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absolutebl · 1 year

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BL Streaming - Which Service is Worth Your Money?

I’m bored and I have a little extra time this morning so it’s time for ABL to play with the spreadsheet of doom.

Occasionally I get the question:

If I were to subscribe to only one platform for BL which should I pick?

This post is dated May 2023.

First things first. I am going to be (somewhat) objective about this and not judge on quality of content. Because if KinnPorsche is all you love in life, obvs you need iQIYI, but if you are a HIStory franchise stan, than it’s all about Viki. Those are your life choices, I’m just here to play numbers games, okay?

Secondly, some shows air on multiple platforms, particularly Viki & Gaga, but sometimes it’s Gaga & YouTube, occasionally it’s even iQIYI + others. This has only started happening in the last few years. Bed Friend was on 3 different platforms (GaGa, iQIYI, YT) - even though it was originally announced for Viki! I honestly don’t know how to track this, so I tend to log the spreadsheet with my preferred watching platform for that language, this will throw the numbers off for those platforms.

Since I join everything my platform preference choice is based on:

the quality of the subs/captions

the quality of the user experience

My subs experience tends to be:

YT = best for Thai

Viki = best for Korean and sometimes Japanese, okay for Thai

Gaga = best for Chinese and sometimes Japanese but very weak Thai subs

My user interface preference is:

YT, Viki, Gaga in that order then everyone else with iQIYI at the bottom. This is because I watch on mobile devices.

ASplay, WeTV, former Line, Amarin TV, Netflix and the other smaller suppliers (and apps) will all be grouped together for this assessment. Since they have so few offerings, by default I would not recommend subbing those platforms unless you are a hard stan of all BL with disposable income.

Super bad BLs that I watched back in the day on grey sites or YT (pre 2020 crack down) because there were no other options and I am a completest are still listed as grey. I would never suggest anyone watch these shows anyway, so I don’t care if they have now shown up on legitimate sites. If they are somewhere, it’s likely Gaga. Which means Gaga’s percentage of the market share is probably UNDER reported by my numbers.

Movies and cinema-only releases that never got international distribution fall into the “grey” category. If I got it off an indie subber, since that too is technically illegal, it falls into the grey category as well.

Final note: This is from a USA based IP, I don’t use a VPN, so platforms assessments are from that perspective.

Spring 2023, current state of the spreadsheet. AKA

Our BL Data Set

Total # of BLs = 564

# of BLs ongoing (so finished runtime is best guess) = 18

Just Answer the Damn Question

Round Number of Actual BLs - % of market share

YouTube = 218 - 38.6%

Gaga = 148 - 26.2%

Viki = 77 - 13.7%

Grey = 53 - 9.4%

BLs I’ve never been able to find on any platform (including grey): 36 - 6.4%

iQIYI = 14 - 2.5%

Other platforms = 12 - 2.2%

Margin of error: +- 1% (look I’m just not driven to be that accurate here)

Subscription Platforms Breakdown - % of market share

Eliminating YouTube, Grey, and missing BLs. Viki is included because I do not know which of theirs are behind the paywall and which are not.

Total subscribe-only BLs: 257

Gaga = 59%

Viki = 30%

iQIYI = 6%

Sml sites/apps = 5%

(rounded)

Okay but how about actual runtime?

Gaga = 360 hrs - 44%

Viki = 311 hrs - 38%

iQIYI = 98 hrs - 12%

Sml sites = 50 hrs - 6%

Anyway you cut it... on pure BL standards...

GAGAOOLALA WINS

Other consideration? In most places Gaga is ALSO the cheapest per month option.

Final Thoughts

YouTube (America’s Alphabet)

YT has the most pieces of content and longest overall runtime because of all the Thai stuff. ALSO bootlegs show up there, especially the early Chinese and Japanese stuff. They will often get taken down and you have to hunt for it again. YT takedowns come in waves, every 6 months or so.

However, GMMTV, some Star Hunter, some Studio Wabi Sabi, all the Vietnamese & Pinoy stuff (until now), and a few choice bits of Strongberry are YT content.

YT’s app is the best UX of a poor set (for me), but the web based YT at Premium level doesn’t work with Firefox. I use YT for work A LOT, so the fee for Premium ($13.99) and lack of ads + downloads (travel) is worth it for me, but I think it probubly isn’t if you’re on a budget.

GaGaOOLaLa (Taiwan’s Portico Media)

Of the pay to play platforms, GaGa dominates with the most BLs by all metrics. If you’re intersted in darker BL, GL and other queer content, very high heat, the history of the genre, or Japanese stuff - most of that is on GaGa. Also all of Strongberry and some of the newer queerer series (like My Ride).

At $6.99 a month it’s ALSO one of the cheapest options.

Gaga is based out of Taiwan, the only Asian country with marriage equality (as of 2022) AND it specializes in exclusively queer content so they need our support. If you can afford them, you should support them. GaGa is the only platform that will always have more BL, guaranteed (so long as Taiwan is autonomous). Ironically, you can follow their YT channel for previews and teasers to their latest series, short content, and acquisitions.

Their app isn’t great, but their web-based interface is fine. That said: there’s no categories (way to organize), and the way they roll out new episodes is unintuitive. Their mobile app ALWAYS pauses not mater what you actually want it to do and the lack of the quick skip ahead is frustrating.

Viki (Japan’s Rakutan)

Viki specializes in longer series, mostly Thai, Taiwanese, and a few of the Chinese bromances. It also now has a lot of KBLs. But in general only more recent stuff (2018 is as far back as they go).

At $4.99-$11.99 depending, it’s low to average cost. I’m not sure which one (if any) you actually need for BL. Most of my favorite new shows tend to air on Viki, and I like Rakutan as a parent company, so I don’t mind supporting them.

They happen to have 5 of my top ten BLs, which is A LOT (since I hand out 10/10 so rarely). So for me they host the objective best BL content.

They have the second best app (after YT, it’s kinda a combo of YT + Netflix) but the lack of a speed-up option is frustrating for many. Also the desktop version is super buggy. But they DO have categories you can name and control, which I love.

Other Platforms

iQIYI - is Mainland China based (hello Baidu, you ugly fucker), so the platform getting/pimping BL for an international audience only is… how do I put this?… oh yeah: shitty. I will often rename it Icky, for this reason. It clearly wants to break the market, but… do we want it in the market at all? How long will they host BLs? When will they be shut down and censored? I would say it’s only worth it if you really also like Chinese dramas. And even so, Viki also has A LOT of those. Unfortunately for us, Wabi Sabi seems to have cut a distribution deal with Icky. And, of course, there is the KinnPorsche situation (so ironic that Icky hosts the highest heat). The interface is a nightmare. They have the WORST app, even when you pay, it serves ads, some of which alpha crash the platform.

Netflix - here in the states it almost never has new BL content. Sometimes some old stuff. They tested the waters with SOTUS and Love Sick. I have a feeling they aren’t particularly intersted in this market. So if BL is what you watch, don’t bother. At last check they still had Gameboys and Your Name Engraved Herein and Wish You.

WeTV - acts like LineTV used to, has Manner of Death and We Best Love and a few of the more obscure Thai pulps. But probably not worth it for anyone but a completest.

Grey - Unknown or No Distributor

Indie subbers: there’s some BLs that you can watch by supporting indie subbers who supply private links to their personal versions. This is not legal, but it is a slightly nicer way to get stuff you can’t find anywhere else. I’ve done this for some Thai and Japanese stuff.

I find the leads for these sources here on Tumblr. If someone is giffing and talking about a show and I don’t know how they are getting hold of it, I simply ask.

DramaCool (USA) & Dailymotion (France) & Bilibili (China) and others - AKA the grey space. You SHOULD feel guilty using these sites, you’re stealing, but it’s where many of us go for BL we can’t find anywhere else (in defiance of what few morals we have left). These are BLs that originally sold to very odd platforms or never got international distribution. Unfortunately, some of my favorites are in this category like Great Men Academy or Seven Days. It’s a nightmare. The ads are terrible and the virus/bug risk is high. They get taken down all the time. Or the leads are faked. I use an old computer to access and suggest you take all necessary precautions yourself.

P’ABL SOAP BOX TIME

Look I work tangential to the entertainment industry, so if you thought I wasn’t going to learn you a little on this subject, you got another think coming.

HERE’S THE THING:

You watch a show on one of the grey platforms, ESPECIALLY if it actually has distribution on Gaga or Viki - you better review that shit. You spread the word and advocate for that content here, on MDL, on social media, with fan art, I don’t care. You steal it, you find a way to pay back in your time and/or creativity.

I get it if you’re poor, but don’t be a goddamn scab. Find a way to reward content creators with non-monetary support. If you had the time to watch the thing you stole, you have time to pay it forward in some substantial way. Do this even if you didn’t steal it but got it for free. Do this if you read fanfic. Do this with articles, blogs, books. Do this with podcasts.

It isn’t hard to be a decent human and support creators. Don’t you dare just TAKE. If you’re that kind of person stop reading this blog immediately. I don’t want anything to do with you and you don’t deserve my words or my spreadsheet of Doom.

/rant

MORE ON THIS TOPIC WITH FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS

Original post on this subject that I adapted for this post.

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jenyifer · 2 months

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I am hyped for monster next door looks super cute I love the pink boy grumpy boy and green introvert book looking boy. Also their kiss omg……

Photos for the hype

Am I touch deprived? Maybe? This hugs gave me the right amount of warm fuzzies.

Woah beautiful as someone who’s fallen in love online before meeting them. I feel like this is gonna hit me in the heart.

Pretty pretty boys also? When did Bookie have a kid?

Wow what a kiss 🥹I WANT THE SHOW NOW WHY IS IT A TRAILER IN MY ALGORITHM?!

#monster next door #monster next door the series #thai bl #wetv #Jenny’s watching

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heretherebedork · 3 months

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Sadly, as they are already best friends, that is not his phone number. But oh man this is great I love a pining friendship where one half has never been serious about a relationship in his life and the other half is just down BAD for him for some reasons. I love it. I am here for it, absolutely.

But they're still friends who tease and mock! It's great.

Mostly here for Top biting his lip.

These two are gonna do things to me and for me, I can tell. Top obviously knows he's in love but Grey is out here being a womanizer and in a completely different place and space and I love it.

#intern in my heart #greytop #topgrey #greattop #topgreat #thai drama #thai series #wetv #i am so happy with this as a side couple

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save-the-data · 2 years

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Love Mechanics | S01E10: END

Thai Drama - 2022, 10 episodes 65/100 Drama Completed in 2022

EP 1 : 2 : 3 : 4 : 5 : 6 : 7 : 8 : 9 : 10

It’s going to be hard to knock Love Mechanics off the top spot for 2022 BL of the year, but there are still some anticipated series to come. Then again, I am incredibly bias towards YinWar so...

#Love Mechanics #YinWar #Yin Anan Wong #War Wanarat #LGBTQ+#Romance #Youth #Gay Character #Thai BL #BL Drama #Asian Drama #Thai #Web Drama #WeTV #Adapted from a Novel #กลรักรุ่นพี่#Kiss Episode #Final Episode

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lgbtally4ever · 2 months

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Monster Next Door

Looks cute!

WeTV

youtube

#monster next door #bl series #thai bl #Wetv #you tube #thai bl series #thai bl actors #Youtube

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theflagscene · 5 months

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Does anyone have a link for the uncut first episode of Love Senior? It’s supposed to be up on WeTV but it’s not available, I keep getting a page that tells me they it’s temporarily unavailable in my area due to copyright restrictions. I used my VPN to then try it with different IP’s, one from Japan, one from Hong Kong, one from Singapore, but none of them worked either. I unfortunately don’t have an option for anywhere actually in Thailand via my VPN, I was hoping that just having an IP inside of Asia would work but nope. I just really wanna see the first episode without it being all chopped up, trying to squeeze like an hour’s worth of story and character development into less than 30 minutes makes it really… blah? I dunno, it’s rushed and the subs aren’t great and I would just like to see it for what it’s supposed to be, ya know?

#love senior the series #wetv #thai gl

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kdram-chjh · 7 months

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Cdrama: The Longest Promise (2023)

【肖战｜xIaozhan】玉骨遥 The Longest Promise 红色的时影真的很好看Time shadow of red clothes

Watch this video on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cMH6W7F76iA

#The Longest Promise #玉骨遥 #Jade Bone Ballad #Yu Gu Yao #Yuk Gwat Yiu #玉骨遙 #朱颜 #2023 #Tencent Video #WeTV #youtube #cdrama #chinese drama #Xiao Zhan #Shi Ying #behind the scenes #bts #shorts #short video

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absolutebl · 2 years

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October 2022 BL Forthcoming

Oct 3

To Sir With Love

AKA Khun Chai - Thai (Trailer) 10 eps 40 min ea

A Thai HISTORICAL gay romance came outta nowhere (probubly not BL, more cray cray family drama). Does not look like it’s gonna end happy, but I’m still excited.

One31HD, no idea on international, possibly WeTV

Kabe Koji

AKA Kabesaa AKA Kabesaa Doujin Sakka no Neko Yashiki-kun wa Shounin Yokkyuu wo Kojirasete iru* - Japan 10 eps 20 min ea

Gossip here. A manga artist wants nothing more than to see his yaoi on shelves and be recognized by readers. Then one day he meets a childhood friend he once had a crush on who is now an idol. From Minamoto Kazuki's manga Kabe Sa Doujin Sakka no Neko Yashiki-kun wa Shouninyokkyuu wo Kojiraseteiru, stars Matsuoka Koudai (the mangaka - I know him from Five) and Nakao Masaki (the idol - Kakafukaka, Bow Then Kiss - he’s a BIG DEAL ya’ll).

Viki

* JUST PICK A TITLE, JAPAN

Oct 5

Ghost Host, Ghost House

Thai (Trailer) 5 eps 30 min? ea

My ghost bf trope. Kawin (Love Area), a live streamer who hopes to see ghosts once, and Pluem, a young man who fills in his missing feelings. Could be sad.

YouTube for reruns

Oct 8

Big Dragon

Thai (Trailer) 8 ep 40 min ea

Star Hunter’s back and bringing on the chaos as per usual. Based on the y- novel, มังกรกินใหญ่ by Aiden N Vivienne (reputed to be plotless smut), features Mangkorn (Dragon) & Yai (Big) in a high angst blackmail plot plus a secret piece on the side. 2022 is the year BL glorifies cheaters, apparently.

OneTV reruns on Star Hunter’s YT

Oct 9

Remember Me

AKA Remember the series - Thai (Trailer) 8 ep 40 min ea

JaFirst + plus same cast (and production company, Ultimate Troop) as The Yearbook. Also has Title (LBCs+) and Mean (LBC2) in possibly one of BLs worst ever wigs (and that is saying a lot).

Thailand! Put down the wigs and the acoustic guitar. I am losing patience here.

Gaga

Oct 10

2 Moons: The Ambassador

AKA 2 Moons 3 Thai (Trailer) 10 eps 40 min ea

From Motive Village for Amarin TV. I predict a shit show. But it is supposed to finally finish out the plot of 2M2 with added 2 more couples. Because why not?

Who tf cares?

Oct 13

Circumstances of Pungdeok Villa Room 304

AKA Roommates of Poongduck 304 Korea 8 eps 20 ea

From Idol Romance, A happy-go-lucky third-generation chaebol receives an ultimatum from daddy to: 1. Leave the house penniless and survive for 2 years; and 2. Achieve results as team leader in a new business venture. The owner of the villa he lands in ignores and disregards him. However, it turns out they work in the same company. Let the cohabitation office drama commence.

Stars Kim Ji Woong & Yoon Seo Bin of Kissable Lips - Korea’s first example of a co branded repeat pair. Also will feature Singer-actor Holland (Ocean Likes Me) and Actor Kang Woo Jung (Once Again). I liked them all A LOT and am very excited about this show.

Viki (not sure on this air date)

SELF

Thai

A young artist (musician? NO!) mysteriously loses his reflection and sees a strange boy in the mirror instead, PNR and/or horror. Stars fresh faces, directed by Too (Triage) and NutSor (screenwriter of Dew). Could be sad.

Oct 14

My Tooth Your Love

Taiwan (Trailer) 12 eps 30 min ea

From Result Entertainment (producers of We Best Love) a story about a dentist and his patient, also a bar owner and a rebellious young man (who takes the initiative even with a 12 year age gap). Stars Andy Wu (Amensalism), and Alex Chou (composer/musician and the bartender in WBL). Script by Lin Pei who loves VERY traditional yaoi tropes (HIStory1: Obsessed, HIStory2: Right or Wrong, HIStory2: Crossing the Line, HIStory3: Trapped, WBL, & See You After Quarantine?)

Gaga & Viki

Oct 15

Hard Love Mission

Thai (Trailer)

Thai pulp about a journalist sent to interview a celebrity on an island who then ends up his manager.

WeTV & iQiyi?

Wish Me Luck

Thai

About a boss and his temporary employee in an advertising company, based on Bittersweet's y-novel of the same name สุดที่รักษ์. Starring my boy Fiat (Grean Fictions, SOTUS S, My Gear and Your Gown, Triage) who I’ve been waiting to lead a BL for a decade (it feels like) and Na Naphat (KinnPorsche, UWMA).

Oct 20

Eternal Yesterday

AKA Eien no Kino Japan 8 eps 25 ea

Japan takes on ghost boyfriends now? Is no country safe from this damn trope? Taking over Takara-kun and Amagi-kun's time slot in the home country this is a school romance between two boys. After one of them is run over, other friends gradually forget about his existence.

Distribution unknown.

Oct 28

Grand Guignol

movie (Trailer)

Japan’s school horror BL movie グランギニョール starring Rio Komiya (Eternal Yesterday) and Ryosuke Sota (Mr Unlucky) among others.

Oct 29

Till The World Ends

Boys, trapped somewhere, end of world, yadda yadda. Art’s (What the Duck) comeback, so that’s interesting.

Distribution unknown.

Oct ?

Choco Milk Shake

Korea (Teaser) 8 eps 15 ea

Strongberry bringing us a full length romcom that looks bonkers. Childhood pets reincarnated as humans find their former owner and flirt with him, I guess. In Strongberry we trust but this premise is testing me.

Distribution unknown.

My Roommate

Thai (Trailer)

I couldn’t even watch the trailer, the sound and filming was that awful.

YouTube I think.

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clairificusrex · 1 year

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From the same production of #TheEclipseSeries, All This Entertainment announces their upcoming WeTV BL Original “#609BedtimeStory” is coming out soon on WeTV — starring #OhmFluke Ohm Thitiwat and Fluke Natouch. | #609ComingSoon

** Rumored release date: November 26, 2022.

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The book this is based on is actually really good for a change! And if they don't change it much Ohm and Fluke will not be playing same old characters... fingers crossed! @absolutebl @aliceisathome @bengiyo @gillianthecat @heretherebedork @weekendatennuis

#bl drama #thai bl #wetv #maybe coming in November #609 bedtime story #Instagram

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liyazaki · 1 year

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fluke natouch as DEW ; ohm thitiwat as MUM

609 BEDTIME STORY [12.02.2022 - ]

#609 bedtime story #ohmfluke #dewmum #ohm thitiwat #fluke natouch #my babies + golf directing?! give it to ME #wetv #tonanons #mjtag #userjap #asiandramanet #asianlgbtqdramas #mor gifs 609

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bl-bam-beyond · 1 year

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THE PROMISE (2023, THAILAND)

The Series I've been waiting for is here. The premiere was today (March 1, 2023)

A bit different to the two mini series that preceded it I am still hopeful.

The Promise tells the story of two best friends since childhood Phupha aka Phu (KITTIKUN TANSUHAS aka KUN) & Nanfah aka Nan (WATTIKORN PERMSUBHIRUN aka KIAK)

Phu fell madly in love with Nan but couldn't tell him.

Here (not in the mini series) Nan says he knows Phu loves him and he loves him too. Then Nan kisses Phu. But...Nan is drunk.

It looks like the series is taking a deviation from the mini series...but I'm still intrigued...for now

#DEVONTE296 YOUTUBE CHANNEL #WeTV #THAI BL SERIES #MARCH 1 PREMIERE #My GIFS #THE PROMISE #PHUPHA-NANFAH #PHU RETURNS AFTER 10 YEARS STILL IN LOVE WITH NAN #MINI SERIES TO SERIES #A FEW CHANGES

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