1. “ Can't help but notice that while neither Gutsu or Chuso were natural dancers, Chuso's 1992 FX feels more... put together and polished than Gutsu's. Not to mention Chuso performed her routine better. IDK if it's because Chuso was using a recycled routine she was more comfortable with than Gustu's newer routine, or if the coaches spent more time working with Chuso or if Chuso was just a more polished gymnast even then, but it's interesting to compare those two. “
2. “ Ya know who was a queen at back-to-back tumbling? Oksana Chusovitina. That’s who. “
Newbie gym fan here.. what's with the txj and tatiana gutsu comparisons? Was tatiana in a similar position?
In the 1992 Olympics, Tatiana Gutsu was one of the strongest gymnasts of the Unified Team (the Soviet team in all but name since USSR was no more). However, since she is Ukrainian, she fell on beam in QF optionals because it's just in her DNA, and put herself out of the AA, placing behind queen of the world Svetlana Boguinskaya, Tatiana Lysenko, and fellow rookie Roza Galieva.
Back then, they couldn't withdraw a gymnast from a final other than because of an injury, but they knew Gutsu was better than Galieva, so they bold faced pretended Galieva had an injury and withdrew her anyway lol. Gutsu had a great day in the AA final and won, which caused a lot of controversy later when Galieva was Not Happy about it. They later allowed countries to withdraw gymnasts from finals for non-injury reasons specifically because of this I think.
TXJ was similarly in the AA final after fucking up beam in QF and someone else being withdrawn (though not a rookie this time) and then had a great day! We love Tangutsu Xijing!
Tatiana Gutsu (b. 1976) is a former artistic gymnast from the Soviet Union. Born in Ukraine in a Romanian family, she is known for her ability to perform some of the most difficult routines in the sport.
Her first international competition was in 1991, when she won team gold and two silver medals individually. She also participated in the 1992 Summer Olympics in Barcelona, where she won another two gold medals, one silver and one bronze.
In the early 1990′s, Tatiana Gutsu was one of a handful of gymnasts competing the full twisting double back dismount off of the balance beam, and she often connected the dismount out of three back handsprings.
This has been sitting in my drafts for about two months, and I didn’t end up posting it because of all the build up for Worlds. Now that Tatiana has publicly told her story as a sex abuse survivor, it seems timely that I should post it, not only to support her, but so that we as fans can appreciate her gymnastics as well. This is probably one of the most difficult, if not the most difficult, beam dismount sequences of all time. Additionally, as heartbreaking as it is to have countless favorite gymnasts of ours come forward as victims of sex abuse, it’s so important for them to share their story, and I fully respect and support them.
The geopolitics that left two of Ukraine’s best gymnasts out of the Olympics...
The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 was very awkward in it’s timing from a sporting point of view. Most spots for the 1992 Olympic Games were gained by USSR teams competing in that year but by the next the country didn’t exist. It was decided to allow the former Soviet Republics (other than the Baltic States that had become independent earlier) to compete as the Unified Team under the Olympic banner for team events with their individual country’s flag and anthems for individual events.
This makes one of the traditional debates about the 1992 Olympics a bit complicated one Tatiana Gutsu fell in her optional beam exercise and Rosa Galieva finished ahead of her. In any year previous there would be no question that a Soviet coach could decide substitute a gymnast with perceived greater medal potential. It had happened in 1985 at the world championships and 1990 at the Goodwill Games. But when the AA was an individual competition was it right that a Russian coach could pull an Uzbek gymnast in favor of a Ukrainian? Mostly this is a debate only American gymnastics fans care about because of it’s implications for the Gutsu vs Miller all around battle.
But it does highlight just how complicated the Unified Team was as an organization. One might say that they simply behaved like it was a USSR team ... but let me show you how they didn’t from the very beginning.
Let’s start with the 1992 European Championships which was the first gymnastics meet where these gymnasts competed under their own flags and which happened before the 1992 Olympic Games. Here are the results from the AA with the non-former Soviet countries removed.
4 of these 5 gymnasts would be on the 6 person 1992 Unified Team. Their names are bolded.
It should be noted that a number of relevant gymnasts couldn’t compete in 1992 Euros because their new countries were in Asia so this excludes Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan athletes who will be relevant to this conversation later.
Now let’s look at the 1992 CIS Championships. The CIS was the temporary successor organization to the USSR for this transition. I have added their country listing at the time.
I have bolded the members of the Unified Team. Gutsu won 3 of the CIS Championships event finals on vault, bars, and beam. Stovbchataya won the event final on floor.
During the USSR period it was entirely possible for the team selectors to creat a team with no Russian gymnasts. They had in 1989 at the World Championships where the team had been made up of 2 Ukrainians, 2 Latvians and 2 Belarussians. But they did not pick the Unified Team blind to country of origin. There had to be a Russian on the team and so they skipped over two Ukrainians who had better results (and a Kazak) in order to put Elena Grudneva on the 1992 Olympic team.
I suspect that if Ukraine had been allowed to compete as it’s own country in 1992 they could have won the gold outright.
Natalia Kalinina was one of the greatest gymnasts never to make an Olympic Team. She was a member of the 1991 USSR World Championship team that had won gold and had beaten Boginskaya in 1990 to take the 1990 Goodwill Games AA. The above video is from that performance. She was a stunning classical floor worker. She continued to compete for Ukraine for a few years after being snubbed from the 1992 selection.
This is Ludmilla Stovbchataya’s 1992 European Championships EF Beam.
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She won the bronze behind Gutsu and Boginskaya.
Stovbchataya would continue to complete for Ukraine as well for a few years past the 1992 Olympics.
Gutsu is taking the case to legal justice and it seems she has proof that Sherbo blackmailed and threatened her all these years to keep her quiet. I hope she at least manages to expose him and get a little bit of a sense of justice somehow. I'm heartbroken and it hurts to even watch her competitions videos.
God, this is simply disgusting! She’s such a role model for being brave enough to speak up about it. I can’t imagine how hard it must’ve been for her to carry that burden for so many years while also having to deal with threats from the attacker. I hope she can get justice and that trash of a human will face the consequences.
I’m devasted about Tatiana Gutsu’s confession, for what happened to her of course but also to learn that Scherbo did this... I admired his gymnastics so much and his achievements but this exposure cancelled everything. His behaviour was disgusting and I would never have though he could have done something like this. Tatiana deserves a ton of support, even more when you realise she kept this secret for so many years
y’all just a friendly reminder that while it’s good everyone is paying attention to and aware of Tatiana Gutsu’s facebook post, please, please tag anything related to sexual assault or rape that you reblog. Esp if you’re reblogging the screenshot of her facebook post, because the words in the post won’t get scanned by tumblr’s blacklist and so people with words like “rape” or “sexual assault” blacklisted will still see it, and many of us can find such a post quite confronting or even triggering.