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awkward-sultana · 4 months

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Scenes I would have liked to see in Magnificent Century (always being updated)

These are just things I would have liked to see, or honestly just hyper specific scenes I’ve envisioned in my own head. Don't come at me about realism. That's not why any of us are here.

Would love to hear everyone's opinions and what you would have like to see in the show!

Hürrem telling Suleiman about Leo and him accepting it A big part of Hürrem’s power in the harem in the show is that she got away with a lot of things, whether it be through manipulation or Suleiman’s love for her, but mostly it was through being smart and manipulative. That’s a huge part of her character, but it would have been nice to see a moment where she doesn’t win and has to come clean to Suleiman. His acceptance of Leo would have made their love more genuine in my eyes. He knew she was a slave and had a life before him.

Hürrem's past as a priest’s daughter When Hürrem went to Edirne, it would have been great to see her open the palace to the sick and nursed them instead of sitting there helplessly in literally one spot the whole time. We saw her help Hatice medically in seasons 1 and 2 and she was a priest’s daughter so we know she saw a lot of sickness and has some basic idea of giving aid.

Hürrem seriously going off on Suleiman at least once Again, a big part of Hürrem's legacy was how nuts Suleiman was for her and how she could get away with things other concubines couldn’t. I would have liked to see her really loser her temper at him at least once. Maybe go off about how difficult it is in the harem, being a woman battling for her life and her kids’ lives. It would have made their relationship seem deeper than it was in the show.

Generally seeing Suleiman's absolute obsession with Hürrem That man was nuts about her in real life. True Gomez and Morticia Addams.

Some good moments between young Mustafa and Hürrem Like thanking him for saving Mehmet from drowning in the first season or saying, “Thank you for being such a good big brother to my son.” She protected him during the janissary riots, but we didn’t see much day to day interactions between them. It would have made the distancing between them more impactful.

Another grown sultana in the family, like Mahidevran’s daughter Raziye It would have been great to see the dynamic between Mihrimah and another daughter, especially one that was older but still within her age range. The aunts were older than her and she constantly had to show them respect, so it didn’t feel like a fair fight. And Esmahan had to defer to Mihrimah too because she was the Sultan’s daughter. Another daughter who is equal to Mihrimah in most ways would have been fun.

Hürrem pulling away during the whole Firuze thing Hürrem had to stay on Suleiman’s good side because he’s the sultan, but I would have loved to see her pull away from him in small ways, like not spending time with him or choosing to eat alone and not with him. I’m a sucker for a good grovel.

Suleiman actually apologizing for things he’s done Again, I love a good grovel and it never happens in this show. He always just got sick and woke up and told Hürrem how much he loved her. This goes into Hürrem pulling away during the Firuze arc and showing Suleiman her love is reasonably conditional. Again, real life Suleiman was whipped for Hürrem.

Ibrahim and Hürrem bonding at least once over being slaves and considering what their lives might have been like at home This kind of goes into my last point of Hürrem pulling away from Suleiman when he was with Firuze. I always thought that would be a great scene when they’re having dinner with the dynasty members when Firuze was in the picture. I envisioned Hürrem mulling about her “home” in Eastern Europe and confusing the dynasty about what "home" to her seems to mean now that's she's pretty unhappy, then asking Ibrahim in front of all of them what he thinks his life might have been like if he hadn’t been taken. This could have given way to a deep scene between Hürrem and Ibrahim as well as a sweet scene later on of Suleiman asking Hürrem to share her memories of her home.

Firuze slowly losing favor instead of an instantaneous decision There are so many deus ex machinas in the show that act as resolutions to issues and the Firuze thing was one of them. I would have liked to see her slowly lose favor, like treating Cihangir without permission from Hürrem or Suleiman, being disrespectful to Hürrem in front of him, or butting in on the family grieving Mehmet’s injury.

Hafsa and Hürrem bonding over something other than hating Mahidevran, like the loss of Hürrem's unmentioned son It was great to see her realize Mahidevran’s manipulations, but I hoped for a deeper resolution between her and Hürrem. We only see Hafsa acknowledging Cihangir’s illness like once or twice, which is so out of character, but I know they were trying to keep her firmly in the area of antagonist (crappy writing). Hürrem had another son, Şehzade Abdullah, who died as a toddler. Losing a child would have been a good bonding moment for them and brought them back as mothers.

Hurrem’s kids speaking Russian(?) One thing I always found wholesome is when children speak the language of both parents. It would have been a great homage to Hürrem's roots, since we didn’t see it a lot, especially in season 3. On that note, I would have liked to see Hürrem revert to her native tongue when she lost her temper, since that’s super common.

Mercan going over to Hürrem's side and staying in Season 4 One of Hürrem's best character traits was her ability to make her enemies her friends and Mercan was a great enemy. Convincing someone who was so zealously devoted to another dynasty member to come over to her side? Iconic. His and Sümbül's dynamic was also great and watching them being forced to work together would have been fun.

A reunion between Hürrem and Gulnihal, maybe Hürrem meeting Gülnihal's kids and husband and seeing Hürrem's kids grown Characters tend to disappear and never be mentioned again in this show despite their big influence on characters and their development. She should have gotten a kiss on the hand like Hatice and Suleiman did for Afife. She raised Hürrem's kids.

Ibrahim telling Suleiman to stay out of his marriage during the Nigar affair This is probably the most unrealistic thing I envisioned, but I love when one character beneath another in rank or station stands up to that person as a friend. And Ibrahim was getting bolder throughout the seasons so it wouldn’t have been totally out of character.

Hürrem helping Nigar escape with her daughter instead of Firuze The whole Hürrem helping Firuze escape thing made no sense but it was in there to prove that Firuze was a spy. I think I speak for everyone in this fandom when I say I would have liked to see Hürrem help Nigar and Esmanur escape instead and the whole kidnapping Mihrimah’s baby thing not happen. But it would not hinge on the writer's hating Nigar's character and making her lose her mind and betraying Hürrem for a man.

Mihrimah being Selim’s valide sultan Mihrimah was well aware of the fratricide law, it was the whole reason she worked with Hürrem to kill Mustafa. She wasn’t so naïve to think her own brothers wouldn't get caught in each other’s crosshairs. Kösem forgave Osman for killing her own son, I don’t think it’s out of the realm of realism to see Mihrimah and Selim get back on good terms. It’s one of my favorite parts of her real life legacy.

Suleiman letting Hürrem do something really shady for him at least once He couldn't get his hands dirty, but he knew at least to some degree how cunning his wife was, even if he was willfully blind to it. Would have loved to see a "I won't ask questions" kind of conversation between them and Hürrem strolling from the room like a hitman for hire.

Cihangir seeing some sort of consequences for his naïve support of Mustafa As wise as he was, he was so painfully naïve when it came to Mustafa, seeing him face some consequences for that would have been satisfying.

Suleiman seeing more negative ramifications of sending Hürrem away in S3 Suleiman tended to send Hürrem off willy nilly because he could and not really take into account for the ramifications, especially in such a charged atmosphere. Seeing consequences to those choices would have been satisfying and would have reinforced Hürrem's importance as a partner, parent to adolescent children, harem ruler, etc.

Mihrimah’s trip back to the palace in S2 after Hürrem was ambushed being more difficult, like an actual kidnapping I really like antagonists being taken down by their own hubris and it would have been fun to see Hafsa suffer real consequences for her fake ambush.

Hatice going off on Hafsa about how she treats Hürrem at least once in S2 She questioned her a few times in season 2, like when Hürrem's horse was stabbed. She did it a few times in calm ways in season 1 and once or twice in season 2, but seeing her lose her temper even a little would have been satisfying. I think this could have more happened if they had stuck to actual history and Hafsa had come as a slave and not a princess.

Suleiman seeking more comfort in Hürrem Suleiman was described as “weak” for Hürrem and it wasn’t really shown in his more emotional moments. The show expected us to be fine with his speeches and poems and see basic expressions of affection as “weakness.” When Ibrahim died, I would have really like to see him break down with Hürrem, his face in her stomach, the whole nine yards. He really just glared at her in that scene.

Hürrem and Suleiman being more of political and personal partners In the show a lot he tells her to “mind her business” and “don’t get involved in things that don’t concern you.” He also blew her off and treated her like a child when she voiced certain concerns (his condescending little smiles made me feral). A big part of her legacy was being an advisor to him and their abilities to share with each other what they couldn’t share with others.

The real importance of Hürrem's new haseki status and what that meant This was such a thing for me. Hürrem being the first with the haseki status was HUGE in the harem at the time but that whole story line was abandoned for the sake of rivalry between her and Mahidevran, which would have been there regardless. I hated seeing Hürrem curtsy to the sultanas in later seasons, especially in season 4 when Vahide was the actress. It was like having to watch Hafsa curtsy to anyone.

Mihrimah pulling away from Hürrem more during her engagement/marriage to Rüstem "Yeah, I'm doing this for my brothers but do you expect me to happy about it? Gush and fawn over having a kid with a man who kind of repulses me? I have postpartum depression? I'm super unhappy so I can't imagine why." Like I've mentioned before, big fan of having a character's ego come back and bite them and I think Hürrem should have suffered more consequences for basically telling Mihrimah her happiness doesn't matter. She was a little delusional in S4, acting all coy, telling Mihrimah she still loves Rüstem and they would find their way back to each other. Girl...she never liked her husband, stop trying to act like her homegirl and push her to be happy in a marriage she would have rather died than be in.

Gülfem standing up to Hatice at least once Hatice had a real high horse sometimes and even if she was insulting someone else, I could tell it made Gülfem feel a certain way because she was also a slave. This is yet another character I would have liked to see lose their temper in a more aggressive way. Like, girl, have some character development.

Some sort of resolution between Mihrimah and Esmahan Mihrimah had pretty much know other girl her age to lean on, I think it would have been easier to invest inheritance character if you saw her break down maybe once with Esmahan instead of trying to be tough. Like when Esmahan went to comfort her before her wedding. Mihrimha’s fake tough persona in that moment seemed hollow and just like a young bratty kid. Or when Humasah was kidnapped.

Bali Bey manhandle the sultanas a little bit during their questioning about Hürrem's disappearance I’m going to get a lot of flack for this one. I don’t mean him really putting his hands on the actresses, I mean like grabbing Şah's arm when she leaves. I like seeing haughty characters being taken down a peg. They would have seen they’re not as infallible as their status makes them feel.

More bonding between Gülfem and Hürrem at least once Gülfem lost a child and saw what Mahidevran and Hürrem had to go through fearing for their own sons. Hürrem had the chance to pay Gülfem some sort of compliment on the balcony when Cihangir was sick, like "I'm not as strong as you." Out of character, but this is basically an OOC post.

Hürrem let some things take their natural course Like when Mahidevran discharged Esma when she took charge of the harem. Suleiman would have caught on eventually that Hürrem was constantly unable to spend time with him due to taking care of 5 kids, or having to train brand new concubines.

Hatice being happy with her new husband I really liked him.

Hatice getting some closure about Sadika A big part of Hatice’s early character was her empathy for those below her (most of the time). She liked Sadika and wanted to see her happy and I’m sure Sadika had grown some affection for Hatice. I would have like to see Sadika write a letter to Hatice before attempting to murder Suleyman saying something along the lines of “I’m sorry for lying to you, my friendship with you was real but this was more important.”

Hürrem coming together with one of Suleiman's's sisters just as a fellow woman Maybe when Lutfi hit Şah, Hürrem was there and Şah let her pull her up off the floor. They were all women and mothers stuck in a patriarchy.

Mahidevran give Helena permission to clap back at Fatma In that scenes when Fatma was like "Did you really think you were going to marry him?" Saying something like, "At least he wanted to marry me" and Mahidevran laughing.

More affection between the concubines and other harem members and the royal kids They were all raised in the same harem, I'm sad we didn't get to see some found family-ish dynamics. Those kids must have had a lot of "aunts and uncles" in the servants. I'm sure Mihrimah saw more than just one or two of the concubines as mother/aunt/sister figures, especially as the Sultan's only daughter.

A better ending for Gülfem Because what the fuck was that?

Mihrimah going off on her aunts at least once While she had to defer to them because they were older and was an unspoken respect thing, she could get away with talking to them a certain way more than maybe Hürrem could. "I know you're trying to kill my mother and that can't happen because then what happens to us?" or "I know you killed Nazil, who raised us, and you thought we'd never find out and see you differently? Stop acting like you give an absolute flying fuck about us when you know what will happen if our mother is killed or Mustafa becomes Sultan. This is war."

Hürrem showing more affection to adult Mihrimah She absolutely had to defer towards her sons' safety, but sometimes she acted like she actively disliked her only daughter in S4.

Mihrimah not being a brat when she was young (S2) It would have made her rise to power more impressive and more endearing. Sometimes older Mihrimah just seemed like a princess who had never been told no so she always expected to win.

Mahiedvran and Hürrem sharing one sincere hug They had more things in common than not. They were both women, mothers, slaves stuck in a patriarchy and both could lose their sons with one decision from a man who has complete control.

Hürrem having more quietly pervasive PTSD symptoms. She displayed plenty of symptoms like hyperarousal, emotional over-stress, emotional dysregulations, hypervigilance, etc, but a lot of symptoms can be more quietly sinister and they missed that chance. The symptoms they did display first and foremost took away from her character because we couldn't differentiate all the time between angry Hürrem and traumatized Hürrem. "She's angry and violent and irritable? Oh, that's jUsT HüRrEm."

More rank-opposite hand kissing One trope I will forever and forever always live for is shows of deference opposite of rank. When Suleiman and Hatice kissed Afife's hand? Loved it. Suleiman kissing Hafsa's hand? Not totally the same, but kind of still love it.

Afife telling Şah and Hatice she was ashamed of them at least once Would have rocked their shit. And you know she for sure was.

Mihrimah being happy with Taşlıcalı in the end Probably the second most implausible head canon. They had both lost a lot and know what war costs, why not end up with another person who can empathize with your unique pain?

More of Gülfem and Hürrem's real historical relationship Always going to touch on sticking to historical accuracy when I get a chance. Leslie Peirce touches on the fact that Gülfem was probably more of a mentor to Hürrem than she was in the show, guiding Hürrem through what was an unprecedented rise in the harem and, therefore, a huge and probably shocking rise in responsibilities that Hürrem didn't know how to manage on her own. Suleiman trusted Gülfem with Hürrem when he was on campaign and Gülfem was most likely there when Hürrem died. Instead of being the dynasty's emotional support pet in season 3, we should have seen her turn coats for the better.

Women lashing out at each other for their children and not for a man The real reasons Mahidevran and Hürrem probably lashed out at each other the most was because the fratricide law dictated every facet of their lives. Love, sex and jealousy were not half as much on their minds as the show made it out to be. Let me see vicious mothers, not jealous girls.

Hafsa and Hürrem having one good hug Self explanatory

More about Suleiman's late children He had I think 2-3 children before Mustafa that all died of the plague that we never really heard about. And it would have given even more credence of the severity of Mahidevran trying to poison Hürrem when she was pregnant.

More about the entire royal family's grief and trauma with Sultan Selim I That man was batshit and you hear offhanded comments such as "I see your father when I look at you" when Suleyman does something cruel. Go more into that. What was it like to fear for your life, your son's/brother's/uncle's lives? Selim I literally hunted half his family down and executed them. It would have given them so much more depth as characters.

Leo haunting Ibrahim In the back of scenes, the blurry character the audience only just notices, the specter standing over this shoulder in a quiet room, the beating heart beneath the floorboards. The start of the death of his innocence given form, standing at the end of the hall as his body is being carried away. Fucking art.

Nigar being on Hürrem's side in season 3 and being totally psycho about it I would like like to see Nigar regrow the brain cell she had in season 1, but maintained her scorched earth policy in season 3, but on Hürrem's side. Would have been great. Snapped: Harem Edition.

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magnificentposting-fabrizioart · 11 months

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Almost done with Episode 11.

Yeah I'm back, even tho it's busy days.

Would you look at that, Hürrem is starting to actually try to help herself, kudos to that I guess.

She'll still get shout out of a cannon as a ball rather than actually apologize to anyone but the Sultan, but it's amazing progress nonetheless.

Poor Ayse Hatun, btw.

Currently having the HP style "no one believes me yet I know" arc, and also utterly dumbfounded by Hürrem acting like a human.

Poor girls feels like she's been gaslit by the entire harem.

On that note, Dammit Sadika you were going so good and now you risk your cocer every scene, lmao.

Boncuk literally only got off because in this Palace people are more concerned with not stirring up stuff than with actually getting to the bottom of something.

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garnetbutterflysblog · 7 months

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I have to admit I’m very impressed by Hürrem in this episode. When she found out about Gülnihal’s halvet, she imitated the actions done to her and did something terrible to her friend. Then she discovered the consequences of that. She isn’t Mahidevran and doesn’t have that established reputable reputation as well as the protection Mahi does. So Hürrem faced more consequences despite the similarities of their actions. I am not hating on Mahidevran by saying this*. Hürrem has learned she doesn’t have the power to take that kind of action and she seems to have regained a moral compass but the latter could just be my hope. So instead of hurting Sadika, she finds a way to remove her new rival from the situation- sending her away to serve Hatice. It’s smart and bloodless. It also reminds me of historical Hürrem in a way. I don’t know if there were any favorites or rivals she had married off, but in her book The Imperial Harem, Leslie Pierce writes that once Suleiman and Hürrem became monogamous and certainly after they were married, the girls brought to the harem were usually married off to statesmen. Basically sent away from the harem to serve the Ottoman Empire in a different way just as Hürrem is doing to Sadika in the show.

* Fostering such good relationships with Hafsa and Ibrahim (the two people whom-up to this point-have the most influence on Suleiman) was a good strategy and it helped her. She attempted to kill a dynasty member (Mehmet) and could’ve killed the sultan himself. Yet, her relationship with Hafsa and Ibrahim shielded her from punishment and almost all consequences. The only consequences she truly faces are gaining a rightfully paranoid Hürrem as an enemy and entirely losing Suleiman’s love for her. To be fair, she doesn’t quite understand the latter is a consequence or it’s finality as Suleiman is being coerced into having Thursday nights with her and has used her to punish Hürrem (when he left for the Rhodes campaign).

#magnificent century #muhteşem yüzyıl #hurrem sultan #suleiman the magnificent #sultan suleyman #mahidevran sultan #hafsa sultan #hurrem hatun #ibrahim paşa #gulnihal hatun #sadika hatun #victoria hatun #viktoria hatun #queue

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minetteskvareninova · 2 years

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hi!! it's me again. what are your thoughts on how this franchise portrays harem drama? personally, i think they totally wasted the heck out of this premise. you have this place full of women with a very similar trauma, but who are all supposed to compete with each other! perfect for very juicy dynamics and conflicts. the show only does... Mahidevran vs Hurrem. over and over again.

Eh, depends on what you classify as "harem drama". Struggle for power? Complex scheming with plans within plans that fucking Dune pales in comparison to? Girlies starting MINI SLAVE REVOLTS?! Yeah, give me that shit NOW. It can get a little repetitive at times, but it's never boring. When the goal is to just get the guy, it's largely underwhelming and annoying. If only all of it was indeed like Mahidevran vs. Hürrem, because they at least have the juicy long-time struggle, like, they are each other's fucking nemesis, and eventually it's not even about the guy, but about power and survival of their sons.

The Gülnihal drama was only interesting because of the impact on their friendship and because she was more than a one-dimensional enemy for Hürrem to "slay" by killing her or having sex with Süleyman. The Russian concubines were the pointless bullshit ever and also gave us the scene of Hürrem's self-harm, thanks I hate it. And thank God, her rivalry with Hürrem was never a big part of Sadika's storyline, which is why I loved it so much (well, that and of course the fact that the main point of it was shanking Süleyman, even if her mission was ultimately unsuccessful).

Isabela Fortuna was wasted af, like, imagine the good shit this might've been if it was actually focused on her escape attempts and relationship with Süleyman in ways that aren't just Stockholm syndrome. Also, her rivalry with Hürrem sucked. Like, bitch, why are you attacking this girl?! She doesn't want to sleep with Süleyman any more than you want her to! Then there are the two chicks in season 2 that Süleyman didn't even look at before sending them away, again kinda wasting our time.

Firuze... *sigh* I know some of y'all like this storyline and are able to find something good and worthwhile in it. Good for you. Because I personally couldn't stand it. I really don't get what Süleyman sees in this chick, like I am pretty sure he's just getting off on Hürrem's anger and despair. Or maybe he's sleeping with her just to see how he'd like a girl that isn't an insufferable drama queen for once. I don't know, because the show doesn't answer this most interesting of questions. So instead the whole thing devolves into an endless catfight that distracts us from Ibrahim's eminent demise, which is kind of a problem, since I've been looking forward to Ibrahim's death for the entire previous season. Thanks, I hate it.

Nazenin is just there, because Fatma thinks it's funny to make Hürrem suffer. She also says something about a prince, but that part of her plan was always kinda dumb. Nazenin is annoying and I hate her, but I like Fatma, so in the end it just ends up being less bad than the other ones, but still not good.

I will say, Fatma Hatun's quest to fuck Mustafa was very entertaining at first, but then he shuns her for a more stable girl and the whole thing devolves into the predictable yandere bullshit that I hate so much. I mean, this is Fatma, some yandereing is to be expected, but for it to be the focus of her character? No. Fuck you. Also, Fatma and Nurbanu are the only two women who are in any way skilled in the art of getting into man's pants. Also, Firuze, kinda. Others either use super crude methods (dancing, or boob touching - hi Efsun) or just are themselves, which don't get me wrong, that's often quite enough, but still, it's more fun for us as viewers when they get creative. I complained endlessly about Rumeysa and Ayşe's whole thing, and I don't think it gets any better later. Also, it's pointless af. Thanks, I hate it.

Reyhan or whatever her name is is the most boring part of Nurbanu's whole existence and I hate her. Like, Nurbanu is seriously on a whole another level from this bitch, no wonder she is just shoved into the background untill the murder attempt.

Kaya only exists to explain Bayezit's older kids and for Huricihan to be horrible to. I hate both of them.

Mahfiruz the Greek was horrible, but kinda clever, which means she had potential against the scrappy little thing like Anastasia. I also liked Sayeşte's storyline... So of course they had to kill both of them and bring in Mahfiruze the Circassian, the most annoying bitch in the universe. Katerina was there to be sexy and threatening, and was supremely bad in both. Nazenin was easier to take seriously. But Yasemin takes the cake for the biggest waste of a character. Like can you imagine, her and Kösem learning they are sisters?! The drama?! The joy in what was to be joyless times for Kösem?! But nooo, she had to be killed to... Show us what a monster Safiye is? As if we haven't just seen an entire season of that?! Fuck off with that.

The Osman-Meleksima-Akile thing again never went anywhere, why didn't they just cut Akile entirely is beyond me. Like, it's not like they are averse to that - they did cut a lot of superfluous children of the sultans.

I haven't seen the entirety of season 2 of Kösem, but I will say this - getting me to care who gets the privilege of being in an utterly terrible relationship with Murat is a doomed endeavour, and it sure as hell isn't made any easier by Farya and Ayşe being boring and terrible respectively.

#magnificent century #answered asks

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iceprincessviviane · 2 years

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Magnificent Century Character Tag Game

(I didn't get tagged, but I love idea and never actually post anything about MC, soo let's go! Hope you can forgive me.)

I really want to thank @hurremsphoenix and @minetteskvareninova I saw their posts and dare to write that 💖 (If you don't want to be tagged or you are uncomfortable dm me I will delete the tag.)

Warnings: It can be long, because I watched whole series long ago, now I am rewatching some episodes for personal reasons.

The character I first fell in love with: Hatiçe, because I very liked her early softness and her frobidden love with Ibrahim was soooo romantic (at least for me, I love such things), later I didn't like her behaviour and thing that each of Suleiman sister was anti Hürrem. Early Gülfem, I like that despite losing son, she had respect from Süleyman and Hafsa, also she was wise in her way.

The character I never expected to love so much as I do now: it's hard question, but I guess Mahidevran, in early episodes I couldn't actually decide between her and Hürrem, but later I appreciate her and Mustafa dynamic and her caring way towards him.

The character I love than none else does: Nasuh, I really like him and think that he deserved better. Nigar, I just loved characters aside Sultans and odalisks, she was interesting and I like her as kalfa. Atmaca, I have soft spot for him because of being loyal. (I kinda have things for side characters.)

The character everyone loves, I just don't: Nurbanu I think, but it isn't strong dislike, she wanted to help Selim, but I didn't like her ways with other hatuns and big ego. I actually like Nurbanu~Hürrem relation and later dealing with Selim.

The character I am obsessed with: Çihangir, my cinnamon roll, adorable chocolate chip. I love absolutely everything about him. He was wise, caring and strong in his own way. He deserved better for sure and I love that he actually knew what was happening in palace. When he said that Mustafa can't have bad intentions when he has military advance - in episode when Mustafa raided capital because of posion jacket, just made my heart jump. I can go on and go on about Çihangir. (Well I wasn't watching in English but in my native so sorry for bad translations about series)

The character I would slap: Süleyman for a lot of reasons, late Ibrahim and Hatiçe like come on, Rüstem (he was annoying me almost everytime), Nazenin, Dilşah and a little Huricihan but that would be the gentlest slap in history of gentlest slaps.

The character I'd want to be: Çihangir, as I said he was wise, strong and he got fears but he was facing them. Hürrem, but in way of being determinated and knowing yourself. Atmaca as said above he was loyal.

The paring I love: early Hatiçe and Ibrahim, Huricihan and Bayezid (forbidden love too), Selim and Nurbanu, I like their dynamic, but in separate way not really. Selim was doing everything to be good in Süleyman eyes, despote having flaws (wine drinking). Nasuh and Sadika, but from his perspective, but very little. Çihangir and Huricihan again from his perspective, it was pure and innocent love. I had attempt to read about Leyla and Manjun because of that. Bayezid and Defne, late I prefered them than Nurbanu and Selim, I like that he forgive her and Defne was different than Nurbanu. I want to include there brotherly love between Mustafa, Bayezid and Çihangir, I am hoe for strong siblings bonds and I loved that in this trio each of them was unique. Mustafa had to be careful all the time, Bayezid thought he was not appreciated and Çihangir was struggling with his disability. I like that they found comfort and understanding in themselfes.

The paring I despise: Süleyman and Firuze, I always have mixed feelings about them, but although Firuze seemed different and something new in series, in whole I don't like their paring. Attempting to give Mihrimah love interest just to show how she was unhappy. Right Rüstem was older than her, because of marriage he have become Grand Vizier, and was loyal to Hürrem, but actually for me Mihrimah was in good position during marriage. She was close to palace, so could visit it anytime, Süleyman and Hürrem took care of all her worries and troubles, she had respect, her husband too in general way. Right she couldn't get divorced, because Hürrem would lost her support and her brothers would be in danger, it was hard situation, but personal for me, there were more + than -. Rüstem loved her and he might annoy her with that, but it was better than hate I guess 😅 and they had same goal, to take care of Selim, Bayezid and Çihangir.

#magnificent century #iceprincessviviane #personal

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