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#Victoria Rivera
dragoneyes618 · 4 months
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Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if a Rivera besides Imelda had died first.
I think it can be presumed that Imelda died first and was very not pleased to see Héctor, so after being rejected by her a few times he gave up and focused all his efforts on getting over the bridge to see Coco. (The miscommunication here gives me a headache every time I think of it.) This was all probably before the other Riveras died, since they show no sign of recognizing him when they see him make a run for it. (The twins would know who he is, but that’s a different story.)
But what if Imelda hadn’t died first? What If someone else had?
Suppose it was, say, Victoria.
We don’t know anything about how Victoria died; all we know is that it was not of old age like her mother and grandmother; she must have died decades before Coco did, given how much younger than Elena she looks.
So suppose, whatever she died of, she died a few years earlier, even before Imelda, and was the first Rivera to enter the Land of the Dead except Héctor. She’s at the Department of Family Reunions, and they ask her for the names of her family so they can reunite her with anyone who’s dead, and so that they’ll have her on file to greet her living family whenever they arrive.
As far as Victoria knows, she doesn’t have any dead family members (unless there’s people from Julio’s side of the family), but she lists everyone she’s related to anyway, because of course she wants to be able to meet her mother and father and sister when they arrive, so they won’t arrive alone, not like she is. And they take all the names she’s written down and see if any of those names, or her own name, have appeared on any other list.
And lo and behold, someone notices that Victoria listed Socorro “Coco” Rivera as her mother and Imelda Rivera as her grandmother, and that Héctor Rivera who tries to jump the bridge every year listed Imelda as his wife and Coco as his daughter. So they send some people over to find Héctor wherever he is (since Imelda and the twins are still alive, and Coco’s still healthy, he’s probably not forgotten enough to be in Shantytown yet, even though he’s never had an ofrenda) and tell him that his recently deceased granddaughter is waiting to meet him.
Héctor is, well, shocked. He’s excited to find out that he has a granddaughter, he’s grieving to have that granddaughter join him before her time, and he’s shocked to have a granddaughter in the first place.
Logically, Héctor knows that it makes sense that he has a granddaughter. But he still pictures Coco as three or four years old, and he hasn’t seen her since. It’s one thing to know, in theory, “Oh yeah Coco’s probably married with kids by now,” and quite another thing to meet one of his daughter’s daughters. Especially when that granddaughter is older than he is. Especially when that granddaughter is older than he remembers his daughter being.
Victoria doesn’t have a very good opinion of her grandfather, of course. All she knows about him is that he’s the man who left his family behind for some stupid musical fantasy, breaking his wife’s and daughter’s hearts.
But she didn’t know he was dead. Her grandmother is still alive and well; why should her grandfather be any different?
And if he had died, well…he’d never bothered to contact any of them in life, but shouldn’t someone have contacted his family upon his death? Or, if he’d never deigned to even speak of them, well…if he was a famous musician, shouldn’t his death have been announced in newspapers and on the radio? Victoria was barely more than a toddler when the famous Ernesto de la Cruz died, but she remembered people talking about it in the shoe shop, before her grandmother had snapped at them to buy a pair of shoes or leave.
And he’s so young. It’s not immediately obvious at first, but as she sees him move around, movements at once awkward and excited, she realizes it. He has a full head of dark hair; his movements are spry and agile, and his voice is the strong voice of a young singing man.
“So you’re my…my granddaughter?” Héctor asks, stumbling over the words.
“Apparently,” Victoria says, folding her arms and glaring at him.
Surprisingly, he laughs. “Ay, you look just like mi vida when you do that!”
She blinks.
“Imelda,” he explains. “She used to give me just that look - never mind. Tell me, how is she? How is Coco? Are they all right?”
“They’re…fine,” Victoria says slowly, disconcerted by the intensity of his questioning.
“I was so worried,” he says. “I never got to see them, you know, they never put my photo up. I was worried that something happened to them, but they never came here, so I knew they must be all right…Do you know if something happened to my photo? We took one as a family when Coco was a baby, you know, and we took extra good care of it. I remember the boys were upset because we didn’t let them be in it.”
“The who?” Victoria asks. However she imagined her grandfather, she definitely didn’t imagine this man who asks earnestly about the welfare of his family, saying his worries and fond memories in one breath.
“The twins,” he explains. “Oscar and Felipe, your…wow, I guess they’re your great-uncles now. Wow. I can’t believe it. It’s been so long…”
His face falls.
“So Coco’s your mother?” he asks. “I can’t believe that too. Do you have any siblings? Wait, who did she marry? Who’s your father?” Without giving Victoria a chance to answer he rushes and rambles on. “I want you to tell me everything, please. About you, and your family, and how Imelda is - she’s nearly seventy by now, isn’t she? - and about your father and mother. I can’t believe Coco’s married. I wish I could’ve been there. I used to dream about what her wedding would be like. I still do sometimes. I never got to see her all grown up and beautiful - I know she has to be beautiful if she looks even a drop like Imelda - being courted by some young man - I know Imelda would never have let anyone but the best even consider marrying Coco - ay, I wish I could have been there. I died when Coco was only four, I never got to see any of this.”
“You what,” Victoria says.
No, I haven’t spent all day thinking of this. I’ve spent all of last week thinking of this.
I also have a scenario in mind with the twins but I’m not typing it now because this is quite long enough.
…I have a new fic idea now.
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pencopanko · 7 months
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If you’re still looking for drawing suggestions, how about something with Héctor bonding with Victoria? I feel like there’s not enough of that going around which is a shame considering how much of a doting Abuelito I’m sure he is.
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This is so long overdue, dear Nonnie, but here you go! Some bonding time between Héctor and his darling nieta, Victoria featuring other members of the Rivera family!
I highly recommend listening to Benny Andersson's piano rendition of "Thank You For The Music", as it's definitely one of the songs they would both learn on the piano.
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hectic-hector · 1 year
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For @moon-calvary and her crossover crackship, Julieta Madrigal from Encanto and Victoria Rivera from Coco.
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mirrorofliterature · 3 months
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I have another coco canon divergence idea that I've been mulling on recently
it's victoria being pulled into a mystery, but this time whilst she's alive.
so essentially the plot is:
- Victoria wants to upskill her designing skills for shoemaking as her abuela is now in her mid-60s and should be retiring, but won't. Also, fashion has evolved since the 1920s.
- So she (in her early-mid 20s) decides to upskill by going to a technical school in Mexico City for shoemaking/design, that kind of thing. I want to research this to make it accurate, if I was to go full blown on this.
- Anyway. It's a year course and her family by now has the money necessary to send her (again, need to check the realities of this kind of technical training in 1960s Mexico) and she has an apartment in Mexico City.
- This technical school happens to also offer music courses.
- She shares her apartment with fellow students, one who happens to be a music student
- Unlike Elena, who absolutely virulently loathes music, Victoria has always struck me as someone who is, at best, apathetic towards music, so she's fine with musicians, she just doesn't listen to music out of respect to her abuela and mama.
- So she's fine with the music student
- Also there's a lesbian subplot because yes. With who? Idk.
- ANYWAY so this music student has this side hobby via Ernesto de la Cruz and is trying to get information on his early career and is trying to figure out who his early touring partner was.
- Which is her new roommate's dead abuelo, but they both have no idea.
- Anyway, Victoria is like: 'oh, my name is Victoria Rivera [Julio's last name] and I'm from Santa Cecilia'
- the MS (music student): 'oh cool anyone in your family know ernesto de la cruz?'
- victoria: 'no my abuela hates music and ernesto.'
- MS: 'hm. anyway did you say your maternal last name was rivera because crazy thing, there's this obscure travelling partner ernesto had known only as 'h rivera'. heard of him'?
- victoria, curiosity piqued: 'sure I'll ask'
- Victoria asks her tios about this not her abuela or mama she's not cruel. Her tios reluctantly admit that yes, her abuela's husband did travel with and disappear on a tour with ernesto de la Cruz in 1921 and yes, they were childhood best friends
- music student, upon learning this: interesting
anyway it then divulges into this mystery where they puzzle out that héctor was the real musician (writer) this whole time and that he kind of died in late 1921 and isn't it like. highly suspicious that ernesto went on to use héctor's songs as his own + without telling his family that he was, y'know, dead???
victoria has an identity crisis and kisses a pretty lady.
Imelda and coco are eventually told and coco is like. fuck me that's tragic but it makes a shitload more sense then héctor just ditching us and an embittered imelda is like. yeah. wish ernesto was still around so I could murder him but I'll settle for suing his estate for plagiarism :).
when imelda dies, she's already had héctor's picture up for a few years (because #regret and #love of my life) but doesn't expect anything from it because y'know héctor has been dead decades and probably moved on by now and it's all her fault for assuming the worst.
and it's not like sunshine and rainbows when héctor and imelda reunite but it's a whole lot better than canon and héctor is like: it was very strange 1) having people recognise that I wrote ernesto's songs and 2) learning that he murdered me thanks to the granddaughter I didn't know I had??? also I love you but like. very hurt that you thought the worst of me for so long.
and imelda is like: that's fair and they heal and shit.
and maybe thanks to imelda's lawsuit money, victoria gets proper treatment for her cancer and lives a long gay life.
okay. that was a lot more words than expected. sleeping now.
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zafirosreverie · 1 year
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When you're at work, and you're bored and don't have a laptop, and your first wife comes and scolds you for not paying attention to her in five years, this Is what happens.
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razoogm · 5 months
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Rivera family ages (my HC)
Imelda: 78(when she died)
Héctor: 21(when he died)
Oscar and Felipe: 57 (when they died)
Julio: 85 (when he died)
Coco: 100 (when she died)
Rosita: 70 (when she died)
Victoria 60(when she died)
Franco: 72/73
Elena: 70/71
Berto: 46/47
Carmen: 45/46
Enrique: 39/40
Gloria: 37/38
Luisa: 35/36
Abel: 19/20
Rosa: 14/15
Miguel: 12/
Benny and Manny:4/5
Socorro: 10 months/1
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ddalameda · 2 years
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Two grandfathers with younger generations. Elena is 2 years old, Antonio is 4, Victoria is 6.
In my headcannons, Bruno has a tummy in a healthy old age and becomes very soft and cozy. Hector remains a wiry stick, but gray hair overtakes him early (God, I swear Bruno is laughing at Hector's receding hairline) Fortunately, Hector does not pass this gene on to future generations, Imelda solved this problem :D
Someday I will make adequate backgrounds, but for now I accept what I have.
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t4rtarus · 11 months
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leah zephir and tori!
@racoonfamilyau
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tori belongs to me
zephir belongs to @doodle-png
leah is co-owned by both of us!
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myhusbandwouldplay · 5 months
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What’s your headcanon about all the dead Rivera ages?
Thanks for the ask! Here's what I think:
We all know that Hector died at the young age of 21. 💔
I headcanon Victoria as the first one to die of the main group. I want to believe she was around her early 40s.
About 10 years later, Imelda died when she was in her mid to late 70s.
Oscar & Felipe were next, and both died two or three years after her. They were 65-66.
Rosita was next to die four years later at 50.
I headcanon that Coco's memories go back and forth to when she was little and when Julio was last alive. Ten years ago in 2007. (Note that the movie came out in 2017) Coco is 99 in the movie. 100 when she died. So, Julio was 89. I headcanon they were the same age when they met.
I hope this wasn't too confusing! 💫
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nadi1a · 2 years
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Shipsss
Hey guys. So I just wanted to share my top animated ships so let's go!
Tigress and Po (Tipo) from Kung Fu Panda
Lady Anne and Finn Oxford (Fanne) from Barbie Rock'n Royals
Miles and Gwen (Gwiles) from Into and Across the Spider Verse
Ernesto and Victoria (Vicesto) from Coco
Buzz and Terri (Berri) from Dino Squad
Let me know which ones you like. I also want to start posting headcanons.
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ilovecocomovie · 2 years
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Hola :)  So today it´s something different....not photomontage but my drawing. I uploaded on my account some time ago something like that (Imelda and Hector as skeletons for example.) .... So I´m uploading both- my sketch and colored version, because sometimes I like the uncolored and sometimes colored version more :)  I drew it on paper, then I scanned it into my computer and then colored-in in a free photoshop I´m normally using. And what we can see in this picture? It´ s Mama Imelda, with her adult daughter Coco and Coco´s daughters Victoria and Elena. Have a nice day :)
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dragoneyes618 · 5 months
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What other kids do when they feel rebellious: Hang out in places and/or with friends their parents don't approve of, get their hair wildly cut and/or dyed, try smoking, etc. etc. etc.
What the Rivera kids do when they feel rebellious: Whistle on the way to school.
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pencopanko · 7 months
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☠∇ Elena and Victoria
Oh god, this has been sitting in my inbox for more than five years I am so sorry Nonnie aaaaaa
Anyways, this was for this ask meme, I believe!
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☠ Angry Headcanons for Elena and Victoria:
We all know of Elena's temper by now. She can get physical and definitely has had violent outbursts, albeit rare. I like to think that she has slowly mellowed out ever since the infamous Día de los Muertos of 2017. She still throws her chanclas to noisy drunkards who would sing loudly at night, however.
Unlike her sister's loud anger, Victoria is the silent but deadly type. She gets annoyed easily, and her default resting face has always been considered scary. Not to mention she only needs one glare to put anyone else in their place. Victoria definitely had inherited her grandfather's silver tongue and sass which she would use to add snarky remarks at unruly customers, much to Imelda's dismay. She also inherited both her parents' strong legs and stomp power, as some men had been unfortunate enough to have experienced the latter firsthand. Serves them right.
∇ Childhood Headcanons for Elena and Victoria:
Elena and Victoria have always been extremely different, and this could easily be seen from how they would interact with their peers when they were children. Elena was, is, and always has been extroverted and emotional, while her elder sister Victoria was the total opposite. Their difference in school grades was obvious too, with Victoria excelling in nearly every subject especially ones related to literature, while Elena was more of an average student.
The same can be said for their stances on music. While Elena had always been strict on the "no music" rule from the day she could differentiate between the sound of hammering from the sound of drums from afar, Victoria was.... slightly more lenient on herself (and others as she grew older, but this was a well-kept secret that she brought to her grave and only revealed once Héctor officially returned).
Only slightly. She never dared to tell anyone that she and Tía Rosita once stayed a little longer at a client's house listening to a recording of Vicente Fernández' "Hermoso cariño". She has always been extremely close with her tía, and this was one of their many little secrets. She loves her parents, but Tía Rosita was and still is the one she would go to first for advice or just for venting in general.
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lapseinrecs · 10 days
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Re-animated (No Zombies!) - a returned au.
By emletish
On Archive of Our Own (account required)
Status: Complete; 83,331 words
Summary: Re-animated, that was the word the newspapers chose to use. It sounded less creepy. Undead gave off the wrong impression, after all. It made people think of zombies and all those terrible movies Abel liked. No Zombies!
My thoughts: The author is so good at putting so much personality into the narration! It’s really nice.
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mirrorofliterature · 7 months
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victoria: *worrying about imelda judging her for stealing from ernesto de la cruz*
imelda in reality: fuck him up, he's a dickhead. I'll come!
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zafirosreverie · 1 year
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Holly fuck :0 that anon was right, I do have a type
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