#RWBY theories

[lunaefall]

It's pretty interesting that the Blacksmith has records of Hunters from Remnant despite being in the Ever After, so I think they might be Alyx reincarnated.

Both Alyx and the Blacksmith are designed with Afro-centric features in mind (for me the hair locs in the Blacksmith were the main giveaway).

Alyx's waistband looks similar to the colours of the locs.

And we can't forget the quote from the latest episode, "Alyx wanted to fix everything she broke in the Ever After." And guess what blacksmiths do.

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[hadesisqueer]

Ngl, I think Jaune is going to die in the Ever After. But since death isn't a thing in the Ever After (unless the Jabberwalker is involved), I think he'll just “ascend” and go back to being 19yo Jaune, just like the Red King died and became the Prince again.

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[aspiringwarriorlibrarian]

I just realized that the Curious Cat probably didn’t intend for Alyx to die. The first time they fully appear, it’s to tell the Red Prince that humans are fragile things who won’t come back if killed, they panic when Ruby supposedly dies and are surprised to see her in the Tree, and they describe what they did to Alyx as “what anyone would do to a broken, useless thing: which, in the Ever After, means sending them back to the Tree for repair. It’s not like Curious had ever seen a human die before, permanent death was something the Jabberwalker invented. So when they lashed out at Alyx, they were probably doing it with the casual violence that Afterans can show to each other because the Tree won’t let them truly die, and just sat around waiting for her to Ascend and come back fixed and better.

And then they waited, and waited, and waited, and she didn’t come back. And Curious realized that their last possible tie to Remnant was permanently gone.

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[littlemisssquiggles]

In today’s episode, Jaune revealed that Lewis and Alyx were actually residents of Vacuo Kingdom (surprise, surprise) during a time before the Great War. And since we know that Lewis actually returned from the Ever After, it make wonder something curious.

If Lewis was the author of the Girl Who Fell Through the World fairy-tale then it would make perfect sense as to why he omitted himself from the written adventures in the Ever After and chose to make Alyx the protagonist. It makes sense since, unlike Lewis, Alyx never returned home and basically “died” in the Ever After.

So my assumption is that Lewis must’ve maintained his sister’s story through his story about her. That way Alyx’s legacy was able to live on in some shape or form despite the real Alyx practically ceasing to exist after never returning home.

Since Jaune was shown to still be have some qualms over his time in the Ever After, it got me thinking.

What if…Jaune were to (somehow) discover the original journal of Lewis which he had used to record his experience in the Ever After in the Vacuo archives?

What if…Jaune were to meet someone closely connected to Lewis and Alyx while in Vacuo? Like a surviving member of their family bloodline still thriving in modern Remnant.

What if… Headmaster Theodore was that surviving member? I know the main popular theory is that Lewis was one of Ozma’s reincarnations but imagine if Lewis wasn’t an Ozma reincarnation but Theo’s ancestor instead?

I haven’t read either of the RWBY After the Fall books so I’m not familiar with Headmaster Theodore in terms of characterization or like what his backstory is.

That being said, I do, however like the idea of the final maiden being connected to Theo in some shape or form.

For me, I like the prospect of the Summer Maiden being either Theo’s daughter or younger sister or cousin or niece or some important person to him as she’s probably the only family he has left.

Again, I don’t know anything about Theo but thus far, none of the other headmasters of the huntsmen academies have had any reason to be protective of their respective maiden outside of a moral obligation as per Ozpin’s instructions.

To make Theo stand out more, I think it would be a nice change of pace if Theo, the final headmaster, were to share an actual connection to the final  maiden as she is a beloved relative of his.

Why bring this up? Well I like the idea of Jaune forming a close relationship with another Maiden candidate. Maybe he could even fall in love with the Summer Maiden.

Technically, Jaune hasn’t had a legit love interest since Pyrhha and I don’t know about ya’ll but…after six seasons (and half a movie), I’m kind of tired of being reminded of Arkos, ya’ll.

It was the Ship that was meant to be that never got to be because Writers decided to kill it off early.

Don’t get me wrong. I love Arkos. Arkos was a great ship that was gone too soon.

To (finally) close the chapter on Jaune moving on from Pyrhha (since even after all of his growth, I still don't think he's over her as the show keeps constantly bringing up whenever they can)...

I think it actually might be cute if Jaune does end up being romantically involved with the Summer Maiden who he actually succeeds in protecting from Cinder when she comes to steal her powers.

I’ve grown tired of new maidens showing up in the story just to die for the sake of the powers being passed onto a main character.

Since Summer is the last maiden, it would be nice if Summer is the one to stop the cycle of original maiden deaths and she actually gets to live on even after opening the vault.

As much as I like WhiteKnight as a ship, I honestly gave up on it becoming canon after V5 dropped and nothing else was done to further develop Weiss and Jaune’s relationship as a prospective romance.

Yeah sure, V9 tossed us a crumb of Weiss being attracted to Jaune in his more mature Rusted Knight persona.

But after further deliberation, I’ve concluded that that little nugget of hope isn’t enough to get me back on the horse of hoping for a romance between these two.

Do you know what would actually be pretty wild?

If Jaune fell in love with the Summer Maiden who is not only a red-head (like Pyrhha) but is also a descendent of Lewis who is the author of the Girl Who Fell Through the World and thus a relative of Alyx.

And unlike Alyx and Pyrhha who Jaune failed to protect/help/save, Jaune is able to do just that with the Summer Maiden by protecting her from Cinder and thus, the two are able to live happily ever after.

That would actually be wild.

Not saying this would become true in the canon. I'm just tossing it out into the RWBY FNDM ether as a food for thought.

~LMS (2024)

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[short-wooloo]

There is no way out in the Ever After

Team RWBY has assumed that the tree is the way out of Ever After, because that's how Alyx got out in the story they know, and for the most part we the audience have ran with it, yet at the same time, we've also been assuming and speculating that Alyx is in the Ever After currently based off the intro

Yet, if Alyx is still in the Ever After, despite the explicit implication (it's noted that Jinxy seems older than he was in the story) that she got there a very long time ago, then that means she hasn't gotten out

Because the tree does not lead to a way out, it leads to nowhere

The intro also implies that Alyx hasn't aged, and is still a little girl just as when she fell originally, why is that? Simple, Alyx hasn't aged because non-natives to the Ever After are subject to some kind of Time dilation, time passes in Remnant, the denizens of the Ever After age, but those who do nor belong remain the same despite the world around them and the world they left behind moving forward, they are stuck

Heck, I'll bet getting to the top of the tree will just loop you right back to where you start, and Alyx has been stuck repeating the loop, at least until this current iteration where she starts noticing differences, footprints on the beach, a strange scythe, a disruption at the market where she's supposed to trade with Jinxy...

But how is Alyx's story known to Remnant if she never got out?

Easy

She did not go to the Ever After alone, there was someone with her

An Ozcarnation

It's generally accepted that most of the fairy tales and stories of Remnant were events experienced or witnessed by an Ozcarnation, and that he is merely retelling them

So I wonder if a past Ozcarnation fell through to the Ever After with Alyx, and subsequently died there, probably late into the journey, and was subsequently reincarnated back on Remnant, where he found that Alyx did not find a way back

Another thing we largely accept is that while most of the fairy tales in Remnant are real in some capacity, the tales we know are not necessarily accurate to what happened precisely, things are retold, elements are left out and kept secret, as has been Ozpin's pattern

Thus Oz gave the story of The Girl Who Fell Through The World a happier ending, where Alyx returned, but in truth, she was and remains trapped

But how will RWBY escape?

As I said, there is no way out IN the Ever After

But there might be a way INTO the Ever After

See, a theory I've had for a long time is that the answer to RWBY's predicament is in fact rather mundane, and that they will be saved by the return of a character we haven't seen in a while, a return that could be a callback to Vol 2, specifically showing up in the nick of time to save a certain someone from Neo

Raven is the way out y'all

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[guillotinedream]

I know the impression Jaune is under is that the cat is evil and whatever, but i legitimately think that maybe he’s misunderstanding the situation. The cat doesn’t seem to be malicious at all and in fact seemed genuinely hurt that the team so easily discarded them. I think Louis was the one who got out because he was already kind and perhaps figured out who he was in the ever after. Alyx was probably deemed unworthy of the tree and some part of her is still in the ever after. I also think Louis maybe wrote the story and made it about his sister, maybe to give her the happy ending he wished she could have had if things were different.

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[aspennntree]

so i’ve been thinking about oscar and ozmosis a lot and nobody is surprised but anyways

so that entails thinking about the original ozma and his ‘choice’ to reincarnate although it wasn’t much of one

and i want to talk about that!

this is gonna be really long so everything under the cut

SO!

he didn’t know what it would entail and now he’s been thrown into an eternity of dying, being reborn, merge, and repeat which essentially puts them in a constant state of motion, never getting to take a break

but we all know the tragedy of this, immortality is a curse first and foremost and i like to talk about that BUT that’s not the point of this post. because i’m already planning to go further in depth with that <3

but i want to talk about the reason he’s in this situation, the one who gave him this ‘choice’

so for a while i was like. wait. why would the gods bring ozma back if they made salem immortal so they could never be together until she learned her lesson?

but then i thought about it. and i realized that’s exactly why they choose him.

because of course there were other human heroes they could choose from, why would they choose ozma? it feels like he’d be the least likely choice because of salem, she’d never learn her lesson if they brought him back

but then think about it from their side. what incentive would anyone have to come back to life? everyone they know and love would be in the afterlife with them, they have no need to return.

except oz would. because how could he say no with the knowledge that the person he loves is still there, alone, forever?

how little of a choice he already have—who would decline a job directly from the gods to save humanity—now with the knowledge that she was alive? how could he possibly say no?

he didn’t even get to think about what would happen if he and salem fought. he didn’t get to think about what this ‘life’ would entail because he heard that she was still alive and he could go back to be with her.

and then the love they had turned to hate, only now that he was all alone he could truly realize the horrible consequences of that choice. only now could he realize how cruel this really was.

that the brief time of love that he’d experienced was in exchange for an eternity of suffering.

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[lil-red-reaper]

A few people on twitter have already pointed this out, but I found it pretty interesting and wanted to share it here with my thoughts

So there’s this part of Red Like Roses part 2:

And then the knight from the volume 9 trailer who we’re pretty sure is Jaune:

They’re all literally in a fairytale and Jaune is the knight in shining armour

However, he won’t be the one to wake Ruby from her “spell” or rather, her current emotional state. That’s something she’ll have to confront herself on this journey. But if the theory that Jaune himself is under some sort of influence due to his guilt about Penny is correct, perhaps Ruby’s arc of coming to terms with her emotions and everything that’s happened will be influential in breaking the so called spell placed on Jaune as well 🤔

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[iamafanofcartoons]

Imagine Summer and Tai breaking down when Ruby’s eyes opened for the first time, realizing that she would be drawn into this fight no matter if she wanted to become a huntress or not. 

Her fate was sealed. so summer tried to prevent it by taking down Salem. 

But it wasn’t enough.

Imagine if Salem realized what Summer was fighting for, and told Summer: “I was a mother like you once...and from one mother to another? It will never be enough.”

This would explains why Taiyang is so overprotective of Ruby, since she's his daughter. But it also explains why Taiyang chose to let Ruby become a huntress. Her mother tried to stop that destiny but failed. Taiyang realized his daughter had no choice.

Script by @wlwrwby aka Em

https://twitter.com/wlwrwby/status/1290690750011842561

Art by Mikururun

https://twitter.com/Mikururun/status/1293387760544419842

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[autumnsorbet]

So there are two stories that parallel both Oscar and Ruby the boy who fell from the sky and the girl who fell through the world

Oscar fail from the sky and Ruby fell into another world

If I managed to learn more about the boy who fell through the world all posted here cuz it is the story I'm interested in learning more about cuz all of these stories are Canon and it's believed that they were made by oz based off of possible true events that happened in remnant and you know the old saying history repeats itself

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[kineticallyanywhere]

Theory: we won't see the Vacuo group for most of Volume 9, but at the very end we'll see everyone reunited and finally meet Theodore.

seconded

personally crossing my fingers for design updates on the cast that have been in Vacuo, highlighted with a moment of Oscar helping Ruby to her feet only for her to never become taller than him as she stands to full height.

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[bat-anon]

@strqyr Finally following up on that post I promised you wrt Summer’s mission-

This is going to sound like a stretch but bear with me- What if what happened in the vault between Raven, Summer & Spring mirrors what happened with Qrow, Clover & Robyn? (Not a one-to-one comparison, but there are definitely echoes) 

Things are going okay- until they aren’t. In the vault, things go south bc of Summer switching sides. In Atlas, shit hits the fan when Clover is willing to follow James’s orders. Spring is the Maiden of Knowledge. Robyn’s semblance reveals the truth. “Let’s get this over with.” Summer and Clover were both “the best” of their groups. Summer leaves her emblem behind before the mission (metaphorical death). Clover’s pin is left behind when he dies (literal death). The Ace Ops are left in emotional shambles after Clover’s death, like how Ruby, Yang, Tai, and Qrow are after Summer’s disappearance. There’s a good chance that Raven believes she killed Summer. Qrow blames himself for Clover’s death.

HMMMM

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[hadesisqueer]

Scared that Blake taking the leadership role this volume to unburden Ruby while she's feeling so down might make Ruby actually think that her team doesn't need her or that Blake is a better leader than her and Ozpin made a mistake choosing her, or something like that.

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[aspiringwarriorlibrarian]

Was ruminating while bored, and I realized that we've all been thinking about how the Blacksmith's words on balance apply to the gods and to Salem and Ozpin. "Balance cannot be restored through force or calculation, true balance finds its own equilibrium" is a reflection on how the Brothers failed in their attempts to create balance, which could also be read into Ironwood failing to control Atlas and how Ozpin's ending of the Great War by forcing the kingdoms to end things and accept surrender ultimately left serious flaws in the system. But I was thinking about it from the other end, about Salem's attempts to disrupt the balance.....and I realized that it applies both ways. Balance cannot be restored by force or calculation, but force and calculation cannot easily disrupt it, either.

Cinder's masterstroke at Beacon was meant to provoke war, but war doesn't come. Most of the other kingdoms are suspicious, yes, but they accepted Atlas' explanation, and Atlas' Dust embargo and isolation was imposed from the inside. Salem tried to hijack the Faunus rights movement for her own purposes, and the Faunus decided they didn't want to see their cause corrupted and foiled Salem's plan at Haven without even knowing about the secret war. (Salem doesn't learn from this, by the way, she just blames it all on Cinder, even dismissing Hazel when he tries to point out the Faunus militia's part in Haven.). The Crown tries to destroy Shade and reinstate a king...but Vacuo has moved on from kings and doesn't want one now, so they join the Academy's forces to destroy them. All of Salem's failures have one common factor: they weren't planned by Ozpin or any of the secret conspirators, but arose naturally from the simple weight of history and the desire for peace. The world is too vast and too complicated to reduced to a chessboard, no matter how powerful Salem is. When you create a wound, blood rushes to fill and seal it again.

Nature tends towards equilibrium, and change requires not a single action but a consistent force until a new equilibrium can be made. There are moments of imbalance, drastic imbalance perhaps, but stability is a force as well. Ozpin alone cannot force all the Kingdoms into harmony, but neither can Salem alone force them to break apart. "Balance is not two forces locked in endless struggle. Balance is an ecosystem, an organism. A living breathing thing.".

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[littlemisssquiggles]

So squiggles....we saw our boy. But at what cost?

Ahahaaaa not only that Key m’boi. Not only did we get our BOI at a cost but we also got what is the closest thing to a “Rosegarden crumb” outta RWBY V9 in this episode at a cost.

Miles and Kiersi who co-wrote this episode can both kiss my chocolate-coated ass for this scene!

How dare you?!

I mean, Miles did hint once upon a time that Ruby’s bond with Oscar is still being defined.

The fact that this is the second time that Neo has used Oscar’s form to break Ruby is meaningful.

I find it most curious that Neo knows of Oscar’s connection to Ruby. She must’ve seen their little moment at Schnee Manor back in V7 and put 2+2 together.

Jokes aside, this moment, as dark as it was meant something in the grand scheme of things.

Of all the people that Neo could’ve shown Ruby causing the death of, I find it interesting that was Oscar’s.

She could’ve shown her Weiss or Blake or Yang or even Jaune. Heck she could’ve even shown her Penny.

But the fact that it was Oscar means something.

I mean yeah sure, it makes sense for it to be Oscar since Oz was there before and Oscar is Oz’s successor.

But the fact that Neo knows that Oscar is important enough to Ruby to use his form in such a manner to break her. That’s what got me about that scene.

And what’s more interesting that this isn’t the first time Neo used a hurt Oscar to get to Ruby. Remember she used her tortured and battered form while they were fighting in the Void before ended up in the Ever After.

The point I’m trying to make is that this shows that Ruby values Oscar’s life. It highlights why she’s always been so protective of him in past seasons.

Oscar is another special person that Ruby has come to cherish. Someone who means a lot to her that she doesn’t want to lose.

Ruby doesn’t want to fail Oscar.

Oscar means something to Ruby and I feel like once the group returns to Remnant, the way Ruby looks at Oscar following her experience in the Ever After will be much different than before.

Not saying this will mean they’ll become lovers, making Rosegarden canon or anything like that.

I’m just saying, the dynamic between Ruby and Oscar could potentially change after this volume as a result of what Neo did to Ruby in the Ever After.

And let's not forget, we don't know what's going on in the Remnant right now. We don't know how much time has passed in Remnant while RWBYJ have been stuck in the Ever After.

We don't know how much time has passed between Oscar and the others learning that their allies probably died on the other side of the Portal.

Let me put something into perspective:

In the Ever After, Ruby saw Oscar die by her hands.

What if...back on Remnant, after Winter informs everyone of what happened in the Portal, Oscar blames himself for essentially causing Ruby's "death" since technically he was the one with the knowledge of the Staff and should've known better.

What if...Oscar ends up taking responsibility for all that happened to RWBYJ in the Portal and his feelings for Ruby will change as result of thinking he had lost her forever?

So it's a case where both Ruby and Oscar realize how much they mean to each other by believing for a period that had killed the other? If that makes sense?

Who knows? I could be very much wrong about this hunch. But that’s how I see it.

~LMS (2023)

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[short-wooloo]

But anyways, Ruby has a chance at ascension

But she's not going to take it

She'll give it up for Little

Because Ruby is a hero

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