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Here is my recap of the All Things Glee (w/ Korey Kuhl and Tyler Oakley) episode of the podcast.

Kevin jokingly called Korey and Tyler stalkers.

Apparently 6pm is the middle of the night for Jenna.

Kevin called Korey and Tyler, evergreen thinks.

Tyler took a nap before recording this episode.

Korey asked Tyler if he felt like a hot dog in a bun because Tyler took a nap with his dogs.

Tyler asked them if a hot dog is a sandwich. There is actually a podcast called that and they answer that question.

Jenna said it’s not a sandwich and Tyler said it is a sandwich.

Kevin just watched a tiktok from a Harvard debate about affirmative action so he is in a debating mood.

Tyler said their For You pages couldn’t be more different.

Korey and Tyler have done over 400 episodes of their podcast.

Korey said recording the podcast is the highlight of his week.

Tyler said the podcast is the perfect reason to be up to date with each other now that they live in different cities.

Tyler and Korey went to Michigan State. They became friends there and talked about Big Brother and Julie Chen.

Korey was already gone when Tyler started watching Glee. Tyler was a sophomore and an RA. He knew he could get people to come watch it. It was a work event for him. He was a good RA and got the job done.

Korey watched it with his boyfriend at the time. He was a big Greek and watched all the episode.

When Korey was an RA he let them watch X3. Tyler remembers candle gate when Korey was an RA. Some kid fell asleep studying and his knock off candle exploded. You aren’t allowed to have real candles in dorms in college. Korey almost got fired because he didn’t call the fire department. He said the room was fine and they didn’t need outside help. He didn’t want to waste resources.

Kevin asked how the Glee nights would work because he didn’t go to college because he was playing a high school student forever. Tyler explained how his dormitory was set up. He said he would go down the halls shouting Glee in his room. He didn’t think a single guy came to the event. It was all girls. He says he thinks they were coming off A Double Shot of Love with Tila Tequila so Tyler’s watch parties were legendary.

Jenna asked Tyler was watching with Darren was on. (Umm..he had/has the biggest crush on Darren)

Jenna didn’t realize Michigan University and Michigan State were different schools. That’s fair though.

They talk about people from Michigan and Texas. Tyler and Korey from Michigan and Kevin is from Texas.

Jenna asked if either of them were in show choir. No they weren’t. Tyler was in a choir in his hometown.

Jenna told them that competitive show choirs are not really a thing. Their are show choirs like the Whiffenpoofs but that is a different thing.

Jenna went to a performing arts high school. They did 10 shows a year. It was very competitive. They had a select choir. It’s as after school. Tyler said he was in drama club. Matt Morrison also went to a performance arts high school as well. Korey said his school was poor. They didn’t have a choir but they did have a band. He wasn’t in the band. They did school plays but they had to double or triple on roles because they didn’t’ have enough people to fill out the cast. He was also Homecoming King. He went to a very small school with like 46 kids in his graduation class. (I feel him. My graduating class was maybe 70 people.)

Jenna asked the personal affect Glee had on Tyler. He said it changed his life, the entire trajectory, he is who he is because of Glee. Jenna said that was the answer she was looking for and Kevin said he was just a shell of a person before he watched Glee. Korey said Tyler is still rewatching it. Every time he finishes he just starts it all over again. Tyler said in sincerity he loved it unironically, he knew how important it would have been to someone that was closeted in high school or middle school. He knew not all queer people had it as easy as him growing up. To see something like Glee exist prime time, the biggest show period, and have leads that were queer and leads celebrating all types of differences was huge .He knows its fun to observe glee and the ridiculousness of it all. He said if your weren’t there you didn’t know how big glee was in the moment and how powerful it was. They were having real conversations about queer identities on the main stage. It changed culture. iconic. Iconic without any exaggeration.

Tyler saw the movie. Jenna said you were the person that wen t and saw the movie. (I dragged my mom to the movie so maybe three of us saw the movie)

Tyler wants any listener that didn’t experience in the moment you don’t even realize how huge it was, it was a cultural phenomenon.

Tyler was coming up on YouTube/social media around the same time as Glee. Kevin said his nieces and nephews were exposed to more queer people because of people like Tyler that weren’t afraid to be themselves on social media. He said knowing they had good people like Tyler to watch they were in good hands. It was a group effort. Glee ended up being a queer positive experience and was a very pop culture referenced show. A part of that zeitgeist was YouTube.

Tyler said he thinks of Trevor Live that was held in December. Trevor Project was important to Tyler. He got to be a correspondent for Trevor Live and was giddy when he found out who would be walking the carpet. He felt safe and supported every time someone from Glee came on to the carpet. He said they made it fun and brought their shine to a cause that is important. Every cast member of Glee was always at Trevor Live. Glee always showed out for queer people. It always stuck with Tyler that there are celebrities that will show up at a red carpet to promote something and celebs that will show up when they want to support a cause.

Kevin said he was excited to meet Tyler and talk to him on the carpet. He was worried he would out himself. He was wearing a kilt the first time he met Tyler. He said they were having a gay old time on the carpet.

Kevin said it has happened a lot over the years that they have made friends only to find out they had Glee watch parties. Jenna said they always assume people haven’t seen Glee. They come across that a lot.

Kevin asked Korey what happened with the boyfriend he originally watched glee with and Korey said they broke up before Glee was over. He said he had his mom to sort of watch with. They would watch separately and talk about it after. She would text him every week it was on. She loves Kurt and Blaine. He said this was around the time he had come out to his parents. He said it was impactful to him that she celebrated Kurt and Blaine on the show.

Kevin said he would sneakily watch shows with gay characters, usually British shows. He said he remembers downloading Skins in six parts on YouTube and hiding from his parents to watch it. Then thinking about what Tyler and Korey referenced about being young and having a show on network television that people were going to see whether they meant to or not because it was on one of the five major networks and being able to access that part of dialogue or themselves and watching with their parents or having their parents see something in a positive light that they might not otherwise be exposed to. The cast didn’t necessarily get to experience its in that way at all because they were doing it. When you are doin the thing you don’t really have a frame of reference for how impacting other people. Kevin’s favorite part of hearing stories is that connection between kids and their parents. Being able to talk about it and be sort of an ice breaker. Sure we are talking about Kurt and Blaine but we are talking about us in real life.

Jenna brought up that Tyler did a glee ranking. She wants to know what is this tier maker thing, what provoked him to do it, did he watch any of these numbers over again? These days Tyler is a Twitch streamer. One of the things he will do live is ranking things. (These tier lists are really popular on game channels right now) They talked about their favorite fast food fries. Anyways, Tyler had seen people ranking glee things in the past. He got the idea to rank all the Glee songs but then he realized there are like 700 songs. He found a ranking list that had 180 songs and it was the most compressive one he could find. It was a three stream event and took him like 15 hours. They listened to every single song. They discusses songs. Everyone would scream context is important and they would have to watch the videos. He heard left right and center that he was wrong about everything. Kevin said the people on twitter were terrible to Tyler. Tyler learned people had a foggy memory of what was iconic and what they wanted to be iconic. Just because you want something to be iconic doesn’t make it iconic. Just because you want something to impact pop culture forever doesn’t mean it did. They had categories of actually changed pop culture forever, should have changed pop culture forever, this is what we come to glee for in the best way possible (this was where most of the songs went), weaponized bfa, you sang your face off come get your tony, teensbop, good vocals but skip, the lowest category is crimes were committed. Kevin said that was where his first song belonged. They also had categories called how did this get made, camp but in a bad way. Kevin said Blame next to Run Joey Run seems controversial. Tyler said the people are mad. Kevin said there has been this weird resurgence of people on TikTok tagging Kevin talking about Blame It On The Alcohol and Kevin singing it. They said it should have sung it on a competition and Kevin said it was just alright. Tyler said he was stoned for most of the ranking. Kevin asked Korey if he ahd seen the ranking. Korey said he saw the tweet asking for your favs. He said he had a problem with a lot ofTylers ranking but that’s just part of their friendship. They understand they are different. Kevin replied to Tyler’s tweet and got shit for it. Tyler said it shocked him that people genuinely thought he was wrong for his choices and it worries him. Korey said that is twitter in a nutshell. Kevin said that is Glee in a nutshell. Tyler asked if anything that he said was iconic that wasn’t iconic. Tyler said Don’t Stop changed pop culture forever. Kevin said he didn’t know if Beautiful needed to be a the top of the list. It’s a nice cover but it’s not like the rest on the list. Jenna doesn’t think Hate On Me is top top. Tyler said he has some taste. Also the majority of songs are not in this tier list. There was a warblers song that was omitted and people were pissed. Jenna said maybe Raise Your Glass. Kevin said isn’t it weird the show came out 13 years ago and people are still heated about it.

Tyler asked when is the gleeboot. Korey said he would watch the premiere and Tyler said he absolutely would watch it. Jenna said what would you want from a gleeboot. They said fun. Jenna asked would you want to see the old cast. Someone said what would you be a parents, teachers. Tyler said new class. Korey said one of you can be the teacher. Only one of you, I only have one picture in my hands. Korey did a America’s Next Top Model bit. Tyler said a full new cast and a new cast. Kevin said he pitched that idea to Ryan when they last talked to him. Kevin and Jenna said he’s thinking about it.

Jenna said what themed episode would they want to see like Madonna or Gaga would they want to see right now? Tyler said now that glee is officially over and we are in the dark ages of music not getting covered on tv. There are songs that would have been covered on glee that escaped glee’s wrath. Tyler said Billie Eilish would be big. Ryan said Taylor Swift. Lizzo would probably have been on the show. Kevin said he would watch the premiere with Korey. Jenna said she would have a viewing party. Tyler asked them would they go back if they were asked. Jenna said it depends not he context. Tyler said they need a cameo from everyone .Kevin said he can’t come back because he would never be allowed to even audition for that role today. Tyler and Korey said he could comeback but like on zoom for the waist up.

Tyler said what would glee have done with Covid. Jenna said it makes her think of the lights out episode where the school loses power.

Jenna said they have all Korey and Tylers notes and will pass them to Ryan.

Tyler said he hoped no one ever took offense to his rankings of anything.

Tyler said every comment on the video he did with Kevin and Jenna on his YouTube channel was like wow they really blacked it out.

Kevin said just because he can’t remember a storyline or critique doesn’t mean he doesn’t like the show. He equated it to remembering a test you took in 9th grade. It all melds together and it’s hard to pull out memories of individual moments.

Kevin said leave Tyler alone. His opinions might be flawed but he is a good person.

There will be a bonus episode tomorrow…

#and that’s what you really missed #atwyrm #jenna ushkowitz #kevin mchale #tyler oakley #korey kuhl #glee #podcast

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