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The Most Character Ever Tournament - Round 1 Set 27
In this tournament, we will be searching to find the most character ever! I challenge you to decide on an adjective before you see the characters and stick with it throughout all the polls. I go a bit more into detail in this post.
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Gunpowder Tim from The Mechanisms
Claimed to be the most gender by the person who submitted him
“loves violence. immortal space pirate. homeorotic relationship with his best friend. blew up the moon. chaotic”
Ursula Zandt/Silhuette from Watchmen/ Minutemen comics
Claimed to be the most underrated by the person who submitted her
“Silhuette is a 'costumed adventurer' (which is basically Watchmen code for vigilante) and despite the fact that she barely appears on any panels (which is a CRIME) I'm here to convince you that she's the best comic book superhero ever. She was born in 1917 in Austria, and she's both jewish AND a lesbian, which as you're all probably aware was not a very fortunate combination of attributes during those times. Anyways, she got catcalled at 15 years old by a cop so she punched him, which, iconic. Then in '35 she and her parents fled to America where she took up this very cool new hobby called ""hunting down child sex trafficers"". Mind you, she did this with no superpowers, and she was so good at it the Minutemen (which is like this really famous crime fighting team in this universe) asked her to join. Unfortunately her career was cut short by the fact that some petty criminal murdered both her and her lover in their sleep in literally one of the most brutal ways I've ever seen on comic panels. (And I'm still not over it). Also PLEASE look up her black and white trenchcoat outfit, not only is she a crime-fighting, cop-punching, sex-trafficer-murdering jewish lesbian, she's also the saviour of hundreds of children AND a fashion icon.”
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inkorrect-watchmen · 1 year
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laurie: aunt ursula, can we go to a haunted house this year?
ursula: what's wrong with the one you live in?
laurie: … what?
ursula: good night, laurel jane.
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jewishcissiekj · 1 year
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DC Comics JewShowdown round 1B part 7
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So many sapphic Jewish characters and not enough gay Jewish guys smh
Anyway I've read one comic with Ives but he should be gay and date Tim sometimes
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artemisia-nova · 2 years
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Ursula Zandt my beloved
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ufonaut · 2 years
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She was the best of us and we helped destroy her.
Before Watchmen: Minutemen (2012) #4
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deadguydeathmatch · 1 year
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Elimination Round 1: Poll 16
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murderballadeer · 6 months
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mutual 1: got a basket of apples at the grocery store today
mutual 2: do you think they ever... [picture of joan crawford and barbara stanwyck]
mutual 3: i need to quit my job
mutual 4: i'm crying i wish i was his best friend [photo of phil ochs circa 1964]
mutual 5: [joan baez spotify link]
mutual 6: [picture of a sunlit kitchen]
mutual 7: i need to fuck that old man so bad it makes me look stupid [picture of woody guthrie]
mutual 8: need to fuck that old man so bad it makes me look stupid [picture of vincent price]
mutual 9: all those posts about how it's holy or whatever to drive your friends to the airport are so stupid stop trying to make everything sound fake deep
mutual 10: driving your friends to the airport is holy
mutual 11: he's like a grandpa to me [picture of leonard cohen circa 2010)
mutual 12: i want him so bad [picture of leonard cohen circa 1969]
mutual 13: [salman toor painting]
mutual 14: [ursula k. leguin quote]
mutual 15: i think i'll spend $300 on a banjo today
mutual 16: [townes van zandt spotify link]
mutual 17: men should be crying and covered in blood
mutual 18: every time a girl shaves her bush an angel dies
mutual 19: i need to trap him in a maze like a lab rat [picture of bob dylan]
mutual 20: he's not a character from a 19th century russian novel he's my best friend
mutual 21: he's like a lesbian to me [picture of bruce springsteen wearing denim on denim]
mutual 22: [entirety of the lyrics to so long marianne by leonard cohen]. if you even care
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cooketimm · 1 year
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Silhouette (Ursula Zandt) from Before Watchmen: Minutemen
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lunarsilkscreen · 6 months
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The Comedian and Silk Spectre (Watchmen)
I have to preface this by saying: "I don't support beating spouses or women as a means for dating" and I *DEFINITELY* don't support rape.
I'm talking about an imperfect relationship between two people in a fictional world who are both suffering from gender stereotyping, PTSD, and being gritty superheros post vietnam war horrors.
It was the particular scene where the comedian attempts to rape the Silk Spectre, that I learned something, this was Eddies f* up way of flirting. And, because of where it took place, he knew he would be caught, and that was part of the game he was playing. (As a comedian, the joke maybe.)
The comic book might have different connotations. But in this movie, after the attempted rape, Sally eventually does what every person suffering Stockholm syndrome does; f* her abuser, and has his child. It's emphasized that the second encounter was not rape, and her own decision to keep her child, whom she loves.
Because she understands the nature of the relationship with the comedian, they don't acknowledge any kind of deeper connection that they *might* have.
I have to state again: I don't condone that kind of relationship, and both the movie and the comics reinforce the idea that the relationship is not healthy, and certainly not any kind of goal. And, maybe it shouldn't even been depicted.
In the comic; Her agent even persuades her not to press charges against the Comedian for fear of damaging the group's image. Which ensures that EVERYBODY in this situation believes it was a legitimate rape. And since it was the 70s, can't be damaging the superhero groups image, even though they (the group) want nothing more to press charges.
And because they don't, they treat comedian as a complete outcast, going as far as to exile him from their group, and completely severe ties with him.
It's this isolation that causes him to commit harikiri.
But even after that, the comedian's death affects Sally deeply.
Now why do I think that rape wasn't Comedian's intent. (Still not saying it's right).
Even today gender roles are ingrained behavior in a lot of people. Men are men women are women. And because women are women, it's women who are exploited and mostly saved.
Silk Spectre spent a lot of time saving and protecting women, but never got to experience being saved herself.
This is actually the entire premise of Watchmen as a series and a movie. "Who watches the watchmen?" There's a line constantly being talked about: Who protects the watchmen?
When Silhouette (Ursula Zandt) was found out to be a lesbian, she was expelled from the group too. Same punishment as Comedian. In the comics, it's explained that it was to protect the gay men's reputation in the group.
Later Ursula and her Lover Gretchen are killed in their apartment, and the minutemen aren't there to protect *them*. Nobody even cares about that part, but they did protect their group from raping each other!
These themes are constantly following the watchmen around, when one of them becomes a literal god that can and considered just wrecking humanity, and another the smartest of all paints that "God" as ready and willing to stop humanity from sinning. And the only one to reveal the truth was Rorschach.
Rorschach himself is personally tortured for a multitude of things, one is because he kills a person without evidence that he kidnapped and killed a child. (Depicted in the movie in such a way that makes the audience as mad as he is.)
I'm not saying he was wrong, I AM saying, he didn't have all the evidence.
Remember what I said about the sexual themes above? Gender roles, anti-gay rhetoric. Gays against lesbians. Rorschach himself literally wears a woman's dress as the main piece of his costume while covering it up with a trench coat.
All he saw were some bones and some panties.
Albeit, in an incredibly precarious situation.
But he never verified that those bones weren't chicken bones, and he never verified those panties weren't the size the man he killed wore.
That's the playing with those gender tropes I'm talking about. The things we don't think of when it comes to the LGBTQIA.
This gritty realism where the superheros are working with limited information, outside the law, without ever arresting anybody. In one case murdering an entire prison just to get off in an owl spaceship.
Doing the hero thing cuz it's sexy, not because it's the right thing.
Everybody doing exactly the wrong thing, because they have all the powers and nobody to keep them accountable, or safe.
So what about the Comedian?
Sally has spent her life as a sex symbol, it's cannon that she is "a big fan" of her Tijuana bibles. (That depict her in all sorts of sexual ways). The villains she captures give up, just because they don't mind being caught by her. (And it's possible that they even commit crimes in the hopes that she is the hero that stops them!)
She is both the objectified comic book hero that we complain of existing in comic books, the result of the people with high fame that are in those positions in real life, and molded with that female gender stereotype, that every woman gets to be the damsel *except* her. Because she's the "strong one."
And the comedian sees this, and not only *doesn't rape her*. Intentionally gets the shit beat out of him, just so that she can get the experience, one time, of somebody coming to her rescue.
The alternate view point being: he did it in a super hero club house, with everybody there, including Sally's closeted gay boyfriend, making all the noise to get other's attention because he thought they would let him get away with it.
Or you know, everybody was kind of a piece of shit, and f* up from all sorts of trauma.
I didn't write the thing. But it's definitely weird how the whole thing is centered around keeping one man's identity (Hooded Justice) and sexual orientation 100% secret that kinda allowed all sorts of misogyny.
And sacrificial lesbians.
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onscreenkisses · 3 years
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WATCHMEN, dir. Zack Snyder (2009)
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cdyrdz · 2 years
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i hope it's accurate
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Here’s the bracket!
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Wally Darling from Welcome Home vs Count Blumiere from Super Paper Mario
Barbie from Barbie vs Kaito from Vocaloid/Piapro/Project Sekai/Everywhere
Perseus “Percy” Jackson from PJO/Riordianverse vs Martin Blackwood from the Magnus Archives
John Constantine from DC/Vertigo Comics vs Benrey from Half Life VR but the AI is Self Aware
Zakk from Deathgasm vs Mike Wheeler from Stranger Things
Makoto Misuki from Tsuki ga Michibiku Isrkai Douchuu vs Lazuli from awe-24 on Tumblr
Shinoa Hiiragi from Owari no Seraph vs Adrien Agreste aka Chat Noir from Miraculous Ladybug
Tamari from the song Reckless Battery Burns by Ghost and Pals vs SpottedLeaf from Warrior Cats
Vash the Stampede from Trigun vs Gabbro Outer Wilds
Anya Forger from Spy x Family vs Hatsune Miku from VOCALOID/Piapro Studio/Other things
Yukito Tsukishiro from Card Captor Sakura vs Ryuu Natsume from Paradox Live
CD from charliethehedgesheep on Tumblr vs David Brittlesbee from Mythic Quest (Raven’s Banquet)
Stan Marsh from South Park vs Nicholas D. Wolfwood from Trigun
Finn Mertens from Adventure Time vs Ben Hope from Heartstopper
Five Pebbles from Rain World vs Ash Ketchum from Pokémon
Rezhi Zether from rizardofether on Tumblr vs Perfuma from She-Ra and the Princesses of Power
goodtimeswithscar from Hermitcraft vs Light Yagami from Death Note
Marcy Wu from Amphibia vs GLaDOS from Portal
Shin Tsukimi from Your Turn to Die vs Lou Jitsu/Hamato Yoshi from RotTMNT
Spamton G. Spamton from Deltarune vs Darius Deamonne from The Owl House
Qifrey from Witch Hat Atelier vs Gregor from Star Wars
Jiang Cheng from The Untamed vs Akira Midousuji from Yowamushi Pedal
Matt Murdock from Daredevil vs Stardust Cookie from Cookie Run
Carlos the Scientist from WTNV vs Lucifer Kane from Kane and Fes
Mercutio from Romeo and Juliet vs Laios Touden from Dungeon Meshi
Dennis Reynolds from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia vs Harry Du Bois from Disco Elysium
Gunpowder Tim from The Mechanisms vs Ursula Zandt/Silhuette from Watchmen/Minutemen Comics
Garvan from madicham on Tumblr vs That one character from that one thing from That one thing
Wartortle from Pokemon vs Dot Barett from Mashle: Magic and Muscles
Jasper Shion from Danganronpa 52: Despair From The Heart (creator: mewmewchann) vs Taako Adventurezone from The Adventure Zone
Cid Kagenou from The Eminence in Shadow vs Zacharie from OFF
Pinkie Pie from MLP: FIM vs Jonathan Sims from The Magnus Archives
Stanford Pines from Gravity Falls vs Starflight from Wings of Fire
Alex Fierro from Magnus Chase vs Vriska Serket from Homestuck
Taylor Hebert | Skitter | Weaver | Khepri from Parahumans vs Saiki Kusuo from TDLoSK
Luigi Largo from Repo! The Genetic Opera vs Primordus from Guild Wars 2
Dipsy from Teletubbies vs Jean Valjean from Les Miserables
Mash Burnedead from Mashle: Magic and Muscles vs Trans Wizard Harriet Porber from Trans Wizard Harriet Porber and the Bad Boy Parasaurolophus: An Adult Romance Novel
Tsukasa Tenma from Project SEKAI vs Victoria Annabel Spring from Solitaire/Osemanverse
Larry Butz from Ace Attorney vs Miette from Miette
Danny Fenton from Danny Fenton vs Agnry Faic/Angry Faic/Angry Face from The ng Rating System
Kageyama “Mob” Shigeo from Mob Psycho 100 vs Raine Whispers from The Owl House
Chuuya Nakahara from Bungo Stray Dogs vs Captain Sisko from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Charlie Kelly from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia vs Nico the Catboy (Adventure Time OC) from a Tumblr user (if you know who made Nico, please tell me)
Kaguya Shinomiya from Kaguya-Sama: Love is War vs Harold Stokes (Kazuki Hirasawa) from My Death Flags Show No Sign of Ending
Razputin Aquato from Psychonauts vs Mia "Maps" Mizoguchi from DC Comics/Gotham Academy
Ronald ‘Mac’ MacDonald from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia vs Ayin from Lobotomy Corporation
Cassandra Cain from DC Comics vs Noa Karada from Broken Minds
Phoenix Wright from Ace Attorney vs Dazai Osamu from Bungo Stray Dogs
Kirby from Kirby vs Jurgen Leitner from The Magnus Archives
Jaylen Hotdogfingers from Blaseball vs Sally from The Nightmare Before Christmas
Erika Furudo from Umineko no Naku Koro Ni vs Will Graham from Hannibal
Mole from Happy Tree Friends vs Akane Kurashiki from Zero Escape
Lightbulb from Inanimate Insanity vs Mafuyu Asahina from Project SEKAI
Eridan Ampora from Homestuck vs Spec from The Clowns SMP - hewwosimulator
Kim Kisturagi from Disco Elsyium vs Shunsaku Ban from Tezuka Star Systen
Dream of the Endless from The Sandman vs Katsura (Zura) Kotarou from Gintama
Palmon from Digimon Adventure vs Pico from Pico’s School
Gyro Gearloose from Ducktales (2017) vs Gary the Gadget Guy from Club Penguin
Luz Noceda from The Owl House vs Mizuki Akiyama from Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage
Alpha from Final Fantasy XIV vs Spock from Star Trek
Methos from Highlander vs Hibari Kyoya from Katekyo Hitman Reborn
Louise Belcher from Bob’s Burgers vs Kani Maki from Sushi Pack
Barry the Chopper from Fullmetal Alchemist vs Kanatsune Ame from Entropic Float
For those who don’t know: In this tournament, I challenge you to decide on an adjective and stick with it throughout while determining the most character ever.
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inkorrect-watchmen · 2 years
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sally: dressed in all black? whose funeral is it?
ursula, surveying the other minutemen: i haven't decided yet.
sally: *slowly backs away*
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jewishcissiekj · 1 year
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DC Comics JewShowdown round 2B part 4
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Fuck this if Bombshells! Zatanna wins this round I'm kicking her out anyway /hj In all seriousness tho guys, Bombshells was fun and all (all being problematic) but give it to the main universe/their main universe Jewish characters for this one
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artemisia-nova · 2 years
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noir
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ufonaut · 2 years
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You know, ladies, I’m sensing the wonderful tension here.
Before Watchmen: Minutemen (2012) #3
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