#Su-Han

[lc-holy]

I wanted to post this comic before the release of season 5 but I didn't have the time.

I just wanted to imagine how Su-han would be if he became a nicer person with Ladybug and Chat noir after the strike back episode.

#miraculous #miraculous ladybug #mlb #ladybug #chat noir #cat noir #su-han #strike back episode #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste

[immaturityofthomasastruc]

You know, a person made the coment about how Gabriel shouldn't have been the main villain for so long, and I agree completely.

But besides Felix and Nathalie, there hasn't been a villain who is also a Miraculous holder, or at least who wishes the miraculouses of Ladybug and Chat Noir for themselves, which is... Strange, because we are talking about a wish to modify reality!

Many people, organizations, and even governments would want a piece of that! Hell, even Chloe would want some of that! Gabriel shouldn't have been the only person who was uncomfortable with his life! (And akumas do not count, because it has been well established that they are Monarch's VICTIMS)

You know what would have been great? More villains interested in the miraculouses when Gabriel was still around, you know why? Because it would not only challenge Marinette and cemented the idea of "Ladybug and Chat Noir against the WORLD", but would have also challenged GABRIEL, because now not only Gabriel would have to get Ladybug and Chat Noir's Miraculouses to get what he wants, now he would also have to get them FIRST.

Which means he would have to be on amert 24/7, becuase if it's not one of his akumas who gets the miraculouses, it would be another villain, WHICH HE CAN'T ALLOW, he would have to change his strategies, negotiate, scheme more, watch out for his own ass because he would also have people wanting to find out who he is, search for info, USE HIS BRAIN, and even serve as an excuse for Ladybug ans Chat Noir to find out who he is, because he would be dealing with so much shit he would get sloppy one day or another and give himself away!

It would have been a change of pace and made the show interesting because it would have challenged everyone, but somehow Thomas decides to take the most boring decisions for the show...

You know who could have been an interesting wild card to add to the show's rogues' gallery? Su-Han.

Think about it. He's the leader of the Order of the Guardians, the people connected to protecting the Miraculous, the show already hinted at the Guardians not being perfect due to how they caused Fu to accidentally destroy their temple, and Su-Han is trained in a martial art designed specifically to fight Miraculous users.

What if, instead of making sporadic appearances where he does nothing but yell at Ladybug, Su-Han starts opposing both Ladybug and Monarch's factions? What if he believes none of the characters should be using Miraculous, so he and the Guardians try to take away everyone's Miraculous?

That way, you'd have a third party threatening both the heroes and villains, a chance to expand on the show's lore, and possibly create situations where Ladybug and Cat Noir have to team up with Monarch.

#immaturity of thomas astruc #iota #miraculous ladybug #miraculous ladybug salt #marinette dupain cheng #ladybug #adrien agreste #cat noir #chat noir #gabriel agreste #hawkmoth #hawk moth #monarch #su-han #master su-han

[theerurishipper]

I will say this: if Su-Han was The Supreme, it'd be so easy to beat him. All you'd need to do is have Adrien and Marinette go back to our world and get an Alliance ring and he'd be so befuddled by this swanky new modern contraption it that he'd just. Quit. Like, he'd get addicted to cat videos and give up on world domination just like that. Have Gabriel design him a pair of fancy shoes on top of that and he'd just jump away. Cause who needs world domination when you can have drip instead amirite.

#MLB #Miraculous Ladybug #Su Han #Su-Han #My meta #Miraculous World #ML Paris Special #Adrien Agreste #Chat Noir #Claw Noir #Marinette Dupain Cheng #Ladybug #Shadybug #Toxinelle #Griffe Noire

[ladymiraclewings]

Adrien Agreste: But Master Su-Han said- Plagg: To hell with Master Su-Han! Su-Han: I can hear you, Plagg.

#miraculous ladybug #miraculous incorrect quotes #incorrect quotes #source: buffy the vampire slayer #adrien #adrien agreste #plagg #su-han

[miraculousfanworks]

Fanfiction Prompt

Post Monarch defeat, all the Miraculous are recovered (except possibly the Peacock with Felix), the heroes daily grind switches from fighting Akumas to fighting rogue holders who begin to come out of the woodwork. After all, the core of the Guardian order was missing for over 170 years, and many of the Miraculous that weren't in the temple when the disaster happened have gone through multiple hands in the meantime. Su-han serves as a light mentor, compiling a list of the currently missing miraculouses. This is all well and good, until the day the Emperor Penguin Miraculous appears. Su-Han: Oh, oh no... This... This cannot BE! Ladybug: What? What's wrong, we defeated him and recovered the miraculous, what's wrong? Chat Noir: Yeah, what's the problem? Su-Han: You don't understand. There ISN'T an Emperor Penguin Miraculous! Chat Noir: Uh, Yeah there is, I'm holding it! Su-Han: Yes, but there WASN'T one before! The Magus never made one. I, I doubt he even knew about Penguins. Ladybug: So, what, someone made a new miraculous? Su-Han: I can think of no other possiblity. And that is VERY worrying. Because even WE don't know how to make Miraculouses. The Magus never taught any of his disciples the secret...

Prompt by Tiwaz

#miraculous fanworks #miraculous ladybug #ml #miraculous #mlb #writing prompt #prompt #miraculous prompt #ml prompt #adrien agreste #marinette dupain cheng #ladybug #chat noir #cat noir #suhan #su han #su-han #post hawkmoth defeat

[star-dust-n-astral-wind]

Su-Han is a glorified civilian, despite his attempts at critiquing our heroes.

In Season 4 of Miraculous: The Tales Of Ladybug And Chat Noir, we got introduced to Grand Master Su-Han, the "Celestial Guardian of the Mother Box" as he puts it.

This guy is a Big Deal.

Or rather, he should be.

See, the problem is that outside of a few instances, Su-Han largely does nothing but stand on the sidelines and tell our heroes (mostly Marinette) that they suck.

And yet, for all he complains about "you don't know each other's identities" and "you're children" and "you lost all the Miraculous" and so on, he never really tries to help?

His complaints have some merit to them, don't get me wrong, but he staunchly refuses to do anything to assist in improving these things. He tells them their failures, but doesn't do so much as explain how they can be better going forward.

Don't like that the heroes are kids? Either join the fight or get some backup from the Order.

Don't like that they don't know each other's identities? Well, the reason for that is the mind controlling supervillain, so tell them how to shield their minds or whatever first.

Don't like that Ladybug lost all the Miraculous? Then how about you do something to help recover them?!

He teaches Luka Mira Kung-Fu (fuck I hate that name), so maybe that'll come around to something in Season 6.

But by and large, Su-Han's role in the story is "glorified civilian". He rarely contributes anything more than vaguely being an authority figure that disapproves of the way our heroes do things, despite offering no alternatives outside of ultimatums.

So, even when he's largely right about our heroes' shortcomings, why should we care? If he's not going to put in the effort to do more than stand around and glare, why should we give his critiques any value?

#stardust rambles #miraculous ladybug #miraculous tales of ladybug and chat noir #mlb #su-han #either step up or shut up #pointing out problems is easy #but you also have to contribute to the solution

[a-chlolix-blog]

Adrien speaking STRAIGHT UP FACTS!

You absolutely did give it to an amazing person!!

#Miraculous Ladybug #Miraculous Tales of Ladybug and Chat Noir #Alix Kubdel #Bunnyx #Bunnix #Canigirl #Cannix #Marinette Dupain-Cheng #Adrien Agreste #Su-Han #Other Characters #Posts with Pics

[escaping-thoughts-reviews]

Characters that deserved better from the writers part 2, because this show really robbed a lot of them.

From Chloé and Zoé not being allowed to form a bond, grow together and stand up to Audrey, to Zoé’s throw-away and rushed introduction in general.

Luka was introduced as nothing more that the third wheel, dropped, and later turned into yet other mindless shipper of Adrien and Marinette (no hate to the ship btw). He has no personality, and seeing his backstory, it’s really a shame they didn’t develop him further.

And finally to Su-Han, a Master of the miraculous, with over two centuries of training, who instead of becoming Marinette’s new teacher, was insulted and degraded by the writers and made into a pathetic wimp, groveling in front of a holder with less than a year of experience.

#the writers should rethink their careers #don't care if people don't like them #they still deserved better writing #please feel free to add characters #chloe burgeois #zoe lee #luka couffaine #su-han #miraculous ladybug #miraculous the tales of ladybug and chat noir #ml critique #thanks to the people that added character to the first post #escaping thoughts

[flightfoot]

Wait, seriously? Su Han's been teaching Penny and Jagged? Well, at least he's been making himself useful.

#ml spoilers #miraculous ladybug #ml recreation #su-han #penny rolling #jagged stone

[kaalki-cinnamon]

‼️MLB S5 SPOILERS‼️

WAIT A MIRACULOUS MINUTE, WHAT????

#miraculous #miraculous ladybug #mlb spoilers #miraculous spoilers #miraculous lb #juleka couffaine #juleka #Su-Han #su-han miraculous #mlb s5 spoiler #mlb s5 spoilers #miraculous tumblr

[geekgirles]

THIS^^^^

#miraculous ladybug #ml #mlb #ml spoilers #ml leaks #ml season 5 #ml season 5 spoilers #ml s5.02 #multiplication #adrien agreste #chat noir #ladybug #marinette dupain cheng #su-han #ml meme

[immaturityofthomasastruc]

Suhan was done dirty. They can’t differentiate between character flaws and Order’s flaws and end up mixing the two due to Suhan’s incompetent yet competent portrayal. Some flaws Suhan has is tied to the order even when they don’t make sense like with the Akuma training thing. They don’t even acknowledge that the situation IS rather dire and that Suhan CAN help bring a sense of mental stability to Mari’s suffering through some training because they don’t wanna admit Fu was flawed in his ways.

The show really wants to let the audience know that the Order was very flawed, but we never get any indication that they methods were actually wrong since it was Fu breaking the rules that led to their downfall. Even with Su-Han, they make it out like it was just him that was the problem with the Order, given how strict he is about the rules Fu himself never followed.

I don't get what the point of Su-Han is if he doesn't become another mentor for Marinette or an antagonist with his own goals, because he's just so underutilized in this show.

#immaturity of thomas astruc #iota #miraculous ladybug #miraculous ladybug salt #su-han #master su-han

[theerurishipper]

Hi! I hope I'm not repeating already answered question but if you don't mind, I'd like to ask your opinion about Luka, Jagged and Penny now trained under Su Han. Many people said "It make senses because Luka know lb and CN identity" but I don't think it make senses because Jagged and Penny doesn't??

If people think the reason CN can't be in the last battle because he's too emotional and can be akumatized, then wouldn't it make more senses for him to be the one trained by Su Han?

My opinion is that it makes literally no sense and came out of nowhere, and Su-Han is a tragically wasted character. There was literally no foreshadowing or build-up to Luka learning from Su-Han, and even less so for his deadbeat father and the lady who's somehow in love with him. I'll admit I liked the scene where Fang beats up a bunch of people, but it was just so jarring and out of nowhere. It would have made more sense if Luka had, like, any sort of prior interaction with Su-Han outside of just standing there when he and Ladybug were beefing.

And Su-Han is such a wasted character. We could have learnt more about the lore of the Guardians that the show started to explore and then promptly dropped. We could have had him mentor Ladybug and Chat Noir and help them develop more powers or something, but he just ended up being comic relief and a punching bag for Ladybug so that we could see how awesome and amazing she was as Guardian. I'll never get over how Su-Han ended up apologizing to Ladybug for not helping her after she chewed him out for being angry over something he had every right to be angry about. And this is all after she told him she could handle it herself.

And about Su-Han training Adrien, it would have made perfect sense. If Adrien's "flaw" is that he'll get akumatized, why not let the person who has an anti-akumatization technique mentor him? I'll tell you why, it's because the akumatization excuse is just a way to get Adrien out of the picture so that Marinette doesn't have to share the spotlight. And it's also because Adrien doesn't get to have anything that isn't somehow connected to Marinette, and Su-Han is not Marinette's mentor so he can't be Adrien's either. It's just so bad.

Thank you for your ask!

#MLB #Miraculous Ladybug #Marinette Dupain Cheng #Luka Couffaine #Jagged Stone #Penny Rolling #Su-Han #Su Han #Ladybug #ML Salt #Marinette Salt #ML Writing Salt #ML Writers Salt #Meta #My meta #Asks #Like Su-Han is usually wrong about plenty of things #But he was right about this

[ladymiraclewings]

Su-Han: You promised you wouldn’t! Cat Noir: No, you ordered us not to. Ladybug: There’s a distinct difference.

#miraculous ladybug #miraculous incorrect quotes #incorrect quotes #source: bones #su-han #ladybug #cat noir

[iwasbored777]

If we don't get a mid-battle scene in the beginning of Evolution where Su-Han shows up and starts screaming at Ladybug and Bunnyx just straight up yeets him into another timeline and continues the battle as if nothing happened while others stare in shock what's even the point

#Bunnyx be like #We don't have time for this #Get yo useless ass out of here #Now it's my time to shine #That means yeeting old people #miraculous ladybug #alix kubdel #ml bunnyx #ml evolution #ladybug #chat noir #Monarch #Su-Han #Ml su han

[silentmagi]

Guardian Marinette & Su-Han - “I’ve Given You Everything By Giving You Nothing”

When Su-Han tells her she's welcomed, Marinette demands he explain for what. Honestly, she wished he'd kept giving her nothing.

The Stories Untold

If you want to write one of these, please just link me

#fanfic summaries #Miraculous Ladybug #Guardian!Marinette #Marinette Dupain-Cheng #Su-Han #wolflover2426