#SPoP salt

[spopsalt]

Hey quick shoutout to "Rick and Morty" for showing that abusers are people too and are capable of change instead of making them into Sunday cartoon villains with zero depth, or turning them into a precious little baby who did nothing wrong ever, and for putting a traumatized character in therapy instead of stuffing them into a romantic relationship *Cough* Helluva Boss and Spop *Cough*

#spop salt #anti spop #spop discourse #spop criticism #spop crit #spop critical #anti catra #helluva boss critique #anti helluva boss #anti stolas #fuck that bird man #fuck stolas #helluva boss critical #helluva boss criticism #helluva boss salt

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

“catra is a complex poc” fuck that. here are some ACTUAL poc animated characters who are just as, if not more complex than catra.

grace monroe (infinity train) • black american

connie maheshwaran (steven universe) • indian-american

katara (avatar the last airbender) • inuk

wolf (kipo and the age of wonderbeasts) • black american

suhara/shadowsan (carmen sandiego) • japanese

korra (the legend of korra) • inuk

jesse cosay (infinity train) • indigenous (apache)

lars barriga (steven universe) • filipino

azula (avatar the last airbender) • japanese

ryan akagi (infinity train) • japanese-canadian

luz noceda (the owl house) • afro-dominican american

(there are a lot more, so i'll be making a part 2!)

#spop critical #spop salt #spop criticism #spop discourse #spop #she ra #anti spop #the owl house #toh #infinity train #tlok #the legend of korra #korra #avatar the last airbender #atla #kipo and the age of wonderbeasts #carmen sandiego #steven universe #steven universe future

[pepper-butler]

im gonna be honest. i love hero x villain ships, and i love angsty enemies to lovers. but i hate catradora

why?

because of that dumb fucking redemption. if it was just a funny lil "what if the hero and villain had a thing for each other" ship i would've loved it.

but trying to redeem an abuser, blame the victim and play the relationship off as healthy? fuck no, catra is to be held accountable for all of her actions and adora deserves better than her. catra is a horrible person and the show should treat her as such, instead of an "uwu gay disaster baby".

enemies to lovers shouldn't be a victim being emotionally scarred from an abuser, it should be enemies who are equal to each other. i would much rather ship catradora if catra hated everyone else just as much as she hates adora

if you ship catradora, fine. good for you, honestly. but don't hit me with the "its healthy" bs, or the "you don't know what enemies to lovers means". i do know what it means, i just don't like the abuser x victim sort

#catras redemption arc can suck my asscheeks #spop salt #spop critisism #spop critical #catra is an abuser #anti catra #anti catradora #catra salt #catra criticism #catradora salt #catradora criticism #adora deserves better

[anti-catradora-collection]

glimmadora appreciation post!

i can't believe they weren't a canon couple. like PLEASE LOOK AT THESE.

(I don't know if this expression exists outside of Brazil, but it's like they say: "they had the knife and the cheese in their hands and didn't do anything with it".)

there's a lot more moments i could add (including the hot springs scene), but tumblr has that limit of 10 images per post.

#glimmadora #glimmer #she ra adora #glimmer spop #glimmer x adora #adora x glimmer #spop critical #spop criticism #spop discourse #spop salt #spop #she ra

[sealnoodlesoup]

My stupid opinion that will get me killed by the entire She-Ra fandom

Shadow Weaver had a better redemption arc than C4tra

Yes, I know that Shadow wasn't fully redeemed, was terrible, and never apologized for her actions. But at least she was useful and helped the rebellion, unlike C4tra who was just getting in everyone's way. Shadow had many chances to betray the rebellion but she didn't meanwhile C4tra (who committed more and worse crimes than Shadow) would probably betray them all if someone offered her greater power because she only joined the rebellion when it was her only chance of survival despite being offered to join them many times before. And while C4tra did say she was sorry she never properly apologized for everything she did (like killing Angela and almost destroying the universe) and her apology always felt like she was just trying to earn sympathy from others. And she continued treating everyone horribly even after that. Shadow Weaver stayed loyal to the rebellion until the very end and even died for them, I know many people say that she only killed herself to traumatize C4tra, but the only proof of that they have is the "You're welcome" and it still can be argued what she meant by that (In my opinion it was "You're Welcome, now that I'm dead I won't bother you anymore" I'm not gonna explain why I think that here because this post is not about that). Shadow was the one who found a way to stop Horde Prime and did everything to make sure it worked, meanwhile, C4tra was being a nuisance and a distraction just so she could be with Adora and didn't care that the world might get destroyed because of it. She tried to stop Adora from taking the failsafe even though Adora was the only person who could survive it and got angry when Adora chose to save the world first instead of making out with her. Just to be clear I'm not talking about who was a morally better person, but who made up for their actions more.

In conclusion: Actions speak louder than words, Shadow Weaver was useful to the rebellion while C4tra was not.

#anti spop #anti catradora #anti catra #anti catra stans #spop discourse #spop critical #spop criticism #spop salt #my opinion #anti c//a #ftlosw

[starlight-bread-blog]

Ememy Vs. Abuser: Catradora

Disclaimer: Netflix doesn't allow me to take screenshots. I tried to find clips on Youtube but a lot of these are stolen. And an obvious tw for abuse.

When Catradora antis bring up how Catra abused Adora in seasons 1-4, a lot of people seem to be confused. The go-to defense is the following:

"Catra and Adora were enemies, they were put against each other in many battles. The 'abuse' is just what you'd normally expect from enemies to lovers".

A complelling argument, for sure. How can you expect of Catra to not be violent with someone who was put against her? The answer to this question can be answered through a different question: Why is Catra the abuser? Why not Adora?

What's the difference between an enemy, and an abuser?

1# The aggressor is particularly cruel to their future partner.

Catra doesn't use her claws on real people very often. She mostly uses them on objects or robots (or Shadow Weather's mask).

At times, it's clear tnat she would gain a lot from using her claws, but she doesn't.

One might suggest that it's because she understands the full weight of using them. Whatever the case may be, there is a person she doesn't seem to have these reservations about: Adora.

2# Their intreractions contain emotional abuse.

Catra often blames Adora for things that aren't her fault. She's cruel to Adora, deliberately and viciously hurts her.

She makes mean spirited remarks and belittles her.

Additionally, Catra gaslit her.

And wouldn't you know it, she takes pride in having control over Adora.

3# There is no balance.

As we previously established, Catra has no problem being needlessly cruel to Adora. But is Catra in the same danger? It it at least mutually toxic?

It's not. Adora can fight and defend herself, but won't do more than she needs. Meanwhile, Catra seem to relish in brutalizing her.

Further more, moments that could be considered romantic build up in their own, "spicy" way, are positioned with Catra on top, where Adora has no choice but to comply, where she's stuck there.

4# The aggressor got in the victim's head.

Adora has a guilt complex. That's not a controversial take. She takes too much responsibility and thinks everything is her fault. A lot of this stems from Shadow Weaver, but there's another source.

And Adora is very quick to internalize her cruel remarks.

In Conclusion:

Catra and Adora's relationship can and was abusive during the war. They share specific patterns of abusive relationships even at war zone. Catra hurting Adora isn't all war stuff, it's personal, it's abusive.

#anti spop #spop critical #spop critisism #anti catradora #anti catra #anti c//a #anticatradora #antic//a #anticatra #antispop #catra critical #spop salt #catradora salt #shera princess of power critical #catradora is abusive #tw abuse #tw mental abuse #tw pysical abuse

[madnessandentropy]

Stans are so funny. According to them, Shadow Weaver is an incredibly skilled and intelligent manipulator and poor Catra (who is also incredibly intelligent) was manipulated by this evil woman.

She's so awful... until she manipulates Glimmer that is. She's so "obviously" evil, and Glimmer is so stupid and selfish for being easily manipulated when she's in a vulnerable position after losing her mother and being forced to grapple with that grief (and her trauma) while fighting in a war and unexpectedly becoming queen.

What a terrible person Glimmer is, she's so evil for working with the enemy and Adora's abuser (remember Adora's abuse only matters when tearing down Glimmer!) even though Catra works alongside a literal genocidal maniac.

Don't forget that Glimmer is abusive to Adora for yelling at her and arguing with her! Catra is Adora's true friend and partner, she only aids in genocide and regularly assaults and tortures Adora because she's traumatised!

#thoughts #spop critical #spop critisism #anti catradora #anti spop #anti catra #spop salt #she ra critical #she ra critcism

[spopsalt]

Alright let me send a message since Helluva Boss, Hazbin Hotel, and Spop character designs didn't get the memo, adding a lot of unessacary detail to a character doesn't make the character look more complex, it just makes the character look cluttered and messy.

#spop critical #anti spop #spop criticism #spop crit #spop discourse #spop salt #hazbin hotel criticism #anti hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel critic #hazbin hotel critical #hazbin hotel critique #helluva boss critique #anti helluva boss #helluva boss criticism #helluva boss critical

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

“catra is a complex poc” fuck that. here are some ACTUAL poc animated characters who are just as, if not more complex than catra. (pt. 2)

mako (the legend of korra) • mixed (japanese and chinese)

min-gi park (infinity train) • korean-canadian

zuko (avatar the last airbender) • japanese

caitlyn kiramman (arcane) • bi-racial (east asian and presumably scottish)

miles morales (spiderverse) • puerto rican, afro-latino

amaya (the dragon prince) • east asian (ambiguous)

marshal lee (fionna and cake) • half-black (technically, marceline is black too but i figured marshal would be considered better representation)

carmen sandiego (carmen sandiego) • hispanic (argentinean-mexican)

toph (avatar the last airbender) • chinese

callum (the dragon prince) • half asian (ambiguous)

#feel free to add more! #i would add every character in atla if i could honestly #spop critical #spop salt #spop criticism #spop discourse #spop #she ra #anti spop #the dragon prince #tdp #carmen sandiego #atla #avatar the last airbender #fionna and cake #adventure time #into the spider verse #across the spiderverse #arcane #infinity train #tlok #the legend of korra #some of these characters' ethnicities are ambiguous #but at least its better than coding an animal hybrid as poc

[newbtheveryawesomeandkindanewby]

Tonight on The C//A Shipper Mental Gymnastics Show

#anti catradora #anti catra #anti c//a #spop salt #spop criticism #spop critical

[pepper-butler]

anti catradora rant

honestly i don’t even care what catradora stans say at this point. “it was because of her childho”-

catra tortured adora. catra hurt adora, even when they were friends. you’re not supposed to be in a relationship with someone like that, no matter how awful someone’s childhood was

to elaborate on the torture thing, I’m specifically talking about the episode “white out”. catra gets hold on first ones tech, and decides to use it against adora. she had every chance and reason to run away, but chose to hurt adora, and didn’t seem to even flinch when her so-called crush was screaming in pain from her actions

adora fought catra too. adora did try to hurt catra: they were enemies after all. but she didn’t try to kill her and cause pain. and catra did. maybe out of anger or trauma, but it doesn’t change the fact that she hurt adora when she had the opportunity not to

catra on the other hand literally tried to end the fucking world. she told adora that she made catra what she became, blaming her for her own abusive actions. adora tried time and time again to reach out to catra so that she could run away with her. but catra refused and stayed, which was obviously adoras fault according to the show’s undertones

she also killed glimmer’s mother but lets forgive her, everyone makes mistakes. i don’t think that glimmer got the apology that she deserved

another thing i noticed is how catra defenders will make glimmer out to be the bad guy.

glimmer and adora fought, and glimmer was honestly a pos against her friends in parts of the last seasons. she should have listened to the people around her.

but she had a fight with adora. she didn’t abuse her, she didn’t hurt her physically or torture her. she was trying to do the right thing, and ended up hurting the people around her in the process because she didn’t listen. she was also a great friend to adora for most of the series, and they made each other grow as people

catra isn’t morally gray her morality is pitch dark

#“she’s such a gay disaster” she’s a war criminal #anti catradora #spop critical #spop critisism #anti catra #spop salt #stop babying her she’s 20 #anyways glimadora should’ve been canon #spop #shera and the princesses of power

[anti-catradora-collection]

just leaving this here.

#also sorry for my absence! im back #im going through a lot and had to take a break from this blog #but thanks for your patience! #spop discourse #spop salt #spop critical #spop criticism #anti catradora #anti spop #anti c//a #anti c/a #spop #she ra #anti catra

[justmenoworries]

Trying to explain to C*tra-stans that C*tra supposedly being remorseful doesn't change the fact that she still did a lot of fucked up stuff completely of her own volition.

And C*tra's go-to response when realizing that she messed up is to dig her heels in and find someone else to blame (in most cases Adora).

She even does this in S5. Literally until the moment she has nowhere else to turn to, C*tra is completely unapologetic and refuses to take responsibility. Even post-"I'm sorry for everything", once she has options again C*tra immediately defaults to playing victim and pushing as much of the blame as she can on other people (mostly Adora).

Remorse doesn't mean shit if you don't act on it.

#spop critical #anti c//a #spop salt #anti spop season 5 #anti spop

[prince-toffee]

No matter how much time passes I'm still salty over the fact that even though Entrapta is a GROWN-ASS woman in her late 20s early 30s, she's pushed and ordered around by literal teenagers. The disrespect.

#entrapta #spop critical #spop salt

[shyrgyrryn]

y'all, I just remembered that Bow is the youngest of thirteen. Where did the other twelve go? Even when the world is quite literally ending, Bow shows no concern for or even mentions his brothers. His fathers don't mention them either. Not a single one.

What's the point of giving him siblings, especially that many, and not including them in the story some way. Especially in situations where it makes sense.

They could have easily made Bow's backstory involve these characters. In my rewrite, I plan(?) on having Bow have an older brother (only one because thirteen kids are way too many) who was killed by the Horde. This is the reason why he insists on fighting in the war. It is also the reason why his fathers are so against him being involved.

They could have easily added something like this in the reboot. Bow literally said in the second episode that "everyone has lost someone to the Horde."

Who did he lose? Where are his brothers? Are they okay? Does he not have a close relationship with them? I guess we'll never know.

#spop discourse #spop critical #spop salt #anti spop #bad writing #she ra #spop #shera critical #bow #bow she ra #bow spop