does it ever blow your mind to think that JDM is only 11 yrs older than Jensen and 16 yrs older than Jared? I always do a double take when I get reminded of that. The age gap isn’t big enough at all for parent and sons, but they all have great chemistry and acting together that it’s feels very believable.
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the fact that we don't see john in any of the episodes showing sam and dean's childhood is so interesting to me. like we'll occasionally see dean talking with him on the phone or a brief shot of him from behind, but we never actually see him interact with them on screen. and maybe i'm reading too much into this but i feel like it makes you rely on sam and dean's impressions of him
it's hard to come to your own conclusions about how he acted in their childhood because you don't get to see it directly, you just have to piece things together from how everyone else talks about him. and this framing is especially interesting in the early seasons because dean hasn't yet realized how badly he mistreated them and he's still in denial about how abusive john was. so there's a disconnect between how sam talks about him and how dean talks about him, which changes over the course of the series. idk i just think having the viewer realize that john wasn't the perfect father they originally thought he was and have that realization match with dean's own arc is so interesting
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"John and Mary, husband and wife, bringing home a brand new life. His name is Sammy! And big brother Dean. The perfect family, so it seems ."
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noticing all these parallels between young John Winchester and Dean is making me reluctantly accept that yes there is some part of John in Dean, especially when immediately reacting to trauma and loss. Dean will always be Mary coded but when i watch young John and Mary in the Winchesters its a bit like watching Dean’s personality split into two, one side represented by John and the other by Mary. Not quite 50/50 more like 30/70.
we saw similar behaviour in s2 when he spiralled after John’s death, and again a little bit in s7 after Bobby’s death and finally in s13 after Cas died. it was that smaller percentage inside him that the Mark of Cain tapped into in s9 and s10.
it’s not who Dean is, but it’s still there buried inside him, and those who want to hurt or manipulate Dean use it against him.
since Dean was only 4 when Mary died, it’s fair to say that Dean inherited all his Mary traits - that he really is his mother’s son - but his John traits? were the majority of them learned? or ironically was it the years of being forced to keep quiet and be the mother to Sam, the good son to John, that caused his feelings to built up until John died. his anger coming out afterwards in outbursts. was that John like anger inherited? or was it the years of abuse and forced silence and obedience?
either way, Dean fought with that side of himself for years and eventually won, the tragedy of John Winchester is that he lost, and his children paid for it.
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anything young dean draws wisdom from is what he’s received from john. it’s so personal, every life lesson learned came from his father. most of what he’s learned comes from watching john (especially his emotion socialization), without being aware that most of what sam has learned came from watching dean 🥺
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