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Workin' Boys: A New Theory

So, I’ve changed my mind.

A while back I wrote this theory, and while I do still think there is some truth to the theory that Hidgens began to have his apotheosis once he touched the blue goo, I think there is more to the story.

Note, the below contains one mild spoiler for NPMD. Mild only in that I will briefly reference one character without any context added. Feel free to skip this theory if you wish, or come back to it post 13th October to see how much I got wrong!!

Great Scott! It’s a Workin Boys theory!

The world will be blessed with Workin Boys next week, and I know not everyone will get to watch it, but it’s safe to say there will be things we learn from the show that will either answer some of our never ending questions, or give us more to puzzle over. The latter being the one I’m expecting if I’m honest, afterall, this is Hatchetfield.

And to be honest, we’ve not been given much to work on. The trailer and synopsis are both pretty short, we’ve had a sprinkling of facts and figures over the last couple of years, and a few Hidgens cameos, so this isn’t really a theory of what I think will be the storyline, but rather an attempt to predict some of the themes and potential lore implications that might arise.

Also for reference, a good portion of the info used in this theory has come from these two wonderful compendiums of Hatchetfield knowledge:

@gone-to-oregone's wonderful Everything is Connected doc

@abiimaryy's amazing Hatchetfield Lore Doc

The Stage is Set

Professor Henry Hidgens and Doctor Emmett Brown have a lot in common. They’re eccentric, they’re clever, and they both had a vision of something world changing due to an accident they had 30 years ago.

For Henry, this doesn’t result in any fun 50s hijinks, but rather he gets struck by lightning in 1988 and predicts the world ending by musical apotheosis. Super specific, honestly. But what is important is that date.

Hidgens didn’t predict the events of TGWDLM after 2005, but rather before. If this had happened to him after 2005 we could easily put the lightning strike down to an event unique to the TGWDLM timeline only. However, his accident happened way before 2005, way before the timelines split. So just as Ted must be the Homeless Guy in every single Hatchetfield timeline, Hidgens must also be expecting a musical apocalypse in every timeline.

This must also include Working Boys, whatever timeline that ends up being in. In Workin Boys, Hidgens would be under the impression that at some point soon, a musical apocalypse is about to happen. So what does that have to do with said musical-within-a-musical?

Here come the LiB

It’s pretty safe to say Pokey is heavily influencing whatever happens in Workin Boys. First of all, its a musical so it was going to be a safe bet. But judging by the trailer, we’ve got multiple references to our fave goo gremlin. The blue light shining on Henry, multiple voices calling him in a Singular Voice, and Joey’s jumpscare where he looks like Pokey incarnate.

Who Joey is in that small clip is anyone’s guess. I’ve seen a few theories floating about, including Chad, Mathias Waylon, and Pokey himself. Honestly, I’m not sure, but what is important is how he looks. Whoever this fella is, he’s got a blue hue, a cracked face, and ooze dripping down his chin. If he’s not Pokey, he’s someone who has been Pokey-fied.

And this link was always going to make sense. Workin Boys has had its biggest show stopping moment in Pokey’s timeline.

But what if Workin Boys was created, because and for Pokey.

In TGWDLM, we get a whole scene of our cast of characters witnessing the meteor coming through the clouds. Our cast of characters are busy going about their evening, finishing work, wondering what is coming through the clouds. Notably, Paul is on his way home, from his work, in the business world. Paul doesn’t strike me as someone who stays late at work, so it’s safe to say that the meteor hit the Earth’s atmosphere around.. 5 O’clock?

This is Pokey’s Workin Boys now

Let’s go back to that incident with the lightning strike. Henry was hit by lightning and predicted the apocalypse. I’ve referenced in a few theories (1 & 2) that I think lightning is more than just the LiB’s motif. It’s the strike of inspiration, of interference, of the Lords in Black in the real world. The Black Book contains references to lightning, we see a crack of lightning across each Hatchetfield show title, when the meteor crashes at the Starlight lightning is flashing through the sky.

Something to shock em, to bring them a crawling, a big time box office draw

When Henry was hit by lightning, he didn’t just see the potential musical end times. But he was also given Workin Boys - or at least, he was given his inspiration. Workin Boys was always written for Pokey. It’s Hidgen’s story, yes, but the musical itself is for our blue boy. It was a pre-destined self-destruction.

The musical Hidgens writes tells us the 5 O’Clock can’t come soon enough because in one timeline, that is when the meteor will strike. This is why he is trying so hard to fund the show in every timeline, because in one timeline he needs to put it on stage for whatever Pokey has planned. Whatever Pokey requires half of Hatchetfield to be in attendance for.

Prof. H and Miss H?

I’ll be honest, and apologies in advance. I don’t think Miss Holloway is alive in the Workin Boys timeline.

We were told following NMT2’s release (via Jim Povolo’s watch series) that the Black Book we see in Killer Track was created for Workin Boys, which means providing things haven’t changed we should see the book. If that’s the case, then Miss H doesn’t have it. It’s possible that Hidgens somehow gets hold of the book, and when the show of his dreams doesn’t look to be going the way he expected - he does what Thrash told everyone he did - he sold his soul to the devil. Or, well, to the Black and White.

As to when he gets the Black Book - who knows - but all I’ll say is it’s very interesting that Miss H is our 80s queen, and Hidgen’s divine inspiration also occurred in the 80s.

Encore

Well, that’s the main theory. But we’ve got time for one last little theory that’s very loosely based on nothing.

Workin Boys: A New Musical, is based on Hidgens’ friends from college - old college chums in a beat up old house. Specifically - six of them - not including Henry. I’ve seen a few theories regarding the six workin boys being a stand in for the LiB and Webby. Is this a stretch? Maybe. But it also kind of fits. From odd instances in livestreams and tweets, it’s clear that Henry was not throwing that old pigskin around (specifically in one of Nick’s tweets that there are 7 workin boys, but 6 on the field). Henry isn’t a part of that group. Not fully. So if we do get to meet any of the irl workin boys, I don’t think their dynamic is going to be quite how Hidgen’s pictures it.

Well, if you made it this far please help yourself to some interval ice cream and a show programme. And remember - there’s no exits from this broadway venue.

#starkid #team starkid #hatchetfield #workin boys #npmd spoilers #hatchetfield theory #hatchetfield theories

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booigi-boi · 7 months

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Ok so I think the way Ted becomes homeless man in every timeline isn't bc he always does something in each timeline to time travel but instead all timelines connect back to one and then split off. And yes I am going based off @abiimaryy timeline theory.

So Ted ofc does all the stuff he does in TB and he travels back to 2004 and gets stuck there. The theory is that the world was one timeline but then split in 2005 due to Hannah being born (I believe Wilbur says "it shattered when she came" referring to Hannah in WITW). So Ted having gone back to 2004 means the HM would've also ended up in every new timeline since he was there when the split happened.

Plus if we try to think about the idea of him time traveling in every individual timeline it just doesn't make sense for all of the timelines. In tgwdlm the world ends, we see Ted die and become part of the hive mind. And when time travels he goes missing. Ted's not missing in tgwdlm, he's there and we see him die, so he never got the chance to go back in time and become the homeless man. Now maybe since he's an apotheosis zombie and not like lay on the ground can't move dead he might've been able to time travel but I'm not entirely sure why the hive mind would want that. ldk maybe Tinky convinced Pokey to make it happen. But then in BF we see the same issue. Hatchetfield gets nuked at the end, everyone dies. Ted and HM are both there even though we see Ted die. Again maybe they didn't actually die in BF but idk I doubt it personally.

Obviously like you said, all theories are valid until the Langs say something is canon! This is just my take because this makes the most sense to me.

Idk why, but I kinda wish Ted becomes the homeless man the same way in every timeline, like he gets karma for being an idiot and a bastard, not because of something that happened with the timeline that was out of his control

It gets weird when you think about it too much, but I love all theories if they're related to Ted or the Spankoffski family in general 🐐 Goat fam if you will

Just give me the angst of Pete getting sad about Ted's disappearance :c

#ask #starkid #hatchetfield #ted spankoffski #my wild theory/headcanon about the timeline is that after holloway and wiley killed each other in 50/50 of the timelines #the lords decided to fuse all the remaining wiley's into one #he can come and go into timelines as he pleases #off topic but I think it's fun

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awigglycultist · 6 months

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HAPPY NERDY PRUDES AND HATCHETFIELD HALLOWEEN AND WORKIN BOYS DAY!!!

Also everyone should watch @abiimaryy recap video in preparation

#starkid #hatchetfield

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blueskiesandstarrynights · 2 years

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Omg congrats @abiimaryy you were right! Love to see a theory be 100% confirmed like that!

#hatchetfield #blue rambles

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impatentpending · 4 years

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did you say Janus is a face mask??? I AM SO HERE FOR THAT LMAO

heck yeah!!! I’m imagining;

sides: *very loud and dramatic arguement*

Patton: Well, if Janus were here, he’d say–

Logan: that’s peculiar. Where is he?

And then we get a five second cut-away of Janus like:

and it’s never addressed again

#abiimaryy #patton sanders #janus sanders #logan sanders #sanders sides #asks #partial nudity

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klanceficatalogue · 5 years

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Love Interest by IWriteShipsNotSailThem is incredible! It’s an actor AU where the VLD characters are playing their Defenders of Tomorrow counterparts so you get Klance and Leakira at the same time!

i actually havent heard that much abt leakira i thought it was over! but im glad some parts of that are still alive !!! it was definitely one of the best things to come out of vld -alex

Love Interest by iwriteshipsnotsailthem (34/? |126,259 | Mature)

Lance is getting his big American debut on a new T.V series called Voltron. He's excited and nervous about how amazingly talented and famous his cast members are. But most importantly Lance is anticipating meeting his character -Leandro's- love interest in the show. Who happens to played by the be mega famous, mega hot Keith Kogane.

But due to a misunderstanding during their first encounter, Lance now thinks Keith is the biggest jerk alive.

Keith now has to try and fix it, for the sake of the show, and also for the sake of their on screen romance, which may start venture off screen as well.

(adam / shiro, hunk / shay, akira / leandro (?) )

#ACTOR AU #leakira #actor lance #actor keith #wip #100k plus #mature #asks #abiimaryy #recs #klance #klance fic #voltron #voltron fic #vld #vld fic

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abiimaryy · 2 years

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It’s done!! 12 hour of work later and the Hatchetfield Lore Master Doc has been updated to include everything from Nightmare Time Season 2

#starkid #hatchetfield #nightmare time #nightmare time 2 #nmt #nmt2 #nmt2 spoilers #team starkid #black friday #black friday musical #the guy who didn't like musicals #tgwdlm #starkid productions

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readingrosalyn · 3 years

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theory: general macnamara is jane’s client from jane’s a car.

it makes a lot of sense when you think about it.

but john isn’t a literature professor?

he works for a government organisation that effectively deals with aliens and in both hatchetfield shows they make a point of people not knowing about them. it’s totally plausible for him to fabricate a job. a literature professor also checks out with what we’ve seen of him. we know from tgwdlm he wrote a book or kept a journal. he likes books.

how would he even find the black book?

it is entirely possible miss holloway, the owner of the black book, works/worked for peip. she knows wilbur cross and has connections to the black and white. if it’s true that she does/has worked for them then it could be that she misplaced it and he found it or she even showed him it.

it is also mentioned in the black friday commentary that he lived part of his life in the body of an eagle, which would require SOUL TRANSFERRENCE. also the professor is voiced by jeff. i rest my case.

the only flaw this theory has is that we don’t know where macnamara lives or where jane worked. it is possible that he lives close to hatchetfield, close enough to travel in to see jane or jane travels out.

or alternatively, he could be seeking down jane for some peip related reasons and posing as one of her clients?

@abiimaryy

@lucifersayshowdy 😌

#team starkid #hatchetfield #starkid #nightmare time #the guy who didn't like musicals #tgwdlm #black friday #lords in black #general john mcnamara #miss holloway #jane perkins

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largeballz · 3 years

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(htt ps: //Dr ive .goo gle.c om/fi le/ d/ 15_EOG PEe uUBJ 3oo kpk jE j9RD zX Oshi uF/v iew? usp = sha ring) ok so there's the link. Any quotes r from the hatchetfield lore doc from @/ abiimaryy This is all the info we have as of now. Once nmt s2 comes out, I might write over it in pen, and/or color code it, but 4 now i thought I'd leave things open to change. Hope u like! - 💙

!!! thank u 💙

(💙 later asked me to tag @abiimaryy)

#im about to b in class but ill check it out later

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hatchetfieldtheories · 3 years

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I made a thing https://href.li/?https://docs.google.com/document/d/1buxPy95OEaISfnfxXsfqkWHKP2hOOeErawwk7bdGzRQ/edit?usp=sharing&usp=embed_facebook

You're a star!!!

If anyone needs a starter document for making their Hatchetfield Theory @abiimaryy has made a fantastic google doc of all the lore in each show! Please check it out. I don't know if links in asks work, particularly as I am on mobile but I have just reblogged the post with the link in.

Please show some love!

#asks #hatchetfield #starkid #team starkid #nightmare time #the guy who didn't like musicals #black friday #abiimaryy

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awigglycultist · 3 months

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On the opposite side of things of why ppl should vote for me as biggest Joey Richter fan

Why you should be voting for @abiimaryy as biggest Hatchetfield fan instead of me

UHM FUCKING HELLOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WORK SHE HAS DONE FOR THIS FANDOM? THE TIMELINE THEORY? THE ENTIRE HATCHETFIELD WIKI?? HELLO???

#hatchetfield #starcanwreckedpulp awards #starkid

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blueskiesandstarrynights · 2 years

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So we got a bunch of new information in Jim Povolo's Nightmare Time streams, and all the new facts are in this amazing google doc, by @abiimaryy but that's just the facts and I want to give my analysis on this.

The Sniggles are lesser entities in the Black and White that were enslaved by the Lords in Black.

All of the Lords in Black have Sniggles but not all of them use them in the same way. Pokey doesn’t particularly like the Sniggles as he only likes his own voice

Webby doesn’t have sniggles

Honestly, this is kinda what I and I think many others assumed, esp after Watcher World. Although, this does leave me wondering what they look like even more since they're native to the black and white. Absolutely in love with that second point, once again we get further indication pokey is a self absorbed theater kid, good for him.

Time Bastard had to take place in 2004 as 2005 is an important date in the Hatchetfield Universe.

The Hatchetfield timeline split creating multiple realities.

ok so I'm basically taking this as canon confirmation that the timeline split in 2005, creating all the alternate realities, meaning the only question we have at this point, is when in 2005 does the split occur- Hannah's birthday, or PEIP opening the portal?

Webby is part of a species that used to live and be dominant in the Black and White. She is one of the only ones left.

This is such such an interesting concept to me. First of all, there are others like Webby, second of all, they were the dominant species, third of all, they're almost all gone meaning they've been killed off, but by who? Her brothers? I find this especially interesting with the wording of "one of the only ones left" meaning there are still others left and we just haven't met them yet.

Webby’s mother is a giant spider goddess.

The Lord in Black’s father is a giant chaos entity that has no consciousness and is evil. But he’s dead now.

so I'm not quite sure why it's phrased this way since the lib are webby's brothers and therefore they share at least one parent, but whatever. The idea of a "giant chaos entity that has no consciousness and is evil" is incredibly rad to me but something that seems so powerful must be hard to kill, so who did it, and how?

The father of the Monroe boys appears in Episode 2 of Nightmare Time 2. Possible fathers:

Bob Metzger

Louie Metzger

Lars Metzger

Carl Metzger

Solomon Lauter

Ted Spankoffski

Counselor 2

Boy Jerry

Hmm ok so out of this list, my initial thought was either Boy Jerry or Ted bc that'd be kinda funny, but honestly, the most likely option is probably Solomon bc I don't see Linda wanting to sleep with any of the other men on this list simply due to Soloman's influence

Wiggly is the current king in Black

Nibbly is the least evil Lord in Black. He’s just a being of hunger.

First thought: Ah that explains his title

Second thought: Yeah I was right about him being the most Extra TM lib

Third thought: God what a mood. He's not evil, he's just angry. Maybe sacrifice like two at the honey festival and he won't bother you for two years or something, idk

The Lords in Black were all spawned from the same deed of evil

I find this incredibly interesting. They were spawned from "the same deed of evil" meaning they were formed based on something someone else did. But who? And what did they do? My initial thought was Willabella, but she worshipped them, I don't think she made them, plus they're probably ancient chorn messed up and accidentally created them

The tree people give the soil of the Witchwood power.

Now, I think this is especially noteworthy. The forest itself isn't powerful, but as the hatchetmen planted more people, the forest grew in power, and so did the web that kept Willabella out. Supposedly this means that chopping down trees dampens the power of the forest as well.

Anyways, there were a few other bullet points, but I didn't have many thoughts on them, so I recommend reading the doc for the full list. I would like to note that all this info is making me think about the Gift again, and where it comes from. Does it come from the Black and White or the Witchwoods or somewhere else? I'm less inclined to go with the Witchwoods theory after reading the last bullet point since Willabella wouldn't have had the Gift otherwise. I don't know, these are a few of my thoughts, how about yall?

@hatchetfieldtheories

#hatchetfield #blue rambles #nmt2 spoilers #willabella muckwab #webby #lib #wiggly #nibbly #pokey #sniggles #this got long sorry

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impatentpending · 4 years

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