belts on her boots are a real thing and better secures them to her legs. Plus, the black of her boots and her thin red tinted tights help to contrast her legs from the bright red skirt.
Also the bandages over her face still keeps a little white on her even with the different shirt.
Same here with her adult outfit, it’s a design I made without specifically redesigning a canon outfit.
I really was inspired from Anna’s outfit in Van Helsing, which was used for Summer, so Ruby’s adult outfit takes a lot of inspiration from her mother’s. I kept the shorter skirt for a more mature look compared to her puffy skirt, and helps her red travel more through her outfit while being framed by the black corset, shorts, and long sleeved shirt.
Now she has the red sleeves reminiscent of her Beacon outfit, keeping the red on her arms, along with the red soles and laces on her shoes. With the red skirt and black boots, her darker maroon tights helps contrast her legs while protecting them on any mission. I’d maybe do something to help the rose on her thigh stand out more, since the black decal is hard to see on the already dark tights.
The white spot on her chest was something I thought would help add a bit of interest on her chest, similar to how the white spot on Blake’s chest does. I’m not entirely sure on the colouring since it’s the only white, I might change the silver grey of her boots to white so it looks more coherent, but I’m not entirely sure yet.
Not much I actively dislike about the design besides a few bits that need to be fixed.
Similar to Ruby, there’s nothing too major about Weiss’ outfit.
Her blue is very prominent in her outfit here, to the point where it overpowers the white, but at this point in the story that’s what I was going towards. Weiss is very much still in her father’s mindset, and his colour overpowering hers is a visual note I wanted to put in with Weiss’ Beacon outfit.
But still, I moved the red from just inside her collar to inside her entire jacket. It’s a nice contrast against all the blue, and helps separate her blue jacket from the white/blue gradient dress. It’s also like her defiance is underneath, not completely gone despite Jacque’s best attempts.
The blue dress now helps the white sash stand out more as well, as well as her white shoe decals.
Also, she does not have her scar here. Since these designs are for AZRE, Weiss didn’t get her scar yet, so her design here reflects that.
I hate Weiss’ old Mistral outfit. She looks like a clown.
The long dress that Weiss wears in canon V4 is still the same for when she’s in Atlas, but I changed her outfit to this when she escapes. I wanted the white and black to show more, and for the blue to retreat more as Weiss starts to defrost almost. I kept the blue gradients on the hem of her skirt and sleeves, so that the white decals on her sleeves stand out more.
Her jacket style is taken from her Snowpea outfit, but I rounded out her jagged edges to give her a more softer look. The black fur linings of her jacket and dress help to contrast her pale skin from her white clothes, making it easier to keep track of her limbs while she’s moving. Same reason for the black tights, as they contrast with the light blue boots.
Her red is more open now, in her collar and the gems on her shoes. I didn’t want to overdo it with such a bright colour on a palette like Weiss’, so the main focus is always on her neck and face, while any additional details are kept small as to not be too distracting. I also shaped the red gem on her jacket as an apple, a nice nod to her allusion.
It’s almost professional in style, more away from Weiss’ obvious rich lifestyle given her place in the story at this point, but I wanted to keep some of the previous style in small amounts. So, she still has some jewellery in her earrings and choker, which is the only sharp looking piece on her now.
I haven’t changed the girls’ Atlas outfits that much just because I love them.
Similar here, Weiss’ outfit isn’t that different to her old one save colour changes and the change of her dress and shoes, but it’s an obvious jump from her canonical Atlas outfit. I wanted to move away from Disney Princess, and this is really where I took inspiration from her Snowpea outfit, namely the jacket.
I had the jacket shortened with it’s capes taking the signature bell shape that Weiss has. The silver decals help add some interest and detail to the white background, and I added the metal dangling things on the end as a nice parallel to Winter’s design too. The all white jacket is contrasted more with the black sweater and dress underneath, stopping Weiss from looking like an all white blob.
Plus, her white boots and tights separate her legs from her darker midsection. I wanted to keep the blue to all her designs, but in Atlas it’s really minimal, allowing Weiss’ own colour to show prominently while being accented by black; Blake’s colour. Her tights have a gradient to help stand out against her white boots, with the white soles now being swapped for black instead.
I’m not sure about the red decals on them though. The actual colour is fine since it’s small and not that distracting, but i was trying to have the red apples like in her previous outfit. I’m not sure how successful I was with it, but I’m very much on the fence with it.
Obviously, the biggest change in this outfit for Weiss is the hair. I’m firmly on the short hair Weiss hill, it’s where I will put my grave, and I think her returning to Atlas with a new look, completely separating herself from the Weiss in the past, is a very good storytelling choice for her. Especially since she’s always been connected to how she wears her hair.
The little crown is less stylish than her original one, but I kept it since it adds a little something to the top of Weiss’ head.
I didn’t really like this redesign that much when i finished it, but looking at it now, I’m warming up to it more.
It’s still not my favourite, and I’m not entirely sure why, but I wanted to go for a lighter outfit for Weiss in Vacuo. Her white ass is still gonna burn, but just slap some sunscreen on her, she’ll be fine.
I kept the jacket style from her Atlas outfit for the bottom, thought removed the decals for some reason? I would honestly put them back, I don’t understand why I took them off. Still, the white jacket contrasts with her black dress underneath, with the style changed to her more common style dress rather than the sweater/skirt combo from before.
I added the see through fabric at the bottom for a little detail, like the fabric from her Beacon outfit, but I’m not too sure about it. Honestly, it looks kind dumb, so I’ll probably change it to more of a white petticoat underneath, like the petticoat on her Mistral dress in canon.
Her pale legs at least contrast with her dark dress, and the red in her boots keeps the boots from blending in too much. I kept the black soles with white boots as a nice inversion of her earlier boots, and to have the black travel through the outfit more with the white.
The red collar is still the main use of her red, keeping the attention on her face, with the additional open collar underneath. I shortened her sleeves for Vacuo, keeping the bell shape, but they look kinda plain. Some black there would be better.
Pretty much the same here, just like Ruby’s.
I went more towards a business woman vibe for an adult Weiss, just because of her role in AZRE in the later years, while still keeping some of her old fashion. The white and black are pretty even in use on Weiss now, but I kept the white mostly on top to keep it as her most prominent colour. The white with her longer hair also helps with bringing the colour more throughout her design also.
The greyish sash was changed to blue so I had something to separate the jacket from the shirt more, and to keep that little bit of blue on Weiss. She had moved on from her father, but she still has that little piece with her, having used it as a bow to add to herself.
I also shortened the hair from her original look. She grew it out over the years, but it’s obviously not as long as it originally was, now being kept in a more motherly style of a low ponytail, similar to Willow’s. Really, I wanted Weiss to have some parts of her parents in her design, but something she had made for herself rather than something forced upon her like before.
Her bright red collar is bigger, and with the mostly monochromatic colour scheme now, it’s the first thing to jump out when you look at her, helping to keep the eye on Weiss’ face where the scar is.
Blake, why were you so pale originally?
Obviously, the two biggest things I changed for Blake was her skin tone and her eye colour. The darker skin tone is a warm colour that helps with Blake’s mostly cool colour scheme, as well as making her light eye colour pop out more. With her heterochromia, I liked that design point from her concept art and gave it back for her, since she now still has the yellow for Yang, but also blue to match Weiss; two important people for Blake’s development.
Other than that, I really haven’t changed all that much for Blake. Her headscarf is something specifically for AZRE, as she adopted that custom from the tribe she was living in, which helps to cover her face and keep Blake’s identity a secret. The jacket was changed to cover up more of the white on her chest, still keeping that white spot for some contrast while introducing small purple linings for detail.
Her neckscarf was swapped for a more closed bolero jacket, connecting Blake with her mother, and the zippers on her shorts were taken off for more streamlined shorts since I didn’t really like the original zippers.
As for the purple, it’s been shifted towards indigo rather than the pinkish purple she uses later on. The gradient was lightened to allow the black boots to stand out from the black tights, but I kept the purple to a minimum so that the black could stand out as Blake’s primary colour.
The scars are also a specific AZRE choice. I just liked scarred characters.
I know a friend of mine still really likes my original Blake redesign, but I’ve honestly moved away from it. I just don’t like it that much anymore.
I still kept to the tank top and pants that Blake has in her canon Mistral outfit, except I obviously removed the giant white jacket. She’s in Menagerie, she doesn’t need it. The black tank top now completely covers her chest, with the purple belt being replaced by the black jacket she always wears that holds the magnet. I kept the white chest with her black jacket around it, keeping the shirt interesting while framing her chest more.
Similarly, I kept the white belt and gold metal, but her pants have the same purple gradient as her leggings, so that the boots stand out more. I also added the claw marks like on Ghira’s shoes, just for some white on the bottom and because I think it looks cute for Blake to mimic her father’s shoes.
The giant silver emblems on her boots also help, which is something I added because I wanted to incorporate her emblem in a more interesting way than slapping it on her leg. I’m not completely sure about it, but I think I like it.
Like before, her asymmetrical gloves are still there, now having fingerless gloves for better protection. At this point, I would’ve had Blake cut her hair rather than in Atlas, but that’s just me. The shorter, curlier hair helps to set her apart from Yang’s hair, and from Weiss later on who has thinner, straight hair.
Since I wanted to add gold into her design like in canon, I mostly kept it to her belt, eyes and the one earring, just so it doesn’t clash too much with the silver than Blake still wears also.
Past me, stop it with the belt flaps.
I wasn’t putting Blake in the catsuit. Really, I kept to the fancy jacket and suit style that Blake mostly wears, just changed up a little to help with the Atlas climate. Most of her trademark features are still there; the white on her chest, the assymetrical arm wrappings, her long tailed jacket.
Her long white sleeves also give more of an illusion to sleeveless Blake, allowing the black of the ribbons and gloves to stand out, while also covering her up properly for the cold. The jacket tails had been shortened considerable, no longer covering Blake’s legs completely, with the black framing the white shirt and keeping the black on the top.
It stopping just above the black pants mostly helped the white shirt to separate them, keeping the black jacket from blending in with the top of the pants. similarly, that’s why I added the white trimming along with some detail. I removed a lot of the purple from Blake’s original look, and the stupid looking belt flaps for the more natural looking jacket flaps at the back.
Her boots had been shortened too, with some white fur trimming just to help separate the boots from the pants. Really, I kept the colouring mostly monochromatic, with the yellow, silver and purple being kept to a minimum. I used the purple mostly for the collar of her jacket and such, still keeping it for a bit of colour on her.
Really, this is where Blake’s darker skin tone really helps. The pale skin from before just blended in with all the white she was wearing, whereas now it pops out more. This shows how important the skin tone is to a design.
That first design was one I did for Mona’s commission years ago.
I still like some bits of it, like the idea of the white headscarf, but I ultimately ditched more of this besides the shorts and shoes for Blake’s updated look. Given that it’s in Vacuo, I wanted to make sure she wasn’t wearing too much black, but use it in a way that her colour still got across without it being overpowered by the white.
I think I did alright, but I’m not entirely sure tbh.
I went back to her Menagerie outfit for inspiration on this one, with the tank top and white chest coming from that. Her white shorts are longer with the tanned stomach separating the two. I kept the black tights but with a white gradient on them this time rather than purple. The main reason for this really is, similar to Weiss, I wanted these two characters to adopt each other’s colours as the story progressed.
Weiss is shedding Jacques’ blue, Blake is shedding the WF’s purple.
I would really add some more detail to Blake’s shorts here. Add the pockets and lines to make it seem more like shorts, since it looks really plain there honestly. Not only that, but the giant white spot on her chest is starting to overpower the black on her shirt, so I would tone it back just a little.
These two outfits were for two completely different AUs. The old one was just a generic Adult!RWBY design line, while the new one is specifically AZRE!Blake.
I still like the old one for Blake in Menagerie, though I’m not sure about the white sash thing on her waist. I believe I was trying to mimic the coat tails, but it just looks dumb. Everything else is pretty cute, especially the style of the shirt with the black lace patterns and extra arm drapes.
Her new one is really just her canon Mistral outfit but colour inverted and changed. Since she’s in Atlas, I changed the tank top underneath for a full shirt, closed the jacket up, and just gave her gloves.
The black jacket is contrasted with the white shirt, gloves and pants, separating important sections of Blake’s body from each other, while having her colour on top and prominent. I shortened her thigh highs to keep the white in equal parts, with the gold details being changed to white as well. For Blake, I wanted to keep the gold to just the metal parts, while her purple is on the necklace, jacket collar and inside of her coat tails.
I wanted a more proper look for Blake, but still good for Huntress duties, since Blake very much still fights even as she’s older.
I will never know peace knowing that past me used brown for Yang and thought it looked good.
I never really talked about Yang’s canonical Beacon outfit, and I’ve talked about her Hunter outfit enough. It’s my favourite outfit, and really the only thing I changed was upping the saturation to a more cream yellow for her jacket, and changing the black shirt to red for a bit of Ruby’s colour. Really, Yang is the one to wear all of her team’s colours and make it look good.
Plus, the Yang necklace is a neat nod to her Chinese heritage in connection to her name.
As for her canon Beacon outfit, which is what I originally did for the outfit, I like it. It’s definitely Yang’s best outfit out of her canon line up, besides her Hunter one obviously, but ever since the beginning, she was really struggling with proper colouring.
The overall look is great. She reminds me of a sexy biker, which is obviously the look they were going for with Yang. The leather makes her look more protected, similar with her boots, while the different styles of her socks and bandana give her a bit of asymmetry that really works for her. The only thing I don’t like is the style of her sleeves.
They look really childish and puffy. Yang having a more streamlined jacket style later on was great move away from these.
The brown they use is warm at least, and the yellow shirt with her gauntlets at least help to keep her colour on her outside of her giant hair. With the gold detailing, this outfit at least tries to show that Yang’s colour is yellow rather than brown and orange. But the different colours she uses is too much; yellow, two shades of brown, orange, white, black and purple, she’s been suffering from poor colour schemes since the beginning.
I don’t get why they didn’t change the orange to red, allow her to wear Ruby’s colour since she’s meant to be so protective of her sister.
Still, it’s a good outfit, but I do wish she kept her Hunter one instead and her later outfits kept to that design.
I hate those stupid boots.
The biggest thing I wanted to keep with Yang’s design is that she doesn’t have her right arm. It’s a drastic shift in design from before, but I like it. Originally, I kept the jacket sleeve tied up, like how she does it while in Patch, which is something i still like. But in her newer one, I kept the jacket sleeves short and instead have Yang wear a yellow compression bandage instead.
I obviously went for the Hunter colour scheme instead of the canon one. The black jacket helps with the bright gold decals, and the bright red collar stick outs, working similar to how Weiss’ red collar does in bringing attention to Yang’s face. The yellow cuffs adds some colour and interest to the jacket, while her emblem being on the right brings attention to the arm that Yang lost.
Her red undershirt had been changed to a longer cream dress, keeping the yellow throughout Yang’s midsection while helping the black belts not blend into her black pants. Similarly, that’s why I put the yellow bows on her boots for. With the gold buckles and soles, it helps put some yellow on the bottom half of Yang’s design and help the black boots stick out from her pants.
I upped the saturation of the purple on her sash from the more muted colour in her old design, and her canon design. Her purple is always so desaturated and it makes me sad. The purple outside and red instead match the gradient of her eyes too, which I really like.
With her hair, I kept it up in the ponytail she wore in Patch for the rest of her outfits. I like the style of it, it looks more mature for Yang, and helps concentrate her bright yellow hair to her upper body.
She reminds me of a bee.
Really, the biggest criticism I have is that the dress and jacket combo is really similar to her Mistral one, but that is also because I like the look of it that much that I kept it for this one too. I changed the style of the jacket to have a white fur lining on the inside, introducing more of Weiss’ colour to contrast with the black leather, and so it looked more suitable for Atlas weather.
The emblem was moved to the left to balance it more, since the black glove extending all the way up her arm meant that her left side was very lopsided without the emblem there, especially compared with the yellow compression bandage on her right side. It’d obviously be less apparent when she’s wearing her yellow gauntlet, but I wanted the design to be balanced even without her weapon.
Pretty much like the last one, I had the yellow dress down to mid thigh to help the black belts stand out, but her boots had added white fur now to separate them from the pants. The yellow is more apparent on her shoes than before, along with the yellow bows remaining, so her colour is visible throughout the design.
I also swapped the red collar for a scarf. I think it’s cute, a nice way for Yang to stay warm, and a cute nod to Ruby’s cape.
I didn’t change a whole lot when updating this look honestly.
I liked the design of her jacket, but just changed the style of it slightly. Closing it up to not only concentrate the red shirt on her chest, but just making Yang look better protected around the chest area as well. Her jacket has completely shifted from black with gold to pale yellow with black, as I wanted to make it slightly better for Vacuo and not have Yang running around in black leather. It’s still gonna be hot since it’s, you know, leather, but it’ll be fine.
It’s pale enough that she doesn’t look like a bright yellow mess, and her lower half taking more of the black helps to balance Yang’s colour out. It also helps that her darker skin tone makes the yellow pop, rather than blending in with her canon pale skin.
The black cuff and details stand out against the yellow, and helps to separate her limbs from the jacket, especially the brighter yellow compression bandage she wears. I added the little ursa skull for a bit of detail, and to connect Yang to the bear motif of her allusion.
Her shorts and leggings help to neutralise her entire look, while the small gold details pop out, carrying Yang’s colour down her legs and bottom half. The exposed skin still has her sexy look, showing off Yang’s confidence that she reclaimed after Beacon.
The one thing I do miss is the style of the boots from her original redesign. I liked the little designs on them, but I also really like her new boots too, especially with the cute bows.
I still really like Yang’s adult look.
The yellow jacket from her Vacuo look is still there. Originally, I coloured it in black with gold details, similar to her old jacket colours, but because she already wears so much black on her bottom half, with little gold except on the shoes and belt, her yellow was really being lost. So, I kept it as yellow with black details. Since her hair is shorter and still kept up, the yellow jacket isn’t at risk of being lost in her hair.
Her shorts are more jean textured now, with the white trimmings helping to separate them from her black leggings, similar with the yellow front of her boots and bow keeping her shoes from blending in also. The silver cuff on her arm is an AZRE specific point, so it obviously wouldn’t be there for this Yang in any other AU.
While I like the look of it, I’m not completely sold on the look. For some reason, the yellow jacket isn’t working like it did for Vacuo, and it might be the lack of sleeves. I think adding the sleeves back might improve it for me. Similarly, her emblem on her shirt is black on a deeper red, so it’s a little hard to see compared to a yellow shirt.
#rwby#rwby redesign#outfit critiques#ruby rose#weiss schnee#blake belladonna#yang xiao long#answered#luke.txt
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Oops! Chapter one of my qrowin fic is live!
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Nora v the Furious Cat?
Nora slammed her hammer into Neo, arms shaking as she watched the girl grin as if nothing could hurt her. And to make matters worse, when she showed up, she destroyed the remembrance wall for the lives that were lost when Atlas fell. Memories of the Atlas and Mantle citizens that couldnt be saved, memories of team RWBY and Jaune destroyed in a moment of rage… it was like she had lost them all over again.
“That… that was quite the hit,” “Neo” had said as she picked herself up, the blue and purple arms starting to lose color as they grew angrier. “But I wont let you stop me!”
“What is wrong with you?” Nora yelled out as she dodged a few swipes, shaking as she started into the cat-like eyes Neo sported. Her legs shook as she moved out of the way and readied her hammer once more. “Why cant you leave us alone?!”
“Neo” landed a hit on Nora, the claws nearly slicing through her aura as she continued. “I dont want anything to do with you, I want to find my creators and find out why they left me! But that wall… those faces you left on them, the same faces of the people who tried to stop me before I ripped them to shreds-”
Nora slammed her hammer against “Neo” once more, freezing as she watched the girl go limp and a large, grey cat-like creature stumble on its hind legs as it tried to get its bearings. She slowly lowered her hammer as everything started to sink in, that her friends, her team leader, had been alive before this… thing got to them. “What… what did you do to Juane? A-and Ruby, Blake, Weiss, and Yang?”
The cat clutched its head for a moment and stopped itself from shaking as it looked over at Neo, frowning a bit. “At least that one served its uses for now. I’m on Remnant and can finally ask my creators-”
“Answer me dammit!” Nora yelled as she swung her hammer at the cat once more, eyes widening as it stopped with its hand.”
“I told you I want nothing to do with you. All I want to know is why my creators abandoned me! But I see I’m going to have to deal with you the same way I had to deal with your friends.”
Nora pulled back as the head of her hammer snapped off the handle, causing her to lose her balance. With a quick look to her left, she spotted Ren next to her, weapons at the ready. She took a deep breath and steadied herself and glared at the Furious Cat. “I wont let you hurt anyone else and I will make you pay for what you’ve done to my friends!”
The cat grinned as it welcomed the challenge and tossed the hammer head away from him. “Then I’ll break you just like I broke them.”
Nora nodded towards Ren and took a breath as she lunged for the Furious Cat. She winced as she felt the sting of a lightning dust bullet, and then felt the Furious Cat grab her with its claws and throw her into a nearby building.
“Is that all you can do?”
“Not quite,” Nora said as electricity started to run across her scars, causing them to glow slightly. She picked up the broken shaft of her hammer and swung at the Furious Cat. “Now leave!”
The Furious Cat felt itself get pushed back from the hit, yowling as it moved away from Nora. It glared, then ran away as quickly as it came.
Nora dropped to her knees and took a few breaths to calm herself, shaking. She flinched as she felt Ren put a hand on her shoulder, her voice shaking as she spoke. “They… they were alive…”
Ren nodded and sighed. “We should get some rest in case that thing comes back.”
“We… we could’ve saved them if we had been better-”
“And right now, we have to move forward.” Ren slowly helped Nora up and pulled her close. “For them. They gave everything in order to make sure we could be safe.”
Nora nodded and looked out towards the edge of the city, watching the tents that were lined up at the edge of the desert. “Then we have to get started.”
#rwby#nora valkyrie#lie ren#furious cat#drabbles#nora vs the furious cat#this is kinda how I'd see this match up go#like she's strong#but the furious cat is a monster of sorts that beats brute strength#but once in Remnant wouldnt do much beyond try to get their answers
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With a heavy heart to all of my fellow rwby writers and artists I announce we lost one of our own. Trash_Yo has passed and in honor and remembrance of this beautiful soul I'm organizing a tribute of fics and art for her. If anyone is interested please dm me.
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