Random thought: I strongly disagree with the commentary that SNW Uhura is "masculinized". She's got makeup, sparkly earrings, walks with a sashay, and was a literal queen in one episode.
Some of these negative comments regarding the character have hurt people, particularly Black fans with that very hair which is the subject of much of this commentary.
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"strange new worlds is a serious show"
meanwhile:
- the captain is doing a pirate impression and the first officer looks like she wants to cry
- the chief of security is wondering around in a princess dress with a very very small dog
- the pilot is exclusively replying to the science officer's descriptions with "kaboom"
- the captain is referred to as starfleet's boy scout in his file
- the first officer and chief of security are playing enterprise bingo, which mostly seems to be an excuse to shoot each other with phasers
- the nurse is describing things as giving birth from your mouth to coerce difficult patients into medical treatment
- the captain is using soup to ignite mutiny
- the science officer is bodyswapped with his girlfriend and is using it to punch people he doesn't normally get to punch
- the doctor is treating an alarming amount of arrow wounds for a starship with no arrows
- the cadet is always right and yknow what she's rocking it
- the chief of security is recreationally making ensigns cry
- the first officer is very jealous because only one of them is allowed to make ensigns cry at a time
- the chief engineer is very violently befriending the cadet. it is somehow working
- the captain is cooking, all the time, for the whole crew. nobody has informed him that he is supposed to be captaining this crew, not parenting it, and they do not plan to
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Uhura hate vs Concerned fans? Who is really winning?
In response to SNW Uhura hate, I will like to address this objectively and logically.
1. Admitting it is wrong to hate or bully ceelia gooding.
2. Also saying she is miscast in the role of Uhura.
I do not condone any hate or racism to any actor. Nonetheless I do believe some actor are not right for a part or sometimes actors are miscast deliberately for a part to push an agenda.
The very first time I saw the promo for snw, I was shocked at the Uhura photos as I could not truly tell if that was meant to be a boy or a girl. having to now accept that, this is meant to be a young Nyota felt too far-fetched.
We should not condone hate. However fans also need space to express genuine concerns. I do NOT believe that the majority of people that say Ceelia Gooding is miscast hate her. they don’t just think she is right for the role and I agree.
SNW will never have cast a Danny DeVito or a Jason Alexander actor in the role as Spock. They also would never have cast a Rosie O'Donnell as T-Pring or Chapel or Una. I love all these actors but they will be 100% wrong for some trek roles. This is the same with Ceelia Gooding as Uhura, an actress who may also be undergoing gender hormone therapy as a non-binary actor. It makes sense that Uhura looks very androgynous on the show, she is played by a non binary actor.
Sometimes even with racism, some actors still fit the part that could not be denied. Look at Halle Bailey, despite not been white she was still a perfect casting of Ariel in the little mermaid. This is not the case with Ceelia Gooding. There is nothing about her that is similar to TOS Uhura or what made Uhura Iconic.
Alright friend, you caught me on a day when I've got some extra time and spoons so I'm gonna try and engage with your message under the assumption of good faith (but to be clear, with all due respect, framing your message as "objective" and "logical" is giving big dogwhistle energy...)
Quick piece of context setting, I'm mostly familiar with Star Trek media through social osmosis and not personally watching the movies or tv shows, but I would say I'm familiar enough for a general conversation. I also did about 30min of additional research to double check my info but if I get some details wrong, that's why.
For anyone unfamiliar, Strange New Worlds (SNW) is a prequel to the original series of Star Trek (TOS) so they feature a handful of the same characters.
Now, you say there is "nothing about [Celia Gooding] that is similar to TOS Uhura or what made Uhura iconic." I think there's plenty about Gooding that is similar to Nichelle Nichols/TOS Uhura. They are both black, they are both relatively femme presenting, neither is visibly physically disabled, and they are pretty close to the same height (5ft5in vs 5ft8in). So then are you upset that SNW Uhura wears her hair short? Or are you upset that she wears pants and a tunic style jacket as her standard costume rather than sheer tights and a dress that barely covers her butt?
As an aside, "iconic" is a wholly subjective category but I don't disagree that Uhura is an iconic character. That being said, since you point out that quality, if you're up for sharing, I'm curious what you think made TOS Uhura iconic that is so different with SNW Uhura.
To quickly address your counter example, sure, if Danny Devito were cast in a prequel role to Leonard Nimoy's Mister Spock, that would strain credulity. But let me ask you this -- do you *really* see the same level of difference between the visual presentation of Danny Devito vs Leonard Nimoy and Celia Gooding vs Nichelle Nichols? Really? Let me grab a few pictures just to be sure we're all seeing the same people...
(image description: two photos, both featuring two men standing side by side; on the left is Danny Devito, a shorter heavy-set man, with George Clooney, a much taller and slim man; on the right is Leonard Nimoy with Jim Parsons, they are both tall and slim /end id)
(image description: two photos, both featuring femme-presenting individuals standing alone and looking into the camera; the one on the left is wearing a silky red ball gown with a deep-v neckline that shows off their boobs, they are wearing light makeup and some jewelry and their dark hair is buzzed short; the one on the right is wearing a glittery gold ball gown that has two high slits to show off her legs, she is also wearing some makeup and jewelry and her longer fluffier hair is styled in an updo typical of the 1960s /end id)
Look.......... the only specific/clear(ish) objections you've raised about Gooding getting cast in this role are about her appearance. As I have hopefully sufficiently demonstrated, I think those concerns are unfounded. If you have issues with the narrative/plot/character development for SNW Uhura, your problem should be with the writers and not with Celia.
If you're up for a little self reflection, try and get more specific about what bothers you so much about the situation. Connecting some dots here, you said SNW Uhura is too different from TOS Uhura to be acceptable to you, but you did not raise the same concerns about Ethan Peck as SNW Spock, even though he's also different from Leonard Nimoy as TOS Spock. What's the difference in the differences that makes one of these fine and one of these not?
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adding this photo i found of nichelle and leonard bc its so sweet <3
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the musical could be so fucking funny for all the obvious reasons but ALSO because we have:
uhura, who loves music and will take this to the extreme
spock, who loves music but not singing
una, who is a gilbert & sullivan nerd and liable to be SO extra about being in an actual!!! musical!!!
la'an, who lied to them all about having a bad singing voice and will be violently exposed
AND the rest of this amazing crew
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In Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow, Young AU Kirk takes the opportunity to buy hot dogs for himself and La'an; making it a point of survival.
He also takes the opportunity to try poutine. AU Kirk was born on a starship, during a war with the Romulans, where Earth and it's resources are a distant memory. Food, probably grown on the moon, is at a premium.
In Lost in Translation, Young Lt Kirk. Finds out that the Enterprise's kitchen is making real chocolate chip cookies...
...offering to bring back some to Uhura.
This Kirk, if this goes along with TOS canon, was the the survivor of a mass execution, as a result of a food shortage on the colony at Tarsus IV
In any universe, probably as a result of childhood trauma, it appears food is young Jim Kirk's love language...
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