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coulsandies · 15 hours

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mdzs headcanon of the day #248 !

one time songxiao broke the bed frame, not because of what people were thinking but because there was a BIG ASS bug on the ceiling that they needed to kill so they had to jump on the bed while also trying to kill the bug. there’s a small blood stain on the ceiling from how hard xxc whacked it with a book. there’s also a slight indent in the ceiling because he hit it so hard with said book

(also i’d like to note that i’ve done something similar to this, but instead of breaking the bed frame i almost put a whole in the wall after throwing a big ass stack of flash cards at a big full force)

#mdzs #mo dao zu shi #mdzs headcanons #mxtx mdzs #mxtx #grand master of demonic cultivation #grandmaster of demonic cultivation #grandmaster of demonic arts #founder of demonic cultivation #founder of diabolism #cql #the untamed #xiao xingchen #song lan #song zichen #songxiao #songxiao my beloved #i’ll never stfu abt songxiao

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kinokoozume · 10 months

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sorry i forgot that i have tumblr😭 anyways here's songxiao bc they deserve better

#songxiao #song lan #song zichen #xiao xingchen #mdzs #mo dao zu shi #they deserve to be happy #i love them #so much

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asksythe · 10 months

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Is there any cultural significance or reasoning for Xiao Xingchen giving both his eyes to Song Lan, instead of just one?

I can certainly see there being plot and/or thematic reasons for it (like it makes a better parallel with Wei Wuxian who couldn’t give just half his golden core; it’s necessary for Xiao Xingchen to be completely blind for the Yi city tragedy to play out as it did; etc.) but I’m wondering if there is more to it then that.

Your insights on other bits of MDZS lore have been really interesting!

That’s a tough question. The short answer is: yes. It’s a cultural thing.

The longer answer is that I’m not sure I can adequately answer your question... because I feel that I'm not qualified. It goes deep. This is reaching the DNA of Chinese culture and the value system itself. I would say it’s probably better if you read more Chinese classics or immerse yourself in the culture. This is one of those things that are immensely difficult to put into words. The best way is to experience it.

But since you asked me, I’m going to at least give it a try.

The reason that Xiao Xingchen gave both eyes to Song Lan and the true root of the Yi City tragedy includes three different cultural concepts: Jishi 济世 (the Chinese ideal of saving the world), Enyuan Yinguo 恩怨因果 (Karma and Karmic Debts), and the quest to find Dao 道 (truth).

1/ Jishi 济世

济世 Jishi is a Chinese term denoting a philosophical ideal pursued by certain classes or castes of people since ancient times in China. It means to sacrifice and save the world. It’s self-sacrificial heroism in the most ideal and purest sense of the concept, similar to our modern-day Doctors without Borders.

This is Xiao Xingchen’s higher calling, his chosen purpose. Xiao Xingchen came down from Baoshan Sanren’s mountain at 17 years old with one purpose: to make the world a better place. He rejected no one who needed his help. He went out of his way to reject the invitations from the cultivator Houses to join their ranks and enjoy the wealth and privilege it might bring because he didn’t want to be distracted from a higher calling.

Using modern Western vernacular, Xiao Xingchen is a hero. That’s his religion and identity. That’s on top of a personality that already holds high self-responsibility. So is there any wonder he feels he’s responsible for Song Lan’s loss and must give Song Lan both eyes?

2/ Enyuan Yinguo 恩怨因果

恩怨 En Yuan. Yuan is resentment, spite, hatred, grudge. But En is a lot harder to nail down in English. It’s commonly translated as favor, but ‘favor’ has none of the cultural weight and encoded social obligation of En. The pure meaning of En is ‘a good deed done from the heart.’ A kindness. A mercy. A gift.

For example, Jiang Fengmian taking Wei Ying into Jiangshi is En. Wen Ning saving Jiang Cheng and Wei Ying is En. Wen Ning reclaiming Jiang Fengmian and Yu Furen’s corpses and artifacts is En. Big En, comparable rebirthing an entire household. Wen Ruohan teaching Zhao Zhuli (later on known as Wen Zhuliu) and granting him a chance to prove himself is also En. Nie Mingjue doing the same to Jin Guangyao is the same level of En (granting critical knowledge and opportunity to completely change one’s life). Jin Guangyao taking in Lan Xichen and hiding him from Wen pursuers before the Sunshot campaign is En.

因果 Yinquo = Karmic Bonds, the fruits that bloom from the seeds one sow. It’s also understood as a link between people’s life. Our lives collide, intertwine, and diverge like threads on a tapestry. We are each bound to each other by the threads of Karma and our debt to each other. This is yinguo.

There is a deep-seated belief in China that a person’s life is a ledger. To live is to constantly add to and take away from the ledger. When other people perform En for you, that means you take from their ledger and add to yours. When someone takes from your ledger, a yuan/grudge is born. From the moment you were born, you were granted the greatest of En, the gift of life from your parents.

In Chinese culture, it’s believed that one must try one’s best to square the ledger. One must repay En and reclaim Yuan. Entangled Enyuan eventually leads to tangled Yinguo, and that’s just a big headache nobody wants because it directly impacts your afterlife, your next life, your descendants, and sometimes even your ancestors that are already dead.

To strive your best to repay En is seen as a virtue. Of course, not everyone is capable or even wants to reach this ideal. Like when we say it’s good to be honest, but being truly and completely honest in daily life is… a task, shall we say. Sometimes, it’s very hard to truly repay what you owe. And sometimes, your Enyuan with a person or with a House is so entangled that it’s either hard to really say who owes who, or hard to admit to the fact that you are the one in the reds.

You are seeing parallels between Xiao Xingchen and Wei Wuxian because they both embody this ideal to the extreme. Both would take it upon themselves to repay. Xiao Xingchen paid with his eyes. Wei Wuxian repaid Jiang Fengmian’s En by giving Jiang Cheng his jindan, helped Jiang Cheng rebuild Jiang Shi using Guidao (Path of the Dead), gave up all his war achievements for the rebuilding of Jiangshi and left Jiangshi without a penny to his name despite being a major contributor to victory, and then… repaid Wen Ning, Wen Qing’s En to Jiang Cheng and Jiangshi in Jiang Cheng’s place when the other didn’t.

In some ways, you can say that both Xiao Xingchen and Wei Wuxian are flawed in that they underestimate their own value and well-being and overestimate what other people do for them. You can even say that they are foolish because they pay for En that isn’t theirs to pay, and that eventually leads to their suffering and death. But this is just the kind of people they are. They are true idealists who genuinely believe in a Truth greater than mortal squabbles. They are pure, uncorrupted Daoists, the kind that holds the founding precepts of Daoism in their heart.

In the novel, there are many examples of different people and how they see Enyuan Yinguo and how much value they put in them.

We have Su Se, who was saved by Wei Wuxian twice but didn’t even acknowledge it. Instead, he saw that as a Yuan because he probably hated the fact that it showed how weak and insignificant he was. Yet Jin Guangyao merely remembered his name and gave him some support to create his House, and he was willing to be Jin Guangyao’s attack dog, going so far as to abandon his own House members in Fuma Cave when Jin Guangyao’s plan failed and using his life to buy time for Jin Guangyao in Guanyin temple.

We also have Jiang Cheng, who was well aware that he owed Wen Ning and Wen Qing, but didn’t want to acknowledge it because he was poisoned with trauma and hatred at the hands of Wen Chao and felt that because of his relationship with Wei Ying, he was entitled to Wen Ning’s En. And yet he is rational enough to understand that admitting to owing this ginormous En and not repaying it is a huge stigma on House Jiang, and so even when he answered Nie Mingjue, confirming that the Wen remnants did have En with him, he answered in such a way that downplayed the enormity of En. Answering truthfully would have exonerated Wei Wuxian and the Wen remnants because the laws regarding Enyuan are so foundational that no one could have blamed the Jiang for saving the Wen remnants. But answering truthfully would have been admitting to his owing the Wen, setting House Jiang against House Jin, and turning House Jiang into a target of ridicule for other Houses because such an En should have been paid long before Wei Wuxian had to take drastic measures and jailbroke the Wen remnants from Quiongqi Path.

We also have Lan Xichen, who effectively compromised his entire House and compromised his own judgment because he saw Jin Guangyao as having granted him a huge En (which is not wrong, per se).

And then we have Jin Guanyao, who killed both people who bestowed En on him (Wen Ruohan and Nie Mingjue both gave Jin Guangyao critical knowledge, opportunities, and elevated him above his station. And yet when it came to Lan Xichen, despite his effectively pushing the Lan to death in the second Burial Mound Siege, Jin Guangyao still acted like Lan Xichen was in the wrong for not paying Jin Guangyao’s En even more than he already had.

Then finally, look at these Enyuan and consider the way it binds the various characters in both good and bad ways.

So it’s a deeply embedded and very nuanced concept that manifests differently in different characters.

3/ The Quest for Truth 道 Dao:

Dao/Tao 道: the truth, the path, the knowledge, the faith, the ideal, the natural order of the universe, that from which everything comes and that from which everything returns.

What does Dao have to do with Xiao Xingchen?

Well, because Xiao Xingchen is a Daoist. Remember when he reminded A-Quing to address him as Daozhang? That.

He’s not the only Daoist in MDZS, either. The man who created Dao as a philosophy and spirituality, Laozi, is also the man who created the concept of cultivation in the first place. So every single cultivator in MDZS, indeed every single cultivator in xianxia genre, treads in Laozi’s footsteps, takes from his wisdom, and stands on his shoulders in their quest for heavens.

The first sentence in Laozi’s definitive work on Dao, the Tao Te Ching, says:

‘Dao that can be told is not Dao. Truth that can be named is not truth. Path that can be walked is not the right Path.’

The Tao Te Ching is a foundational Chinese Classic. It is the shortest but also the most complex and hard to understand.

This first verse of the Tao Te Ching means: truth is not something that is fixed. Truth is nuanced. Knowledge is not something that can be given to you by words only. You must find this knowledge by yourself. Path is not something that anyone else can tell you. Your path must be walked by your own feet. Faith is not something that can given to you by someone else. You must find faith in yourself.

So then, apply this sentence to Xiao Xingchen’s journey. Do you see it? Xiao Xingchen choosing Jishi is his journey to find and prove his Dao. Jishi is Xiao Xingchen’s Dao.

Yi City is not a tragedy. Yi City is Xiao Xingchen’s tribulation and the unavoidable consequences of choosing to remain pure to the founding precepts of Dao while the rest of the cultivator Houses, including Nie and Lan, have long betrayed their origin.

Even if, by some miracle, Xue Yang and Xiao Xingchen never entangled with each other, there will always be a Xi City or a Zi City for Xiao Xingchen. Because it is a consequence and a price to pay to find the truth that he desires. And he did find that truth. Song Lan, who he had left in a decisive gesture of severing their Karmic Bond, returned and would likely spend decades if not centuries walking Xiao Xingchen’s path, waiting for the day Xiao Xingchen awoke. And A-Qing never left Xiao Xingchen, never gave up on him either.

Ugghh, such a heavy topic. I usually don't like to write too much on such topics because... it's hard to write and it's hard to read, and most people don't really have the patience to read. But it is a question. So I tried. In any case, have this fanart I commissioned from Nguyen Linh.

#ask sythe #mdzs #mo dao zu shi #xiao xingchen #song zichen #song lan

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yutaan · 2 months

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Song Lan mini papercraft! Eventually I'll have made minis of the whole Yi City crew.

#song lan #song zichen #the untamed #mo dao zu shi #papercraft #papercutting #paper art #traditional art #chibis #my art

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rejectedfables · 11 months

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Today I’m thinking about parallels.

I’m thinking about how Wei Wuxian, by doing the right thing (standing up to Wen Chao in defense of Mianmian), upset a powerful member of a powerful sect (Wen Chao of the Wen sect), who retaliated against Wei Wuxian by wiping out the home (Lotus Pier) of the man Wei Wuxian planned to spend his life with (Jiang Cheng). Wei Wuxian, out of guilt and love, had a physical part of himself (his golden core) transplanted into Jiang Cheng without Jiang Cheng’s prior knowledge or consent. Wei Wuxian then disappeared for an extended period of time, while Jiang Cheng desperately searched for him.

I’m thinking about how Xiao Xingchen, by doing the right thing (attempting to bring Xue Yang to justice for the Chang clan, and verbally standing up to injustice in the face of the Jin clan), upset a powerful member of a powerful sect (Jin Guangshan of the Jin sect), who retaliated against Xiao Xingchen by encouraging or allowing Xue Yang to wipe out the home (Baixue Temple) of the man Xiao Xingchen planned to spend his life with (Song Lan). Xiao Xingchen, out of guilt and love, had a physical part of himself (his eyes) transplanted into Song Lan without Song Lan’s prior knowledge or consent. Xiao Xingchen then disappeared for an extended period of time, while Song Lan desperately searched for him.

Later Wei Wuxian spends a couple years living in a remote haunted area (Yiling Burial Mounds) making house with the beaten remains of their previous enemy (the defeated and abused Qishan Wen clan remnants).

Later Xiao Xingchen spends a couple years living in a remote haunted area (Yi City) making house with the beaten remains of their previous enemy (Xue Yang, injured from having narrowly escaped execution).

In the end it’s heavily implied that Wei Wuxian kills himself, and it’s stated that no matter who tried to call on his spirit in the following years, until Mo Xuanyu, he never answered.

Xiao Xingchen certainly killed himself, and no matter how many times or in how many ways his spirit was called upon, he never answered.

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disgracefulthings · 19 days

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Who's story would you want to read, whether it takes place before, during, or after the story of MDZS. I didn't include Lan Zhan since we see most of his story through Wei Ying, and personally I think it would be boring to read the same story that's slightly different due to a change in perspective.

#jiang cheng #jiang wanyin #nie huaisang #lan xichen #lan huan #jin ling #jin rulan #song lan #song zichen #wen ning #wen qionglin #mxtx #mxtx mdzs #mdzs #mo dao zu shi #the grandmaster of demonic cultivation #polls

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tricksterly-conduct · 4 months

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Happy Song Lan Love Week!! Doing "Language" for this one!

#mo dao zu shi #mdzs #song lan #song zichen #the grandmaster of demonic cultivation #grandmaster of demonic arts #SLLoveWeek23

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shuang-hua · 4 months

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‖ DAY 2: PHOBIA/GROWTH ⁘ song lan love week 2023

step by step :)

this has alt text. extended description below the cut.

Song Lan stands beside Xiao Xingchen, reaching out to hold his hand with just their pinky fingers linked together. A blush colours his cheeks and ears, and his expression is a little pinched, or focused. A faint smile is visible on the face of Xiao Xingchen, who does not look directly at him. The lines of their robes and hair are blue and black, and their faces and hands are drawn in red.

Coloured pencil on paper.

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coulsandies · 1 month

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mdzs headcanon of the day #215 !

when songxiao were in college together, their favorite way to pass time and de stress was to go stargazing and listen to old songs together

#mdzs #mo dao zu shi #mdzs headcanons #mxtx mdzs #mxtx #grand master of demonic cultivation #grandmaster of demonic cultivation #grandmaster of demonic arts #founder of demonic cultivation #founder of diabolism #cql #the untamed #song lan #song zichen #xiao xingchen #songxiao my beloved #i’ll never stfu abt songxiao #songxiao

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littlesmartart · 6 months

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DRAWTOBER #19 - Adagio for Crickets and Train Whistle by ChaoticAndrogynous

Brilliant musician Xiao Xingchen is travelling with his old friend from university, Song Lan. They're headed to a rental property for a week of quiet before the next leg of Xiao Xingchen's tour begins. But something is bothering Xiao Xingchen.

a beautiful little modern AU that not only hits my songxiao requirements (exploring Song Lan's mysophobia and XXC's vision impairment!!!) it knocks the whole thing out the park! I've not seen an AU before that explores XXC's past as anything other than him being raised by Cool Hippy Mom Baoshan Sanren, so it's really intriguing to read a fic that allows him a bit more complexity, and Song Lan grappling with his desire for closeness with XXC vs his revulsion with touch is compelling and compassionately written. a sweet and emotionally bittersweet read with a lovely ending.

#songxiao #song lan #song zichen #xiao xingchen #drawtober 2023 #drawtober #the untamed

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candlesoftener · 1 year

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