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#ZUTARA IS NOT RACIST
eponastory · 2 days
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So you can read Katara's mind now?
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Sorry about the big blue dot, but I had to fit all of this in one screen.
Let's start off with the fact that this person completely disregards the entire character arc of both Zuko and Katara to put this point across.
From what it looks like, Katara is actually okay with being in the Fire Nation. Otherwise, she wouldn't be very comfortable at the BEACH HOUSE at Ember Island, where OZAI laid his head, too. But yeah, let's just glance over that. She even goes to the same theater where the Royal Family frequented when Zuko was a small child and had no issues with it up until the last act of the play. I mean, she had problems with her portrayal, but that was the play. Not the place. She even has fun in the Fire Nation.
Why? Because the Fire Nation is not all bad people. There are a lot of innocent people in the Fire Nation. That's like condemning all Japanese for the bombing of Pearl Harbor... oh wait... that happened. Yeah, Japanese Americans were treated like traitors after Pearl Harbor, even after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Some were forced to live in 10x10 horse stalls. But I digress. You realize what I'm getting at here don't you?
Probably not because you are naive.
I agree that Fire Lady is an irrelevant title. She wouldn't take it anyway, but instead, because she is very good in politics and loves her culture, she'd likely take on a more political role. Ambassador Katara is overused. But I do know that she is a guiding voice for Zuko (this is in the show btw) so maybe his right-hand advisor who gets shit done could work. Remember, they work incredibly well as a team. Plus he's the damn Fire Lord. He'd find a position for her that she could do some good. (I know this is kinda my headcanon, but it's based on information gathered from various source material from the franchise) hell, even a health coordinator would be in the cards.
Anyway, it seems you don't really understand her arc given that she is very good at politics post-war and has the capacity to FORGIVE Zuko and put all of that behind her. I mean... the way you guys make it sound is that she hates everybody. And that isn't true.
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lilith-91 · 5 days
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"Firelady Katara" 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
"Mai is a toxic girlfriend, Zuko deserves better" 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
"Katara is an incubator and Aang's trophy wife" 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
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nicolepng · 2 months
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yo wtf.....
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aang-whore · 1 year
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I’m not over seeing ppl say Zutara is the female gaze and implying in the same sentence that Aang was toxic when Zuko literally got violent over seeing his girlfriend talking with another guy. EW?????? Is being a possessive creep loved by the female gaze now???? Literally throw this hc away because Zuko makes the female gaze want to gag, actually.
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I gotta say, it is absolutely hilarious seeing ppl who call zutara a racist ship turn around and make azutara content??
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burst-of-iridescent · 4 months
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ana's meta masterlist
Pro-Zutara:
the official zutara dissertation: part 1 | part 2
zuko, aang and taking lightning for katara
zutara and romantic coding
"you rise with the moon, i rise with the sun" is a zutara line
zutara and thematic significance
zutara vs jetara
zutara parallels in the awakening
zutara's narrative culmination
zutara in the crossroads of destiny:
azula vs katara
love as resistance in the catacombs
zutara in the southern raiders:
the true source of katara's anger at zuko
katara bloodbending before zuko
the narrative relevance of zutara
zutara and bloodbending
zutara's narrative symmetry
why zuko had to betray katara in ba sing se
Anti Anti-Zutara:
the official zutara dissertation (p.3)
"zutara would face too much opposition from their countries"
"zuko and katara are a colonizer/colonized ship"
"zuko and katara would fight all the time”
"platonic zutara is better than romantic zutara"
"fire lady katara is racist"
“zuko would’ve taken lightning for anyone”
“katara is too traumatized by the fire nation”
ATLA Ship Criticism:
the official zutara dissertation: part 4 | part 5 | part 6
why mai.ko was never intended to be canon
mailee is a better ship than mai.ko
how kat.aang could've been fixed
kat.aang's lack of trust in the southern raiders
emotional labour in kat.aang
kat.aang’s narrative imbalance
comparing katara and aang's parenting
why the fortuneteller does not foreshadow kat.aang
ATLA/LOK:
azula/katara parallels
katara's choice in the crossroads of destiny
was zuko's betrayal in-character?
zuko's comments in the southern raiders
zuko's comments in the southern raiders (pt. 2)
zuko is not a “bad boy”
sokka didn't feel inferior to katara
did mai fear azula?
comparing mai and toph
sexism in the water tribes
thoughts on the atla comics
gratuitous violence in the legend of korra
The Hunger Games:
zutara and everlark parallels
zutara and everlark parallels (pt. 2)
gale's arc in the hunger games trilogy
the myth of humanity's inherent evil
the ending of lucy gray
Squid Game:
individualism under capitalism
the ethics of billionaires
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punkeropercyjackson · 24 days
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I do NOT think it's fair for Zutara shippers to hate Zukka for a chunk of the fandom popularizing bad tropes and being mean-spirited like sorry not sorry but you're calling EVERY Zukka shipper misogynistic racists and queerphobes as if you're not the ones who came up with 'Fire Lady Katara' and 'Momtara x Dadko' and mocked Aang for trying to emphasize with Katara's mom dying with her by comparing it to him and Appa being the only living beings from what happened to the Air Nomads and call him all sorts of vile appalling shit that should NEVER be said about a fucking 12 year old because he's feminine and silly and not the perfect love interest 24/7 and takes pride in his tibetan heritage AND stripped Katara of all her accomplishments and nonconformity and layers and anarchism because you see her as worthless if she's not Zuko's arm candy while also making degrading comments about her sex life because she had kids with a guy you don't like with added anti-biracial kids propaganda as a bonus AND are so unsympathetic to Mai because she's Zuko but a girl so you're not into her that you unironically think she's a wench plus don't even actually care about Mailee seeing as it has way more evidence than Zutara on every level yet you only see them as a sidedish to prove you don't hate women AND even Zuko dosen't get speared because mans deadass ended the series with everything he'd ever wanted INCLUDING being a better dad than Ozai was to him to AANG but none of it matters apperantly because he choose what was best for himself after 16 years straight of abuse instead of some random ass crush you THINK he had for not even technically a year.You do NOT get to talk shit about Zukka stans,they're just a normal noncanon mlm ship fanbase with a small side of bad eggs,Zutaras are an entire rotten eggs ile from a supermarket that's been abandoned for almost 20 years because it never actually opened but old people who complain about 'kids these days' keep thinking it'll open one day despite it being announced a million times it never would and saying it's elder abuse in response
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sokkastyles · 1 month
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i think its funny how often i see "not every relationship has to be romantic, ROMANCE IS NOT MORE IMPORTANT THAN FRIENDSHIP" argument applied to zutara because of how often the same antis will use the "colonizer x colonized ship" argument because if anything, they're the ones who perpetuate that romantic relationships are more important than friendships. Why is it okay for the gaang to be canonically friends with a so called colonizer, yet it crosses a line for Katara to date him? its okay to willingly and positively associate with a racist as long as youre not involved romantically? because that implies that friendship is automatically lesser than a romantic relationship if youre not willing to apply the same moral standards to both when being friends with a colonizer isnt any less reprehensible than dating them. just incredibly unserious people
because that implies that friendship is automatically lesser than a romantic relationship if youre not willing to apply the same moral standards to both
Bingo.
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redwiccanrobin · 2 months
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I know I’ve been ranting a lot about antis, but it’s just because the way they’ve taken to voicing their dislike of Zutara bothers me. So, bear with me.
There was this woman on TikTok that I used to follow and who made a lot of ATLA analysis. And she was a Zutara shipper who would speak on some of the themes that led her to be a Zutara shipper. All was going fine until someone made a video attacking her for liking Zutara. They called her morally corrupt, a terrible person, and claimed she was racist for liking a fictional ship. I watched as this woman I followed then become convinced that she was those things and she swiftly took all her ATLA videos down and never talked about the show again.
Antis are bullies. I’m not sugarcoating it. They go out of their way to make people feel guilty for liking Zuko and Katara as a romantic couple. They sit on a high horse and scream at us about how we don’t understand oppression. How we must hate women of color. How we’re delusional. They accused Dante Basco, a man of color, of being a pedophile. Before I turned off my anon, I would be harassed for a long time if I had posted something talking about Zutara. I never answered them because I was too scared it would encourage more. Something that I’m not going to stand by and accept are people who don’t know me making assumptions on my morals based on fiction I enjoy. Get over yourselves, antis.
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givingairtomymouth · 2 months
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I now dare all of the "Zutara is colonizer x colonized trope and Zuko is AWFUL and an ABUSER and TOXIC and EVIL and EDGY and RACIST and borderline killer" people to go under all the LGBT+ content that is shipping Zukka and say the exact same crap. I DARE YOU. GET A GRIP, PEOPLE.
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i just read your ask about how zutaras think airbenders are racist, sexist, ect. and i'm like?? aren't air nomads canonically the most accepting of the 4 nations??? i don't know how accurate the avatar universe wiki is (it's one of the most expansive wikis i've ever seen for a fandom), but it says it there.
Even if we don't take the wiki or anything except the show itself into account - nothing in the show itself indicates they were racist, sexist, etc.
But you know what nation is confirmed to be very fucking racist, and there's hints of it being a least a little sexist? The Fire Nation. The one that commited genocide towards both the air-nomads and Southern Water Tribe.
Zutarians are constantly going on and on about how their ship is more "complext and adult", yet lots of them are TERRIFIED to engage with aspects that would make it a complex, adult, very messy dynamic - aka the fact that Zuko is not only a direct descendent of the guy that started the war (Sozin), of the guy that was responsible for the raids on Katara's tribe (Azulon), and of the guy that order her best friend's capture/death (Ozai) but he also took A LONG time to realize "Holy shit, what my family is doing is terrible" and was in fact constantly putting Katara and her friends in danger, helped Azula get the upper hand in Ba Sing Se and thus kill Aang, then sent an assassin after them to finish/repeat the job later.
There's also the fact that, due to their immaturity, they think they HAVE to hate Aang just because they don't him and Katara together, and it can make them look really bad to hate on the sole survivor of a genocide while praising the prince that was trying to help his nation get rid of said last survivor.
They could deal with that by doing stuff like making modern AUs to avoid the war thing, or actually addressing the complexity of the situation, or being mature enough to say "I dislike Kataang/Aang as a character, but obviously Zuko was an objectively worse person back when he was supporting literal genocide."
Instead they decide to make the air-nomads look like "asshole victims" to reduce sympathy for them and Aang, pretend the SWT and the NWT are exactly the same to make it look like Katara felt oppressed by her own family and culture instead of being traumatized by their death, and pretend the Fire Nation is not only the "feminst nation" but also that said feminism would TOTALLY extend to the girl they were taught to see as being part of an inferior race just because there's a new guy in charge.
Zutarians tend to only acknowledge the elephant in the room when it's for the sake of a fetish or extra drama (see the non-con fics or "Slave/Concubine Katara" fics), or when they are genuinely fucking clueless/racist and think "Oh, it wasn't so bad" and say as much openly.
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forevermore05 · 26 days
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1. I can't speak for other cultures that were represented in this show (I'm so sorry if your representation was ruined too), but since I'm a South Asian and specifically an Indian and Hindu. I think I have some credibility. Ok, so this may depend on the interpretations of Hinduism that you've grown up with if you're a Hindu reading this. Well, growing up, I was always taught that Chakras were so important. I learned that the GODS could not accomplish something unless they access all their Chakras (again, this is the interpretation I grew up with it might not be the same for you). So the fact that watching Aang just be able to live life without accessing all of his charkas properly was a big slap to the face. Let me just say this right now. If you were representing a culture, especially the culture that you base the entire show on you either do it correctly or you don't do it at all. Don't make it half-baked because that's just disrespecting the people who follow that religion. And you're emphasizing how insignificant their religious values are (mind you Hinduism is one of the oldest religions in the world). What little representation we had was also ruined.
2. I also want to talk about another point since I'm here. I think I've made it very clear that I'm a woman of color. Even though me and Katara Are not the same ethnicity. She was my representation through skin color. And it's so interesting. How even though I knew that she was not my ethnicity, I still grasped onto her as a representation. Now this is not a PSA for studios to say "Hey, let's have a person that is brown, and everyone will be okay with it because they will have a person of the same skin to relate to." No this is me criticizing the lack of diversity in the show. The fact that you can base an entire show on a culture but not be able to handle a main character from that culture. And also I think the reason why I like Zuko and Katara ( I've made this point before) But the amount of respect that they have. As a woman of color, I have not exactly received respect from other men whether that be because of my gender or my skin color. So seeing a woman of color be respected regardless it's just so refreshing to me.
3. Also I want people to be mindful that a lot of people who ship this ship. Are women of color and/or part of the LGBTQIA2S+ community. However, I'm going to talk specifically about women of color since I'm straight. A lot of us have come from countries that have been colonized and still face the repercussions of colonization to this day, so what I'm trying to say is. When woc ship this duo they know what they're doing and they're not doing anything wrong. It's disrespectful to insult them for being racist and misogynistic when in reality a lot of these women face misogyny and racism in their own lives. They understand why they ship this ship. They understand it very well because they able to see and understand what is truly going on.
4. If you have a problem with this post and want to potentially hunt me down. I'm only saying this because I've seen other women of color be harassed for liking Zutara. I need you to remember that I'm a teenager. I'm a kid. I don't think you want to beef with a kid. And no, it does not matter that I'm 18. You shouldn't be harassing anyone over a ship. In fact, accusing shippers of being racist but then being racist to that poc/woc shipper is insane. It kind of shows that those people are not on a moral high horse.
5. I'm a kid......don't even think about it.
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glowingtoad · 1 year
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Zutara critique but it progressively gets worse
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It’s not my thing but I can see the appeal
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Personally I don’t get it at all but whatever it’s not gonna ruin my day
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It’s not canon tho
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But what about poor Aang?
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I dunno it’s seems kind of questionable to me
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Zuko and Katara would only fight and be miserable together they hate each other
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After all what he did Aang earned Katara
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Zutara is only liked by girls who are hot for Zuko and use Katara as a self-insert
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Zutara is a racist and misogynistic ship
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Zuko is an oppressor and colonizer to Katara Note: this does not apply to Sokka and Zukka is a good ship actually
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Zutara is a racist and fetishistic ship and anyone who likes it approves of awful heinous misdeeds
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Zutara shippers deserve to be *insert awful heinous misdeed* 
Bonus:
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AlL wOmEn WhO sHiP zUtArA wIlL hAvE dOoMeD rElAtIoNsHiPs
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longing-for-rain · 15 days
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You are WAY too dismissive when you respond to post done of those are serious topics and it cone off privilege calssist and abelist to say a bunch of things that don’t matter aren’t realated or jokes next to real things because how are people supposed to know what’s real and not? I really hate how Aang hater always are insensitive rude racist just because he not streptypical pretty boy like Zuko it so obvious you jus want to fuck him so pathetic so gross hes 16 and you act this way you jealous self insert on Katara and attack anyone who disagrees is sick. Go die you homophobic racist colonizer dick sucking piece of shit i fucking hate Zutara and Zutara shipper stop hating Aang, stop being racist, and leave people alone
I just put my menstrual cup in the wrong way in the shower and had the weirdest sounding queef
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victimsofyaoipoll · 9 months
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Round 2
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Elizabeth Midford
She started as just a cutie fiancée trying her best, turns out she's also a swordfighting genius, very under pressure to perform feminity in the Victorian Rose type of way. Fandom crucifies her bc she's Ciel's fiancée and they want him to be with his butler, Sebastian, the demon he sold his soul to for revenge
anime was a shitty canon divergent adaptation that butchered her character down to her "cutesy silly girly" persona, which obviously made the 2008 anime fans hate her with a passion (nothing wrong w being girly I'm just saying the adaptation made her super one dimensional) anyways fujoshis used to treat her as a villain because she's the fiance of Ciel,, who as u might know already was HEAVILY shipped with his butler, Sebastian back then (now it's kinda looked badly upon, nice tbh that ship sucks ass xD) She's a bit similar to Misa Amane from death note in the way she was treated. (Like an obstacle the yaoi ship must overcome rather than a person)
she's my silly little rabbit! i could gush about her character but i'll keep it short and just say that she's really well written and one of the best characters in the series. anyways she's ciel's fiance and she's like, rightfully annoying as any other 13 yr old girl would be but the fanbase fucking crucified her for even existing. she gets demonized for being 'annoying', but then ciel gets yaoishipped with an even more annoying guy. there is 100% an argument that lizzie/ciel is weird bc they're cousins (i personally don't ship it) but that falls flat when her detractors then ship the 13 yr old ciel with an eons old demon who Canonically looks like his father. the anime also never reached her main character development until years after its peak and that was only in a movie, so she really got the bad end of the stick here. not me though i had a giant crush on her when i was 12
Katara
Katara is constantly mistreated by the fans in favor of the Zukka ship (Zuko × Sokka.) They make her out to be mean, homophobic, and completely out of character just to add drama to the Zukka ship. In reality, Katara is very compassionate, and would never act that way toward anyone. 
Zutara was a popular ship but when zukka got popular over covid during the atla renaissance there were a million posts about how zutara was problematic while zukka was perfect usually for racist reasons. Meanwhile katara and sokka are siblings so it didn't even make sense. They did not have to be so illogically rude to her to ship zukka and it was weird
Katara is FANTASTIC I fucking love her to pieces she is so cool and yet the entirety of the ATLA fandom treats her like garbage because she “talks about her mom dying too much” (even though she BARELY does & also was parentified from a young age due to her mother’s death) and, of course, because she’s a more feminine women when compared to her counterparts. Even in the show itself she’s mistreated: she’s ALWAYS shown cooking for the rest of the gaang, doing their laundry, any ‘womanly’ task. She ends up with the guy who kissed her twice without her consent & who she never showed any real attraction to and apparently (despite being a badass warrior-doctor!!!) after the show ended she just… settled down in the South Pole and had a bunch of kids and never did anything else. She didn’t even get a statue :( Anyways during the ATLA renaissance, despite Zutara actually not being canon, people felt that Katara threatened the sanctity of the new almost entirely baseless yaoi ship, Zukka. Unfortunately for them, due to the fact that Katara and Sokka are siblings, the usual anti-Zutara arguments didn’t work as well. So they resorted to just… slaughtering her character. If she was lucky, they’d just make Katara a background character, wingwoman, &or throw her together with her canon love interest. If she was unlucky they’d do anything from make her homophobic (??) to killing her off! Fuck’s sake, she never even got a token spare-the-pairs wlw ship! Sorry for getting so heated, that whole debacle made me FUMING MAD.
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i've written before about how fire lady katara isn't an inherently disempowering or racist trope, as have many others, but lately i've been thinking about how arguments against fire lady katara often tend to utilise a surface-level interpretation of colonial trauma.
[edit: this post will use the term "colonial trauma" because those who argue against fire lady katara usually use the same wording or are referring to that concept. but it's important to note that according to show canon, the fire nation did not colonize the southern water tribe and zuko and katara did not have a colonizer/colonized relationship.]
antis who present this argument usually posit that marrying zuko would be a form of re-traumatization for katara, while marrying aang would "protect" her. katara is supposedly more shielded from confronting the impact of colonization in the southern water tribe or on air temple island than she would be with zuko in the fire nation, which contextualizes colonial trauma purely through the lens of physical interaction with the colonial power (ie. living in the fire nation or looking after the people of the fire nation). whether intended or not, this argument inadvertently limits colonial trauma to the geographical boundaries of the colonizing country and implies that it can be reduced or averted solely by minimizing contact with said country.
even leaving aside that we have seen katara in the fire nation (and enjoying herself there), the implication here is that active engagement with a colonial power as a member of colonized peoples is an inherent form of re-traumatization... which i take issue with for multiple reasons.
firstly, katara lives in a world that has been permanently shaped and changed by imperialism, and that's going to affect her no matter where she goes. sequestering herself in the south pole her whole life and never seeing a glimpse of fire nation red again won't allow katara to escape the legacy of colonization or the trauma it has caused her, because its influence is rooted in everything from her family to her tribe to her own bending. believe me, i understand the appeal of a world where women of colour can avoid reckoning with the impact of colonization by simply never setting foot in the colonizing country again, and why people might be uncomfortable with zutara individually as a result - but i can't accept it as a valid argument against the ship, because that's just not how colonial trauma works.
secondly, the idea that this "protects" katara reeks of paternalism because katara is not a character who chooses her path simply based on how safe or comfortable it is. if that was the case, she would never have left the southern water tribe at all! she could've remained there her whole life and likely been safe, since the fire nation had no real interest in the south pole any longer. katara is fundamentally defined by how relentlessly revolutionary she is - over and over, she chooses to do what is right, what is hard, what is unexpected, even at cost to herself. she challenges injustice and discrimination and bigotry; she fights for the downtrodden and speaks for those who can't speak for themselves; she will never ever turn her back on the people who need her. does that truly sound like someone who needs to be hid away and protected from her own supposed re-traumatization?
thirdly - and i fully accept that there are those who might disagree with this - katara actively choosing to engage with her colonial trauma can be empowering just as it can be traumatizing. don't get me wrong: as a woc and a minority in my own country, i understand how tiring it is to do this. i understand the exhaustion of confronting what was done to you and your people, of facing down bigotry over and over. i understand the desire to run away from it all, and why it can be wish fulfilment for others to let katara do so. i really, really do.
but there is also wish fulfilment in letting katara fight, as a brown girl with power and resources that few brown girls in the real world hold. there is a power fantasy in seeing katara head into the belly of the beast and emerging triumphant. there is empowerment to be found in seeing katara struggle with racism and ignorance and mindless hate to enact change - and succeed. i love reading and writing about katara unpacking her trauma regarding the fire nation, about growing to love the place she once hated, about reconciling both her homes and healing from the wounds of her childhood.
and ultimately, i think that's what katara would want for herself. after throwing herself head first into the fight against the fire nation, after facing down her greatest trauma instead of letting it consume her, after helping and protecting the people of the fire nation, after refusing to let the fire nation take anything else from her - i firmly believe that the last thing katara would do is allow herself to be ruled by the fire nation instead of being the one ruling it.
personally, i find that a more hopeful and victorious narrative than one where she remains safe and sheltered away from the fire nation, but forever haunted and dictated by her trauma. would that be realistic? perhaps. but the entire point of foiling katara with characters like jet and hama is to show that she's not doomed to be mired in the pain of her past. that where their stories could only end in tragedy, hers can - and does - end in hope for something better, as she always believed it could.
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